Good morning,
I have a service MQTT service that needs a restart occasionally. The add-on (Smartbed MQTT) is for the smart bed base for my bed. It has a "safety light" that I can control from HAAS & MSR as a light entity, and also moves the head of the bed to a preset at bedtime, and then lies it back flat in the morning The problem is, from time to time, the light becomes "unavailable" Restarting from the Add-ons tab in HAAS always fixes it, but I should be able to detect when it happens when "light.tempur_pedic_safety_lights" is not true or false, i.e., unavailable.
What I don't know how to do is how to restart that service. Does anybody have experience in restarting add-ons from MSR?
Running:
Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-24212-3ce15e25 ZWaveJSController [0.1.24232]HAAS:
RPi5-64 (8GB) Core 2024.7.3 Supervisor 2024.08.0 Operating System 13.0 Frontend 20240710.0Hi!
Is it possible to generate two additional log files, the first being the replica of what is displayed on screen by the Rule History widgets and the other with Recently Changed Entities?
And could I configure the generation of one file per day, and delete the older ones? For example, store the last 5 days?
And being more ambitious, does Windget have an icon to open these TXT files in the navigated?
Well, we're approaching Christmas, so here's my request to Santa Claus @toggledbits 🙂
Hi @toggledbits
I'm working on a controller to generate llm response from a prompt in reactor. I have http response coming thru an http request action at the moment, capturing the response inside a local variable. So, it's practically sync.
I want to create a controller, so I don't have to rely on a proxy (and have a simpler architecture), and duplicate absurd http actions, but AFAIK in the current implementation, actions are async only. But if I have multiple requests going on, I cannot be sure what it's really inside an attribute. I also thought that something like a correlation id when sending the request could be used to identity multiple responses, but I wanted to double check with you before starting with something too complicated. I also noticed that some actions in home assistant (ie forecast) are sync and I'm wondering if you have any plan or hint to address this situation. Thanks.
Thanks.
@togglebits I am curious as to why the tilt_sensor.state (primary) = NULL. I believe it should show true or false. I have to use binary_sensor.state instead in my rules.
Again, not sure if this is related to Reactor/ZwaveJSController implementation or the actual Z-Wave JS UI docker version. I have copied, below, the attributes of the tilt sensor in hopes it can help.
Thanks in advance.
Reactor version 23302
ZWaveJSController version 23254
Z-Wave JS UI version 9.3.0.724519f
zwave-js version 12.2.3
@toggledbits I have noticed after upgrading both Reactor and ZWaveJSController to version 24257 that two of my devices/entities, TILT-ZWAVE2.5-ECO and Zooz ZSE18, had their entity re-named in an unusual way and also appears to be duplicated.
Reactor version 24257
ZWaveJSController version 24257
Z-Wave JS UI version 9.18.1
zwave-js version 13.2.0
Vestibule Motion Sensor State attributes/partial screenshot of entities it created. All entities have the same attributes.
motion_sensor.state=true x_zwave_values.Notification_Home_Security_Motion_sensor_status=8 zwave_device.capabilities=[113] zwave_device.endpoint=0 zwave_device.failed=null zwave_device.manufacturer_info=null zwave_device.node_id=23 zwave_device.valueId=[113,"Notification","Home Security","Home Security","Motion sensor status","Motion sensor status"] zwave_device.version_info=nullTilt Sensor Door State and Tilt Sensor Door State Simple attributes/partial screenshot of entities it created. All entities have similar attributes with exception of x_zwave_values.Notification_Access_Control_Door_State = 22 or 23.
tilt_sensor.state=true x_zwave_values.Notification_Access_Control_Door_state=22 zwave_device.capabilities=[113] zwave_device.endpoint=0 zwave_device.failed=null zwave_device.manufacturer_info=null zwave_device.node_id=24 zwave_device.valueId=[113,"Notification","Access Control","Access Control","Door state","Door state"] zwave_device.version_info=null tilt_sensor.state=true x_zwave_values.Notification_Access_Control_Door_state_simple=22 zwave_device.capabilities=[113] zwave_device.endpoint=0 zwave_device.failed=null zwave_device.manufacturer_info=null zwave_device.node_id=24 zwave_device.valueId=[113,"Notification","Access Control","Access Control","Door state (simple)","Door state (simple)"] zwave_device.version_info=null tilt_sensor.state=false x_zwave_values.Notification_Access_Control_Door_state=23 zwave_device.capabilities=[113] zwave_device.endpoint=0 zwave_device.failed=null zwave_device.manufacturer_info=null zwave_device.node_id=24 zwave_device.valueId=[113,"Notification","Access Control","Access Control","Door state","Door state"] zwave_device.version_info=null tilt_sensor.state=false x_zwave_values.Notification_Access_Control_Door_state_simple=23 zwave_device.capabilities=[113] zwave_device.endpoint=0 zwave_device.failed=null zwave_device.manufacturer_info=null zwave_device.node_id=24 zwave_device.valueId=[113,"Notification","Access Control","Access Control","Door state (simple)","Door state (simple)"] zwave_device.version_info=nullI'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only).
Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package:
Contrib MQTT templates for Reactor. Contribute to dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib development by creating an account on GitHub.
Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go.
I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them.
The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression.
Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests 🙂
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.
Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.Hi @toggledbits.
After a couple of weeks, I noticed that my Remotec zrc90 isn't working as expected.
Scenes are working in ZWaveJS, but this device has a strange behavior: the scene change, but then it's set again to null. In Reactor, this remains null:
battery_power.level=0.7 battery_power.since=1725817957361 x_debug.dt={"description":"Scene master 8 button remote","model":"BW8510/ZRC-90US","default_name":"Scene master 8 button remote","manufacturerId":21076,"productType":0,"productId":34064} x_zwave_values.Battery_isLow=false x_zwave_values.Battery_level=70 x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_001=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_002=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_003=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_004=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_005=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_006=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_007=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_008=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_slowRefresh=null x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_manufacturerId=21076 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_productId=34064 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_productType=1 x_zwave_values.Version_firmwareVersions=["1.1","1.1"] x_zwave_values.Version_hardwareVersion=3 x_zwave_values.Version_libraryType=2 x_zwave_values.Version_protocolVersion="4.5" x_zwave_values.Wake_Up_controllerNodeId=1 x_zwave_values.Wake_Up_wakeUpInterval=0 zwave_device.capabilities=[91,114,128,132,134] zwave_device.endpoint=0 zwave_device.failed=false zwave_device.generic_class="Remote Controller" zwave_device.impl_sig="24242:1:22315:1" zwave_device.is_beaming=false zwave_device.is_listening=false zwave_device.is_routing=false zwave_device.is_secure=false zwave_device.manufacturer_info=[21076,1,34064] zwave_device.max_data_rate=null zwave_device.node_id=154 zwave_device.specific_class="Simple Remote Control" zwave_device.status=2 zwave_device.status_text="awake" zwave_device.version_info=[null,"1.1"] zwave_device.wakeup_interval=0Anything I could look at? Thanks.
Hi, @toggledbits!
I have a question about the execution behavior. See the code below, and I'll explain the situation.
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This is a routine that, at a certain point, determines that the desktop on which the VM hosting the Reactor is located receives an instruction to perform a shutdown (Shell Command).
When this happens, the desktop is turned off, and then Hubitat detects by a "ping" that the VM has been down, waits 15 seconds, turns off the power to this desktop, and then 15 seconds later turns on the desktop with the Reactor VM again.
After restarting the desktop, the VM is loaded, and the Reactor is triggered. Still, the following problem occurs: I expected that when the rule was continued to be executed again, the next step would be executed, that of the 900-second delay after shutdown, but the Shell command is executed again, and then it goes into a loop, the rule does not advance.
To break the loop, I first have to make the VM not load, change the desktop password, and then start the VM. In this case, Reactor generates an error when trying to execute the Shell Command because of the invalid password and then finishes the routine following the 900 delay step.
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Is my interpretation that when it returns, the routine should continue to the next step that has not yet been executed incorrectly? Or does Reactor, through the shutdown command, interpret that it hasn't finished this step and keep trying, which is the correct reaction?
Thanks for clarifying.
Hi @toggledbits ,
I'm slowly moving my ZWave network from Vera to ZWaveJS. I successfully cloned my ZWave network using a spare Vera Edge (a new post for the community later when I'll be fully back from vacation) and I'm testing a couple of things before moving everything to ZWaveJS.
In the meanwhile, I have a couple of venetian blinds connected to Fibaro Roller Shutters 2 (FGR222) and I'm using some proprietary ZWave commands to control the tilt position, that right now I'm sending via Vera (with some code from the old place, messing with this):
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The ZWaveJS values are reported via this:
x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Proprietary_fibaro_venetianBlindsPosition=0 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Proprietary_fibaro_venetianBlindsTilt=0I hope there's a way to expose a separate device to control the tilt position directly, without doing the mess I'm doing now. Let me know if you need some files. Thanks.
As per @toggledbits request, new topic.
Position and cover commands not working and position/cover attributes are incorrect. Dimming is OK.
cover.state=null dimming.level=1 dimming.step=0.1 energy_sensor.units="kWh" energy_sensor.value=0.41 position.value=null power_sensor.units="W" power_sensor.value=0 power_switch.state=true x_debug.dt={"entity_class":"Cover","match":"deviceClass.generic.key=17;deviceClass.specific.key=6","capabilities":["cover","toggle","position"],"primary_attribute":"cover.state"} x_zwave_values.Meter_reset=null x_zwave_values.Meter_value_65537=0.41 x_zwave_values.Meter_value_66049=0 x_zwave_values.Multilevel_Switch_Down=null x_zwave_values.Multilevel_Switch_Up=null x_zwave_values.Multilevel_Switch_currentValue=99 x_zwave_values.Multilevel_Switch_duration="unknown" x_zwave_values.Multilevel_Switch_restorePrevious=null x_zwave_values.Multilevel_Switch_targetValue=99 x_zwave_values.Notification_Power_Management_Over_current_status=0 x_zwave_values.Notification_System_Hardware_status=0 x_zwave_values.Notification_alarmLevel=null x_zwave_values.Notification_alarmType=null zwave_device.capabilities=[38,50,113] zwave_device.endpoint=1 zwave_device.failed=null zwave_device.impl_sig="24225:1:22315:1" zwave_device.manufacturer_info=null zwave_device.node_id=148 zwave_device.version_info=nullThanks!
