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wmarcolin

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Disaster recovery and virtualisation
CatmanV2C

Following on from my last thread, some progress has been made over the weekend.

With 18G of spanky RAM in my Synology DS224+. I've jumped into the murky world of virtualisation and already eliminated the need for two Raspberry Pi's from my system.

Home Assistant: In theory they provide an OVA file which is supported by the Synology. I couldn't get it to work, however, so grabbed a copy of the .img file they supply, renamed it .iso and imported it as a VM. Restored from my full back up and that all seems fantastic.

Minidnla Music server: Trivial. Grabbed a Debian .iso for Bookworm and copied that onto the NAS. Created a new machine which mirrored the specs of the Raspberry Pi, booted from the ISO then did an expert install. Once that was all stable with a basic core of stuff and networking, I've made a copy of that as a good base system. Then fired up minidnla on it, mounted my media and that's also woking. Not bad for a short weekend's work.

Still not sure about the main NUC though. I'm thinking of buying a new USB stick so I can mess around getting it working on the Synology before I do anything drastic.

Once that hurdle is sorted I'm torn between:

Using a brand new install of Bookworm, re-installing Z-way server, OpenLuup, AltUI, MSR and HA bridge, then restoring across or Making an ISO of the current system, importing that and upgrading in place (which will be pretty risk free since I can snapshot everything before I make any changes.)

Decisions, decisions.

C

General Discussion
Local notification methods?
CatmanV2C

Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method.

This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP.

I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone)

I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions?

TIA

C

Multi-System Reactor
RFC: When disaster strikes (sorry it's a bit verbose)
CatmanV2C

Hi everyone. Thanks for all your input recently on the topic of local notifications. I think we got some really interesting solutions 🙂

Back to more prosaic matters. Most of you will know that I've been messing around with this stuff for some years. My last major change was when I migrated from Vera, which was something like 4-5 years ago.

While my system has grown, it's not really altered very regularly, although I try to keep most of it kind of up to date.

Current set up:
Intel NUC that runs:
Bare metal install of Debian
Z-way server with Z-wave.me USB stick
Openluup
Altui
Multi system reactor
HA Bridge
Mosquito

Raspberry Pi
Running Home Assistant

About 40 varied Z-wave and Wifi devices

I also have a Synology DS224+ which may inform some responses.

Home Assistant recovery is pretty simple. I get a full backup of the system every night dumped onto my SAN and I know from experience that it would simply be a case of booting up a new install and feeding it the backup.

The NUC on the other hand....
Coming from a commercial IT world, I am becoming more and more conscious that I don't really feel I have a suitable disaster recovery plan, and my core system is running on hardware heading for 10 years old.

My initial thought, which I've kept putting off as it's awkward would be to grab a nice SSD, reboot the NUC into Mint or something similar and simply do a dd copy onto a new drive. I can get a replacement NUC on ebay simply enough, and keep it in a cupboard if anything other than the hard drive fails on the existing one, but this feels rather like a stop gap. However one immediate question:

If I had to use the replacement NUC would all the Z-wave devices simply carry on talking to the stick, or would they all need to be re-paired?

How easy would it be to move everything the NUC does (as a start) onto the NAS? Create a VM and clone the disc onto it?

Should I move to Docker? Something else?

What are the hive mind's thoughts?

Apologies if we've done this before, but while it all just works...

Cheers!

C

General Discussion
AltUI sans internet connection
CatmanV2C

Morning world. Looking for some thoughts on recent experience 🙂

Yesterday my ISP had something of a catastrophic failure (in theory not yet fixed but seems OK for now)

While this is annoying for several reasons, one thing that I wasn't expecting was for AltUI to become pretty much un-usable.

Unless I have a tab already open and active, connecting to the Home page is pretty much random / impossible, just presenting with a white page and (sometimes) 'Waiting for initial data' on the bottom. Everything works (i.e. where I have controllers or Reactions I can trigger, they function flawlessly) it's just something of a pain since 99.9% of my control is via Alexa now, and not being able to access devices in AltUI makes things like turning some lights of a bit tricky 😉

I suspect that this is due to AltUI trying to pull licence info and Weather data, and failing. What I should do is probably access the OpelLuup console direct and see if that works better in future.

Does that make sense to anyone, or am I completely off track?

Cheers

C

Software
Eachen No Neutral smart wall switch to lights and Sonoff Mini R4 switch for LEDs
R

Hi all. First post so please be gentle.

I have an Eachen two-gang smart wall switch wired no neutral (with capacitor) connected to existing bathroom lights which works perfectly. It's also wired to a Sonoff Mini R4 Extreme connected to LED lights. I want the LED lights to switch on when the bathroom lights switch on (and vice versa). The Mini R4 works separately on my phone via Ewelink as well as on the Mini R4 itself (physical button). The switch is installed inside the wall and the rest of the components are in the ceiling / attic / roof cavity. The Mini R4 is set to Edge switch mode which works in my example I wired.

How I wired it:

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I have a video showcasing the example I wired today works. I could share it if required. Ignore the white cable. I only used it to power the example.

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The wiring diagram I used for the mini R4.

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I wired it together with the existing lights of the bathroom so that L1 switches on both the Mini R4 and the bathroom lights:

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This is the wiring diagram for the Eachen switch:
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The Eachen's first gang (L1) doesn't trigger the Mini R4 in any way.

Any help or advice will be much appreciated.

