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Upgrade Issues
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openLuup console disappeared - 500 - Internal Server Error
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Love openLuup - it just keeps working perfectly. I started looking at trying to add a gen4 Shelly device to the Shelly plugin via L_ShellyBridge.lua. The plugin is a little uncooked (no rudeness intended), so a bit of a rabbit hole for me. All of a sudden no console pages available in either Firefox or Chrome. AltUI works perfectly and all the log files indicate no errors. openLuup still running everything works as it should - just no console pages. I possibly screwed something up but any recently changes files show no problems. The original/ backup of L_ShellyBridge.lua was reinstated but still no console. Bit stumped on this one. Not sure how to debug. Any ideas?
Plugins
Logon screen timeout
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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Upgrade advice - upgrade from aarch64 to ARM64 image
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I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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Alexa for MSR, any interest?
MikeReadingtonM
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Ezlo Paid Subscription for Vera Cloud Services
toggledbitsT
It appears that Ezlo is going to new levels of paid subscription for cloud services supporting Vera hubs. I have to congratulate them. It will soon be 8 years since Ezlo acquired Vera, and despite their purported financial and "intellectual" capital, they have to date not produced a viable full replacement for Vera. Now they are going to charge extra for services for a platform that they stopped updating years ago. If you know anyone who hasn't yet fully moved on from Captain Ahab's White Whale Chase, please remind them that my Decouple project is still up on Github to decouple a Vera Plus/Secure/Edge from Vera/Ezlo's cloud services. Veras have been said to misbehave when they can't reach the mother ship. I have also written my first new Vera plugin in... six years? more?... the AlertPushover project will send Vera hub alerts to Pushover, so you can still get messages generated by your Vera hub without paying for Ezlo's cloud service. It's crude but functional (i.e. better than nothing/worth every penny paid). These two projects won't replace the functionality of their cloud service and app for those who need those things. But any that don't, this may help bridge the gap. Hopefully these stragglers who have waited so long and been disappointed so often will get the idea that it's time to move on.
General Discussion
[RESOLVED] Telegram notification broke with latest update
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[RESOLVED] Phantom device, “INFO” appears
wmarcolinW
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[RESOLVED] Mode Status NULL
wmarcolinW
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[RESOLVED] HTTP query failing after version 26177
wmarcolinW
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Question about the find function
wmarcolinW
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[Answered] OK to remove old json files?
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Deprecation Announcement: 32-bit ARM *docker* images
toggledbitsT
If you are using the armv7l docker image, the OpenJS Foundation that publishes node is no longer producing 32-bit builds as of v24. That means the last supported LTS version of node for armv7l is v22, which will go End-of-Life in May 2027. Therefore, the Reactor armv7l image is now deprecated and will only be produced until node v22 goes EOL, and I will not publish armv7l images beyond that date. If you are running an RPi 3 or earlier with Reactor, you are on this image, and will need to upgrade hardware to a 64-bit model and use the arm64 image. If you need help getting it done, ask in this category.
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[Solved] build 26150 - engine not starting
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@toggledbits I pulled the image (well, Watchtower did) and within minutes the whole system went offline. The log looks like it ends with 26143. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mkahsmgf/26qq82mw-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lqyfljfi/22f8on0t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lsb61rw8/24oenqi2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/rule-lrh58he0:S-1c00gfib-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1c00dylr-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1nam9w5u-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miuh2qqi/22ls4lql-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1vj8sdfc-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1qanz01x-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/24lq19p6-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mk0o8iox/23oy468y-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miscg2h3/rule-miscg2h3:S-22gmbq1c-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrfjke/238p0old-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-m7ccsso5/re-m7ccsso5-1r0myjxa-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/19nl9wq2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3xk9t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3vv5m-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/re-ln7j2nqp-22mx9lzd-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/22mx87c8-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-licneppy/1mzwe7ht-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ml3194ih/25jqt1j4-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrg7kf/227hshak-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13ua1p95-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13uagam7-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x4cbv-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x2fyl-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-lscjrws1/238p5c22-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lbwr0jvq/1xkczf03-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure Structure#1 stopped [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <app:NOTICE> Closing APIs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: disconnecting from "192.168.1.23#82" (1001 service closing) [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.548Z <httpapi:NOTICE> HTTP API closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: server closed [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <httpapi:INFO> HTTP server closed. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping timers... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Shutdown complete, process ID 1 [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Closing logs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <default:null> Closing log I can SSH to the VM. Alas, I do not have the previous image for 26143 as I'm a little too quick sometimes on housekeeping.
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Farewell, oh good and faithful servant!
CatmanV2C
Today marks another milestone in my Home Automation journey. After tripping the main breaker once, and shedding more blood than is normally recommended, the underfloor heating (which was the last Z-wave device on my system) has been replaced with a Zigbee one. Edited reactor.conf Disabled z-way-server Disabled Openluup Z-wave is no more.... C
General Discussion
http request action & digest auth
tunnusT
I’m using the HTTP Request action in MSR and need to authenticate against an endpoint that uses HTTP Digest authentication. Now that endpoint was changed to use SHA-256 in digest auth, so I would like to know if MSR supports it, or is it limited to MD5-based digest auth?
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Cloning actions in reactions does not work
tunnusT
With build 26140 (on Docker) I'm not able to clone any actions in reactions. Using Chrome if it has any relevance.
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Has ping command been removed?
tunnusT
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  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    PablaP Pabla

