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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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therealdbT
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As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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Integrate UPS with MSR

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  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

    You are not searching correctly in the Entities list. Your UPS name does not have "nut" in it. Rather than seaching for entities containing the word "nut", clear all fields and select your NUTController instance in the controller filter field.

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    wmarcolin
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    #16

    @toggledbits

    Okay, job done, UPS > NUT > MSR > HE 😁

    b1f2e9c1-c0ca-4a0d-9311-6536575369e9-image.png

    The only thing that bothers me is that the UPS drive stops working without explanation, and I had to put a routine in crontab for it to restart every 10 minutes, I find this horrible but it was the only solution from everything I read, and I am not the only one to do it.

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      toggledbits
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      #17

      Does the NUTController's system entity show that the connection is down when that happens? If so, and NUT is running on the same host as MSR, it's probably pretty easy to just write a rule that restarts the NUT service when the controller has been marked down for X minutes (sustained for).

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      • toggledbitsT toggledbits

        Does the NUTController's system entity show that the connection is down when that happens? If so, and NUT is running on the same host as MSR, it's probably pretty easy to just write a rule that restarts the NUT service when the controller has been marked down for X minutes (sustained for).

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        wmarcolin
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        #18

        @toggledbits

        The NUT and MSR are in the same HW, but NUT is in a Linux VM, and MSR I run in Windows.

        I was able to build a rule in MSR that analyzes 3 attributes of NUT, that if they stay without changing the content in 5 minutes gives me an alert of failure.

        Strange, when I look at the service, it is all active, what crashes is the UPS driver, so I have to run

        upsdrvctl stop
        upsdrvctl start
        

        Now, is it possible via Windows MSR to trigger a command in the Linux VM to do this restart? It would avoid having to crontab, only reboot in real failure conditions, and not every 10 minutes.

        Thanks.

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          Andr
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          #19

          I rescued an Eaton Ellipse ups from work that come back to life with fresh batteries.👍

          Thought it would be easy to get some kind of system status or notification (from Windows) that somehow could be picked up in Reactor or at least in HA. Oh my... what a horror 😱

          After a long time following this guide I got NUT up and running on Windows @wmarcolin (Another VM is not a resonable option here)
          Monitor a UPS attached to a Windows machine

          Then I added the HA integration just to se if it worked and it actually did 😂

          So now I want over the finish line, and install NUTController in Reactor.
          It looked easy, but still, no luck.
          This got me thinking on another possible solution. Reactor already monitors "System Memory" "Uptime" and so on, so maybe it also could monitor Powersource, Battery Level, Charging State? Then let Reactor react with its magic @toggledbits ?
          For a Windows user that seems a lot easier and efficient as Windows just handle my UPS as the battery it actually is so it looked like "a laptop".

          Anyway, here is were I got stuck. No clue what more to try since the Nutserver is up and running and speaks with HA.
          reactor.log gives me two errors:

          [latest-23196]2023-07-28T19:34:28.862Z <Structure:CRIT> TypeError: self.nut.setUsername is not a function [-]
          TypeError: self.nut.setUsername is not a function
              at NUTController.start_client (c:\reactor\ext\NUTController\NUTController.js:221:22)
              at NUTController.start (c:\reactor\ext\NUTController\NUTController.js:44:14)
              at Structure.start (c:\reactor\server\lib\Structure.js:362:56)
          [latest-23196]2023-07-28T19:34:28.863Z <NUTController:CRIT> TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'end') [-]
          TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'end')
              at Nut.close (c:\reactor\ext\NUTController\node_modules\node-nut\node-nut.js:65:15)
              at NUTController.stop (c:\reactor\ext\NUTController\NUTController.js:53:26)
              at c:\reactor\server\lib\Structure.js:366:48
          [latest-23196]2023-07-28T19:34:28.864Z <Controller:NOTICE> NUTController#nut stopping
          

          NUTController.js:221:22 looks like this
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          NUTController.js:44:14
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          Structure.js:362:56
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          node-nut.js:65:15
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          NUTController.js:53:26
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          Structure.js:366:48
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            toggledbits
            wrote on last edited by toggledbits
            #20

            Go into the extension directory (ext/NutController) and run npm list and post the output here.

            Also you need to show your NutController config.

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            • toggledbitsT toggledbits

              Go into the extension directory (ext/NutController) and run npm list and post the output here.

              Also you need to show your NutController config.

