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Expose MSR entities
CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
therealdbT
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Comment in Globa Expressions
Tom_DT
I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Little Bobby tables...
CatmanV2C
...is back.... https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/08/researchers-use-calendar-events-to-hack-gemini-control-smart-home-gadgets/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=null&fbclid=IwY2xjawMBq-pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlSqIalzbz1IxcJFzlw8GBE6nC3FwvxcHgR370nJhogU6JjqbmRxG-lysqgh_aem_lx9XboYFKw9tpHnedGQKUA C
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Home Assistant Voice TTS is Easy
toggledbitsT
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Play Audio through Home Assistant Voice Unit
toggledbitsT
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Home Assistant
Home Assistant Voice
CatmanV2C
Has anyone had a play with the local voice control for HA? I've got one on order because... https://www.home-assistant.io/voice-pe/ C
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.
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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Can't customize home page
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I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
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@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
wmarcolinW
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Wiring Samotech SM308-S into light fitting
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Hi Smart Home Community. I have used a Sonos inline WiFi switch to make one of my light fittings smart, but it requires a hard reset for WiFi changes, plus it isn't zigbee compatible, which means I can't use the Hue app to control it with the rest of the lights. To that end I bought a Samotech SM308-S as it is recommended as the better than the Sonos equivalent. I am however not exactly sure how to wire it in. The manual is available here Can anyone help me by clarifying which ports I need to use, and whether I should be using the live or switched live line for live etc. I will be keeping using standard switches for a while, although hope to upgrade to tap dials once I have all the fittings upgraded. Thanks
Hardware
Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
tunnusT
I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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  • Expose MSR entities
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    @toggledbits this is precisely what it is, yes

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  • Expose MSR entities
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Sorry I tried to make it clear. For the avoidance of doubt the original post should (and shortly will) read
    'Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great.'

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  • Expose MSR entities
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Yes that was stupid of me! Sorry!

    said in Expose MSR entities:

    Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in

    MSR! Not HA!

    So the owntracks_sensor exists in MSR and works great. I'm wondering if there's an easy way to expose to HA

    What a buffoon

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  • Expose MSR entities
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Probably a really dumb question.

    Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great.

    Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly.

    Any thoughts?

    Apologies if the ask is not clear/

    TIA

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  • Little Bobby tables...
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    @akbooer indeed so

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    General Discussion

  • Home Assistant Voice TTS is Easy
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    I take it back. Worked immediately!

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  • Home Assistant Voice TTS is Easy
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    I must have missed something in the Voice preview set up then as I can't get TTS working (at least from the test situation)
    I might try from your state

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  • Little Bobby tables...
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    ...is back....

    Ryan Whitwam  /  Aug 6  /  Google

    Researchers design “promptware” attack with Google Calendar to turn Gemini evil

    Researchers design “promptware” attack with Google Calendar to turn Gemini evil

    The team behind the research has worked with Google to mitigate the attack, but what comes next?

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Watching with great interest!

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    @akbooer I just don't get it. I guess it's less effort to make a video than actually write down the instructions. Sure, for somethings they can be useful but a 15 minute video for a 5 minute config. Grrr!

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    OK, so digging through stuff. Definite progress. I've got an OpenAI integration running, but just been told that 'Max output tokens reached' which seems a little odd as I've used precisely $0.01

    Must go out now!

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Thanks (again) I have found this 🙂

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Cheers! I shall try and make some time 🙂
    (Is it just me that hates having to watch videos? Can't we just have instructions written down? 🙂 )

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Given I'm starting from zero on this particular path it would be interestting to see how you set it up. Took me about 90 minutes to get a light to turn on! The documentation I've found so far is, well, poor

    TIA

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    @akbooer I have Alexa that works really well for most voice control, but doesn't interact with HA. I have virtual switches in OpenLuup that are exposed HA bridge, so effectively I simply ask to flip a switch and the automation follows.

    The exception is my Logitech Elite hubs which integrate with Alexa directly (and also work really well)

    @toggledbits that would be awesome. I'm keen on the more interactive stuff (i.e. where the VA prompts for activity)

    Certainly I can make Alexa speak, but a simple 'yes' or 'no' response isn't going to get anything from her.

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Well, so far so 'OK' Took a fair while to set up. One of the wake phrases absolutely does not work for me 'Hey Jarvis'
    I think getting all the devices I have decent aliases so it knows what to control may take some time.
    Local processing on a VM with 2 CPUs and 4G of RAM is pretty slow. Takes about 10 seconds to action an switch and fails to understand about 20% of the time. Hybrid is much faster.
    Audio quality of the voice response is really not great. There are plenty voices to chose from, but none of them as polished as Alexa (so far)

    I think I have much to learn so not writing it off just yet.

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Oh god! Am I a trail blazer? This won't end well!

    Voice control / interaction is very much my thing. It's the future I was promised, and I'm still tapping away on 102 switches 😞

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    I won't be using it for music. I have a full Cyrus stack with Vienna Acoustics for music 🙂 Only want the interactive voice options

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  • Home Assistant Voice
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    Has anyone had a play with the local voice control for HA? I've got one on order because... 🙂

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  • Gradually turn on lights.
    CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    This was actually the use case that started my journey into HA eeeek years ago with a couple of X10 units since they were cheaper than sunrise lamps!

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