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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
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Handling Dead Entities and Renamed Entities
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Hello all.. been a minute! I recently rebuilt my Z wave network and migrated to a new z wave stick. In order to prevent any downtime I kept my original z wave network up and ran a docker version of Z Wave JS UI with my new controller. This way I could add device by device without having any devices down. I finally moved all the devices over to my new stick today. The final step was to migrate everything from my Docker instance of Z Wave JS UI to the HA add-on of Z Wave JS UI. However during this migration some of the names didn't populate correctly which I later managed to import back into Z Wave JS UI. The issue was in Reactor it is stuck on the default names and the entities are not updating. I removed the controller from Reactor, restarted, hard refreshed, and added the controller back however the new entity names have not updated. Also it seems like the old entities from my previous instance of Z Wave JS UI are lingering and not being marked as dead (I believe a certain amount of time needs to lapse before they're marked as dead in Reactor). My goal is to basically purge all the entities for the 'ZWaveJS' controller in Reactor so it can pull all the updated entity names and only the entities that exist in Z Wave JS UI. I cannot find a quick way to do this, I know entities can be deleted one by one, but with over 100 entities this would take long I am guessing that if I added the controller with a new name in in the Reactor config it would pull the updated entities and names but I think that would break my rules since the entity IDs would change (I made sure to name all the entities the exact same as they were previously to prevent this issue).
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Strange behavior for MQTT templates using payload and attributes
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[MSR] reactor-mqtt-contrib package for additional MQTT templates
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I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only). Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package: https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go. I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them. The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression. Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests
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HA 2025.9.4 Supported Yet?
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Tangentially did I miss 2025.9.4 getting blessed in MSR? I've been holding off Cheers C
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The reaction stopped working (Google Nest max playing a video)
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Rule Set UI bug - RESOLVED
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[Reactor] Copy&Paste of Rules
therealdbT
I don't know if I'm the only one, but managing more than one Reactor installs, the need to have some sort of copy&paste for rules has grown on me. While I understand the technical challenges, I'm wondering if a "god mode" where I could copy the raw JSON rule and paste it into another rule could be an advanced, flag only feature that could benefit power users. I know I can copy the JSON file and proceed, but I must stop Reactor and when doing maintenance, it's more clicks to do. Just an idea
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[Reactor] Help with screne controller cycling logic
therealdbT
I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically. That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button. Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF. The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule. Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Expose MSR entities
CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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Comment in Globa Expressions
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I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
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As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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Gradually turn on lights.
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I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Can't customize home page
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I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
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@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Another install issue

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    Patrick there is really not an easy way that I know of to copy and paste so attached a picture.

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      I'm asking this seriously, and in the friendliest way possible... I'm level-setting my expectations... are you new to Linux command line?

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        yes I have implemented nodejs on this device for another applications but I am a novice at linux. This is installed on my nvidia shield android tv box running termux.

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          OK. When a file reference/name is in the form "config/reactor.yaml", that means "a file called reactor.yaml in a subdirectory called config under the current directory". In Linux filenames, the "/" is a directory/path separator. Your screen shot shows that file is there in the config subdirectory.

          I suggest you spend a little time looking at some general Linux command line tutorials. We can keep giving you specific instructions here, but it's better if you get the fundamentals of how the file system works and the basic commands that are most used in navigating the file system before you start working with MSR, at least at this stage. It's critical that you always know where you are in the file system, and where what you want is in the file system, and how to bridge the gap between them if necessary (i.e. construct a pathname that refers to the correct file).

          In any case, you need a text editor. "nano" is a good choice, I think. You can just type "nano" by itself on the command line. If it takes you into an editor, it's installed and you're ready to go, just exit nano by typing CTRL-X. If you got an error saying that nano doesn't exist, you need to install it. Once available, you can edit the config file:

          # This is a comment
          # Use this form of the command if you are sitting in the "reactor" directory
          nano config/reactor.yaml
          
          # Or you can actually change directory to config and edit it there, two steps:
          cd config
          nano reactor.yaml
          

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            Well I learned something today.... I never knew the "dir" command existed in linux and thought it was a dos/windows command. I always used "ls" to list folder content. I am not familiar at all with the shield and I am wondering if it has a package distribution manager.

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              Sorry, did not realize config was referring to a directory. Got it can I copy reactor.yaml to my downloads folder ( I have access to that folder on my PC) then edit it using notepad ++ then copy it back?

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                Yes you can. As @toggledbits said though, it would be good to get familiar with the linux commands. As you will be configuring MSR, you may need to modify the config file quite often. Getting access to a text editor is essential and my previous post on the package distribution was to try to see if you can install packages (like nano) from the command line. It is essential when navigating and working on linux.

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                  Yes I understand, just trying to wrap this up before I start my work day.

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                    Just to add if you are using android and termux, you do not need to do this via command line. you can use a file explorer to extract the download file, and to move the config file. you can also edit the the yml file. I use x-plorer app.
                    The only thing that needs to be done via command line is to run the app.
                    [edit] your android device would need to be rooted to do this though. location of reactor files /data/data/com.termux/files/home/reactor

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                      Just to add if you are using android and termux, you do not need to do this via command line. you can use a file explorer to extract the download file, and to move the config file. you can also edit the the yml file. I use x-plorer app.
                      The only thing that needs to be done via command line is to run the app.
                      [edit] your android device would need to be rooted to do this though. location of reactor files /data/data/com.termux/files/home/reactor

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                      @elcid good to know. I have the x-plorer app. Thanks

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                        Ohh Android! like my oven... You can then also install an SSH server app so you can login to it from telnet/terminal and run everything from the command line. That's the other extreme.

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                          I think x-plorer has ssh capabilities, not sure is it acts a ssh server though. But termux probably does have an ssh addon

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                            @toggledbits, is the "configuration by yaml" a temporary measure, or permanent? I'm asking because I know by own experience that command line and text editing with it's need for precision is something that drives some to find other solutions. Especially apps that actually has a GUI. 🙂
                            Think thats why i went for Vera instead of HA or openHAB back in the day.. 😉

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                              Ok, install complete. Was able to access MSR via browser. Thanks for the help!

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                                Configuration by YAML is likely here to stay, but will not be the primary way of handling configuration. A "Settings" subsystem/UI is planned.

                                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                  Yeah... not in love with YAML myself thought I have gotten quite familiar with it since using homeassistant. I guess the plan is to keep the lower level system configuration in YAML (things like server ports and library paths) and move the client configs in a GUI?

                                  @Elcid, I just looked at my oven and indeed I am running an app called "SSH server" on it which was required for me to login to it remotely.

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                                    I also dislike YAML, but it's a compromise. Originally, everything was JSON, but the syntax is too detailed and too strict for the average user to consistently get right in editing, and it's harder to read. I went to YAML to ease some of those issues, but any of the config files can be either in JSON or YAML, it treats them equally. I could also go to an INI style, or an even flatter "controllers.vera.source=..." style, and support that as well. It really doesn't matter. I just grabbed what's handy.

                                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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