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              Andr
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              #21

              @toggledbits
              So, back from vacation so time to take another shot at this 🙂

              npm list:

              C:\reactor\ext\NUTController>npm list
              npm WARN config global `--global`, `--local` are deprecated. Use `--location=global` instead.
              reactor-nutcontroller@0.1.22305 C:\reactor\ext\NUTController
              `-- node-nut@1.0.3
              

              NutController config

              
                - id: nut
                  implementation: NUTController
                  enabled: true
                  #name: Eddie UPS NUTController
                  config:
                    server: 22.33.44.11        # modify the IP address as needed
                    port: 3493              # optional, default shown
                    username: "***"      # optional, no user auth if not set
                    password: "***"  # optional, must be specified if username is used
              
              
              
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                #22

                Try commenting out the username from config. Authentication isn't needed for the queries being used.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                  Try commenting out the username from config. Authentication isn't needed for the queries being used.

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                  #23

                  @toggledbits
                  Yep, that did it 😊
                  Thanks once again @toggledbits

                  Any thougts about getting more System Info into MSR by the way?
                  This got me thinking on another possible solution. Reactor already monitors "System Memory" "Uptime" and so on, so maybe it also could monitor Powersource, Battery Level, Charging State? Then let Reactor react with its magic

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                    #24

                    Hmmm... are you (mis)understanding the way NUTController publishes its data? It publishes UPS info on an entity for each UPS that NUT reports. Here, for example, is the data for a test "dummy" UPS that one can configure in NUT:

                    battery_maintenance.charging=false
                    battery_maintenance.rechargeable=true
                    battery_maintenance.replace=true
                    battery_power.level=0.2
                    battery_power.since=1692217178132
                    power_source.source="battery"
                    x_nut_ups.battery_charge="20"
                    x_nut_ups.battery_charger.status="discharging"
                    x_nut_ups.battery_date.maintenance="05/01/2022"
                    x_nut_ups.device_mfr="Dummy Manufacturer"
                    x_nut_ups.device_model="Dummy UPS"
                    x_nut_ups.device_type="ups"
                    x_nut_ups.driver_name="dummy-ups"
                    x_nut_ups.driver_parameter.mode="dummy"
                    x_nut_ups.driver_parameter.pollinterval="2"
                    x_nut_ups.driver_parameter.port="/etc/nut/dummy.seq"
                    x_nut_ups.driver_parameter.synchronous="no"
                    x_nut_ups.driver_version="2.7.4"
                    x_nut_ups.driver_version.internal="0.14"
                    x_nut_ups.input_voltage=1580
                    x_nut_ups.ups_mfr="Dummy Manufacturer"
                    x_nut_ups.ups_model="Dummy UPS"
                    x_nut_ups.ups_status="OB LB"
                    

                    So you can see it's reporting battery state, power level, current power source, etc.

                    Or are you asking for something else and I'm not getting it?

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                      Hmmm... are you (mis)understanding the way NUTController publishes its data? It publishes UPS info on an entity for each UPS that NUT reports. Here, for example, is the data for a test "dummy" UPS that one can configure in NUT:

                      battery_maintenance.charging=false
                      battery_maintenance.rechargeable=true
                      battery_maintenance.replace=true
                      battery_power.level=0.2
                      battery_power.since=1692217178132
                      power_source.source="battery"
                      x_nut_ups.battery_charge="20"
                      x_nut_ups.battery_charger.status="discharging"
                      x_nut_ups.battery_date.maintenance="05/01/2022"
                      x_nut_ups.device_mfr="Dummy Manufacturer"
                      x_nut_ups.device_model="Dummy UPS"
                      x_nut_ups.device_type="ups"
                      x_nut_ups.driver_name="dummy-ups"
                      x_nut_ups.driver_parameter.mode="dummy"
                      x_nut_ups.driver_parameter.pollinterval="2"
                      x_nut_ups.driver_parameter.port="/etc/nut/dummy.seq"
                      x_nut_ups.driver_parameter.synchronous="no"
                      x_nut_ups.driver_version="2.7.4"
                      x_nut_ups.driver_version.internal="0.14"
                      x_nut_ups.input_voltage=1580
                      x_nut_ups.ups_mfr="Dummy Manufacturer"
                      x_nut_ups.ups_model="Dummy UPS"
                      x_nut_ups.ups_status="OB LB"
                      

                      So you can see it's reporting battery state, power level, current power source, etc.

                      Or are you asking for something else and I'm not getting it?

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                      wrote on last edited by Andr
                      #25

                      @toggledbits
                      No, I get how NutController works. So far at least...

                      But when I got stuck several times trying to set up NUT I almost gave up. At the same time I remembered seeing some System Info in MSR and if could find data about battery level, charging and so on I would not even need the NUT Installation.
                      And that would be a big bonus for me as I realize that when my NUT installation fails one day it would take me long time to figure it out and also one less process/config to handle.

                      And from System Info I assume we could get info about temperatures, storage levels, fan speeds and so on?
                      This could be used to send warning notifications from MSR.

                      So yes, I was asking something else that come up in my head when I tried to find another way than using NUT. 🙂

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