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CatmanV2C
Having been messing around with some stuff I worked a way to self trigger some tests that I wanted to do on the HA <> MSR integration This got me wondering if there's an entity that changes state / is exposed when a configured controller goes off line? I can't see one but thought it might be hidden or something? Cheers C
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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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CatmanV2C
I'm sure this has been asked, and answered, but damned if I can figure it out Use case: I have a rear garden with lights. A door from the kitchen into the garden and a door from the garage. Currently if I open the kitchen door the lights come on (yay) and a 3 minute delay starts. After 3 minutes, no matter what else happens, the lights go off (Boo! But also yay!) What I would like is for the 3 minute delay until the lights go off to start from the latest door open event. That is, if I'm going from kitchen to garage, and back again, the lights stay on until there's three minutes of no activity. I've tried 'hacking' with a virtual switch, but can't seem to stop the delay. Any pointers? TIA C
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Sunset with offset didn't run

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    cw-kid
    wrote on last edited by
    #12

    I was also the one who had issues saving PLEG changes many years ago and Richard eventually got to the bottom of it and managed to sort out the issue.

    Maybe I have bad luck, but I cannot currently save any MSR rules I modify by adding new triggers or deleting them.

    I am only reporting what I am seeing.

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      It's 2 29 am here now this rule just fired and turned on my lounge lamps.

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      @cw-kid said in Sunset with offset didn't run:

      It's 2 29 am here now this rule just fired and turned on my lounge lamps.

      I think there might be something going on with sunrise/sunset too. Im pretty sure sunset was 90 minutes late triggering for me. Im doing some more testing on that though to confirm.

      @cw-kid said in Sunset with offset didn't run:

      Actually any time I manually turn off the lounge lamps via my Harmony remote it's now firing the MSR rule and turning them back on.

      If your rule is the same as posted above, this is because you have a condition in the rule for the lamp being false, meaning the rule will be false when the lamp is on and then when it goes off, it becomes true again.

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        cw-kid
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        #14

        I'm not saying my rule is correct.

        It most likely isn't

        I wanted to include a check that the turn on lamps rule is only run if the lamps are off in the first place.

        If the lamps are already on then there's no need to have the rule action run.

        So if I've set it up wrong what is the best way to handle this

        I am a Reactor newbie..

        Thanks.

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          I'm not saying my rule is correct.

          It most likely isn't

          I wanted to include a check that the turn on lamps rule is only run if the lamps are off in the first place.

          If the lamps are already on then there's no need to have the rule action run.

          So if I've set it up wrong what is the best way to handle this

          I am a Reactor newbie..

          Thanks.

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          kfxo
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          #15

          @cw-kid said in Sunset with offset didn't run:

          I'm not saying my rule is correct.

          It most likely isn't

          I wanted to include a check that the turn on lamps rule is only run if the lamps are off in the first place.

          If the lamps are already on then there's no need to have the rule action run.

          So if I've set it up wrong what is the best way to handle this

          I am a Reactor newbie..

          Thanks.

          You need to use the constraints. These are new and Im not exactly positive on the answer at this time but I think you would check if the lights are off in the constraint.

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            cw-kid
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            #16

            OK thanks. I was advised not to use Contraints whilst learning MSR.

            Seems I have a learning curve to get over and I apologise for being a pain in the arse for the next few months to everyone in this forum.. 😁

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              #17

              Stop thinking PLEG......It will only frustrate you especially if you are trying to test the status of a device.
              I'm not sure if you can actually do it as you would in PLEG, yes, I know it's frustrating but to move forward you need to unlearn what you already know.

              aka Zedrally

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                toggledbits
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                #18

                Make sure you upgrade to 21050 if you haven't already.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  cw-kid
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                  #19

                  I have the same issue using a different web browser Microsoft Edge. I added a new trigger to an existing rule and the save buttons aren't clickable.

                  Are there any instructions on how to upgrade to the new version of Reactor for Raspberry Pi ?

                  Thank you

                  I've found the update instructions trying it now.

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                    I have the same issue using a different web browser Microsoft Edge. I added a new trigger to an existing rule and the save buttons aren't clickable.

                    Are there any instructions on how to upgrade to the new version of Reactor for Raspberry Pi ?

                    Thank you

                    I've found the update instructions trying it now.

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                    Installation - Reactor - Multi-Hub Automation
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                      #21

                      I'm stuck on the part that says restart reactor. How do I do that ?

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                        Elcid
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                        #22

                        "node app.js" - if still in trial mode
                        or
                        "nohup ./app.sh &" - if running under script

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                          #23

                          I've messed it up, looks like I have the new reactor installation within the old one, as I now have two reactor folders.

                          32aaf382-ecff-4c3a-b6fe-d83df0dfeb4d-image.png

                          I guess I'll delete the reactor sub-folder and try it again.

                          The date stamps are yesterday though.

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                            #24

                            Yes you want to be in the folder that holds the reactor folder (documents), when you tar xzvf.... . I found the instructions confusing to.

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                              Is this command wrong then ? The tar.gz file is located in the /Documents folder.

                              cd /home/pi/Documents/reactor
                              tar xzvf /home/pi/Documents/reactor-0.1-21050-f5e9257.tar.gz

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                                Like that then

                                cd /home/pi/Documents/
                                tar xzvf /home/pi/Documents/reactor-0.1-21050-f5e9257.tar.gz

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                                  Yes, that's correct

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                                    #28

                                    OK I am now on version 0.1.21050

                                    Thanks

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                                      OK I just added two new triggers to an existing rule and I can now save OK. So looks like Patrick has fixed it, many thanks.

                                      Now I need to figure out why this sunset rule to turn on my lounge lamps isn't working any tips ?

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                                        I think I am not understanding this:

                                        before <time> -- will be true between midnight and time (changes to false at time);
                                        after <time> -- will be true between time and midnight (changes to false at midnight).

                                        This is the current triggers

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                                        Late last night around 2:30am when I turned off the lamps the rule was then firing and turning them back on.

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                                          #31

                                          Would that not be after sunset - 40

                                          so if sunset is 5.00pm
                                          the light would turn on only after 4.20pm up to midnight

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