Thanks again for the recent release. One thing I wanted to ask about integrations and their 'loaded' condition:
Is there something similar that applies to the entire controller? So if I have (for example) a helper in HA that is used to trigger an automation in MSR, is it possible to effectively exclude it until MSR is 'happy' that HA is stable and its values can be trusted?
This, actually goes back to the issue I had. I've got a use case where a 30 second delay from triggering is a bit of a PITA (sustained for...) and was just wondering if there's a way of knowing that 'native' HA functions are working correctly.
Probably asking wrong, or it's hideously obvious, but...
TIA
C
Hi. First off this is an unsupported version of HS 2026.5.2 so happy to be told it's that.
Currently running latest-26130-3d2a489a on a Debian Buster bare metal VM.
I've been working on moving away from OpenLuup completely and up until now have been using some virtual switches t manage things like 'Is there anyone home'
I have a binary sensor in HA that provides the same thing
binary_sensor.someone_home which appears in MSR as
hass>binary_sensor_someone_home
HA shows on or off. MSR shows true or false
All fine. The odd thing happened after an update of HA and a restart.
From HA
13:07:04 it turned off
13:07:11 it turned on
However that does not appear to have been reflected in MSR which turned all the heating and so on off as it is supposed to do, and I got all my notifications as I should.
Here's a huge log section (sorry) as I wanted to show how MSR identifies that HA is up and running at 12:07:08 (Zulu) but triggers the 'There's no one here' at 12:07:17 some 6 seconds after HA updated to on.
Checking in the interface MSR said the status was 'False' while HA stated 'On'
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catman@openluup:~/reactor/storage/rules$ exit
logout
Connection to 192.168.70.249 closed.
catman@ChrisMBP2021 ~ % ./NotVera
** WARNING: connection is not using a post-quantum key exchange algorithm.
** This session may be vulnerable to "store now, decrypt later" attacks.
** The server may need to be upgraded. See https://openssh.com/pq.html
Linux openluup 4.19.0-20-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.235-1 (2022-03-17) x86_64
The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
Last login: Mon May 18 12:13:38 2026 from 192.168.70.69
cdcatman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/lo
locales/ logs/
catman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/logs/
catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ ls
console.log hass_config.json hass_services-2025-11-1.json hass_services-2026-1-0.json hass_services-2026-5-2.json reactor.log reactor.log.4 vera-user_data-initial.json
device_32 hass_device_registry.json hass_services-2025-11-2.json hass_services-2026-1-1.json hass_services.json reactor.log.1 reactor.log.5
e hass_entity_registry.json hass_services-2025-11-3.json hass_services-2026-4-2.json hass_sources.json reactor.log.2 unhandled.json
hass_area_registry.json hass_integrations.json hass_services-2025-7-2.json hass_services-2026-4-4.json hass_states.json reactor.log.3 vera-status-initial.json
catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log
catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ tail reactor.log
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:20:08.296Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:03.391Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.729Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.734Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"]
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:03.501Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.614Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.624Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"]
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:03.590Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.503Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.506Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"]
catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.946Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9yjy9z/trig
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.947Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET'
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.961Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9ylxw3/trig
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.962Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET'
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.995Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l680lif2:R)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.996Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "House Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l5sdqazh:R)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET>" (rule-ml9y0xqo:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET>" (rule-ml9yjy9z:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.998Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET>" (rule-ml9ylxw3:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with { } by reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R) step 1
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with { }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass service homeassistant.turn_off target data is { } (empty), assuming default entity target
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { }, "domain": "homeassistant", "service": "turn_off", "target": { "entity_id": "input_boolean.heating_mode" } }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.017Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction House Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l5sdqazh:R)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.018Z <Engine:INFO> House Mode is Home<RESET> all actions completed.
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.074Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) step 1
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.077Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.090Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.091Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) step 1
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) step 1
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.094Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.111Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.113Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-l5sdqazh reaction rule-l5sdqazh:R completed
This is hardly the end of the world as HA restarting is rare and I simply hit refresh on the entity in MSR but is this some kind of race condition or something that needs addressing?
Hoping I've given enough data to make it sensible
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.
Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions;
Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating;
Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later;
Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase;
Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions;
Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases);
Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
I have a couple of rules that has group reactions with empty conditions. I notice, in particular on one that's called every 5 secs, that it was not working. I added an empty comment as condition and it started working again.
I don't know if saving was enough to "reset" it, but I'm reporting anyway. No errors in the logs, but the MQTT message was not published, so I had an easy path to check the rule.
I have others like these, but not easy to test. @toggledbits maybe some stuck status data? (I restarted a couple of times after the last update). Thanks.
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future.
In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level.
Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way.
I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption.
A few other things to know:
If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc.
Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy).
The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON.
You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach).
The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case.
This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change.
This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
Hi,
I'm on Docker/NAs (latest-26011-c621bbc7) with Zwave js ui (last version).
I have set the 'Location' for each device in the Z-Wave JS UI dashboard, I cannot find this information among the Entity Attributes in the Reactor. I tried and the result is an empty array []. It seems the 'Location' metadata from Z-Wave JS is not being mapped to a standard attribute in Reactor. Location is equale to Rooms for me. When comparing this to the Vera or Ezlo Controller, Reactor automatically creates Room Icons also in the Reactor Dashboard and places the various devices under those room categories.
This is a very convenient way to keep the dashboard organized and quickly find lights to turn off with a click (especially when something isn't switched off as expected for me:) ).
