I need a handful of victims volunteers to help test previews of the next build of Reactor. A long-standing request was for "a simple login mechanism," but in practice, adding user authentication and competent access control turned out to be a pretty big project with a lot of big changes on both server and client sides. It's a bit more than I'm comfortable testing myself and springing out to everyone at once, so I'd like to work with a small group to put it through "sea trials."
Major changes/features include:
User authentication with hashed password storage; User group configuration with application restriction (admin, dashboard, API); Detailed control over API access, with user- and token-based authentication/authorization; Improvements to the HTTPS service; Improvements to UI coordination with the core for Rules and Reactions.If this sounds like something you'd like to help with, drop me a reply here in this thread or privately.
I have a case where I'm trying to send a MQTT message similar to the example below:
Topic: pool/set { "command": 4, "value": 1, "time": 0, "interval": 0 }But I need to set "value" so that it is an integer between 20-30. I thought I could use "dimming" capability here, but there's probably a better way. @therealdb ?
(Using userauth-24120-7745fb8d build in Docker)
There's a filtering capability for entities in reactor.yaml, but I have a case where I don't want to filter an entity altogether, but would like to "throttle" it, as this sensor updates every 1-2 seconds (and therefore unnecessarily takes database space).
Sensor data comes through home assistant, and seems that there's no way to control update interval at that end.
So I'm asking if plugin configuration could support limiting/throttling updates for certain entities?
Good morning,
Hopefully this is a simple request. I believe the title should be self explanatory, but just in case, I'll elaborate.
On the status tab, we all get alerts if a device state has changed (i.e., been removed). This is great, but when I go into the entities tab, I have to either type the name (or a portion thereof) of the device that has been removed, or I need to scroll all the way through my list of devices. This is infrequent, however, yesterday I replaced a failed device in my HAAS environment. It was a Z-Wave switch that is added using the Smart Scan QR code, which normally makes it pretty easy. However, some devices don't get fully added the first time around, so it'll add multiple entries into HAAS until it get's the S2 authentication correct and the device fully included. It did this to me yesterday, and I had to delete the incomplete device from my installation. MSR still saw the entities of that failed/incomplete switch entity, and I was left with 8 alerts and entities that I needed to removed.
It's not a huge problem, but this example was just one switch. If I were to add replace multiple devices at once, this could be a bit more annoying to remove. It would be helpful to be able to filter by removed entities, so I can find them all quickly and delete them. Continuing that train of thought, it would also be useful to have check boxes next to those lines, and perhaps do a select all type of thing so they could be deleted in one mouse click.
@toggledbits I have finally finished up the SSL using Let's Encrypt and am getting this from my local browser:
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I know you said in the docs that using a self-signed could lead to this but this is LE.
Hi @toggledbits,
I don't know if I'm the only one, so I'm reporting here first instead of opening a bug.
Basically, with the latest 2-3 updates of Reactor and MQTTController, after a restart previous statuses are lost (for both Virtual and MQTT entities), until they're restored.
It's particularly annoying for Virtual Entities, because I have to set them all over again (I've coded some defaults at startup if the values are empty, but sometimes these are not the correct values before the update).
Not easy to reproduce, and logs are gone, but the first time I tought it was me hallucinating, the second one didn't bother too much, after the third I realized it's something not coming from me.
the behavior could be seen in this screenshot:
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Any hint is appreciated.
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.
Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only).
Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package:
Contrib MQTT templates for Reactor. Contribute to dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib development by creating an account on GitHub.
Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go.
I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them.
The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression.
Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests 🙂
Good morning,
So Home Assistant decided to change the default weather home format that I've been using for the past year and a half. I had two Global Expressions set up to pull the high and low temp forecast for the day. Now it's pulling null values.
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In the dev tools, it now uses a new service (Weather. get forecasts), plural, where the old Weather.get forecast is depreciated and now longer functions.
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It shows a templow field, and a temperature field, which I presume is the forecast high.
When I head back over to MSR, I'm having a hard time finding those values in the Entities tab.