Thanks,
R

General Discussion
Custom capabilities in MQTT templates
M

Hi,
I'm trying to integrate the sonos-mqtt (https://sonos2mqtt.svrooij.io/) with the MSR and it's coming along nicely so far.
But cannot wrap my head around how to define custom capabilities in MQTT templates. I need this for the TTS announcements and similarly for the notification sounds where I would pass the sound file as parameter.

So this is what I have in the local_mqtt_devices.yaml

capabilities: x_sonos_announcement: attributes: actions: speak: arguments: text: type: string volume: type: int delay: type: int

And this is the template:

templates: sonos-announcement: capabilities: - x_sonos_announcement actions: x_sonos_announcement: speak: topic: "sonos/cmd/speak" payload: expr: > { "text": parameters.text, "volume": parameters.volume, "delayMs": parameters.delay, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" } type: json

So the speak action should send something like this to topic sonos/cmd/speak

{ "text": "message goes here", "volume": 50, "delayMs": 100, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" }

At startup the MSR seems to be quite unhappy with my configuration:

reactor | [latest-25016]2025-02-09T08:19:59.029Z <MQTTController:WARN> MQTTController#mqtt entity Entity#mqtt>sonos-announcement unable to configure capabilities [Array][ "x_sonos_announcement" ] reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} has unrecognized capability {1:q} in actions reactor | Trace: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:611:28) reactor | at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:125:25) reactor | at MQTTController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:627:30) reactor | at MQTTController.start (/var/reactor/ext/MQTTController/MQTTController.js:268:26) reactor | at async Promise.allSettled (index 0) Configuration for "sonos-announcement" has unrecognized capability "x_sonos_announcement" in actions Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM Configuration for "sonos-announcement" is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: x_sonos_announcement Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM

This is probably a pretty stupid question and the approach may not even work at all, but maybe someone or @toggledbits for sure, could point me to the right direction.
Basically the idea is to be able to send TTS messages from reactions using entity actions. I've previously used HTTP requests to Sonos HTTP API (https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisns/docker-node-sonos-http-api/) for the same functionality, but since moving to sonos-mqtt, I need a way to send the TTS notifications using MQTTController. Along with the actual message, volume and delay must also be parameterizable.

br,
mgvra

MSR latest-25016-d47fea38 / MQTTController [0.2.24293]

Multi-System Reactor
[SOLVED]Hass websocket falsely reporting ready on boot??
V

Hi, @toggledbits

I just noticed that following a reboot of my raspberry pi, some of the rules, that I was expecting to recover, are not catching up following a reboot. I have made a simple test rule (rule-m6rz6ol1) with only "after Date/time" as trigger and "turn on a lamp" as a set reaction. All my infrastructure is on the same board so Reactor, Hass, Zwavejs, ... are all rebooting.

Here is the sequence of the test case (All time converted to Zulu to match logs):

Rule "after Date/Time" set to 14:05:00z Shutdown on Raspberry Pi at 14:04:00z Power back up at 14:08:00z Rule overview shows true as of 14:08:14z waiting for 00:00:00 in GUI

From the log I can see that MSR is picking up the rule and knows that the state of the rule has changed from false to true and tries to send the update to HASS but failed with websocket error.

Here is what I see from the log:

14:04:04z shutdown complete 14:08:08z Power up 14:08:13.111z websocket connection 14:08:15:323z Reaction to the light failed, Websocket not opened After there is a series of websocket connection attempt until 14:08:51z where it seemed to be really ready.

Back in 2021 we had a discussion (https://smarthome.community/topic/700/solved-start-up?_=1738766986566) and you proposed to add a startup_delay:xxxx and startup_wait:xxxx parameter in the engine section of "reactor.yaml". When I try the startup_delay (this used to be a hard delay), the engine failed to start (I think). I then try the startup_wait:xxxx without any success. Since it wait for the connection status to be up to cancel the delay, it does not do anyting since Hass is reporting the socket up without really being up ( I think...).

Questions:

Did I figured it all wrong? should the startup_delay:xxxxx have worked? Any ideas?

Here is the log:

OK now I am stuck. I did add the log but when I submit the editor complained saying that I am limited to 32767 characters. The log from the shutdown to the time the websocket is stable is about 300000 character long. What are my options?

Multi-System Reactor
[SOLVED]Logs permissions for Docker Install
V

Not a big issue simply a request if easily doable.

The MSR logs files inside the container are owned by root witch is fine however, the permissions are very restrictive. I do not know if there is something wrong with my installation but the logs permission are set to 222 (write only). Even if the docker volume is set for Read/Write the log files are retaining these values.

I go around the problem by doing a chmod 777 on all reactor logs but every time there is an MSR log rotation the permissions are set back to 222. So unless the permission are implemented in the container there is no permanent solution to this (that I know of).

I do not know much about Docker container so I do not know what is involved here.

Can the logfiles permission be simply chaged in the container to at least allow "other" read permission?

Could the MSR log rotation routine implement a chmod to set the permission?

Just a small anoyance

Thanks

Multi-System Reactor
Button.Since Revisited
SnowmanS

@toggledbits In the MSR documentation, under Standard Capabilities, I noticed that the
button.since attribute was deprecated as of version 22256 and the metadata is the preferred way to access the last-modified time of an attribute.

Am I reading this right? Should I stop using it in my rules?