    So this is where all the banned Vera members rejoice.. definitely will be posting here more than the toxic vera community forums

    Vera

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    PablaP Pabla

    I mean I dont want to turn this into a Vera/Ezlo bashing thread, but their progress rate is snail slow. In a tech market like todays you will fall behind very very quickly (if not already). Any sort of true criticism is met with a ban or very unprofessional responses that come off with a very sassy tone. It is what it is though, we have better platforms to turn to, including ones made by talented devs, aka OpenLuup

    Vera

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    PablaP Pabla

    Every time he posts I just laugh. So childish, I would be surprised if Ezlo even last a year.

    Vera

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    PablaP Pabla

    I am just in shock, how low can one go to try to prove themselves right. @toggledbits i commend your ability to remain professional and true to the facts. What Melih is saying is just infuriating me, I can’t imagine how it makes you feel.

    Vera

  • Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
    PablaP Pabla

    After spending some time I think I got it figured out. Thanks to @Crille for the Inspo expression. I created a similar one that would basically deduct the extra light that is added when the lights are on. Basically when the lights are off, the expression gives the true value of the light sensor, and when they're on it deducts the 30lx from the true value. 30lx is probably too much but It seems to work now. The sunrise/sunset trigger is just temporarily there to ensure the lights still turn on and off as back up.

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  • Light automation thoughts
    PablaP Pabla

    @LibraSun said in Light automation thoughts:

    Lately every automation conversation I've had ends with "Dude. You should really get Home Assistant."

    Honestly, Home Assistant impresses me everyday. I really have not come across any shortcomings with it.. the community is great, it supports almost any product and its very very stable. Paired with MSR its unstoppable.

    Software

  • Using HA Harmony Hub to control volume
    PablaP Pabla

    Instead of using a call service command just use the remote entity and invoke the x_hass_remote.send_command and fill in the info as needed. Device is the name of the device you wish to control (in this case your TV), command is the command (Volume Up) and the num_repeats etc. can be left untouched if you don't need it. Device info and commands can be found in the /config folder in HA. It will be labelled harmony_[hub number].conf.

    Home Assistant

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    PablaP Pabla

    The movies over for me.. got banned. Well I at least asked for it

    Vera

  • Create Expression to call out Entity ID of Tripped Binary Sensor
    PablaP Pabla

    @wmarcolin that’s my next plan! I want to get comfortable with some basic expressions first then dive into the dynamicgroupcontroller

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  • Light automation thoughts
    PablaP Pabla

    @CatmanV2 said in Light automation thoughts:

    What I am trying to think is can I just pick up the config and move it to a dedicated host / install at some point, or is it going to get snotty about changes?

    I used to run HA on a windows 11 VM but ran into a few issues that basically stopped my system from running. I ended up purchasing an Ordroid N2+ and the transition was painless. Just restore from back up and everything was working as is.

    Software

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    PablaP Pabla

    @cw-kid don’t jinx it, they’ll probably find a forum rule that you’ve somehow broken to ban you too if they want 🤣

    Vera

  • Feature Request: Back-up through UI
    PablaP Pabla

    Hey Patrick, this is probably a rather large request but it would be nice to be able to download a back-up of MSR through the UI similar to how we could do it with R4V. Beyond that maybe even having the ability to create a rule set that auto backups to a NAS would be even more useful! Currently I know you can just copy the complete reactor file from the machine MSR is running on but using the UI would make backing possible from anywhere and much simpler and quicker!

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  • Vera firmware 7.32 beta
    PablaP Pabla

    Going to be a long day.. more keep coming lol
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    Vera

  • Notifications to HA App via Reactor?
    PablaP Pabla

    @cadwizzard you’ve gotta create a service call for the ‘hass>system’ entity and the service will be notify.(whatever device or notification group). Similar to what I have screenshotted below.

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  • Vera Alexa Plugin 7.32
    PablaP Pabla

    @catmanv2 ha whoops didn’t even check I posted in the correct thread.

    Vera

  • Play music in random order with Sonos playlists/favorites?
    PablaP Pabla

    Could you not av_repeat.shuffle_on and then play the playlist?

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Deleting Multiple Devices without Reload Inbetween
    PablaP Pabla

    Didn't think this one through.. all the devices were hidden so now I am playing the guessing game for when its done lol

    Edit: It worked!!! Thanks Patrick 🙂

    Vera

  • Help with Luup Reloads
    PablaP Pabla

    @toggledbits That makes sense why the plugin wasnt working as expected. That explanation solves so many issues that I have had with plugins lol. Since I would alternate between WinSCP and Uploading via the web UI

    Vera

  • Attach Files in PM
    PablaP Pabla

    Was wondering if we can attach files in a PM to another member, would be very useful if we are attaching files with some sensitive password info or whatever

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  • Does this rule look correct ?
    PablaP Pabla

    @cw-kid Exactly! This way if you want to change Civil Dusk to be -30 mins or whatever it will update across all your Rule Sets!

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