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wx.asoftime=null wx.ceiling=null wx.ceiling_unit=null wx.cloud_cover=null wx.condition_code=null wx.description="partlycloudy" wx.feels_like=null wx.humidity=57 wx.humidity_unit="%" wx.icon=null wx.location=null wx.precipitation_1hr=null wx.precipitation_24hr=null wx.precipitation_other=null wx.precipitation_type=null wx.precipitation_unit="in" wx.pressure=30 wx.pressure_unit="inHg" wx.temperature=55 wx.temperature_unit="°F" wx.visibility=null wx.visibility_unit="mi" wx.wind_compass=210.3 wx.wind_conditions=null wx.wind_direction="SSW" wx.wind_gust=null wx.wind_speed=6.28 wx.wind_speed_unit="mph" x_hass.domain="weather" x_hass.entity_id="weather.forecast_home" x_hass.services=["weather"] x_hass.state="partlycloudy" x_hass_attr.attribution="Weather forecast from met.no, delivered by the Norwegian Meteorological Institute." x_hass_attr.cloud_coverage=85.9 x_hass_attr.dew_point=40 x_hass_attr.friendly_name="New Windsor Weather" x_hass_attr.humidity=57 x_hass_attr.precipitation_unit="in" x_hass_attr.pressure=30 x_hass_attr.pressure_unit="inHg" x_hass_attr.supported_features=3 x_hass_attr.temperature=55 x_hass_attr.temperature_unit="°F" x_hass_attr.visibility_unit="mi" x_hass_attr.wind_bearing=210.3 x_hass_attr.wind_speed=6.28 x_hass_attr.wind_speed_unit="mph"There is a x_hass_attr.temperature, but that appears to be the current temperature, not the high that I found on the dev tools screenshot.
Any ideas?
Running:
Core
2024.4.3
Supervisor
2024.04.0
Operating System
12.2
Frontend
20240404.2
MSR: latest-24057-e9add9f5
Hey Patrick, I recently have been noticing that MSR has been acting up ie. it's been needing restarts and has been slow. I began trouble shooting by looking at the logs and have noticed the following errors for a lot of entities. I thought maybe a simple reboot of RPi was needed and I kept seeing the same errors in the system logs. I am oddly enough not seeing these same errors in the MSR logs. Where things started getting weird is whenever I rebooted MSR it wouldn't come back online .I would have to restart the RPi then it would come back online. I just restarted MSR again to capture logs and it restarted fine, so I guess its good for now? I think this is more or so a corrupted SD card issue rather a MSR issue but well being troubleshooting from here. The SD card is about 1-2 years old.
Apologies if this post is everywhere, I cannot consistently recreate any oddities that are happening, that's what is leading me to believe my SD is going bad.
PS: If anyone knows how to diagnose a corrupt SD card please chime in.
MSR latest-24057-e9add9f5
Home Assistant 2024.4.3
Raspberry Pi 3b+
This system has been running flawlessly year after year for the time changes twice a year literally since MSR came out so I was caught off-guard when this happened this morning.
Time in MSR browser is EST, time on RPi is local time (DST).
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I've rebooted the RPi I've restarted MSR after double-checking the time on the RPi. Used a completely different browser to eliminate any caching concerns. Double-checked MSR reactor.yamla5f23151-d691-4343-8499-8e77a55528e5-image.png
What am I missing here @toggledbits ?
Hi,
For the standard capabilities MSR sends both a value record and a units record to InfluxDB. The latter I would like not to send as they are not really any use for me and it will reduce the number of records send to my InfluxDB.
Is there a quick way to do this with a filter_entities line like: *>units?
Or do I have to update all capabilities to read like this:
power_sensor:
attributes:
value: true
Cheers Rene
I'm trying to replicate this
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into a MQTT entity where I could set a number with a min and max value.
I can't find a standard capability that fits or any documentation on local MQTT capabilities and the only post on the forum mentioning local MQTT capabilities is this post, is it even possible in current release?
