Suggestion for MSR version 2 or 3.

In Tiggers and Reactions could have an Action by Category/Sub-Category, i.e., instead of having to select all door sensors one by one, if all are in the same group the action would be for all.

I believe there should be a panel similar to Enteries that would list all the devices based on the existing list (http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Luup_Device_Categories). The list would have this division and would show the name of all the devices, and it should be possible to select which device would be part of the action. I.e., I can have for example 10 window sensors, but I want only 5 to be part of the group action, I would deselect the other 5 for an independent control.

In Trigger and Reaction the selection would be as suggested Entety Group Action > a Category selector > and a Subcategory selector > binary_sensor.state (primary) TRUE or FALSE.

My suggestion is not to have to create an action like the one below.

Hi, I asked @toggledbits to reopen this very long thread, to give a testimony of a situation that I believe can help others.

I apologize for the long message, let's recapitulate the history.

The discussion was based on possible device limits on MSR actions, which Patrick explained there would not be, but the situation described was very similar to the scenario I posted in my message, of numerous failures on actions sent from MSR to Hubitat (December 16, 12:28am). That MSR was much faster than Hubitat could process.

I posted an example where I had to execute a series of Reactions that would turn on lights, and also turn on outlets, it always failed, I demonstrated that the MSR would activate everything, but Hubitat would not execute.

Then came the topic and orientation that my Hubitat should not be next to my WiFi router that could be interfering with the Hubitat signal, I even sent a picture on December 17 and provided the change %(#ff8000)[(TIP 1)].

Well obviously, as the change of position was big, I had to redo 3 times the entire mesh network, adding and removing devices. I followed the instruction of many masters, do the network from the center, i.e., from Hubitat to the outside, including first devices that use electric power because they are repeaters, and then those with exclusive battery power %(#ff8000)[(TIP 2)].

Well, our friend Patrick releases version 21351 and then 23360 where he adds much more aggressive management in the communication MSR x Hubitat, it improved a lot. But unfortunately, I kept having problems.

Then I asked for help again to go forward and see what to do to improve, we entered in the theme that several posts from the Hubitat community mentioned devices that use the S0 security, that this creates problems in the mesh network by high traffic of unnecessary information, new action remove and include again the devices that had S0 %(#ff8000)[(TIP 3)], another action that helped the network. What was not possible, we reactivated the Vera hub and put these devices back in, removing them from the Hubitat network.

We were evolving, but the situation persisted, actions that triggered many actions to Hubitat could still have failures, and the worst actions using Hubitat's own dashboard were also not being executed.

Well, I returned to the discussion of when I changed the Vera to Hubitat, which highlighted several points of change, but one very bothered me, the Hubitat Z-Wave signal, much weaker than the vera (https://smarthome.community/topic/776/switching-from-vera-to-hubitat/9?_=1644189698709).

Well 4 days ago (2/2), moved by the courage I opened my Hubitat and followed the post (https://community.hubitat.com/t/external-antenna/81396/28) %(#ff8000)[(TIP 4)], and installed an external antenna for z-wave, here I show that I bought and installed (https://community.hubitat.com/t/elevation-c7-possible-faulty-z-wave-radio/52977/91). In this post the discussion started with the theme S0 and S2, and went into the antenna theme.

MY TESTIMONY OF WHAT HAPPENED

A revolution, my Hubitat got a new life, it is another equipment:

• Before I had 15 direct devices in the hub, today after 4 days there are already 36 of 64, and I see that every day is increasing as the network is being restructured. There was the absurdity of equipment in the same environment as the HE, but behind a column, using two other devices to reach the HE that was less than 4 meters away, now communicates directly;
• There was almost no equipment that communicated at 100kbps, most were between 9.6 and 40, now most are already 100, and a small number, 5/64 are at 9.6 kbps;
• Remember the thing where I had to turn on several lights and power outlets all together? it didn't fail anymore, as the devices speak better and faster like the HE, I don't see this failure anymore;
• I also talked about actions commanded by the Dashboard that the device did not respond to, it is not happening anymore either.

In summary, in my case that 3/4 of the devices are not repeaters, they use batteries, my z-wave mesh network had a lack of repeaters, and this generated a generalized degradation. Now, with this better signal, if not eliminated the problem, I reduced it to almost zero.

Now pay attention, the operation of putting up the external antenna seems simple, but it is not. The antenna connector that is soldered to the board is very small and difficult to handle. So if you go this way, look for a cell phone repair shop, they will surely have the best technique for this change.

Thank you, and sorry again for the long message.

@gwp1 maybe this can help if you still have a problem. Your tip to move the HE away from the Wifi was also precious, thank you.

@SweetGenius your comment that there might be an overwhelming in the hub was correct, the action_pace action was a help, but the signal improvement I describe was the solution when I have a more fast response of the devices, reducing the overwhelm. Thanks.

@toggledbits our last messages, before I wanted to incinerate Hubitat, also helped a lot on the way. Thank you for all your dedication.

@droy last week I changed all notification types to a Telegram BOT, it works great, fast and simple.

@akbooer I am using an ESP32 with a water passage valve, which generates pulses, and thus controlling the water flow in my house, measuring with a small margin of error of liters, but it is very close to what the company that supplies it charges me.

Hi!

I've only been using MSR for 3 days, so I'm too much of a beginner to have opinions, but I want to try to collaborate:

1. First thanks to @cw-kid , with the simple tip of the installation page in the manual, I finally managed to take the step and install it on Windows 10. I see some comments on automatic startup, it was simple to put in the task scheduler a bat to run the "node app.js", and works very well on computer restarts. Now I did not understand why the instruction "Running Reactor Continuously" with the command "nohup ./app.sh &", what is the difference?

