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Local expression in Rule does not evaluate as they used to do
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Home Assistant 2025.11.2 and latest-25315
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Notice to Docker + ARM Users (RPi 3/4/5 and others)
toggledbitsT
This post does not apply to users of Intel/AMD-based systems. If you are using a Reactor image tagged latest-amd64 or stable-amd64, then this post does not apply to you. It also does not apply to bare-metal installs; it's for users of docker images on ARM-based systems only (principally Raspberry Pi hosts, but could be others). After January 15, 2026, I will no longer produce the aarch64-tagged docker image for Reactor. The ARM images will be arm64 for 64-bit operating systems, and armv7l for 32-bit operating systems. For those of you running a container from the aarch64 image today, this will be a relatively simple change: you just need to switch the image used for your docker container to a differently-tagged image. If you are using docker-compose, then this is a relatively simple matter of changing the image line in your docker-compose.yaml file and then stopping (docker-compose down) and restarting (docker-compose up -d) your Reactor daemon. But there's a catch... not all of you can safely just switch from the aarch64 image to the arm64 image. And, you can't just trust the output of uname -m, for example, because this exposes the CPU architecture, but not the word size of the OS running on that CPU. For Raspberry Pi systems, the transition to 64-bit operating systems was long (starting in 2016) and not always obvious — although there was a first "official" 64-bit OS for RPis in 2020, it did not become a default recommendation in the Raspberry Pi Imager until 2021, and then that was only the default for Pi 3/4 systems with >4GB RAM; it was 2022 before it was universally recommended for all 64-bit CPUs regardless of RAM size. Depending on when you first imaged your RPi system and what default you may have been offered/chosen, you could today easily have a 64-bit CPU Raspberry Pi running a 32-bit version of the operating system. Upgrades along the way would not change this; changing it to fully 64-bit requires a full reimage of the system. To establish if your OS is 64- or 32-bit, log in to your Pi and run: sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH. If the response is arm64 or aarch64, then you are running a 64-bit OS and you should use the arm64-tagged image. If it's anything else, you are running a 32-bit OS, and you should use the armv7l-tagged image. pi@rpi4-1:~ $ sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH armhf pi@rpi4-1:~ $ uname -m aarch64 pi@rpi4-1:~ $ In the example above, the uname command reports that the CPU is 64-bit architecture (aarch64), which is true for the host on which I ran these commands, but the DEB_HOST_ARCH value is armhf, indicating a 32-bit operating system. This system has to use the armv7l-tagged image. Other systems will have their own ways of determining the word size of the running OS. Since the majority of Reactor users running ARM systems are on Raspberry Pis, I am able to supply the above instructions, but if you happen to have a different ARM system, you'll need to do some web searching to figure out how to expose that information. Or, you can just try the arm64 image, and if it doesn't start up, try the armv7l image. Remember to always back up your system before making any changes. For everyone, please make this change as soon as possible, and if you have any trouble finding a working image, please (1) go back to the current aarch64 image; and (2) let me know in this thread along with as much detail about your host system as you can offer (including the output of the dpkg-architecture command mentioned above).
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Requesting a proper ARM64/aarch64 Docker image (Pi 5 support)
M
Hi, I'm in the process of migrating from a Raspberry Pi 4 (ARMv7) to a Raspberry Pi 5 (ARMv8/aarch64), but I’ve run into an issue: there is no proper ARMv8/aarch64 image available. None of the existing images run on the Pi 5 - they all exit immediately with code 139 (segmentation fault), which typically indicates that the binaries inside the image are not compatible with the ARM64/aarch64 architecture used by the Pi 5. Would it be possible to publish a correct ARMv8/aarch64 (linux/arm64) image? Building one should be relatively straightforward using docker buildx with multi-arch support. For example, my own Node.js images are built this way: docker buildx build --push \ -t <localrepo>/<project>:<tag> \ --platform=linux/arm64,linux/amd64 \ --file ./apps/<project>/Dockerfile . This produces both the AMD64 and ARM64/v8 variants automatically. Also, as a side note, it may be best to avoid using Alpine as the base image for the ARM64 build, since musl-based builds often cause compatibility issues and unnecessary headaches. A glibc-based base image (e.g., Debian or Ubuntu) tends to work far more reliably on ARM64, especially for Node.js applications. @toggledbits - tagging you in case you missed this. Thanks, mgvra
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Script action and custom timers
therealdbT
Sorry to write here without trying, but I’m flying today. Am I correct if i say that script action with alarm() makes it possible to execute a reaction in a given interval, lets say 15 seconds or 3.5 minutes? That sounds amazing, since I’ve used weird tricks, including a custom controller, just to do this.
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Help resolve change in behaviour post update