My trial and error work in local_mqtt_capabilities.yaml isn't much to show as it's just a copy of mqtt_capabilities.yaml with changed names and then I got stuck.
Any guidance, examples, documentation, future feature request or denial would be much appreciated, thanks!
Reactor 24057-e9add9f5 bare metal
MQTTController 24050
Hi guys,
I've recently bought a new Govee outdoor permanent lights set, and I love it. WAF is pretty high, and the product is good quality. I hope to never run lights in the front of the house.
This new addition has found me searching for something to control these lights, locally. Govee has officials remote and LAN APIs and Home Assistant has it supported, but some undocumented stuff that's integrated into an Homebridge plugin that seems very promising. Without this plugin, my playlist is orchestrated via the cloud and that makes zero sense.
In the past I got some inspiration from plugins running on other platforms and Homebridge seems one of the most active. I could map its devices via HomeKit-local on HA, but I've decommissioned Homebridge years ago when we settled to Alexa (and I want to stay simple), so I had an idea: why get inspiration and rewrite things, when you could write an Homebridge adapter that could load any Homebridge plugin and run them natively under Reactor (MSR)?
I'm not sure if that's viable or made any sense, so I'm posting here to get feedback, encouragement and your thoughts. Anyone could be potentially interested in such a thing?
Hi- looking for a hint in where to start. My goal is to set a PIN code in a zwave kwikset lock triggered in a rule.
The device isn’t exposing methods to help. The x-hass.call-service looks promising, but what would the service name be?
Plan b would be send the zwave controller a config command- I don’t see any way to explicitly send a command through JS Zwave in my environment.
Running reactor bare metal. JS Zwave is running as an add on inside HASS OS.
Any tips are appreciated.
Hey crew, I'm trying to use MSR to control the RGB values of a Z-Wave bulb in Home Assistant.
Problem I'm running into - I would like to use 'rgb_color.set' to control this, but it doesn't work, instead it always passes the values '255,255,255' to HA no matter what values I enter within MSR.
More notes and examples below - I'm wondering if this is a formatting issue that I'm missing? Thanks for any help!
NOTES FROM TROUBLESHOOTING:
'rgb_color.set_rgb' works successfully, which seems strange. You'd think they would both be affected I've tried a couple different formats, like adding quotes, adding/removing spaces between the RGB values, nothing has fixed it.EXAMPLES:
When I use 'rgb_color.set_rgb', the values successfully carry over to Home Assistant:
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But when I use 'rgb_color.set', the values DO NOT successfully carry over to Home Assistant:
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DETAILS:
Bulb is LZW42 by Inovelli MSR version: stable-23242-5ee8e1d4HA DETAILS
Core 2024.2.5 Supervisor 2024.02.1 Operating System 12.0Hi,
I’m running MSR in a docker container on my Synology Nas. The container is automatically updated using watchtower weekly.
It was working. Now, after the update, Reactor webpage is able to load, and all indications on the webpage suggests that it is working fine. However, the updated statuses from Home Assistant and Vera are not being detected.