2. Regarding the Constraints question, I don't see much value, or don't know how to use them. I thought that if we first have the obligation to meet the Constraints (e.g. be in home mode and time between 8am and 5pm), only then do we start evaluating the Triggers (e.g. movement in room, open door...) it would make more sense to me. That is Constraints as a basic obligation, and Triggers in the next group of the variables of the action. Right now I'm thinking of putting everything in the Triggers block.

As I commented I only have 3 days, but I already see that Patrick @toggledbits again doing an exceptional job, if the Reactor was already great, I do not know how to classify what will be the MSR by the little I've seen. What I see for the future:

3. A translation will be needed in the selectors of so many technical terms, for a more fluent, layman-friendly message. An example FROM x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_SecuritySensor1.Tripped TO only Tripped;

4. A dashboard unique to the Rule Sets. What you have today allows us to turn on/off, edit, reset... I think of something simple and straightforward like the Action Icon (I love the Reactor icon), green color on, yellow already have conditions met and could go into execution, and red in execution. It would be a dashboard for easier visualization on the phone. If you can then configure that shows or not would be great, who knows version 3, 4....;

And sorry this may not be the forum, but reading the posts I see a strong tendency to recommend the use of the Docker container. Is there a real difference in usage with respect to having the Windows 10 installation? Are there performance issues? Any functions that will not operate well? Is the communication between HA and the computer running Windows 10 worse? I see on the Vera panel that a device changes condition to unTrigger, and it takes quite a while to see the reaction on the MSR, is there a difference between container and windows?

Once again my many thanks to everyone for the work being done, I finally see a light in not depending on hardware to be able to have good automation at home, in a simpler way. As many have commented, soon Vera will be just a radio antenna

I had forgotten one very important thing, if possible now, that "Reset Reaction" can copy the "Set Reaction" actions from the same rule sets. It will help a lot to configure to turn off several lights that were on before.

After much trying and error, I found which attribute to use, and the problem was solved. Thanks @rafale77 and @toggledbits for the tips. Now it opens a universe of new toys to put in my automation, increasing the information.

@toggledbits YOU ARE A GENIUS!

Direct command is not to the device, it is to ZWave#1

Another case closed for Super Patrick!!! Now fun for me, after 3 years I get rid of the ugly way of using the scenes to mediate the configuration of the bells.

@toggledbits

Surely in an election between all users, this is the most important "a tool to see where I'm using an entity, as trigger or condition". You have already explained before the difficulty, and that the effective use of a DB would help this crossing of information, but the cost of the DB is still high and can sacrifice a lot of the system.

One day you will find a way to #1 MSR request.

I would add one more request, that I have commented on before and I am sure you have in your notebook of improvements for the future. In the home screen, the same way you have the Recently Changed Entities board, a board that can show the history of what happens in the Set Rules, so it would be possible to follow the last actions.

And again and repeat "Thanks for the hard work @toggledbits" !

@toggledbits testing!

Perfect removed the indicated

  source: 'http://192.168.33.6:3480'
  filter_entity:
    device_15: true
    device_6: true
    device_13: true

Ok, kept only the informed one that had to stay, removed all the others.

  source: 'http://192.168.33.6:3480'
  accept_entity:
    device_9: true

Thank you very much!

@catmanv2

Aqara FP1

@akbooer

Third-party code, using Arduino I uploaded the code to program the WiFi on the board, and then installed the drives on Hubitat, very simple and fast.

The part that was a little more complicated was the tuning of the valve, I used another digital meter for the initial reading and then adjusted in a simple way the conversion from pulses to liters that appears in Hubitat.

(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007NHS9M4?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)

Finally, I generated the device for the MSR, and then the world of play started, all exported to influxDb and Graphana.

@toggledbits and @gwp1 THANKS!!!!

Merry Christmas/Holidays! or
Feliz Natal/Festas!
¡Feliz Navidad/Festividades!

Teacher @toggledbits , thanks for the lesson, problem solved.

@droy

I have just integrated Alexa to Hubitat, very simple to do. First add the APP to Hubitat, then search in the App top right corner, the video that very simply explains how to do the integration. Easy and fast.

Thanks

@cw-kid this comment about having the letters bot in front is already added by MSR, we have to be careful, because when we copy the ID when it is generated in Telegram it comes with these letters bot in front that has to be removed when configuring. I had the same problem until I identified this in the log appearing twice botbot.

Hi,

I have already commented on the other forum that my VeraPlus was saved from an incinerator or the tires of my car a few times, thanks to Reactor, and gained new life with MSR, so Patrick you know that you have in my person a collaborator (with limitations of technical knowledge), but a person who likes to explore and especially give suggestions that help users.

But, in my humble opinion, I will not make the mistake of buying an eZLO, I am seriously considering investing now in a Hubitat because I am tired of my VeraPlus being incompatible with any ZegBee or other devices with S2. The eZLO developers should follow the same line of not listening to the 3PP, the independent developers, and go back to repeating Vera's mistakes in my opinion.

This way I recognize your huge effort for the HA community, I am sure you have done a lot but in this new eZLO endeavor I will not be able to help, count me full on MSR for VeraPlus and Hubitat.

@librasun looks like you have some interesting expressions, like this one at the timestamp

Can you share the full screen for us to look at? And of course use good ideas

And your last comment is very good, we can find each other, but to reproduce and explain is another story