Another one for you, @toggledbits.
I have two water sensors (same device, NAS-WS01Z), but one is reporting leak_detector.state=true even if no alarm is detected (I double checked from ZWaveJS UI):
battery_power.level=0.86 battery_power.since=null leak_detector.state=true x_debug.dt={"entity_class":"Notification Sensor","match":"deviceClass.generic.key=7"} x_zwave_values.Battery_isLow=false x_zwave_values.Battery_level=86 x_zwave_values.Binary_Sensor_Water=false x_zwave_values.Configuration_Alarm_Activity_Duration=5 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Alarm_Beep=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Alarm_Duration=120 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Alarm_Interval=null x_zwave_values.Configuration_Basic_Set_Level=255 x_zwave_values.Configuration_First_Alarm_Activity_Duration=null x_zwave_values.Configuration_Water_Detection=1 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_manufacturerId=600 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_productId=4229 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_productType=3 x_zwave_values.Notification_Water_Alarm_Sensor_status=null x_zwave_values.Notification_alarmLevel=0 x_zwave_values.Notification_alarmType=0 x_zwave_values.Version_firmwareVersions=null x_zwave_values.Version_hardwareVersion=null x_zwave_values.Version_libraryType=null x_zwave_values.Version_protocolVersion=null x_zwave_values.Wake_Up_controllerNodeId=1 x_zwave_values.Wake_Up_wakeUpInterval=43200 zwave_device.capabilities=[48,112,113,114,128,132,134] zwave_device.endpoint=0 zwave_device.failed=false zwave_device.generic_class="Notification Sensor" zwave_device.impl_sig="24225:1:22315:1" zwave_device.is_beaming=false zwave_device.is_listening=false zwave_device.is_routing=true zwave_device.is_secure=false zwave_device.last_wakeup=1724143899220 zwave_device.manufacturer_info=[600,3,4229] zwave_device.max_data_rate=null zwave_device.node_id=114 zwave_device.specific_class="Notification Sensor" zwave_device.status=1 zwave_device.status_text="asleep" zwave_device.version_info=[null,null] zwave_device.wakeup_interval=43200here's the other one, correctly report the leak status:
battery_power.level=1 battery_power.since=null leak_detector.state=false x_debug.dt={"entity_class":"Notification Sensor","match":"deviceClass.generic.key=7"} x_zwave_values.Battery_isLow=false x_zwave_values.Battery_level=100 x_zwave_values.Binary_Sensor_Water=false x_zwave_values.Configuration_Alarm_Activity_Duration=5 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Alarm_Beep=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Alarm_Duration=120 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Alarm_Interval=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Basic_Set_Level=255 x_zwave_values.Configuration_First_Alarm_Activity_Duration=60 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Water_Detection=1 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_manufacturerId=600 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_productId=4229 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_productType=3 x_zwave_values.Notification_Water_Alarm_Sensor_status=0 x_zwave_values.Notification_alarmLevel=null x_zwave_values.Notification_alarmType=null x_zwave_values.Version_firmwareVersions=["2.54"] x_zwave_values.Version_hardwareVersion=48 x_zwave_values.Version_libraryType=6 x_zwave_values.Version_protocolVersion="4.5" x_zwave_values.Wake_Up_controllerNodeId=1 x_zwave_values.Wake_Up_wakeUpInterval=43200 zwave_device.capabilities=[48,112,113,114,128,132,134] zwave_device.endpoint=0 zwave_device.failed=false zwave_device.generic_class="Notification Sensor" zwave_device.impl_sig="24225:1:22315:1" zwave_device.is_beaming=false zwave_device.is_listening=false zwave_device.is_routing=true zwave_device.is_secure=false zwave_device.last_wakeup=1724105239533 zwave_device.manufacturer_info=[600,3,4229] zwave_device.max_data_rate=null zwave_device.node_id=113 zwave_device.specific_class="Notification Sensor" zwave_device.status=1 zwave_device.status_text="asleep" zwave_device.version_info=[null,"2.54"] zwave_device.wakeup_interval=43200Also, both seems to have no primary value. Thanks.
Hi-
I have an android media player entity publishing from HA. I watch for changes in transport state and media title to trigger some actions.
Though those attributes report as expected, the set rule is being throttled for possible flapping.
There is an attribute for media position that continually updates, I suspect it is causing the evaluations to run constantly.
The workaround I am seeking is to ignore those attributes in HA or MSR. Anyone know how, or have a better idea??
Thx
Btw- this problem has spanned versions of HA and reactor, but I am current on both. Too current on HA for transparency, but the issue has survived several updates.
Referencing an expression inside a reaction is in the form of ${{ expression }}. When referenced inside my shell command to set the watering delay duration for my Rachio sprinkler system, it just does not work.
If I enter "86400" instead of referencing the expression lWateringDelayDuration, it works. Either I am doing something wrong or referencing an expression inside a shell command is not supported.
Reactor version: 24212
Local Expression
lWateringDelayDuration =
Setting Reaction using Shell command
curl -X PUT -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Authorization: Bearer xxxxxxxxxx -d '{ "id" : "xxxxxxxxxx", "duration" : ${{ lWateringDelayDuration}} }' https://api.rach.io/1/public/device/rain_delayThanks in advance
As per @toggledbits request, here's a new topic.