Thanks

Multi-System Reactor
[SOLVED] reactor_inet_check script... and containers
G

When on my bare metal RPi with MSR I had a rule that ran every minute to check Internet status via a script in MSR called reactor_inet_check.sh

I've moved to containerized MSR and see in the instructions that this cannot be run from the container.

The script cannot run within the Reactor docker container. If you are using Reactor in a docker container, the script needs to be run by cron or an equivalent facility on the host system (e.g. some systems, like Synology NAS, have separate task managers that may be used to schedule the repeated execution of tasks such as this).

I've put a script on my container host that calls the reator_inet_check.sh script and it isn't erroring... but I still see the internet status within MSR as null.

Before I go diving down the rabbit hole... should this work?

My cronjob on the proxmox host:
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The contents of msr_internet_check_caller.sh
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Multi-System Reactor
Hello and first network question
D

Just bought a couple of generic smart plugs and set them up easily using SmartLife app in the house I then plugged one into a workshop over 100m away This workshop has a hardwired internet connection with a separate wireless access router (not mesh) after doing a reset on the device and pairing to the new router it actually works from the house when my phone is connected to a completely separate wifi network - how is that possible ?
I did read something about these devices connecting to a server somewhere in China similar to IP cameras but there is no lag

General Discussion
Lights switches for warehouse
S

I need to replace about 15 traditional wall light switches (no neutral wire) to turn on/off all lights with one operation inside the warehouse. And still maintain the ability to control each light individually.

The preference is not to set up a Wifi for each switch to reduce the number of devices connected to the network, and also, they change the Wifi password regularly, so they do not want to change all 15 switches.

I am looking for some solution that will achieve this with either Bluetooth/RF or any other technology.
The warehouse dimensions are about 100ftx100ft with sheetrock walls.

Please assist.

General Discussion
Catch-all lights rule
G

Background: this is a Windows MSR install I've done for our local pool/amenity center just to run some fans and lights (not my daily driver at home). Install went perfectly fine.

Scenario: I want the lights to go on when it's dark enough (even if during a storm, not just after sunset) so I'm using solarRadiation from my weather station to drive that Trigger. Easy stuff.

Issue: sometimes, someone goes in the office and just starts flipping switches and the result can be lights turned on in the daytime or off at night. I'm trying to create a "catch-all" wherein if it is daytime and the lights somehow find their way ON, they will turn themselves back OFF.

I have the following Reaction built:

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I also have this Reaction for opposite, ie the lights find themselves turned off after dark and they will turn themselves back on:

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Here are my two rules:

288cba86-f941-4157-86d9-d8e7487905f7-image.png *NOTE that in my manual testing, ie I turn on the light switch at the incorrect time, when the solarRadiation level changes the Lights ON rule flags and shows as SET. On the next change of solarRadiation it goes back to reset again.

My expectation is that Lights OFF rule should see the lights are on, the solarRadiation is above the set limit, and turn them off. Instead, every other run, the ON rule moves to SET and then reset again on the following run.

Logs appear angry:

[latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:31.696Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights ON<RESET>" (rule-m6e4ajh7:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:31.712Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights ON<RESET> (rule-m6e4ajh7:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:31.713Z <Engine:INFO> Lights ON<RESET> all actions completed. [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.565Z <wsapi:INFO> client "127.0.0.1#3" closed, code=1001, reason= [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.753Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/lang [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.754Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/lang from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/lang ACL (#7): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/lang", "allow": true, "index": 7 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.790Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.839Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 client "127.0.0.1#6" authorized [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:43.353Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/systime [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:43.353Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/systime from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/systime ACL (#5): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/systime", "allow": true, "index": 5 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.146Z <wsapi:INFO> client "127.0.0.1#6" closed, code=1001, reason= [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.308Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/lang [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.309Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/lang from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/lang ACL (#7): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/lang", "allow": true, "index": 7 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.346Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.390Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 client "127.0.0.1#7" authorized [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:49.412Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/systime [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:49.413Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/systime from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/systime ACL (#5): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/systime", "allow": true, "index": 5 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.734Z <wsapi:INFO> client "127.0.0.1#7" closed, code=1001, reason= [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.891Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/lang [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.892Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/lang from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/lang ACL (#7): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/lang", "allow": true, "index": 7 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.925Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.965Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 client "127.0.0.1#8" authorized [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:54.383Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/systime [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:54.384Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/systime from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/systime ACL (#5): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/systime", "allow": true, "index": 5 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:01.590Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.646Z <Rule:INFO> Lights OFF (rule-m6e33ja3 in Atrium Lights) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to SET! [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.656Z <Rule:INFO> Lights ON (rule-m6e4ajh7 in Atrium Lights) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to SET! [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.663Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights OFF<SET>" (rule-m6e33ja3:S) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.665Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights ON<SET>" (rule-m6e4ajh7:S) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.668Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights OFF<SET> (rule-m6e33ja3:S) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.669Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights ON<SET> (rule-m6e4ajh7:S) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.669Z <Engine:INFO> Lights ON<SET> all actions completed. [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.675Z <Rule:INFO> Lights OFF (rule-m6e33ja3 in Atrium Lights) evaluated; rule state transition from SET to RESET! [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.680Z <Engine:NOTICE> ReactionHistory: no entry for [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.683Z <Engine:NOTICE> [Engine]Engine#1 entry 256 reaction rule-m6e33ja3:S-1q2f1j0p: [Error] terminated [parent terminating] [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.683Z <Engine:CRIT> Error: terminated [parent terminating] Error: terminated at Engine._process_reaction_queue (C:\Users\Jalan\msr\reactor\server\lib\Engine.js:1644:47) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.699Z <Engine:NOTICE> [Engine]Engine#1 entry 254 reaction rule-m6e33ja3:S: [Error] terminated [preempted by rule state change] [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.699Z <Engine:CRIT> Error: terminated [preempted by rule state change] Error: terminated at Engine._process_reaction_queue (C:\Users\Jalan\msr\reactor\server\lib\Engine.js:1644:47) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.700Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights OFF<RESET>" (rule-m6e33ja3:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.704Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights OFF<RESET> (rule-m6e33ja3:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.705Z <Engine:INFO> Lights OFF<RESET> all actions completed. [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:05:48.822Z <Rule:INFO> Lights ON (rule-m6e4ajh7 in Atrium Lights) evaluated; rule state transition from SET to RESET! [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:05:48.831Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights ON<RESET>" (rule-m6e4ajh7:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:05:48.847Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights ON<RESET> (rule-m6e4ajh7:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:05:48.847Z <Engine:INFO> Lights ON<RESET> all actions completed.
Multi-System Reactor
Throttled problem
wmarcolinW