Is there a way to map the Z-Wave JS UI 'Location' attribute and a dashboard organization, just like it does with Vera/Ezlo?
Thanks in advance for all the great tips you've shared
I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules.
I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds).
Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off?
With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches.
Thanks
Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7
VirtualEntityController v25356
Synology Docker
I've had similar problems before, but now this issue has resurfaced. Using build 26011 on Docker.
As I copied one old rule as a "template" for a similar new rule, where I have multiple conditions using changes operator (from any to any, and with delay reset of 900), these conditions do not detect change in attributes. Even if I manually reset the rule, reset delay timers do not restart.
If I do a new rule from scratch, and do not copy/import anything old, the same conditions work properly. Also, if I modify copied rule's conditions (put a random number to "from" & "to" fields), then save, and after that remove those modifications, rule begins to function normally. Just editing e.g. delay reset value does not do any good in this context.
@toggledbits, I can DM logs & related rule files to you, if you just send me instructions.
Home Remote dashboard app and MSR HTTP API
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Okay, roger that, and thanks. It's great that HR (I think I called it HA for some odd reason earlier, sorry) and Vera "talk" that way. I'm now recalling that the lengthy tutorial I watched of his -- where the user had to essentially "code" all the feedback from actual devices -- involved a WiFi-connected amplifier. Unlike Vera, that device didn't "push" updates to HR in real time, so it had to be polled on every change.
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Okay, roger that, and thanks. It's great that HR (I think I called it HA for some odd reason earlier, sorry) and Vera "talk" that way. I'm now recalling that the lengthy tutorial I watched of his -- where the user had to essentially "code" all the feedback from actual devices -- involved a WiFi-connected amplifier. Unlike Vera, that device didn't "push" updates to HR in real time, so it had to be polled on every change.
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I am using Group pages in HR rather than building my own custom pages from a blank slate.
Group pages are auto generated for you. You just create a Windows Explorer folder like structure in the designer application, for your desired menu structure / layout and add Vera devices and scenes to them from the list it already imported.
Doing it that way I haven't needed to manually code anything for device Status feedback it just happens.
Have a look at my HR thread on the Vera forum, I covered the basic concept of using Group pages in HR.
Creating your own custom pages looks much more involved like what @Tarkus has done and his project looks amazing but beyond my skills I think.
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This is how my dashboard looks
CW's Version 1.0 dashboard based on "Groups"
Hi Here is my first attempt at an Imperihome app dashboard replacement using Home Remote, I still have some small glitches and issues, but overall its finished ish… For reference here was my Imperihome dashboard. I have used the Groups pages, as that seemed like the quicker way to get up and...
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Thanks, guys, this has me excited to try something with HR (or, later MSR's own Dashboard) which completely sidesteps Vera. Namely, creating "virtual devices" that live entirely on MSR (probably as Expressions at first, but conceivably as fully-blown Rules standing in place of virtual devices).
I'd love to have a Group page in Home Remote, where each square represents a corresponding entity on MSR. As @cw-kid proposes above, the back-and-forth could be wired up entirely via HTTP requests.
(My next question was going to be, "Does anyone have HR running in a Docker container?" I recall it runs on various platforms.)
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Home Remote the designer application is Windows only. This is the application used to create your project.
The front end dashboard apps are Android, iOS and Windows.
Once you have created your project file you can publish it. I publish my project file to my internal ftp server then every mobile device phones and tablets look at that location for any new project file updates.
So the mobile apps just auto update to the latest version of my project when the app is launched on that device.
So no more running round to each mobile device to update it like with Imperihome.
No need for Docker.
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Thanks, guys, this has me excited to try something with HR (or, later MSR's own Dashboard) which completely sidesteps Vera. Namely, creating "virtual devices" that live entirely on MSR (probably as Expressions at first, but conceivably as fully-blown Rules standing in place of virtual devices).
I'd love to have a Group page in Home Remote, where each square represents a corresponding entity on MSR. As @cw-kid proposes above, the back-and-forth could be wired up entirely via HTTP requests.
(My next question was going to be, "Does anyone have HR running in a Docker container?" I recall it runs on various platforms.)
@librasun said in Home Remote dashboard app and MSR HTTP API:
Namely, creating "virtual devices" that live entirely on MSR (probably as Expressions at first, but conceivably as fully-blown Rules standing in place of virtual devices).
Your the expressions expert, I wouldn't know where to start!
But virtual devices on MSR could be a good idea.
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Thanks, guys, this has me excited to try something with HR (or, later MSR's own Dashboard) which completely sidesteps Vera. Namely, creating "virtual devices" that live entirely on MSR (probably as Expressions at first, but conceivably as fully-blown Rules standing in place of virtual devices).
I'd love to have a Group page in Home Remote, where each square represents a corresponding entity on MSR. As @cw-kid proposes above, the back-and-forth could be wired up entirely via HTTP requests.
(My next question was going to be, "Does anyone have HR running in a Docker container?" I recall it runs on various platforms.)
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Awesome, will check it out! Meanwhile, here's @toggledbits ' official stance on "Virtual Devices on MSR".
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@librasun here is a demo I put together on Home Remote utilizing my personal project. I also use MSR for a majority of the conditional logic. The demo runs about 9 minutes.
@tarkus very nice!
Yep, I will be looking into this for sure.
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