My Fibaro Door Window Sensor 2 (FGDW002) is always reporting as open, even if
x_zwave_values.Notification_Access_Control_Door_state=23 x_zwave_values.Notification_Access_Control_Door_state_simple=23which means that the door is closed. It was working before and I could downgrade to test, if necessary. Thanks.
Hi @toggledbits,
I'm not sure if it's a bug or something, but I have a lot of Fibaro Double Switch (FGS223) as follows.
In the example, it's zwavejs>65-2:
energy_sensor.units="kWh" energy_sensor.value=0.21 power_sensor.units="W" power_sensor.value=0 power_switch.state=false x_debug.dt={"entity_class":"Switch","match":"deviceClass.generic.key=16","capabilities":["power_switch","toggle"],"primary_attribute":"power_switch.state"} x_zwave_values.Binary_Switch_currentValue=false x_zwave_values.Binary_Switch_targetValue=false x_zwave_values.Meter_reset=null x_zwave_values.Meter_value_65537=0.21 x_zwave_values.Meter_value_66049=0 zwave_device.capabilities=[37,50] zwave_device.endpoint=2 zwave_device.failed=null zwave_device.impl_sig="23326:1:22315:1" zwave_device.manufacturer_info=null zwave_device.node_id=65 zwave_device.version_info=nullWhen operating endpoint 2, it's triggered endpoint 1. Endpoint 1 is fine. This is causing a lot of troubles, as you may imagine.
Also, endpoint 0 is not really a switch, and the associated actions are not doing anything at all. Maybe these could be removed. Also, I see battery_maintenance and power_source capabilities, all with null values.
battery_maintenance.charging=null battery_maintenance.rechargeable=false battery_maintenance.replace=false battery_maintenance.state=null heat_detector.state=false power_source.source=null power_switch.state=null x_debug.dt={"entity_class":"Switch","match":"deviceClass.generic.key=16","capabilities":["power_switch","toggle"],"primary_attribute":"power_switch.state","description":"Double Switch 2","model":"FGS223","default_name":"Double Switch 2","manufacturerId":271,"productType":515,"productId":4096} x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_001=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_scene_002=null x_zwave_values.Central_Scene_slowRefresh=null x_zwave_values.Configuration_First_Channel_Energy_Reports_Threshold=100 x_zwave_values.Configuration_First_Channel_Operating_Mode=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_First_Channel_Power_Reports_Minimum_Time_Between_Reports=10 x_zwave_values.Configuration_First_Channel_Power_Reports_Threshold=20 x_zwave_values.Configuration_First_Channel_Pulse_Time_for_Blink_Mode=5 x_zwave_values.Configuration_First_Channel_Reaction_to_Key_S1_for_Delay_Auto_ON_OFF_Modes=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_First_Channel_Time_Parameter_for_Delay_Auto_ON_OFF_Modes=50 x_zwave_values.Configuration_General_Purpose_Alarm_Response=3 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Include_Consumption_By_Device_Itself_in_Reports=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Input_Button_Switch_Configuration=2 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Associations_Double_Click_Value_Sent=99 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Associations_Send_OFF_With_Single_Click_2=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Associations_Send_ON_With_Single_Click_1=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Associations_Send_When_Double_Clicking_8=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Associations_Send_When_Holding_and_Releasing_4=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Associations_Switch_OFF_Value_Sent=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Associations_Switch_ON_Value_Sent=255 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Send_Scenes_When_Held_Down_and_Released_8=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Send_Scenes_When_Pressed_1_Time_1=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Send_Scenes_When_Pressed_2_Times_2=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S1_Send_Scenes_When_Pressed_3_Times_4=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Associations_Double_Click_Value_Sent=99 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Associations_Send_OFF_With_Single_Click_2=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Associations_Send_ON_With_Single_Click_1=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Associations_Send_When_Double_Clicking_8=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Associations_Send_When_Holding_and_Releasing_4=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Associations_Switch_OFF_Value_Sent=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Associations_Switch_ON_Value_Sent=255 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Send_Scenes_When_Held_Down_and_Released_8=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Send_Scenes_When_Pressed_1_Time_1=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Send_Scenes_When_Pressed_2_Times_2=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Key_S2_Send_Scenes_When_Pressed_3_Times_4=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Periodic_Active_Power_Reports=3600 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Periodic_Energy_Reports=3600 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Report_During_Blink_Mode=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Second_Channel_Energy_Reports_Threshold=100 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Second_Channel_Operating_Mode=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Second_Channel_Power_Reports_Minimum_Time_Between_Reports=10 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Second_Channel_Power_Reports_Threshold=20 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Second_Channel_Pulse_Time_for_Blink_Mode=5 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Second_Channel_Reaction_to_Key_S2_for_Delay_Auto_ON_OFF_Modes=0 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Second_Channel_Time_Parameter_for_Delay_Auto_ON_OFF_Modes=50 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Send_Secure_Commands_to_2nd_Association_Group_1=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Send_Secure_Commands_to_3rd_Association_Group_2=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Send_Secure_Commands_to_4th_Association_Group_4=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Send_Secure_Commands_to_5th_Association_Group_8=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Smoke_CO_or_CO2_Alarm_Response=3 x_zwave_values.Configuration_State_After_Power_Failure=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Temperature_Alarm_Response=1 