Hi @toggledbits

I found this very old post that talked about a way to limit device reading to avoid the throttled problem, because it's not a question of logic, it's that the device actually sends a lot of information, in my case the NUT ups installed in HE.

https://smarthome.community/topic/687/flapping-device?_=1737652139854

It mentions engine section of reactor.yaml by setting update_rate_limit, but I looked in the current MSR documentation and I can't find this information, so I don't know if it's still valid, its effect and parameters.

My situation is simple, when I have a UPS problem the NUT is sending dozens of reports per second and then I have the throttled problem. The same rule applies when the power is normal.

This is the rule, and the parameter that fails is the Tripp Lite UPS status.

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a813a077-974e-4737-897c-e383085b3d8f-image.png

All error is the same scenario.

[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.753Z <Rule:WARN> (13) NUT Disconected (rule-l4djr0p7 in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.756Z <Rule:WARN> (27) Falta de Energia (rule-l4h9ceod in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.769Z <Rule:WARN> (73) UPS Battery Low (rule-l4hj850o in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.772Z <Rule:WARN> (74) UPS Comm Fail (rule-l4kbs5cp in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttlin> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.776Z <Rule:WARN> (76) UPS Utility Back (rule-l4hjhs6m in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.780Z <Rule:WARN> UPS On Battery (rule-l4hjuka5 in Datacenter) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttling> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.781Z <Rule:WARN> UPS Info (rule-l4gheo63 in Datacenter) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttling... [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.757Z <Rule:WARN> (13) NUT Disconected (rule-l4djr0p7 in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.759Z <Rule:WARN> (27) Falta de Energia (rule-l4h9ceod in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.776Z <Rule:WARN> (73) UPS Battery Low (rule-l4hj850o in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.777Z <Rule:WARN> (74) UPS Comm Fail (rule-l4kbs5cp in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttlin> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.778Z <Rule:WARN> (76) UPS Utility Back (rule-l4hjhs6m in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>

Thanks.

Multi-System Reactor
Dynamic Alert Based on Tripped Expression
T

Hello -

Long time. Hope everyone is good.

I have a rule that looks at a number of temperature sensors around the house. It simply sends a general alert if any of them fall below their threshold. (A basic “House is too cold” alert for when we’re away)

Generally, this has worked well. But I was wondering if there’s a way to make the message somewhat dynamic without creating separate rules for each sensor.

E.g. “House is too cold due to Sump Temperature below 45 degrees.”

I thought I remember reading about someone doing this in the past but couldn’t find it.

Thanks for any ideas!

Multi-System Reactor
latest-25016 toggle.toggle on VeraController Lock entity not working
CrilleC

After upgrade from 24366 to 25016 toggle on Vera (openLuup) lock entity doesn't seem to work.

VeraController log level 5
24366:

[latest-24366]2025-01-20T20:26:49.724Z <VeraController:INFO> VeraController#vera perform action toggle.toggle on Lock#vera>device_10016 with [Object]{ } [latest-24366]2025-01-20T20:26:49.725Z <VeraController:5:VeraController.js:514> [VeraController:verarequest] requesting http://127.0.0.1:3480/data_request?id=action&serviceId=urn%3Amicasaverde-com%3AserviceId%3ADoorLock1&action=SetTarget&newTargetValue=0&DeviceNum=10016&output_format=json&_r=1737404809725 ([Object]{ })

25016:

[latest-25016]2025-01-20T20:30:25.457Z <VeraController:INFO> VeraController#vera perform action toggle.toggle on Lock#vera>device_10016 with [Object]{ } [latest-25016]2025-01-20T20:30:25.458Z <VeraController:5:VeraController.js:1210> VeraController#vera no configured implementation for toggle.toggle on Lock#vera>device_10016; calling super [latest-25016]2025-01-20T20:30:25.458Z <VeraController:INFO> VeraController#vera perform action lock.set on Lock#vera>device_10016 with [Object]{ "state": false } [latest-25016]2025-01-20T20:30:25.461Z <VeraController:5:VeraController.js:1255> VeraController#vera sending action request [Object]{ "newTargetValue": "0", "DeviceNum": 10016, "id": "action", "serviceId": "urn:upnp-org:serviceId:DoorLock1", "action": "SetTarget" } [latest-25016]2025-01-20T20:30:25.461Z <VeraController:5:VeraController.js:515> [VeraController:verarequest] requesting http://127.0.0.1:3480/data_request?newTargetValue=0&DeviceNum=10016&id=action&serviceId=urn%3Aupnp-org%3AserviceId%3ADoorLock1&action=SetTarget&output_format=json&_r=1737405025461 ([Object]{ }) [latest-25016]2025-01-20T20:30:25.463Z <VeraController:NOTICE> VeraController#vera action lock.set([Object]{ "state": false }) on Lock#vera>device_10016 succeeded

I tried to log an issue in Mantis Bug Tracker but I can't log in anymore?