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Reactor w/HA 2025.11 error on set_datetime service call setting only time
CrilleC
@toggledbits Do you know if this is related to that PR or is it a change they made in 2025.11.1? [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.319Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag with { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.320Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "10:45", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": (null) }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_dag" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984320<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "10:45" }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"10:45","datetime":null,"timestamp":null},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_dag"},"id":1762866984320} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 0 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 1 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt with { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "03:00", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": 0 }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_natt" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984323<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"03:00","datetime":null,"timestamp":0},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_natt"},"id":1762866984323} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 1 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 2 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> all actions completed.
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Reactor Version 25310 : Office Light control via rule in reactor no longer working since last update.
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Hello, I currently have an office light (connected via a Leviton Zwave Dimmer switch) controlled from a Gen5 Aeotech Zwave switch installed on my Synology 720+ NAS. I run HA(2025.11.10) in a virtual machine from my NAS and Reactor on the container manager of the same NAS. Prior to updating to 25304 the rule I had set to turn the light on to a specific dimming value worked correctly. Now the rule appears to follow the decision tree, however the reaction does not trigger setting the dimming or turning on the office light? Strangely I can still turn the light on and off as well as dim it directly from HASS..? I have tried using the ''try this action'' button in the rules reaction setting and it will not control the light and does not throw an error flagÉ Please help, P.S Reactor has been rock steady for me over the last few years and I'm a big fan of this solution.
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[Solved] Define function issue in latest-25304
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No Upgrade Notification for Build 25308?
CatmanV2C
FWIW I'm no longer getting a notification from MSR that there's an update. Just thought I'd mention it C
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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
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Handling Dead Entities and Renamed Entities
PablaP
Hello all.. been a minute! I recently rebuilt my Z wave network and migrated to a new z wave stick. In order to prevent any downtime I kept my original z wave network up and ran a docker version of Z Wave JS UI with my new controller. This way I could add device by device without having any devices down. I finally moved all the devices over to my new stick today. The final step was to migrate everything from my Docker instance of Z Wave JS UI to the HA add-on of Z Wave JS UI. However during this migration some of the names didn't populate correctly which I later managed to import back into Z Wave JS UI. The issue was in Reactor it is stuck on the default names and the entities are not updating. I removed the controller from Reactor, restarted, hard refreshed, and added the controller back however the new entity names have not updated. Also it seems like the old entities from my previous instance of Z Wave JS UI are lingering and not being marked as dead (I believe a certain amount of time needs to lapse before they're marked as dead in Reactor). My goal is to basically purge all the entities for the 'ZWaveJS' controller in Reactor so it can pull all the updated entity names and only the entities that exist in Z Wave JS UI. I cannot find a quick way to do this, I know entities can be deleted one by one, but with over 100 entities this would take long I am guessing that if I added the controller with a new name in in the Reactor config it would pull the updated entities and names but I think that would break my rules since the entity IDs would change (I made sure to name all the entities the exact same as they were previously to prevent this issue).
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[MSR] reactor-mqtt-contrib package for additional MQTT templates
therealdbT
I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only). Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package: https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go. I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them. The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression. Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests
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HA 2025.9.4 Supported Yet?
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Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR

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    LibraSun
    wrote on last edited by LibraSun
    #51

    (Also, I prefer to simply create another variable and set its value to cointensity.data[0].data[0].intensity.forecast and then reference THAT variable in my ${{ }} substitution. Why? Because this gives MSR a chance to tell me exactly where my expression is going wrong.)

    If you follow this scheme in your workflow, you can entirely avoid having to use [Set Variable] so often, since the dependent variables will all "set themselves" immediately.

    For example, a change to response will automatically update the values in any variable(s) defined by response.stuff or response.stuff.still.more.stuff (caveat: as long as those variables appear below response in your list of Expressions!).

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    • LibraSunL LibraSun

      I misled you a bit. MSR uses lexpjs, which references array elements in square brackets [] not the parentheses I first wrote (I'll edit my response, above).

      Go with cointensity.data[0].data[0].intensity.forecast

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      #52

      @librasun

      Thanks its working now.

      These are the Global Expressions and its pulling in the correct data now.

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        #53

        Think I need a Vera plugin Dev.

        I've tried to create a modified GenericIO device with four variables but its not working.

        My MSR rule is sending out the data to each variable in Vera OK

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        But I can't seem to get that data to display on the front of the device in the web GUI.

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        Also for the Home Remote dashboard app, I'd need the generic sensor device and its data fully exposing to the SDATA stream. As Home Remote uses that for integration in to Vera etc.

        So close, but I don't think I'm going to be able to properly create these types of devices in Vera myself.

        EDIT:

        Got it working now, I was using the wrong ServiceID in my MSR rule to set the variables.

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        Now I just need to figure out how to get this data in to the Vera SDATA output stream for Home Remote to see.

        This is all I am seeing in SDATA currently:

         { "name": "Covid-19 Stats", "altid": "", "id": 703, "category": 0, "subcategory": -1, "room": 8, "parent": 0, "configured": "0", "light": "4325315" },
        

        "light" is showing "4325315" which is the Confirmed number of Covid Cases, so that's a start, I need the other variables exposing to the SDATA stream some how.

        EDIT2: I've added more <stateVariable> sections in to the S_GenericSensor2.xml file and now I can see all four variables data in the SDATA output stream, so I should now be able to add this device in to Home Remote and see all the data.

        { "name": "Covid-19 Stats", "altid": "", "id": 703, "category": 0, "subcategory": -1, "room": 8, "parent": 0, "variable2": "3768434", "variable3": "630", "variable4": "126515", "variable1": "4325315", "configured": "0" }
        

        EDIT3: I now have a tile on a dashboard page in the Home Remote app.

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        So as a proof of concept this works.

        Just need an easier way to create these virtual devices in Vera.

        Someone on the Vera forum suggested taking a look at the MultiString plugin.

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          #54

          It's moments like this that I'm grateful for online Forums where the open exchange of ideas and experience works to everyone's advantage, without fear of reprisal from those "in charge". 🙂

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            wrote on last edited by cw-kid
            #55

            Just testing some different online API's see what's possible.

            If your in the UK the National Grid have a Carbon Intensity online API here. This is for my region / area.

            The data also breaks down by percent the types of generation used, Wind, Solar, Nuclear, Coal etc but not added that as yet.

            Vera:

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            Home Remote:

            Need to play about with the tiles and add an icon and reposition some items yet.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #56

              I've tried the Vera Multi-String plugin, it looks just like the type of plugin I was needing and looking for.

              You can have up to five variables on a device.

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              You can then have your rule in MSR send the data to each variable etc.

              The Multi-String plugin devices data is also outputted in the Vera SDATA stream so these device will also work with the Home Remote dashboard app.

              { "name": "Covid-19 Stats", "altid": "", "id": 133, "category": 0, "subcategory": -1, "room": 0, "parent": 0, "variablename1": "Confirmed", "variable1": "4329180", "variablename2": "Recovered", "variable2": "3787312", "variablename3": "Critical", "variable3": "615", "variablename4": "Deaths", "variable4": "126573", "variablename5": "", "variable5": "", "options": "", "configured": "0" },
              

              So I recommend using the Multi-String plugin rather than trying to create your own modified Generic IO devices as I was doing.

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                  wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                  #58

                  @cw-kid if one wanted to set all 5 parameter values at the same time, using an HTTP call to Vera, could that be done? (If so, I'd need to see a working example of a GET Request that does this.) Or would I have to issue 5 distinct calls to set those variables?

                  P.S. I see from this old post that I'm not the first one to wonder.

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                    It’s so trivial to make a custom request handler in Luup... really it’s one of its best feature. So, in this case, indeed, “roll your own” and simply set the required variables per the content of the request.

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                    • LibraSunL LibraSun

                      @cw-kid if one wanted to set all 5 parameter values at the same time, using an HTTP call to Vera, could that be done? (If so, I'd need to see a working example of a GET Request that does this.) Or would I have to issue 5 distinct calls to set those variables?

                      P.S. I see from this old post that I'm not the first one to wonder.