The container logs show the following error
Reactor stable-23344-5aad7754 app 23344 configuration from /var/reactor/config NODE_PATH /opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.516Z <app:null> Reactor build stable-23344-5aad7754 starting on v16.15.1 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.517Z <app:null> Process ID 1 user/group 0/0; docker; platform linux/x64 #69057 SMP Fri Jan 12 17:02:28 CST 2024; locale (undefined) [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.517Z <app:null> Basedir /opt/reactor; data in /var/reactor/storage [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.517Z <app:null> NODE_PATH=/opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.696Z <Structure:null> Module Structure v23172 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.698Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v23331 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.780Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v22300 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.790Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v22283 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.794Z <Entity:null> Module Entity v22353 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.866Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v23069 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.030Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v22293 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.031Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v22146 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.066Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v23211 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.581Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v23093 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.595Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v22283 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.600Z <Rule:null> Module Rule v23107 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.614Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v22324 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.617Z <Engine:null> Module Engine v23339 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.635Z <httpapi:null> Module httpapi v23058 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.680Z <wsapi:null> Module wsapi v23172 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.789Z <TaskQueue:null> Module TaskQueue 21351 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.790Z <VeraController:null> Module VeraController v23109 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.971Z <HassController:null> Module HassController v23344 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:51.716Z <DynamicGroupController:null> Module DynamicGroupController v22313 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:52.253Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v23331 i18n: missing en-US language string: The version of nodejs you are using ({0}) is now end-of-life, and so is deprecated for use with Reactor. Please upgrade nodejs to {2}.{3} or higher as soon as possible; the current LTS version is recommended. Releases of Reactor produced after {1} will not run under this version of nodejs at all. [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:52.256Z <Controller:CRIT> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input [-] SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:464:51 at Array.forEach (<anonymous>) at SystemController._restoreEntities (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:458:36) at new Controller (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:45:42) at new SystemController (/opt/reactor/server/lib/SystemController.js:29:9) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:101:37 Trace: The version of nodejs you are using ({0}) is now end-of-life, and so is deprecated for use with Reactor. Please upgrade nodejs to {2}.{3} or higher as soon as possible; the current LTS version is recommended. Releases of Reactor produced after {1} will not run under this version of nodejs at all. at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:468:37) at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:126:25) at /opt/reactor/app.js:381:140 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:59.313Z <app:CRIT> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input [-] SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:114:54) at DelayWriteCacheStrategy.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/DelayWriteCacheStrategy.js:87:50) at Container.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:69:67) at Function.getInstance (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Data.js:37:179) at Rule.getRuleStates (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:507:100) at Rule.getConditionState (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:538:47) at new Rule (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:378:47) at Function.getInstance (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:387:36) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Engine.js:263:53 i18n: missing en-US language string: HomeAssistant on {0:q} may be an unsupported version. The reported version ({1}) has not been certified/tested with this version of Reactor and may cause errors. You must either modify your HomeAssistant install, or see if an update to Reactor has been made available. Trace: HomeAssistant on {0:q} may be an unsupported version. The reported version ({1}) has not been certified/tested with this version of Reactor and may cause errors. You must either modify your HomeAssistant install, or see if an update to Reactor has been made available. at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:468:37) at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:126:25) at HassController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:197:36) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/HassController.js:1117:370 at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)I’ve tried using “latest-amd64” and it does not work either. The logs show similar json input error.
Reactor latest-24057-e9add9f5 app 24052 configuration from /var/reactor/config NODE_PATH /opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.466Z <app:null> Reactor build latest-24057-e9add9f5 starting on v20.10.0 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.522Z <app:null> Process ID 1 user/group 0/0; docker; platform linux/x64 #69057 SMP Fri Jan 12 17:02:28 CST 2024; locale (undefined) [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.522Z <app:null> Basedir /opt/reactor; data in /var/reactor/storage [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.522Z <app:null> NODE_PATH=/opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.667Z <Structure:null> Module Structure v23172 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.673Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v23331 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.780Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v22300 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.787Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v22283 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.791Z <Entity:null> Module Entity v22353 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.796Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v23069 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.811Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v22293 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.811Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v22146 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.821Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v23211 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.890Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v23093 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.958Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v22283 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.027Z <Rule:null> Module Rule v24057 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.033Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v22324 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.036Z <Engine:null> Module Engine v24023 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.042Z <httpapi:null> Module httpapi v24057 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.216Z <wsapi:null> Module wsapi v24057 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.296Z <TaskQueue:null> Module TaskQueue 21351 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.297Z <VeraController:null> Module VeraController v24050 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.365Z <HassController:null> Module HassController v24048 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.659Z <DynamicGroupController:null> Module DynamicGroupController v22313 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.668Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v23331 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.673Z <Controller:CRIT> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input [-] SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:464:51 at Array.forEach (<anonymous>) at SystemController._restoreEntities (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:458:36) at new Controller (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:45:43) at new SystemController (/opt/reactor/server/lib/SystemController.js:237:9) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:101:37 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:38.845Z <app:CRIT> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input [-] SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:51:45) at DelayWriteCacheStrategy.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/DelayWriteCacheStrategy.js:89:49) at Container.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:69:65) at Data.getInstance (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Data.js:45:179) at Rule.getRuleStates (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:515:101) at Rule.getConditionState (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:546:47) at new Rule (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:371:47) at Rule.getInstance (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:380:36) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Engine.js:828:53 i18n: missing en-US language string: HomeAssistant on {0:q} may be an unsupported version. The reported version ({1}) has not been certified/tested with this version of Reactor and may cause errors. You must either modify your HomeAssistant install, or see if an update to Reactor has been made available. Trace: HomeAssistant on {0:q} may be an unsupported version. The reported version ({1}) has not been certified/tested with this version of Reactor and may cause errors. You must either modify your HomeAssistant install, or see if an update to Reactor has been made available. at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:614:37) at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:128:25) at HassController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:197:36) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/HassController.js:1133:374 at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)How do I fix this?