Multi-System Reactor
[Solved] Local expression evaluation
V

Trying to understand what cause a local expresssion to be evaluated. I have read the manual but I am still not clear about it. Using the test rule below, I can see in the log that the rule is being automatically evaluated every time the temperature entity is changing. That is great...

What I am trying to understand is why the expression is not evaluated based on time as well since the "case" statement has time dependencies.

Any help would be appreciated

I have the following test rule:

eba6a3ea-ff61-4610-88c9-9b9864f11ff8-Screenshot 2025-01-21 095244.png

2d9c1ff5-7b73-4005-b324-9029c2709db9-Screenshot 2025-01-21 095302.png

Here is the expressioncode:

vFrom1 = "09:25:00", vFrom2 = "09:30:00", vFrom3 = "09:41:00", vTo = "10:55:00", # Get current time (format HH:MM:SS) vToDay = strftime("%H:%M:%S"), #Get current house temperature CurrentHouseTemp = getEntity( "hass>Thermostat2 " ).attributes.temperature_sensor.value, case when CurrentHouseTemp <= 19 and vToDay >= vFrom1 && vToDay <= vTo: "true1" # From1 when CurrentHouseTemp <= 20 and vToDay >= vFrom2 && vToDay <= vTo: "true2" # From2 when CurrentHouseTemp < 26  and vToDay >= vFrom3 && vToDay <= vTo: "true3" # From3 else "false" end
Multi-System Reactor
Apple Home Automation Issue
J

I’ve set up an automation in Apple Home to turn on the lights when the first person arrives. However, the lights also turn on when I leave for work. It seems like the automation is triggered when I cross the geofence, whether arriving or leaving.

I’m using Matter-compatible Tapo smart plugs. Is there a way to fix this behavior?

How-To
Migration Vera to HA > how to send sensor data from Vera to HA?
M

Hi,

I started home automation in 2013 and using Vera controllers from the start. When Reactor plugin became available (super plugin of @toggledbits !!) I transferred all scenes to Reactor.
I must say everything here works still okay and I have a lot of devices, plugins and Reactors. But I fear at some point my Vera's will stop working.
I recognize many of your names here from the Vera forum. I also was banned a couple of years ago.
Recently I decided to switch to Home Assistant. I already transferred some of my zwave devices from Vera to HA and made some new automations.
I must say HA is great and with huge amount of integrations, add-ons, the HACS store and many examples (like blueprints) the opportunites to increase home automation are huge.
HA will be for sure my central system (incl UI)

But... the learning curve is quite steap (YAML is completely different from Lua/luup).
So for the time being I will keep my most complex Reactor automations.
I already found how I can connect/integrate Vera for binairy sensors via webhooks (as an example: changes in my home modes are directly send from Vera to HA).

Now I also want to use some data like sensors or Reactor variables automatically to HA via https requests (put those in Reactor).
I know I can create virtual sensors in HA via templates.

As an example: I have my own PWS with a rainmeter. In Reactor I compare the amount of rain (in mm) in the actual year with historical figures (past 15 years) and calculate the difference actual vs history in % Every day at 0.00h these figures are updated. I defined variables in Reactor and use Multistring plugin (Variable container) to show the data.

I know several specialists in coding with experience in both Vera and HA are active here on this forum.

Who can help me with this ?

Home Assistant
[Solved] Migrating MSR to Docker on Proxmox
G
Zero issues installing Proxmox on a new MiniPC. Zero issues migrating my HA instance over to the new hotness (I know, I was surprised, too!)

And then MSR...

My first issue: I'm logged into the msr CT as reactor (I used the suggested username just to keep things simple as this is new space for me and I was high off my success of migrating HA over).

When I run

docker pull toggledbits/reactor:latest-amd64

... it assigns the \reactor\ subdirectory where installed root ownership. I am absolutely logged in with the correct non-root user.
1c58aead-85ca-4b2c-8f48-c3d1f57d7fe3-image.png

Second issue: I copied over the following folders:
67e7e4a5-cee8-4de1-90c7-1df35f1070b9-image.png When MSR loads, all of my Global Expressions are missing.

