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case statement with a single when clause fails

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    wrote on last edited by tunnus
    #1

    Noticed that if I try to use a case statement, I'll have to have multiple when clauses, otherwise I'll get syntax error.

    (I tried to include a screenshot, but got parse error from the forum...)

    The following works:

    case
      when condition == true: "This is true" 
      when condition == false: "Now it is false"
      else "Something else"
    end
    

    But this will end up with syntax error:

    case
      when condition == true: "This is true" 
      else "Something else"
    end
    

    Using build 23242 on Docker

    Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT

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      Well I stumbled across exactly the same bug and was able to resolve the problem only because @tunnus knew what was the issue.

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        I'll look into the issue, but two things:

        1. A case with only a single when (and possibly an else) is an if statement, so why not use that? This is the workaround/recommendation. Using case in this way just seems unnecessarily complex
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        2. Saying x == true is redundant. I see this a lot, and my old-school software guy brain just chirps a little every time. If you know x is boolean, you can just write if x then or when x then:. What you're doing is comparing true for equality to true and getting true as a result, or comparing false to true and getting back false -- you're getting out of the expression the value that you already have. I come from an era where CPU cycles and RAM were very precious commodities even in the largest systems, and my brain is still wired to remove wasted cycles like this.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          A case with only a single when (and possibly an else) is an if statement, so why not use that? This is the workaround/recommendation. Using case in this way just seems unnecessarily complex

          Well that's true and I don't think anyone uses the case-when structure with a single when. But for example in my case, I was testing the expressions, had written only one section and was getting this mysterious syntax error. As a software engineer myself, coming from C / Java / JS background, I naturally associated the case-when structure to switch-case where it's perfectly fine to have a single case, although as you mentioned, does not make much sense.

          This is not a bug that needs to be necessarily fixed ASAP, but it would be nice if you could add a clarification to the manual, stating that the case-when structure must have at least two when sections.

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            It'll be fixed in the next release. You are right; it should work. The bug actually arises from the else, not the single when. Oopsie!

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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