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Time_of_Alarm_State=600 x_zwave_values.Configuration_Water_Flood_Alarm_Response=2 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_manufacturerId=271 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_productId=4096 x_zwave_values.Manufacturer_Specific_productType=515 x_zwave_values.Notification_Heat_Alarm_Heat_sensor_status=0 x_zwave_values.Notification_Power_Management_Over_current_status=0 x_zwave_values.Notification_alarmLevel=null x_zwave_values.Notification_alarmType=null x_zwave_values.Protection_exclusiveControlNodeId=null x_zwave_values.Protection_local=0 x_zwave_values.Protection_rf=0 x_zwave_values.Protection_timeout=null x_zwave_values.Version_firmwareVersions=["3.2"] x_zwave_values.Version_hardwareVersion=3 x_zwave_values.Version_libraryType=3 x_zwave_values.Version_protocolVersion="4.5" zwave_device.capabilities=[91,112,113,114,117,134] zwave_device.endpoint=0 zwave_device.failed=false zwave_device.generic_class="Binary Switch" zwave_device.impl_sig="23326:1:22315:1" zwave_device.is_beaming=false zwave_device.is_listening=true zwave_device.is_routing=true zwave_device.is_secure=false zwave_device.manufacturer_info=[271,515,4096] zwave_device.max_data_rate=null zwave_device.node_id=65 zwave_device.specific_class="Binary Power Switch" zwave_device.status=4 zwave_device.status_text="alive" zwave_device.version_info=[null,"3.2"]Thanks.
Good morning,
I'm having an issue with controlling my Zooz Zen14 outdoor double outlet. I should be able to control each outlet individually, and this does work when use Home Assistant (haas) from Reactor.
When I use zwavejs, I see 3 entries:
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The first entry is for the overall device. I can turn both outlets on and off (in theory) by setting the power_switch state to on or off. This does turn them on and off when using zwavejs.
When I go to the individual outlets, performing the power_switch.on or power_switch.off actions turns them all (main, 1 and 2) on or off, and not just the individual outlets. When I perform the same action from haas, turning on outlet 1 will turn on the main switch and 1, but not 2.
I reviewed the logs for that node and I'm not seeing anything obvious.
:~/reactor/logs$ cat reactor.log.1 | grep ZWaveJSController#zwavejs | grep "node 216" [latest-24212]2024-08-07T00:19:00.233Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs update node 216 value "0:37:targetValue:" data [Object]{ "source": "node", "event": "value updated", "nodeId": 216, "args": { "commandClassName": "Binary Switch", "commandClass": 37, "endpoint": 0, "property": "targetValue", "newValue": true, "prevValue": false, "propertyName": "targetValue" } } [latest-24212]2024-08-07T00:19:00.235Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs update node 216 value "0:37:currentValue:" data [Object]{ "source": "node", "event": "value updated", "nodeId": 216, "args": { "commandClassName": "Binary Switch", "commandClass": 37, "property": "currentValue", "endpoint": 0, "newValue": true, "prevValue": false, "propertyName": "currentValue" } } [latest-24212]2024-08-07T00:19:00.321Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs update node 216 value "0:37:currentValue:" data [Object]{ "source": "node", "event": "value updated", "nodeId": 216, "args": { "commandClassName": "Binary Switch", "commandClass": 37, "property": "currentValue", "endpoint": 0, "newValue": true, "prevValue": true, "propertyName": "currentValue" } } [latest-24212]2024-08-07T00:19:00.322Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs update node 216 value "0:37:targetValue:" data [Object]{ "source": "node", "event": "value updated", "nodeId": 216, "args": { "commandClassName": "Binary Switch", "commandClass": 37, "property": "targetValue", "endpoint": 0, "newValue": true, "prevValue": true, "propertyName": "targetValue" } } [latest-24212]2024-08-07T00:19:00.323Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs update node 216 value "0:37:duration:" data [Object]{ "source": "node", "event": "value updated", "nodeId": 216, "args": { "commandClassName": "Binary Switch", "commandClass": 37, "property": "duration", "endpoint": 0, "newValue": { "value": 0, "unit": "seconds" }, "prevValue": { "value": 0, "unit": "seconds" }, "propertyName": "duration" } } [latest-24212]2024-08-07T00:19:02.189Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs update node 216 value "1:37:currentValue:" data [Object]{ "source": "node", "event": "value updated", "nodeId": 216, "args": { "commandClassName": "Binary Switch", "commandClass": 37, "property": "currentValue", "endpoint": 1, "newValue": true, "prevValue": false, "propertyName": "currentValue" } } [latest-24212]2024-08-07T00:19:02.192Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs update node 216 value "1:37:targetValue:" data [Object]{ "source": "node", "event": "value updated", "nodeId": 216, "args": { "commandClassName": "Binary Switch", "commandClass": 37, "property": "targetValue", "endpoint": 1, "newValue": true, "prevValue": false, "propertyName": "targetValue" } } [latest-24212]2024-08-07T00:19:02.193Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs update node 216 value "1:37:duration:" data [Object]{ "source": "node", "event": "value updated", "nodeId": 216, "args": { "commandClassName": "Binary Switch", "commandClass": 37, "property": "duration", "endpoint": 1, "newValue": { "value": 0, "unit": "seconds" }, "prevValue": { "value": 0, "unit": "seconds" }, "propertyName": "duration" } } [latest-24212]2024-08-07T05:32:30.127Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs configuring node 216 endpoint 0 (entity "216-0") [latest-24212]2024-08-07T05:32:30.127Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs configuring node 216 endpoint 1 (entity "216-1") [latest-24212]2024-08-07T05:32:30.128Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs configuring node 216 endpoint 2 (entity "216-2")I'm running:
Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-24212-3ce15e25
ZWaveJSController [0.1.23326] (with zwavejs_data from 7/25/2024)
HA:
Core 2024.7.3
Supervisor 2024.08.0
Operating System 12.3
Frontend 20240710.0
Approach to Rulesets, a philosophic question
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Having just embarrassed myself to @toggledbits by asserting that the latest release somehow had a bug when in reality it was surfacing underlying issues with my approach to building out my rulesets and automations I wanted to ask the collective for their feedback on how they've designed their rulesets.
