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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

    A rule-based reaction will not stop when the rule triggers/constraints that invoked it become false, unless there is a counter-reaction. This is a documented feature of Reactor (both for Vera and Multi-hub). A counter-reaction is an action that opposes the running reaction. For example, the reset reaction is the counter to the set reaction. If the set reaction starts, but the rule state changes and the reset reaction now needs to be run, the set reaction will be stopped, but only if the reset reaction is not empty. If the reset reaction is empty, the set reaction is allowed to finish.

    Also, your screen shots are all too small to see. I don't know if there's been a change to the forum software recently to manage space (by downsizing the images), or if you posted them at that small size/resolution, but they're barely readable, at least not for my old eyes. When I click on them, the forum displays them at the same size that they are in the posting, which isn't useful. It would also be helpful if you included the name of the rule (either as text in the description or as part of the screen shot) so I can tell what screen shot is what rule or reaction. It's not at all clear here, and I can't really respond further because of it. But my suggestion is that you make use of counter-activities if you can, rather than making extra rules and using stops.

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    @toggledbits Ok first part I understood, very good to understand that if there is no rule in case of reset the action will end. This already helps to improve.

    I will try to post the images again.

    Image of the first scene - action 1 that stops when the Delay starts within the group.

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    Action 2 which has in its execution the call to interrupt action 1 that is stopped running the Delay.

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    As I commented Action 2 when calling 1 does not interrupt the Delay stage and enters waiting, and also Action 1 enters waiting.

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    I will post again to see if it increases the image.

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      @toggledbits Ok first part I understood, very good to understand that if there is no rule in case of reset the action will end. This already helps to improve.

      I will try to post the images again.

      Image of the first scene - action 1 that stops when the Delay starts within the group.

      b8071ee5-72fa-4f7b-baac-55d7dd716628-image.png

      Action 2 which has in its execution the call to interrupt action 1 that is stopped running the Delay.

      3ff7bd1a-e200-4625-a3e9-6bbfd41a1a6e-image.png

      As I commented Action 2 when calling 1 does not interrupt the Delay stage and enters waiting, and also Action 1 enters waiting.

      a3f80fbc-1b56-4a73-85a1-bd1443b2860b-image.png

      I will post again to see if it increases the image.

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      Door Kitchen Close is action 1, the first image.
      Door Kitchen Opened is action 2, second image.

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        toggledbits
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        Update to 21236 and see if that continues. There was an issue stopping child tasks (I noted you had a constraint group in one reaction, and that's a child task).

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          Update to 21236 and see if that continues. There was an issue stopping child tasks (I noted you had a constraint group in one reaction, and that's a child task).

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          @toggledbits Ok I have already updated the version, but first I have to kill the processes that were in wating, how can I do?

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            Stop Reactor, remove the file storage/states/reaction_queue.json, and the start Reactor.

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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              Stop Reactor, remove the file storage/states/reaction_queue.json, and the start Reactor.

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              @toggledbits ok, I removed the file as you explained.

              But the new version still didn't solve the problem, I tried again and the Stop Action instruction is not stopping the current counter.

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              But I see something new, this line that indicates that the action stopped in "delayed".

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              See the screen print that MSR DISCONNECTED. Even with Ctrl + F5 it didn't come back. I had to stop the service, restart and then come back. Now see that the delayed line no longer appears on the status screen.

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              I repeated the test again, same result, disconnects the MSR and it is only possible to return by restarting the service, the Stop Reaction instruction does not stop the action that has a delay in progress, and then both are in waiting.

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              Restart the MSR

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                OK. Let's make sure you followed my instructions to the letter here, because I'm not getting a warm feeling from your description of events.

                You have to stop MSR completely first. Not restart. Stop. Full stop.

                Then you remove the file storage/states/reaction_queue.json from the Reactor install directory.

                Then you start Reactor again.

                When you've done this correctly, there will be no running/waiting/delayed processes in the status view, until you lauch your rules/reactions. But it should come up idle.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                  OK. Let's make sure you followed my instructions to the letter here, because I'm not getting a warm feeling from your description of events.

                  You have to stop MSR completely first. Not restart. Stop. Full stop.

                  Then you remove the file storage/states/reaction_queue.json from the Reactor install directory.

                  Then you start Reactor again.

                  When you've done this correctly, there will be no running/waiting/delayed processes in the status view, until you lauch your rules/reactions. But it should come up idle.

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                  @toggledbits correct, I followed your instruction exactly: stop MSR > remove file > star MSR > I executed the actions and it goes back to the waiting status. The instruction that exists in the Door Kitchen Opened action to stop the Door Kitchen Closed action does not happen. But now there is a new situation that is bringing down the MSR. To get it working again, I have to do a Stop > Start in the system.

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                    OK, I was able to build a test case that I think duplicates the behavior you are describing. And I was able to find the issue (I opened PR#254 to track it going forward). I will do an updated "latest" build shortly that contains the fix...

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      OK, I was able to build a test case that I think duplicates the behavior you are describing. And I was able to find the issue (I opened PR#254 to track it going forward). I will do an updated "latest" build shortly that contains the fix...

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                      @toggledbits problem solved, already downloaded and tested the version 21237 with the same previous scenario and worked perfect! Once again Super Patrick saves the day! Thanks.

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                        Ha! More like Lucky Patrick. But I'll take it. Good bug. Meaty, hard to find, important to find. Thanks for digging it out!

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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