Third issue:
All controllers connect wonderfully (Hubitat, etc)... except HA.
After changing ownership of the logs to reactor again I can see this when MSR calls HA:

[latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:43.128Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat successful connection to ws://192.168.1.214/eventsocket [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:43.151Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitat current mode is Evening (2) [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:43.212Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitat HSM status is disarmed [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:43.214Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller HubitatController#hubitat is now online. [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:43.255Z <MQTTController:INFO> MQTTController#mqtt2 connected; opening subscriptions [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:43.371Z <MQTTController:INFO> MQTTController#mqtt2 sending inits and going online! [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:43.373Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller MQTTController#mqtt2 is now online. [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:47.179Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connecting to ws://192.168.1.123:8123/api/websocket [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:47.180Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass websocket error during open/negotation: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.1.123:8123 [-] [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:47.180Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass ws error code ECONNREFUSED [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:47.180Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket to ws://192.168.1.123:8123/api/websocket closed during open/negotiation [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:47.180Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass failed to connect/initialize communication: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.1.123:8123 [-] [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:52.181Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connecting to ws://192.168.1.123:8123/api/websocket [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:52.183Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass websocket error during open/negotation: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.1.123:8123 [-] [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:52.183Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass ws error code ECONNREFUSED [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:52.183Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket to ws://192.168.1.123:8123/api/websocket closed during open/negotiation [latest-24366]2025-01-12T00:03:52.183Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass failed to connect/initialize communication: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.1.123:8123 [-]

Yes, I created a fresh new long-lived access token for the MSR containerized install and updated the reactor.yaml config file correctly.

Honestly, all-in-all, for my total lack of expertise here I'm very pleased that I only have these three issues. But they are def blockers atm.

My RPi bare metal install of MSR hooked right up to the new HA and is humming along just fine (I used hostnames were possible and shuffled some IPs in other places so I wouldn't run into things later that were mapped incorrectly that I'd forgotten about.)

Proxmox 8.3.2 MSR lives in an Ubuntu 24.04 Proxmox container MSR is latest docker version

What else can I provide to those smarter than me here?

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  • Throttled problem
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits

    Looking for a solution, I implement this script.

    #!/bin/bash

# Nome do UPS configurado em /etc/nut/ups.conf
UPS_NAME="TrippLite"

# Comando para verificar o status do UPS
if upsc "$UPS_NAME@localhost" | grep -q "DATA-STALE"; then
    echo "$(date): DATA-STALE detectado. Reiniciando o serviço NUT." >> /var/log/monitor_nut.log
    systemctl restart nut-driver.service
    systemctl restart nut-server.service
    systemctl restart nut-monitor.service
else
    echo "$(date): Serviço funcionando normalmente." >> /var/log/monitor_nut.log
fi

    We'll see if it eases the problem, but here's the situation with the NUT.

  • Throttled problem
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits

    I removed the crontab stop and restart process with a set time, and then restarted the MSR to follow the new logs, below.

    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:58.785Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v25026
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.438Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.16>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.444Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.444Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) >
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.544Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client not yet ready; waiting
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.544Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:29:00.631Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:29:00.688Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:17.580Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:17.580Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:27.602Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:27.603Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:37.610Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:37.610Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:47.618Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:47.619Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:57.682Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:57.682Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:07.687Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:07.687Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:18.056Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:18.056Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:28.059Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:28.059Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:38.068Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:38.068Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
.
. start the DAT-STALE
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:13.198Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:23.199Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:23.200Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:33.202Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:33.203Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:43.213Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:43.214Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:53.227Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:53.227Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:03.330Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:03.330Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
.
. nothing change than I restart the process (
.
#systemctl restart nut-driver.service
#systemctl restart nut-server.service
#systemctl restart nut-monitor.service
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:13.332Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:13.332Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:23.336Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:23.336Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:33.362Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:33.363Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:43.414Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:43.414Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DRIVER-NOT-CONNECTED
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.544Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting re>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.596Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.16>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.597Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.597Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) >
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.598Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.648Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:54.705Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:54.748Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:37.934Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:37.934Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:47.942Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:47.942Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:57.945Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:57.946Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:29:07.959Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:29:07.960Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
.
. but after 8min DATA-STALE again
.

    When it failed I consulted upsc directly and the answer I got was the one below.

    root@main:/home/wilson/reactor/logs# upsc TrippLite@192.168.50.8
Init SSL without certificate database
Error: Data stale
root@main:/home/wilson/reactor/logs#

    Importantly, in MSR the NUT service does not crash, but it stops updating.

    654abd95-559a-41de-a535-c4ae65f81943-image.png

    See that the device goes into an uninformed/excluded status.

    ee8ca3f8-76e0-4020-8364-5644bc593555-image.png

    I don't think the problem lies with the MSR/NUTConttoler, it's a matter of the NUT itself managing the UPS. I've been in this situation for more than a year and I can't get out of the problem loop, so some time ago I adopted the stop and restart crontab to alleviate the problem.

  • Throttled problem
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    Hi @toggledbits !!

    I installed the new version, and at the same time created a log file specifically for NUTController, below is what I captured in the first 20 minutes, remembering that every 10 minutes I stop and restart the service to mitigate the problem.

    [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.243Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v25026
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.840Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.848Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.848Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.887Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.960Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:32.007Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.750Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting reconnect...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.808Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.810Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.811Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.811Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.812Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.812Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.897Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.898Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.911Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
.
. repeat same fail 4....28
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.732Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.733Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.734Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (29 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.740Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.741Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.742Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (30 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.762Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.826Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.875Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.389Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting reconnect...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.440Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.440Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.441Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.441Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.444Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.445Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.454Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.455Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.462Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
.
. repeat same fail 4....28
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.245Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.246Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.246Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (29 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.246Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.248Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.248Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (30 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.251Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.310Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.367Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
  • Throttled problem
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits download and test now.

  • Throttled problem
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits hi!

    This NUT UPS issue is something I've been unable to get to work perfectly for months, not to mention year. I even posted a message to you recently.