For me, I built out a list of Global Reactions that I commonly use. For instance, for mode changes I typically change the mode entity and write that mode to a variable for some future use. When building out a ruleset I just pull in that Global Reaction vs manually recreating the entity list as my ruleset Reaction. Example, for lighting:
Each of these contains the appropriate group of lights to turn on/off, etc.
I also have what I've dubbed my "Armed for..." rulesets. These are rulesets that can be referenced as true or false in other rulesets. Example, for my various lighting configurations in and out of the house I have these:
I think this is resulting in reactions stomping on other reactions creating race conditions that result in things looking like they're working when, in reality, they're one restart away from disaster.
So how are you all designing your superstructure, if you will, at a high level?
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I'm pretty much doing the same thing you are. Where these "Armed For" rules and the global reactions are used, I try to keep things as simple as possible. One trap I think people (myself included) get into is this notion that all actions have to done in one place for a specific event. For me, I like to spread the logic out in a lot of small rules, particularly because Reactor lets me enable and disable rules, so when rules are small and well-defined, if something is acting up during my implementation of some logic, I can turn a rule off (particularly if its causing problems for a device, like turning it on and off rapidly). It's easy for me to have a clear picture of conditions for each circumstance, as well.
Another thing that arose of the other discussion is that Reactor (MSR) is highly concurrent, meaning it can do a lot of things at once. This is unlike R4V, where things were pretty much single-threaded by the constraints of the OS and its plugin framework. That means a rule reaction that starts a global reaction will cause the two reactions to run concurrently. If one reaction has to wait for an action to complete (i.e. hub to tell it the command was received), the other action runs. And in fact, it's also possible that the action(s) completed thus far can cause a rule to be triggered -- rule evaluation is also eligible to be started in the "idle" time. That introduces the possibility that a rule could run during an interstitial state of another rule's actions -- work isn't done, but another rule kicks in. I think this was part of your problem -- rules need to be very tightly defined in these circumstances to prevent mis-firing in the interstitial states when another rule's actions haven't yet finished. One way to do this is to put conditions in a group, and use a stabilizing delay ("sustained for" on the enclosing group), to ensure that not only are the rule's conditions met, but they've stayed met and other pending changes didn't exclude the rule during the delay.
Example: I have a set of rules that when any primary kitchen light is turned on, the undercabinet and in-cabinet LEDs on MiLight controllers (secondary lights) are also turned on at 100%. When all kitchen lights are turned off, the LEDs are then turned off as well, unless it's Evening (defined by time in another rule set), where the undercabinet LEDs are set to 50%, and the in-cabinet LEDs are turned off. When Night is activated (we're all asleep), the LEDs are turned off, unless the house is in Guest Mode (a guest is spending the night) in which case the undercabinet LEDs on one side of the kitchen (the most-used/most-useful strip) go to 25%, and everything else is turned off (making an illuminated pathway to snacks and water if our guest gets up during the night). And when Party Mode is active, all automatic off actions are disabled (no "Last Call" effect that kills the party). And during Day mode, motion turns on the undercabinet LEDs for ambience. And of course, lack of motion in the kitchen for 10 minutes turns off all main lights (but not LEDs, and never in Party Mode). This is all a fairly intertwined set of requirements, but broken down it relies on mutually-exclusive states that are easy to test (Day vs Evening vs Night), overriding tests (Guest and Party modes), and transitive states (the conditions of the primary lighting devices). The transitive tests have stabilizing delays, because, for example, the rule and reaction that turns off the primary lights for lack of motion, if it occurs in the Evening, will turn off the LEDs and also trigger the rule and reaction that turns them on to 50%, and those two reactions will try to execute concurrently -- not good. Without the delay, I would very reliably get a mix of the undercabinet lights being on or off, rather than all on at 50%. But it's simple: the "Undercab Evening" rule just makes sure that all primary lights, as a group, have been off for a few seconds before it triggers and starts turning the LEDs on.