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                      @librasun

                      I am doing a different http request to Vera to set each variable not one request that set them all.

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                      • cw-kidC cw-kid

                        @librasun

                        I am doing a different http request to Vera to set each variable not one request that set them all.

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                        @cw-kid said in Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR:

                        @librasun

                        I am doing a different http request to Vera to set each variable not one request that set them all.

                        Yeah, something tells me setting more than one at a time isn't possible, anyway. Just thought I'd ask the pros. 🙂 Thanks!

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                        • LibraSunL LibraSun

                          You can take not-terribly-human-readable blobs like that over to a JSON Pretty Print website (such as https://jsonformatter.org/json-pretty-print), paste it in and hit the "Outline" button, to see how the data looks in its underlying structure.
                          json_pretty_print.png This allows you to quickly pinpoint the blob.key.subkey.data item you need to pull from in MSR.

                          Traversing the tree from upper-left to lower-right, I see the first instance of "forcecast" lives inside an overall object {} (I'm naming response), then the first item (i.e. element 0) of an array [] within data, then inside another array within another key called data, then a key called intensity, and finally the key you want, forecast, yielding:
                          response.data[0].data[0].intensity.forecast

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                          @librasun Reviving this a bit because this right here is where I think I'm failing spectacularly.

                          I'm working with the Ambient API for my weather station via Site Sensor in Vera. This thread has been fantastic at guiding me toward migrating the Site Sensor into MSR. Here's where I'm falling down:

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                          The GET returns expected results. However, I believe I've messed up in creating the expressions for temp, wind speed, wind gust, and solar radiation.

                          I've entered response[1].lastData.tempf into the ambient_temp field and it returns Last value:(error) Invalid reference to member 1 of null. This is taken right from the Site Sensor recipe where it's working wonderfully so I know I'm probably close. I know the expression logic in MSR is slightly different than that of the Vera Reactor plugin - combined with my almost total befuddlement of proper expressions go isn't helping 🙂

                          Appreciate any guidance!

                          *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.149
                          *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                          *HASS 2025.11.1
                          w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                          MSR: latest-25310-dc2bb580
                          MQTTController: 25139
                          ZWave Controller: 25139

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                            #63

                            should that be response[0].lastData.tempinf

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                              gwp1
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                              I thought the same but, after editing, it returned the same error just with ...member 0 of null instead.

                              *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.149
                              *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                              *HASS 2025.11.1
                              w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                              *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                              MSR: latest-25310-dc2bb580
                              MQTTController: 25139
                              ZWave Controller: 25139

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                              • ElcidE Elcid

                                should that be response[0].lastData.tempinf

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                                @elcid For full transparency, here's how the ruleset is configured (and it's pulling in expected results:

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                                It's only the latter half that's making me stumble.

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                                *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                *HASS 2025.11.1
                                w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                                *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                                MSR: latest-25310-dc2bb580
                                MQTTController: 25139
                                ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                  so to set temp expression should be ambient_api[0].lastData.tempinf

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                                      so to set temp expression should be ambient_api[0].lastData.tempinf

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                                      @elcid Whadya know, that did the trick. Interesting to a noob like me how the original Site Sensor in Vera uses response[1].lastData.tempif and that works just fine.

                                      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.149
                                      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                      *HASS 2025.11.1
                                      w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                                      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
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                                      MQTTController: 25139
                                      ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                        @toggledbits QQ on the OWM built-in: is there a means by which to render it inactive until I need to call it? The way I work my Site Sensors is the one for OWM stays deactivated until the one for Ambient throws null at which point the OWM turns on, carrying the load until Ambient throws real data back out there again (at which time OWM shuts back off.)

                                        This saves wasted calls to the API for OWM.

                                        *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.149
                                        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                        *HASS 2025.11.1
                                        w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                                        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
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                                        MQTTController: 25139
                                        ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                          @toggledbits QQ on the OWM built-in: is there a means by which to render it inactive until I need to call it? The way I work my Site Sensors is the one for OWM stays deactivated until the one for Ambient throws null at which point the OWM turns on, carrying the load until Ambient throws real data back out there again (at which time OWM shuts back off.)

                                          This saves wasted calls to the API for OWM.

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                                          @gwp1 Put a constraint for the OWM rule, something like "ambient == null"?

                                          Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT

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