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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
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Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
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TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Copying a global reaction
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
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I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
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Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Location of the rules on filesystem (.json etc) in HA Add-On

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    Just copy the entire storage and config directories. Then modify your config if needed. That’s backup/restore in MSR world.

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    @therealdb That was the whole problem - I Couldn't find the storage directory in the destination 😄

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      Be Warned:
      Just in case anyone else is using the Add-on in HA, There is an issue where global expressions all get deleted on host reboot.
      I had created a test rule when i first installed the add-on. and restarted the host with no issues. I did this because on github add-on page people have complained global expressions get deleted on host reboot and I wanted to test)
      Since then i've created 20 or so more and needed to reboot the host. I was greeted with all the new expressions missing, and only the test one i had deleted since showing again.
      Interestingly a backup of the addon i had taken when everything was fine last night, contained only the test rule. So something isn't saving the live configuration properly somewhere.
      My solution: (luckily had a backup of expressions.json from my old host)
      export a reactor add-on backup, replace just the expressions.json using z-zip, reupload the backup and restore it.
      I've checked /data/reactor/storage/ and the correct file is now there.
      Unsure if this is related to the addon being latest-23063-c464b685 or not.

      If anyone knows if i can/a way to update this version inside the docker container the add-on creates, i'm all for trying it.
      Maybe I could have copied this into the docker container, but I wanted to make sure I also had a backup that was restorable and copying into docker isn't as simple.

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        Be Warned:
        Just in case anyone else is using the Add-on in HA, There is an issue where global expressions all get deleted on host reboot.
        I had created a test rule when i first installed the add-on. and restarted the host with no issues. I did this because on github add-on page people have complained global expressions get deleted on host reboot and I wanted to test)
        Since then i've created 20 or so more and needed to reboot the host. I was greeted with all the new expressions missing, and only the test one i had deleted since showing again.
        Interestingly a backup of the addon i had taken when everything was fine last night, contained only the test rule. So something isn't saving the live configuration properly somewhere.
        My solution: (luckily had a backup of expressions.json from my old host)
        export a reactor add-on backup, replace just the expressions.json using z-zip, reupload the backup and restore it.
        I've checked /data/reactor/storage/ and the correct file is now there.
        Unsure if this is related to the addon being latest-23063-c464b685 or not.

        If anyone knows if i can/a way to update this version inside the docker container the add-on creates, i'm all for trying it.
        Maybe I could have copied this into the docker container, but I wanted to make sure I also had a backup that was restorable and copying into docker isn't as simple.

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        @Cadwizzard said in Location of the rules on filesystem (.json etc) in HA Add-On:

        So something isn't saving the live configuration properly somewhere.

        Any time you back up a running system, you run the risk that data hasn't been flushed from cache to non-volatile storage. This applies to everything, not just Reactor.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          @Cadwizzard said in Location of the rules on filesystem (.json etc) in HA Add-On:

          So something isn't saving the live configuration properly somewhere.

          Any time you back up a running system, you run the risk that data hasn't been flushed from cache to non-volatile storage. This applies to everything, not just Reactor.

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          @toggledbits That I understand.
          But in case I was unclear above. I had a lot of saved and working global expressions that were lost after a host restart. They referred back to one test expression I'd previously created. I then went to the backup to find that was the same 🙂

          Is there a way I could update this docker container myself to the latest version of msr. The add-on maintainer seems absent and I don't want to fall behind.
          Docker is not at all my speciality but I can follow guides/instructions.
          I used docker-compose on the pi, but on the HA Yellow it looks like HA OS is is protected and wipes out anything not in the homeassistant directory or the installed plugin containers (including when I installed the docker-compose plugin).
          Would it just be a case of logging into the container and running the normal docker pull commands, or running them outside the container but specifying the docker container in the command?

          Many thanks!

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            @Cadwizzard said in Location of the rules on filesystem (.json etc) in HA Add-On:

            So something isn't saving the live configuration properly somewhere.