That may seem a bit complex, but the set of rules is actually pretty simple (I think). Here's how I've structured all that (typed-out since screen shots would be horribly large and long):
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Any Key Light On
is an OR group that is true when any of the three primary lights is on: sink, island, and main. This is an "Armed For" rule in your parlance (i.e. it has no reactions/actions of its own; its state is used by other rules). - Rule
Kitchen Recent Motion
is true when (triggers) the motion sensor trips; delay reset for 300 seconds. This is another rule that is only used by other rules, it doesn't have any reactions. - There are "global" rules for
Day
,Night
andEvening
periods as mutually-exclusive modes, andGuest Mode
andParty Mode
(just virtual switches). - Rule
Undercab Follower - On
turns on the LEDs to 100% whenAny Key Light On
is true. Just that simple. - Rule
Undercab Follower - Off
turns off the LEDs whenAny Key Light On
is false for a sustained two seconds. - Rule
Motionless Kitchen Off
turns off all primary lights and LED strips when (triggers) there has been no motion for ten minutes (Kitchen Recent Motion
is false sustained for 600 seconds) and Party Mode is false, and (constraints) whenAny Key Light On
is true on OR the always-used undercabinet LED strip is on. - Rule
Undercab Day Default
turns on the undercabinet LEDs (not in-cabinet) when (triggers) it'sDay
andKitchen Recent Motion
is true, and (constraints)Any Key Light On
is false (no primary lights are on); - Rule
Undercab Evening Default
turns on the undercabinet and in-cabinet LEDs at 50% when (triggers) it'sEvening
andAny Key Light On
has been false for at least 10 seconds (sustained for delay), and the always-used LED strip is not on. - Rule
Undercab Normal Night
turns off the LEDs when (triggers) Night is true and Party Mode is false and Guest Mode is false andAny Key Light On
is false. - Rule
Guest Mode Night
(should be calledUndercab Guest Night
for consistency, I suppose) turns on the always-used LED strip at 25%, all others off, when (triggers) Night is true and Guest Mode is true and the always-used LED strip has been off for at least 10 seconds.
Notice, for example, that I didn't make the effort to make a monolithic rule for
Motionless Kitchen Off
that figures out if it'sDay
,Evening
, orNight
, and ifParty Mode
orGuest Mode
were in effect, and set the LEDs accordingly. Rather, MKO just turns the lights off, and the other rules turn things back on after a small delay. This serves two masters: it keeps the complexity low, and it allows recovery from a manual operation (i.e. all the lights are turned off manually rather than by the rule) without the need for an additional rule to detect and act on that manual change. Sure, it's a little "flashy" (LEDs turn off, then may come back on shortly after, rather than just going directly to the new terminal state), but it's also very easy to understand and maintain, and spouse-approved. I have no love or desire for any more complexity than is required by my own sensibilities and the WAF. Anyway, I think a lot of people get bogged down thinking they have to handle everything on one condition (i.e. when the lights are turned off, I need to implement every possible terminal state right there in the rule where that's detected), and that's not the case. I was also able to develop these rules incrementally and without the complexity going non-linear with every new requirement I added.In computing we would say Reactor's rules and reactions are not "atomic." Atomic, in the computing sense, generally means an indivisible part — an operation that will be done without interruption. Rules and reactions in MSR aren't atomic. A reaction does not take over the CPU and run until the reaction is done. The reaction may give up the CPU at any step to allow other things to happen, as I said. This can affect how you write conditions for rules, particularly when the conditions involve devices you are modifying in the rule's reactions. For example, if you have two devices A and B that are always in opposite states by your requirements (A-on/B-off or A-off/B-on), and you use two reactions to set them to one state or another, there is always a period where they are in an interstitial state, where one has been modified and the other is about to be, therefore both are on or both are off. It is in the space between those two actions that things can go wrong. If you think in your mind that A and B are always opposite and therefore it's safe in a rule to just test A's state alone before launching into some other action(s), that rule may trigger in that interstitial state and cause who-knows-what problem, perhaps even something disastrous. The key here is don't assume the computer works the way your brain wants to think about it. Even though you may think A and B are always in opposite states, make sure your rules enforce that expectation as well -- both devices tested for their expected state.
Also, leave yourself a lot of comments in your rules and reactions, and if there are special conditions or actions, make sure to mention them. I think a lot of missteps occur when, for example, a reaction is written for a rule that only executes the reaction at night. Six months later, you have some need to do a similar thing during the day, so you decide to invoke that reaction to do your day work as well, but it does something else that you don't want, maybe something subtle that you don't notice right away, and a week or more later you start noticing and wondering why the landscape lights are on in the middle of the day. At that point, you've forgotten that you've re-used that reaction, and you've long-since forgotten that that reaction also turns on the landscape lights. Leave comments, and when reusing a rule or reaction, look at it and review what it does. Oh, and in this case, remember that the logs are your friend. Pretty much all device actions are logged at this point, so it's easy to spot the sequence of events leading up to a device being manipulated.
One thing I can do to make things a little easier with regard to the concurrency is give you the option of making reactions started from other reactions wait for completion. That's already in the Engine, it's just not exposed in the UI. That would keep a single reaction from lighting off too many concurrent reactions; it would not, however, eliminate the possibility of other rules evaluating while those reactions are in mid-stride. That's a completely different problem (and for the moment, best handled with those "sustained for" delays). But I'll make sure the wait option is in the next release.
