Hello,
I have a kitchen light that can be controlled by two switches, using either to turn it off or on. I have been slowly changing things over to be a smart home but this is the first switch I am attempting to install.
I am in a double wide modular home (mobile) that was built in 1994.
At first I thought I would need a 3 way switch but when taking the normal switches apart I realized that was incorrect because the wiring on my switches are different than anything I could find online.
For one a 3 way smart switch requires 5 wires and there are only 2 wires going into the primary switch with 3 wires going into the secondary switch from the primary switch (at least I think the 3 wires connect the two switches together). Images will be attached of the wiring.
There are two wires (one black and one white) going into the first switch and 3 wires (black, white, and red) going out of that and into the second switch (I assume). The odd thing is the red wire going to the second switch is connected to the white wire going into the first switch and the white wire going into the second switch seems to be a bridge wire or a traveler wire. Not exactly sure. You will see what I mean in the images.
I need to know what kind of smart switch I can use in this set up with one remaining a normal switch.
Note that for some reason the images got switched around when uploading them. The image with 2 wires on one side and 3 on the other is what I think is the primary and the image with just 3 wires is the secondary.
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I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically.
That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button.
Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF.
The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule.
Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
Use case:
When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled.
To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work.
Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch.
In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR.
Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR.
If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR.
Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
Probably a really dumb question.
Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great.
Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly.
Any thoughts?
Apologies if the ask is not clear/
TIA
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As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well.
As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.
Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions;
Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating;
Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later;
Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase;
Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions;
Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases);
Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page.
Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones.
Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025)
What have I done?!
Will check other browsers on my M1.
UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour.
I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of.
Thanks.
Hi Smart Home Community.
I have used a Sonos inline WiFi switch to make one of my light fittings smart, but it requires a hard reset for WiFi changes, plus it isn't zigbee compatible, which means I can't use the Hue app to control it with the rest of the lights.
To that end I bought a Samotech SM308-S as it is recommended as the better than the Sonos equivalent.
I am however not exactly sure how to wire it in.
The manual is available here
Can anyone help me by clarifying which ports I need to use, and whether I should be using the live or switched live line for live etc.
I will be keeping using standard switches for a while, although hope to upgrade to tap dials once I have all the fittings upgraded.
Thanks
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