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Reactor Inspect - a small read-only helper panel for MSR
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Reactor Build 26284 stuck at Loading Reactor UI
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MSR with reverse proxy
tunnusT
I'm trying to use MSR via reserve proxy in Synology DSM, but MSR page does not load https://<public ip>:30000/reactor/en-US/ At the same time logging page loads normally https://<public ip>:30000/api/v1/log I thought maybe authentication was messing it up, but there was no deny entries in the log, and also disabling authentication did not make any difference. For this use case VPN is not an option (that works, but as said not an option for this particular use case). Any ideas what could cause this? MSR build latest-26242-28d69aa8, Chrome browser
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Missing attribute after upgrade
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Use of Google Gemini as an MSR and Hubitat configuration aid
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I may be late to the AI party on this, but I recently ran into difficulty installing and configuring the Nexia Thermostat Manager on my Hubitat C8 Pro. Hoping for some immediate help I performed a Google search on my problem. I was a bit surprised to see Gemini jump into assist. Gemini walked me through the steps to clean up the failed install, followed by a script for successful installation and configuration. I would not have expected Gemini to "know" this much about Hubitat. Next I sought assistance MSR with the Entity Actions needed to set up the desired controls. I was unclear which of the attribute fields I should to set the cooling an heating temperatures. Once again, Gemini came back not with just a link to a possible explanation, but an easy to follow explanation instead. Once again, I did not expect Gemini to provide such detailed assistance with MSR. Gemini will be a key tool in my HA toolkit in the future.
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[MSR] Native fan capabilty
therealdbT
Nothing more to add. I see we have hvac_blower, but, anyway, maybe a native fan on the same assumptions of the fan from HASS could be reasonable. I have a couple of them. ie, this is from ESPHome via HASS. x_hass.domain="fan" x_hass.entity_id="fan.kitchen_seashell_hood_ventilation_fan" x_hass.floor_id=null x_hass.services=["fan","esphome"] x_hass.source="esphome" x_hass.state="off" x_hass_attr.friendly_name="Seashell Hood Ventilation Fan" x_hass_attr.percentage=50 x_hass_attr.percentage_step=25 x_hass_attr.preset_mode="" x_hass_attr.preset_modes=[] x_hass_attr.supported_features=49 Thanks.
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[MSR] Rule do not fire
therealdbT
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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
Multi-System Reactor
DynamicGroupController and attributes
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
Multi-System Reactor
Ooops - Deleted Reactor Ex Machina II
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I accidentally deleted Reactor Ex Machina II (REM II) from my Reactor rules. I tried to recover it by deleting the .json and .dval in the Rules subdirectory and then recreating it from Togglebits original posting, but that did not work. Does anyone know how to recover REM ll ?
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Bail out of failed reaction?
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Arming Envisalink panel from MSR
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[Solved] DynamicGroupController updating members issue
CrilleC
Edit: Solved in latest-26221. Bare-metal latest-26193 I have this group: "OKforLarm": name: OK för Larm select: - include_controller: vera - include_capability: door_sensor filter_expression: entity.attributes.door_sensor.state It contains the entities I expect but behaves a bit odd. When I open vera>device_10097 the entity attribute door_sensor.state changes to true but it won't show up as member in the group, when I also open vera>device_10095 they both shows as members and when I close vera>device_10095 it disappear from the group but when I close vera>device_10097 it lingers in the group until I restart Reactor.
Multi-System Reactor
Upgrade Issues
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[SOLVED] Conflicting Set Reaction Groups Appear to Fire Simultaneously in Single Rule Evaluation
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[SOLVED] Question regarding "in" vs "contains" vs contents of the string
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openLuup console disappeared - 500 - Internal Server Error
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Love openLuup - it just keeps working perfectly. I started looking at trying to add a gen4 Shelly device to the Shelly plugin via L_ShellyBridge.lua. The plugin is a little uncooked (no rudeness intended), so a bit of a rabbit hole for me. All of a sudden no console pages available in either Firefox or Chrome. AltUI works perfectly and all the log files indicate no errors. openLuup still running everything works as it should - just no console pages. I possibly screwed something up but any recently changes files show no problems. The original/ backup of L_ShellyBridge.lua was reinstated but still no console. Bit stumped on this one. Not sure how to debug. Any ideas?
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  • Expression Evaluation - Last Seen Date/Time
    S sidmsmith

    I think I solved this with a completely different approach. Instead of using variables based on Last Seen, I am just checking the current state of the sensor and used the Restriction that the sensor must be FALSE (ie door closed) for 120 seconds. Not sure why I did not try this the first time.

    Screenshot 2024-09-03 181724.png

    Since my Reaction is now working, I should probably close this out as Solved. However, I am still interested in how to use a variable as described in the original post in case I need to use a similar approach in the future. Hopefully someone can provide some guidance (thanks realdb!) on how to use the variables. If I don't hear back within a few days, I will go ahead and update this as Solved.

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  • Expression Evaluation - Last Seen Date/Time
    S sidmsmith

    @therealdb Thanks for your feedback!

    I have not used a metadata statement like this before so have a follow up. I think I have the proper data elements. But is this statement supposed to be part of the Expression definition or the Reaction Trigger? The screenshot below shows what I tried creating the expression.

    Screenshot 2024-09-03 161415.png

    Sorry for the lack of understanding on my part! Is the goal to have the variable itself be true/false? Or is the goal to have the variable still provide a numeric result that is used in the reaction? I may just need a little more direction.

    Thanks again!

