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Rule for devices battery level ?

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  • IanI Ian

    @cw-kid

    I'm using this.

    7a996464-1926-424b-800c-7358045bc946-image.png

    This goes true when battery_low_names is populated with the names of the devices with low battery levels.

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    @ian

    That works !

    Easy when you know how..

    The trigger is now going false when no devices are in the battery_low_names expression results.

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      @cw-kid One of my to-do list tasks for expressions is to be able to create a list of devices that match a test. Until that comes, you can just build your own array of battery-operated devices like this (lets call this battery_device_list) :

      35882eb5-310f-41b1-a95e-eaf52dbc0bb8-image.png

      Then, you can reduce that list to all of the devices that have battery < 10%:

      c108f634-1ad1-4156-9e47-777c98c9d69b-image.png

      That leaves you with an array of the entities that have low battery. Use another expression to convert that into a comma-separated list of entity names:

      30ca5615-71c3-431e-b83f-d0aeff6144e4-image.png

      Your rule just checks to see if that battery_low_names (a string now) expression is not empty, and runs whatever notifications you want to run if it is not. You can include the battery_low_names variable in the text of your email or other notification, too.

      1bfd5d0f-1313-4613-ac2b-5731ddf5c594-image.png

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      @toggledbits said in Rule for devices battery level ?:

      (a string now) expression is not empty,

      Details.

      Also these can be rule expressions, they do not need to be global.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        Thanks I've changed the expressions to local rule ones instead and its all still working.

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          How can I make this rule re-trigger ?

          Say I don't immediate go replace the battery on the device mentioned, can I have the rule run the alerts / notifications each day or week until I have done it and changed the batteries ?

          Also can the alerts also state what the battery level percentage actually is ?

          Thanks

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            How can I make this rule re-trigger ?

            Say I don't immediate go replace the battery on the device mentioned, can I have the rule run the alerts / notifications each day or week until I have done it and changed the batteries ?

            Also can the alerts also state what the battery level percentage actually is ?

            Thanks

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            @cw-kid said in Rule for devices battery level ?:

            How can I make this rule re-trigger ?

            Wrap the condition in a group and put the group in "pulse" output mode with the timing you want.

            @cw-kid said in Rule for devices battery level ?:

            Also can the alerts also state what the battery level percentage actually is ?

            Yes, but I'm going to leave it as an exercise for the reader. Level of difficulty: moderate.

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            • cw-kidC cw-kid

              How can I make this rule re-trigger ?

              Say I don't immediate go replace the battery on the device mentioned, can I have the rule run the alerts / notifications each day or week until I have done it and changed the batteries ?

              Also can the alerts also state what the battery level percentage actually is ?

              Thanks

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              @cw-kid

              Try this.

              16c0d434-95ea-453d-b06e-e9a68663fbe5-image.png

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              • IanI Ian

                @cw-kid

                Try this.

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                @ian

                Thanks Ian that works, my Telegram text message now has the number% at the end of the message now.

                However this messes up the Google Home TTS announcement sent via node-red, if I have a "%" in the expression. So I had to change it to the word "percent" instead and now the TTS sounds correct when spoken.

                join( each id in battery_low_list: getEntity(id).name + " " + "at" + " " + int(getEntity(id).attributes.battery_power.level * 100) + " percent", ', ')
                
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                • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                  @cw-kid said in Rule for devices battery level ?:

                  How can I make this rule re-trigger ?

                  Wrap the condition in a group and put the group in "pulse" output mode with the timing you want.

                  @cw-kid said in Rule for devices battery level ?:

                  Also can the alerts also state what the battery level percentage actually is ?

                  Yes, but I'm going to leave it as an exercise for the reader. Level of difficulty: moderate.

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                  @toggledbits said in Rule for devices battery level ?:

                  Wrap the condition in a group and put the group in "pulse" output mode with the timing you want.

                  Like this?

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                  Seems to be working and the alerts are repeating every 60 seconds now. I will just set this to 24hrs I think.

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                  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                    @cw-kid One of my to-do list tasks for expressions is to be able to create a list of devices that match a test. Until that comes, you can just build your own array of battery-operated devices like this (lets call this battery_device_list) :

                    35882eb5-310f-41b1-a95e-eaf52dbc0bb8-image.png

                    Then, you can reduce that list to all of the devices that have battery < 10%:

                    c108f634-1ad1-4156-9e47-777c98c9d69b-image.png

                    That leaves you with an array of the entities that have low battery. Use another expression to convert that into a comma-separated list of entity names:

                    30ca5615-71c3-431e-b83f-d0aeff6144e4-image.png

                    Your rule just checks to see if that battery_low_names (a string now) expression is not empty, and runs whatever notifications you want to run if it is not. You can include the battery_low_names variable in the text of your email or other notification, too.

                    1bfd5d0f-1313-4613-ac2b-5731ddf5c594-image.png

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                    @toggledbits said in Rule for devices battery level ?:

                    One of my to-do list tasks for expressions is to be able to create a list of devices that match a test.

                    This is very useful, is it released yet or still on the to-do list?