            Any time you back up a running system, you run the risk that data hasn't been flushed from cache to non-volatile storage. This applies to everything, not just Reactor.

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            Don't mean to highjack this thread, but when I do a reactor backup, reactor is usually running when the backup occurs. Should I instead shutdown reactor then back it up?

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              @toggledbits That I understand.
              But in case I was unclear above. I had a lot of saved and working global expressions that were lost after a host restart. They referred back to one test expression I'd previously created. I then went to the backup to find that was the same 🙂

              Is there a way I could update this docker container myself to the latest version of msr. The add-on maintainer seems absent and I don't want to fall behind.
              Docker is not at all my speciality but I can follow guides/instructions.
              I used docker-compose on the pi, but on the HA Yellow it looks like HA OS is is protected and wipes out anything not in the homeassistant directory or the installed plugin containers (including when I installed the docker-compose plugin).
              Would it just be a case of logging into the container and running the normal docker pull commands, or running them outside the container but specifying the docker container in the command?

              Many thanks!

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              @Cadwizzard said in Location of the rules on filesystem (.json etc) in HA Add-On:

              Is there a way I could update this docker container myself to the latest version of msr.

              I wouldn't know (I didn't create the HA Add-On and I don't provide support for it), but maybe @mrw298 can produce an updated version?

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                Don't mean to highjack this thread, but when I do a reactor backup, reactor is usually running when the backup occurs. Should I instead shutdown reactor then back it up?

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                @Pabla I've been running Reactor for years across many platforms and never ever had an issue with backups doing weird things - until running the add-on install.
                I never saw it with a docker install as per toggledbits installation guides.

                This issue may be just related to the add-on as i've never heard of expressions disappearing before, until here and my install: https://github.com/mrw298/hassio-reactor-addon/issues

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                  @Cadwizzard said in Location of the rules on filesystem (.json etc) in HA Add-On:

                  Is there a way I could update this docker container myself to the latest version of msr.

                  I wouldn't know (I didn't create the HA Add-On and I don't provide support for it), but maybe @mrw298 can produce an updated version?

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                  @toggledbits @mrw298 was last showing online here in March.
                  Thats why I was reaching out in this forum for wider experience 🙂

                  Do you or @Pabla happen to be able to answer a more generic question about Docker in the context of HA (and i'll run the risk myself of something going wrong).

                  Kind of forgetting that MSA was installed via the add-on, it currently exists in a docker container in HA yellow, which i can see and access via SSH
                  Should upgrading it mean running commands inside the container, or somehow specifying the addon container by name to update MSR inside it?

                  I'm really trying to learn more about how docker updates/linux inter-relate, but MSR is literally the only use case i have for it. I'm not a linux specialist, more of Windows sysadmin with vmware etc and only touch linux/docker for Home Assistant/MSR and PiHole, so there is a lot of trial an error with this for me 🙂 It's not yet clear about the possibilities or the best way to interact with docker after someone/thing else has created containers like in the add-on.

                  @toggledbits btw your guides are actually great when installing MSR from scratch, thanks for taking the time with the documentation, it really helped previously move from Vera to Pi and keep MSR on the same hardware.

                  Any tips really appreciated.

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                    You could attach to the running Reactor container (typically) using docker exec -it reactor /bin/sh. This assumes that the container name is reactor; you may need to use docker ps to establish the actual container name, or alternately, use its ID in the docker exec command.

                    From there, you should be able to go to the directory above the container's running Reactor: cd /opt

                    Then, you can download the latest Reactor:

                        wget 'https://reactor.toggledbits.com/download/latest/<image-tarball-name>'
                    

                    Then, un-tar the image in place: tar xvzf <image-tarball-name>. This will overwrite the Reactor install files native to the container with the files from the downloaded tarball.

                    Restart the container and it should be running on the installed/updated version.