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  • Expression Evaluation - Last Seen Date/Time
    S sidmsmith

    I am trying to run a reaction that turns on lights if a sensor has not been tripped for 2 minutes. Basically, when a garage door is open, turn on inside lights if nothing has been sensed for 2 minutes. My question has to do with the expression/variable for "Last Seen". The variable never gets updated over time since the last seen event never changes.

    Screenshot 2024-09-02 191632.png

    In the screenshot above, the reaction checks for any garage door as well as the variable called "GarageLastEntry". The expression for this variable is displayed below:

    Screenshot 2024-09-02 191651.png

    The problem that I am experiencing is that the variable never changes over time. I understand that this is because the "last seen" variable does not change over time when there is no activity. In this screenshot, the value shows 0.029... This can also be seen as the current value in the original reaction screenshot above. After 10 minutes, this value should be 10. However, when a garage door is opened, the variable does not get updated and thus the rule does not become true since .029 is less than 2.

    When I go to the variable and click on the > icon, the variable then gets updated as expected as seen below:
    Screenshot 2024-09-02 191711.png

    So the ultimate question is, how do I use a rule that can use a variable such as "last seen"? Do I need to create another variable or reaction that multiplies this by 1 every minute? From what I read in the manual, a variable is evaluated every time it is included in a reaction. But this is not what I am seeing.

    I also want to ask another question related to this variable. It seems like Reactor continuously deletes this variable and I have to keep recreating it? I have never experienced this with MSR so wanted to ask if this is a common problem or if my definition is causing this.

    Any info is appreciated!!!

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  • MSR Not Actioning
    S sidmsmith

    I updated to the latest build and this solved all of my issues. Thanks for the suggestions! I will try to stay up to date on the latest stable builds from here on.

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  • MSR Not Actioning
    S sidmsmith

    I am running MSR on a small windows machine. Earlier this week, the machine restarted and Reactor restarted as well. I am now experiencing an issue in which Reactor doesn't seem to be making any updates or calling any scenes. Reactor is communicating with Vera and all entities seem to be accurate (ie lights on or off) and manually clicking on Actions seems to work just fine. The Status page also seems accurate and displays rules automatically being SET and RESET. But when the Reaction changes from SET to RESET or vice versa, none of the actions are actually invoked.

    For example, I manually ran a SET action at 11:29 and my lights turned on. At 11:30, the Status Dashboard shows the rule updating to RESET, but the lights did not turn off.

    I have included a screenshot of the rule history below as well as the log for these times as well.

    Any ideas on what can be going on? I have tried restarting the Windows machine as well as Reactor multiple times to see if this fixes this behavior but have not had any success. Any information is appreciated.

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    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:39.161Z VeraController:null VeraController#vera enqueued task for Entity#vera>scene_3 action script.run: task [Object]{ "SceneNum": "3", "DeviceNum": 0, "id": "action", "serviceId": "urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HomeAutomationGateway1", "action": "RunScene" }
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:39.587Z VeraController:INFO VeraController#vera 0 dead entities older than 86400000s purged
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.763Z Rule:NOTICE Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) configuration changed; reloading
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.766Z Rule:NOTICE Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) stopping
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.772Z Rule:NOTICE Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) stopped
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.773Z Rule:NOTICE Rule#rule-la4gnzmt (Evening Lights Rule) starting
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.777Z Rule:INFO Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) starting evaluation; because startup
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.779Z Rule:INFO Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to SET!
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.802Z Rule:INFO Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) evaluation complete
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.809Z Rule:INFO Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) started
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.811Z Engine:INFO Enqueueing "Evening Lights Rule<SET>" (rule-la4gnzmt:S)
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.840Z Engine:NOTICE Starting reaction Evening Lights Rule<SET> (rule-la4gnzmt:S)
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:29:45.842Z Engine:INFO Evening Lights Rule<SET> all actions completed.
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:30:00.008Z Rule:INFO Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) starting evaluation; because timer-trigger Timer#rule-la4gnzmt
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:30:00.024Z Rule:INFO Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) evaluated; rule state transition from SET to RESET!
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:30:00.055Z Rule:INFO Evening Lights Rule (Rule#rule-la4gnzmt) evaluation complete
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:30:00.062Z Engine:INFO Enqueueing "Evening Lights Rule<RESET>" (rule-la4gnzmt:R)
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:30:00.079Z Engine:NOTICE Starting reaction Evening Lights Rule<RESET> (rule-la4gnzmt:R)
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:30:00.080Z Engine:INFO Evening Lights Rule<RESET> all actions completed.
    [stable-22274]2023-04-14T03:30:01.099Z VeraController:INFO VeraController#vera 0 dead entities older than 86400000s purged

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  • HTTP Request Max Response Limit
    S sidmsmith

    MSR has a parameter called "http_request_action_maxresponse" that can be updated within the properties. There is a good section describing this in the manual. However, the installation config file doesn't include the parameter out of the box. I was able to add the parameter (see below) and eventually got it to work after searching for a while.

    Suggestions:

    1. Include the parameter in the initial config file (or)
    2. Update the manual to state that the parameter should be added to the file

    Additional suggestion:
    I understand that it is potentially unsafe to have a large limit overall. However, some API calls unfortunately return large sizes which aren't necessarily problematic. The additional suggestion is to include a configurable max size within each HTTP Reaction in the UI. If it isn't populated then MSR could default to the config file like it does today. This way, we could have a reasonable default limit while allowing larger limit for certain HTTP calls.

      engine:
        #
        # enabled - Whether or not the rules engine runs. Change only when directed.
        enabled: true
        http_request_action_maxresponse: 10000
    
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