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                      Still on the to-do list, but I think I'm close to figuring out what I want it to do. These things get harder with time: the more people use them, the more etched in stone they become, so making a "first guess" and completely changing things later isn't really something I want to do a lot of. If I can get something good on the first try, that's the way...

                      Here's what I'm thinking...

                      First, the matchEntities() function would quickly narrow down the set, in a manner similar to the filters on the Entities page and the Entity Picker:

                          living_room_sensors = matchEntities( { controller: 'vera', capability: [ 'binary_sensor', 'value_sensor'' ], group: 'Living Room' } )
                      

                      This would return an array of entities. From here, you could use an each statement to further filter any deep refinements. This expression would take the above array of sensors in the Living Room and pick out those that are battery powered and have battery level under 50%:

                          low_battery_living_room = each e in living_room_sensors: e.attributes.battery_power?.level <= 0.5 ? e : null
                      

                      I'm liking this approach because the function could do the bulk reduction of potential hundreds of entities down to a manageable list, and then the final filtering of the list can be done with expressions for maximum flexibility.

                      Any thoughts about that?

                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                        Still on the to-do list, but I think I'm close to figuring out what I want it to do. These things get harder with time: the more people use them, the more etched in stone they become, so making a "first guess" and completely changing things later isn't really something I want to do a lot of. If I can get something good on the first try, that's the way...

                        Here's what I'm thinking...

                        First, the matchEntities() function would quickly narrow down the set, in a manner similar to the filters on the Entities page and the Entity Picker:

                            living_room_sensors = matchEntities( { controller: 'vera', capability: [ 'binary_sensor', 'value_sensor'' ], group: 'Living Room' } )
                        

                        This would return an array of entities. From here, you could use an each statement to further filter any deep refinements. This expression would take the above array of sensors in the Living Room and pick out those that are battery powered and have battery level under 50%:

                            low_battery_living_room = each e in living_room_sensors: e.attributes.battery_power?.level <= 0.5 ? e : null
                        

                        I'm liking this approach because the function could do the bulk reduction of potential hundreds of entities down to a manageable list, and then the final filtering of the list can be done with expressions for maximum flexibility.

                        Any thoughts about that?

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                        @toggledbits That would do it for me, is the matchEntities() function already available in Expressions? I get no error but no matter what I do the Expression always returns an empty array.
                        I'd expect this to contain at least something:

                        matchEntities( { controller: 'vera', capability: 'humidity_sensor' } )
                        
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                          No, it's not yet available.

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                            Ah, that explains a lot 🙂 I like the idea, it seems very flexible.

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                              No, it's not yet available.

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                              @toggledbits Thanks, the new matchEntities() is brilliant. Now we can have dynamic arrays of devices.

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                                @toggledbits Thanks, the new matchEntities() is brilliant. Now we can have dynamic arrays of devices.

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                                @crille said in Rule for devices battery level ?:

                                Now we can have dynamic arrays of devices.

                                Tell me about that...

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                                  @crille said in Rule for devices battery level ?:

                                  Now we can have dynamic arrays of devices.

                                  Tell me about that...

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                                  @toggledbits Inspired by this topic I created a rule with similar expressions to monitor/notify x_ezlo_device.reachable for all my Ezlo devices. Instead of managing a static array, like the battery_device_list in this topic, the expression matchEntities( {capability: 'x_ezlo_device'} ) generates a list of devices that is dynamically updated if devices are added or removed from the controller.

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                                    No, it's not yet available.

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                                    @toggledbits I'm testing this new function, but somehow it does not show all the devices I'm expecting it to show. See examples below

                                    Screenshot 2021-09-30 at 17.34.23.png

                                    Array is empty, although it should contain one device:

                                    Screenshot 2021-09-30 at 17.41.02.png

                                    Strange, as device 216 definitely has capability "x_vera_device"

                                    Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT & ZWA-2

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                                      One of the issues I see in matchEntities() as it currently works is that it returns an array of entity objects with attribute values, but it does not update that array when any of the returned entities' attributes or other values changes. So it's certain, then, that the attributes will go stale in the result array.

                                      For the next build, I will change the definition of this function to return canonical entity IDs only, rather than entity objects, so you will have to use getEntity() in your each over the results, as you did with your test_array example, and this will ensure that you are always looking at the latest attributes. You can test this theory now by modifying your each for d_failure_list to use getEntity( id.canonical_id ).

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                                        One of the issues I see in matchEntities() as it currently works is that it returns an array of entity objects with attribute values, but it does not update that array when any of the returned entities' attributes or other values changes. So it's certain, then, that the attributes will go stale in the result array.

                                        For the next build, I will change the definition of this function to return canonical entity IDs only, rather than entity objects, so you will have to use getEntity() in your each over the results, as you did with your test_array example, and this will ensure that you are always looking at the latest attributes. You can test this theory now by modifying your each for d_failure_list to use getEntity( id.canonical_id ).

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                                        @toggledbits did what you suggested, but situation didn't really change, array is still empty:

                                        Screenshot 2021-09-30 at 19.25.05.png

                                        Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT & ZWA-2

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                                          Can you show the entity detail for device 216 please?

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