Noticed right away last night at closing time that the open/close had become inverted with the update to v23326.
It wasn't an awful bit of lift to change all Reactions to reflect the change but it was jarring initially when everything flipped.
Are there release notes on that version, @toggledbits ?
[SOLVED] Rethinking HVAC moving from Reactor (Vera) to MSR
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In my Vera config I have two SiteSensors (one for Ambient Wx, one for OpenWxMap) that point to two unique Reactor devices for controlling HVAC in my home. This is done for redundancy - if the Ambient API drops it returns zero data which then triggers a standalone Master API Reactor device to flip on the OWM SiteSensor and corresponding HVAC Reactor device to continue controlling the house conditions.
Once the Ambient API returns to available the Master API Reactor device flips back to the Ambient SiteSensor and corresponding HVAC Reactor device, turning OFF the SiteSensor for OWM to save on API calls.
I've been able to duplicate one half of this, including the Master API role, in MSR. But... here's the tricky part... I can't turn "off" the MSR Rule Sets for the OWM version. As such, HVAC is sent conflicting data and doesn't know what to do.
Before I go alls deep into explaining how all of this currently works, am I missing something somewhere that would allow me to trigger the on/off of MSR Rule Sets?
Solved here: https://smarthome.community/post/10329
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The simplest possible suggestion I can come up with involves creating a go/no-go variable within each Rule you'd like to control in that fashion. By creating an empty expression (let's call it "Go") in Rule A, for example, you could add a Constraint in Rule A:
[Expression Value] [ Go ] == 1
You could then, in Rule B, use a
[Set Variable] [ Go ] = 1
(yes, MSR rules can now see each other's settable variables!) when you want Rule A active, and= 0
when you want Rule A deactivated.Did I come close to answering your question?
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Give it time, as there is a shallow-but-nonzero learning curve moving from Reactor over to MSR. Let's keep this conversation going until you have things working according to plan. Don't hesitate to post screenshots of your work for us to review.
My suggestion is to start with "Test Rules" that you build for no particular purpose (certainly not for daily driving of Vera devices!), just to kick the tires with. This is a good way to get a grasp of how Expressions work in particular. I probably create and destroy 3-4 throwaway Test Rules every day, just workshopping different approaches to problems similar to yours.
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Oh I have made very liberal use of Test rules, believe me lol It's been very helpful. I'll try to pull together some screenshots here shortly. As to Reactor>MSR, yes, there's a slight curve. I've been able to pare down my Reactor device designs considerably using MSR.
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Continuing, there were two SiteSensors in Vera - I've moved the Ambient API one to MSR as noted above with the high-level.
In Vera, it's easy to turn on and off the SiteSensor for OpenWxMap to reduce API calls based on query results from the Ambient API SiteSensor. There's a ruleset moved into MSR that drives the failover/back.
In MSR, however, I cannot turn off the OWM ruleset when Ambient API is driving. The result becomes two sets of data being sent to the t-stats which annoys them.