    I tried to use an old solution from the HE community instead of the MSR solution. The information it returns is much simpler, I had to add attributes to the drive, but the problem turns out to be the same, the NUT stops working, the communication between the UPS and the VM where the NUT is located is not stable. HE upsd drive result: Satale date.

    dev:1572025-01-24 08:21:16.586 PMinfo
connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
dev:1572025-01-24 08:21:01.183 PMinfo
connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:31.149 PMerror
telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:01.110 PMinfo
disconnected from upsd
dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:00.082 PMerror
telnet status: send error: Broken pipe (Write failed)
dev:1572025-01-24 08:11:15.553 PMinfo
connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:45.514 PMerror
telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:30.421 PMerror
telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.277 PMinfo
disconnected from upsd
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.252 PMerror
telnet status: receive error: Stream is closed
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.228 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.216 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.203 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.122 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.111 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.098 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.069 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:09:30.112 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:09:30.101 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data

    In other words, after switching from MSR to HE control, the problem continues, changing the error Throttled to ECONNREFUSED.

    Making a new test, returning to the MSR's NUTControl configuration below, with the same parameters as the HE drive.

      - id: nut
    enabled: true
    implementation: NUTController
    name: NUT UPS Controller
    config:
      server: 192.168.50.8  # modify the IP address as needed
      port: 3493            # optional, default shown
      username: "Reactor"   # optional, no user auth if not set
      password: "Mac1967"   # optional, must be specified if username is used

    The error.log log on MSR is:

    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.800Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.807Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.815Z <Controller:ERR> Controller NUTController#nut is off-line!
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:09.907Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:11.924Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:13.927Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:15.939Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:18.124Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:20.128Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:22.150Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:24.172Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:26.182Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]

    IMPORTANT, even with this error log, the NUT control in the MSR does not stop working, it persists until it manages to communicate and collect the data, but this error scenario overloads the MSR.

    Perhaps the time solution indicated by @tunnus could help.

    In addition, parts of the ro reactor.log:

    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.777Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 loading controller interface nut (NUTController)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.779Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v24303
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.779Z <Controller:INFO> Loaded NUTController version "0.1.24303"; Patrick Rigney/Kedron Holdings LLC <patrick@toggledbits.com> https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/NUTC>
[
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[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.847Z <Structure:INFO> Starting controller NUTController#nut
.
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[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.394Z <Engine:INFO> [Engine]Engine#1 master timer tick, local time "1/24/2025 9:06:47 PM" (TZ offset -300 mins from UTC)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.395Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.397Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitatC7 performing initial connection and inventory
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.398Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitatC8 performing initial connection and inventory
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.405Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.455Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.460Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:192.168.50.9
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller NUTController#nut is now online.
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.516Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:192.168.50.133
.
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.774Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.777Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.777Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
.
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.799Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.800Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.801Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.801Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.802Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.803Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.807Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.815Z <Controller:ERR> Controller NUTController#nut is off-line!
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.816Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.829Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.830Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)

    IN SUMMARY:

    • the connection parameters IP, login and password are correct, in the log you can see that it connects.
    • NUTControl works until it starts a sequence of failures.
    • In order to re-establish the service, I put a stop and start process in the crontab every 10 minutes, the problem is that it can remain idle all this time and fail.
    • I've tried changing all the synchronization and reading times in the NUT parameters, I've even increased them to 90 seconds for data collection(ie. POLLFREQALERT 30 // HOSTSYNC 30), and it doesn't change the scenario, at a certain point there's saturation and the UPS stops responding.2

    So I think the idea of making the MSR have a different collection time, longer than other devices, can at least reduce the error log, but it doesn't solve the problem.

    Thanks.

  • Throttled problem
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @tunnus hi!
    I like what I've read, I think it could be a solution, but it's still not very clear how to configure it, since I want to save various attributes of the device.
    I'll try it out and post the result here for you, but it could be a way forward.
    Thank you.

  • Throttled problem
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    Hi @toggledbits

    I found this very old post that talked about a way to limit device reading to avoid the throttled problem, because it's not a question of logic, it's that the device actually sends a lot of information, in my case the NUT ups installed in HE.

    https://smarthome.community/topic/687/flapping-device?_=1737652139854

    It mentions engine section of reactor.yaml by setting update_rate_limit, but I looked in the current MSR documentation and I can't find this information, so I don't know if it's still valid, its effect and parameters.

    My situation is simple, when I have a UPS problem the NUT is sending dozens of reports per second and then I have the throttled problem. The same rule applies when the power is normal.

    This is the rule, and the parameter that fails is the Tripp Lite UPS status.

    cf9ddabf-3144-4e5a-80a4-0dc7664b9573-image.png

    a813a077-974e-4737-897c-e383085b3d8f-image.png

    All error is the same scenario.

    [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.753Z <Rule:WARN> (13) NUT Disconected (rule-l4djr0p7 in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.756Z <Rule:WARN> (27) Falta de Energia (rule-l4h9ceod in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.769Z <Rule:WARN> (73) UPS Battery Low (rule-l4hj850o in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.772Z <Rule:WARN> (74) UPS Comm Fail (rule-l4kbs5cp in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttlin>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.776Z <Rule:WARN> (76) UPS Utility Back (rule-l4hjhs6m in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.780Z <Rule:WARN> UPS On Battery (rule-l4hjuka5 in Datacenter) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttling>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.781Z <Rule:WARN> UPS Info (rule-l4gheo63 in Datacenter) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttling...
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.757Z <Rule:WARN> (13) NUT Disconected (rule-l4djr0p7 in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.759Z <Rule:WARN> (27) Falta de Energia (rule-l4h9ceod in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.776Z <Rule:WARN> (73) UPS Battery Low (rule-l4hj850o in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.777Z <Rule:WARN> (74) UPS Comm Fail (rule-l4kbs5cp in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttlin>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.778Z <Rule:WARN> (76) UPS Utility Back (rule-l4hjhs6m in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>

    Thanks.