                    A word of caution: This process only modifies the running docker container. It does not modify the image. I have no idea how HA handles the containers for add-ons. If the container is destroyed and recreated on every startup of HA or its add-ons, then your changes will go away, because the container is being rebuilt from the image, and the image has the original as-built Reactor files on it.

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                      So, @toggledbits - thanks again.
                      It IS possible to update the docker container. It does survive a Home assistant restart..... but not a host reboot. The version reverts. So the container is rebuilt.

                      I've built a test Pi with HAOS on it for testing outside of Prod.
                      I created one test rule and one global expression while testing the updates.

                      Host reboot wiped out the global expressions again. @mrw298 There is definitely some fault with the add-on, this is a completely seperate install and hardware with no config, except the SSL and Reactor add-on installed.

                      I guess this leaves me to try to figure out where is safe to manually install reactor in HAOS and get round the "Error response from daemon: error while creating mount source path '[any path]': mkdir [any path]: read-only file system"
                      Update-
                      Actually the whole point of moving to HA Yellow was to be on a fully supported HAOS - So I'm going have to learn how to build my own local add-on to pull reactor into a supported container. My need is to run reactor on the same hardware as HA, and not have to rely on other plugin maintainers to stay in a supported MSR version 🙂

                      @toggledbits - have you considered building a Home assistant Add-on for Reactor at all?

                      Thanks again

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                        So, @toggledbits - thanks again.
                        It IS possible to update the docker container. It does survive a Home assistant restart..... but not a host reboot. The version reverts. So the container is rebuilt.

                        I've built a test Pi with HAOS on it for testing outside of Prod.
                        I created one test rule and one global expression while testing the updates.

                        Host reboot wiped out the global expressions again. @mrw298 There is definitely some fault with the add-on, this is a completely seperate install and hardware with no config, except the SSL and Reactor add-on installed.

                        I guess this leaves me to try to figure out where is safe to manually install reactor in HAOS and get round the "Error response from daemon: error while creating mount source path '[any path]': mkdir [any path]: read-only file system"
                        Update-
                        Actually the whole point of moving to HA Yellow was to be on a fully supported HAOS - So I'm going have to learn how to build my own local add-on to pull reactor into a supported container. My need is to run reactor on the same hardware as HA, and not have to rely on other plugin maintainers to stay in a supported MSR version 🙂

                        @toggledbits - have you considered building a Home assistant Add-on for Reactor at all?

                        Thanks again

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                        @Cadwizzard said in Location of the rules on filesystem (.json etc) in HA Add-On:

                        have you considered building a Home assistant Add-on for Reactor at all?

                        No. There's more to it than building, as you are finding out. That also means I have to support it, including understanding how to do remote troubleshooting and debugging in that environment. It's not on my radar right now.

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                          @toggledbits thanks.
                          I've modified the build.sh from the other add-on and set up docker hub. Despite not fully being able to understand what and where Linux read/write errors actually arise from, I've got the files built and pushed. Had to use a pi to build the arm and aarch, then Ubuntu in Windows to build the amd64 due to errors and warnings about architecture. Unsure if that has to be that way, or they should be buildable from one platform or not.
                          This was the better idea as when I tried to update the other add-on container, msr warned about node.js being out of date by doing it that way.
                          I've got my version loading from a local plug in and pulled/running from GitHub now on my test install. Only thing to work out
                          Only thing left to work out is why the alerts/entities aren't updating, but I'm thinking that's because the default in msr points to a dns name for HA. Which is likely resolving to my prod HA Yellow (incorrect login alerts on there also point to that). Was a rush before I needed to head away. I'll backup/remove and pull the new add-on to my prod. hardware once at a computer I can work properly from, then copy the rulesets etc into a backup for that and re-export it.
                          Appreciate the tips from you and @Pabla
                          It's a bit more work to build the files and pull into my own add-on but it's better I have the control and still run a supported HA install 🙂

                          Update: That was it, installed/updated Reactor on my HA Yellow, entities updating as expected 🙂

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