Currently, I'm using the SiteSensor for OWM in Vera and the ruleset in MSR for Master failover/back and driving Ambient data to the t-stats.
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Remember, it's entirely plausible to introduce an expressionless (empty) "Go" variable within any Rule, such that the Rule A "runs" (acts Enabled) with "Go" set to "1", and is barred from running (acting Disabled) with it set to "0".
To make this setup work, simply have your other Rule B's Set Reaction do a [ Set Expression ] [ = ] [ 0 ] on Rule A's variable "Go", with a [ Set Expression ] [ = ] [ 1 ] in its Reset Reaction. Create a corresponding Trigger condition in Rule A that tests [ Expression Value ] [ == ] [ 1 ], and you should be good to go.
Does that make sense? Hope it helps!
NOTE: You can also use
true
/false
values forGo
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For instance, I heard you say, "I cannot turn off the OWM ruleset (in MSR) when Ambient API is driving". Couldn't its governing Rule just have an extra Constraint condition like:
[ Entity Attribute ] [ SiteSensor_156 ] [ x_vera_device.failed ] [ isTRUE ]
so that it refrains from execution while Ambient is in good health?
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Fair enough on the explanation - I prob made that typical error of not providing the details that I "just know" in my head.
Original Vera setup: two SiteSensors, one for Ambient API, one for OWM API. Ambient is hyper-local (my wx station) and is the daily driver. To save API calls against OWM, the SiteSensor there is set to
disabled
status normally.If Ambient API call returns zero results, the Master API ruleset sees the failure, changes OWM API SiteSensor to
enabled
. As the query results from Ambient are blank, it is left inenabled
status - and there's only one set of data points going to the t-stats.Once Ambient API call returns regular results again, the Master API ruleset sees the actual data and changes OWM API SiteSensor to
disabled
again and life is, once again, good for all.Can you define for me "refrains from execution"... are you saying it would not send anything to the t-stats or query the API (or both)?
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From all I see (I just stopped short of saying it explicitly earlier), you're asking, "How can I temporarily stop MSR from sending API requests to OWM?" I don't see an immediate way to set that mechanism's
sys_system.state=
tofalse
, although that was my initial thought.I think we'll have to ask @toggledbits to advise on best practices here.
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@librasun I poked at this a bit with what I thought you were getting at. The configuration now (which is a carry-over from Vera Reactor and could prob use some trimming) has the top three rulesets (shown earlier) use to arm the system, ie set the parameters for what qualifies as "I should heat now" or "I should cool now" - and then the five rulesets below are the actual action rules.
For instance, if the system "qualifies" for (or is armed) for Cooling then only the two rulesets for Cooling are actionable. Same applies for Heating.
Taking what you said earlier, I added a condition to each of the action rulesets as shown in this example:
I was missing the reality of the action rulesets still running even though none of the qualifiers/armers were, well, armed. The action rulesets were using the last known datapoints stored in the armers - and that's where things were going amiss.
By adding the extra condition to each action ruleset it seems to have quieted - this may be the solution (not pretty, but a solution.)
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@librasun Thanks, and totally agree.
My goal is always to keep things as uncomplicated as possible as changes or tweaks later get crazy if you have to edit in multiple places. You ALWAYS miss something somewhere and lose countless hours trying to troubleshoot.
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As I'm marking this as [SOLVED] I thought I'd update on how this all ended up playing out:
Creation of two API rulesets, one for Ambient, one for OWM, that dump their data into
Global Expressions
. At issue was how to disable OWM to prevent needless API calls - I ended up doing the maths and making adjustments that this isn't an issue any longer. As such, one APIruleset
for each dumping to clearly labeledGlobal Expressions
. Yes, they both call out to their respective APIs but the volume is low enough not to trigger either for overuse.The only gotcha here is to make sure that you include in the rulesets for the secondary (OWM) a
Trigger
that checks for the primary API to be returningnull
so you don't have both flavors of rulesets competing for Honeywell's API (which is notoriously cranky) as you set the t-stats. -