  • Log files
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits

    Friend Santa Claus, please take care of yourself, I'm changing my Christmas request so that you and yours are safe and well! Don't worry about my request.

    Thanks.

  • Log files
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits 🙂

    Instead of an icon in the widget, you could use the MSR Tools group to access these log files.

    Thanks

  • Log files
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits

    As always, you are very quick and attentive; thank you.

    The point I mentioned about Windget having an icon to open plain text would be to show the log file in a browser. To see this file today, I have to use PuTTY, log in to my VM, search for the directory, and then open the file with Nano.

    I wanted a faster way to view the file in a browser without having to install Apache or a Python SimpleHTTPServer.

    Thanks.

  • Log files
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    Hi!

    Is it possible to generate two additional log files, the first being the replica of what is displayed on screen by the Rule History widgets and the other with Recently Changed Entities?

    And could I configure the generation of one file per day, and delete the older ones? For example, store the last 5 days?

    And being more ambitious, does Windget have an icon to open these TXT files in the navigated?

    Well, we're approaching Christmas, so here's my request to Santa Claus @toggledbits 🙂

  • Rule Execution Sequence
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits I understood, and I really understand that since the shutdown command doesn't return anything, this scenario is invalid and will remain in a constant loop.

    Breaking the action as @tunnus commented doesn't work either, the effect is the same.

    Ok, I'll try something then, like triggering a script that gives a return to the Reactor so that it understands that it has completed the task to continue.

    Is there any chance that the shell command triggered by the reactor might not wait for a return to proceed?

    Thank you.

  • Rule Execution Sequence
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    Hi, @toggledbits!

    I have a question about the execution behavior. See the code below, and I'll explain the situation.

    12957c3e-ff06-46c9-929d-b53f936665df-image.png

    This is a routine that, at a certain point, determines that the desktop on which the VM hosting the Reactor is located receives an instruction to perform a shutdown (Shell Command).

    When this happens, the desktop is turned off, and then Hubitat detects by a "ping" that the VM has been down, waits 15 seconds, turns off the power to this desktop, and then 15 seconds later turns on the desktop with the Reactor VM again.

    After restarting the desktop, the VM is loaded, and the Reactor is triggered. Still, the following problem occurs: I expected that when the rule was continued to be executed again, the next step would be executed, that of the 900-second delay after shutdown, but the Shell command is executed again, and then it goes into a loop, the rule does not advance.

    To break the loop, I first have to make the VM not load, change the desktop password, and then start the VM. In this case, Reactor generates an error when trying to execute the Shell Command because of the invalid password and then finishes the routine following the 900 delay step.

    b58b0d4a-d6c1-4fe3-bab7-4222acea9607-image.png

    Is my interpretation that when it returns, the routine should continue to the next step that has not yet been executed incorrectly? Or does Reactor, through the shutdown command, interpret that it hasn't finished this step and keep trying, which is the correct reaction?

    Thanks for clarifying.

  • Widgets and filtering
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits I was thinking of the list of running tasks as "Set Rules", a simple way of having this query.

  • Widgets and filtering
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    Hi @toggledbits
    Is the wish list still open? Is this information that appears in widgets stored in some attribute/element that we can access to use in rules? Or even demonstrate for example in a dashboard in Hubitat?
    Thanks!

  • [RESOLVED] PSA for Hubitat 2.3.7.x upgrade
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    Just for the record, I have not been able to generate log evidence of the perception I have that there really is a failure in my rules, after the most recent updates (current version HE 2.3.7.141). I see that the delay has increased, or even rules have stopped responding, and I have to force the device to update the status. So, I disabled probe_device a long time ago, and I've enabled it again to see if it helps my perception. I'm still looking at the logs to see if I can detect anything. Thanks.

  • Help updating node.js for bare metal install
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    @toggledbits

    Super thanks for the master class!!!!

  • Help updating node.js for bare metal install
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    Well, I've just solved my problem, whether it's the right way or not I can't say, but it was brute force, I used the "which node" command, I located all the directories regardless of version and deleted them (rm node -r), this while being root. Then I did a fresh install 🙂 solved.

  • Help updating node.js for bare metal install
    wmarcolinW wmarcolin

    I think we all have a similar problem. My step-by-step was as follows.

    sudo apt remove nodejs
sudo apt remove npm
sudo apt autoremove

sudo apt purge nodejs
sudo apt purge npm
sudo apt autoremove

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install -y ca-certificates curl gnupg
sudo mkdir -p /etc/apt/keyrings
curl -fsSL https://deb.nodesource.com/gpgkey/nodesource-repo.gpg.key | sudo gpg --dearmor -o /etc/apt/keyrings/nodesource.gpg

NODE_MAJOR=20
echo "deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/nodesource.gpg] https://deb.nodesource.com/node_$NODE_MAJOR.x nodistro main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nodesource.list

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install nodejs -y

    Now comes the very rare story, if I'm not as toot I get this information.

    node -v
v20.10.0

npm -v
10.2.3

    PERFECT!!

    But after the su --, I become root and the version that comes is 12? and then I really don't understand. I did the tasks like this, as root and without root, in the same way.

    If any expert can help me understand this madness.

    Thanks.

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