Sorry for the firehose/text wall...
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@toggledbits This. This is exactly the response I was hoping to evoke from not just yourself but others who have been using the system for a while now.
What works for you?
What would you do differently?
What was a horribly wrong path?Your lighting example makes me think of my living room curtain and the TV. I prefer the curtain to be open during the day because of the view, but once it's dark outside and the lights are on inside then I'm the view lol
So, at sunset I want the curtain to close halfway. Once the TV goes on, close all the way down to the cat door (still allowing him access to his precious screened room.) But what if I was already watching TV before sunset. I still wanted the curtain open since it was daylight out but now I want it to close all the way down to the cat door at sunset. But once the TV goes off I don't want the curtain opening back up again.
And what about that blind to the right of the TV - the one that allows the neighbors to look right in as you watch TV? Nice people but I still don't need them watching ME watching TV. So the blinds get tilted whilst the TV is on... but it's after sunset... I could go on but you get the idea.
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I have a similar approach (smaller rules, global reactions with groups and lots of comments). But I used a very complex one (dozen of triggers and constraints) on a couple of other situations, that I regret now.
I over complicated things because I was porting code, but when I have free time (an exceedingly rare event nowadays), I'll try to break them. I usually write simpler rulesets to get the state, and a reaction to execute the logic, that's invoked by other reactions (or even MQTT, as I documented previously). What attracted me to a single ruleset was the ability to write local variables (I use them a lot, being a programmer at heart), but you'll end up pretty soon with conflicting logic and problems in debugging the state.
What convinced me to move my logic to MSR was the multi-threading capabilities, because I'm mixing lot of things together and I'm comfortable with multiple actions/rulesets being execute simultaneous, but I agree it's tricky if you're not used to concurrency. I agree virtual switches are the best help and I hope to see native virtual devices in MSR soon.
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I wanna answer your question so badly, but fear my input at this juncture would be invalid since I no longer have a use-case for MSR. Oh, it's still running 24/7 in a Docker container over on my Synology NAS... but once I finalized the transition from Vera over to Hubitat (THANK YOU 1000x @toggledbits !), and ported all my my old logic into my new C7 hub, my "fiddling" days abruptly ended.
Do I still have Rulesets in place (but disabled) on MSR Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-21307-1746e27? Yep. Are the Rules they contain worth mentioning, since 49% involved Vera and 49% were extremely/overly experimental in nature, with 2% marked for "Testing"? Nope.
And did I ever try to Register another username on the old long-forgotten ezlo Forum after being excommunicated 4x? AW HELL NAW!
But I will mention that MSR comes to mind periodically, such as earlier today, when I realized Hubitat lacks a native way to generate and send email messages to its users. And at other times when I delve into heavyweight plug-ins (the HE community calls them User Apps) like WebCore, I think to myself, "Hot damn, this would be waaaay easier to accomplish over in MSR."
Mostly, I'm posting this reply just to SAY HI TO THE GANG, whom I miss, and to let you guys know that all of the time (Vera tweaking) and headaches (ezlo PTSD) I've spared myself over the past year was invested in buying and riding a new electric bike (the Priority Current with Enviolo CVT), so now I know what the outdoors looks like.
PEACE and lemme know if my answer here raised more questions.
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Hear hear. Always good to "see" you, @LibraSun
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@toggledbits said in Approach to Rulesets, a philosophic question:
spouse-approved
It is the best comment
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I think there should be almost a unanimity to build small Reactions that are triggered by Rules, great practice for maintenance, and repetition of tasks.
What I've been doing is using delay in the calls when I want to have a sequencing of execution, i.e., in @toggledbits 's example of A and B being opposite, I know that there will be the interval of the two being equal, but managing the delay, I try to have greater control of the execution.
Another reason to use delay in the shots is as I have already reported in other posts, I see that shooting many simultaneous actions, generates failures, and some devices are not being triggered. Again @toggledbits intervened and improved a lot the communication between MSR and HE, but I ended up keeping the delay to a few seconds that I control in Rule.
What works for you? Use of delay to control the sequence;
What would you do differently? I think the path is very similar for everyone, I follow most of the simplification and many small rules;
What was a horribly wrong path? In my case, not having execution control on simultaneous executions. -
A short summary of my rulesets; first of all I'm using quite many rulesets (e.g. "lights outside", "lights inside", "sonos alerts", "statistics & alerts") that themselves contain a lot of rules ("statistics & alerts" contain 47 rules, that mainly send telegram messages when certain event happens). But one aspect of MSR that I haven't quite figured out yet is the use of global reactions. I have none of those.
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@tunnus I use global reactions in situations wherein, for instance, I'm triggering the color-changing smart lights I have for landscape lighting. I've created global reactions for each light and each color I typically use. The global reaction contains four different settings (which would be a pita to add to five lights) that make up each color. I then just call that global reaction when I need that color at a specific light.
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@therealdb said in Approach to Rulesets, a philosophic question:
I agree virtual switches are the best help and I hope to see native virtual devices in MSR soon.
You've now got your wish (22258)!
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@toggledbits I’ll try them soon. I’m quite busy at work, but I hope to remove a couple of virtual devices from my Vera and move ha bridge and my dashboard to native MSR http commands. Thanks for the addition!
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