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    For your notify action you're going to want to remove the data:. Also another tip you can add the time and date in your notification like this {{ now().strftime(\"%-I:%M %p %Y-%m-%d\") }}

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      @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

      And it has no filter, so the group will contain those two sensors regardless of their state.

      Okay, so like this?

            "window_sensors":
              select:
                - include_entity:
                  - 'hass>binary_sensor_basement_window'
                  - 'hass>binary_sensor_family_room_double_window'
                filter_expression: >
                  entity.attributes.binary_sensor = true
      
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      @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

      Okay, so like this?

      Almost. filter_expression should be indented at the same level as select (so two spaces back from what you've shown).

      Also, you have entity.attributes.binary_sensor = true in your filter expression. A couple of errors there. binary_sensor is a capability, so you need to specify the attribute in that capability you want to look at, which is state. That is, you want entity.attributes.binary_sensor.state. Then, you are using the assignment operation = rather than the equality comparison operator ==. And finally, you don't need to make an equality comparison to true or false, because state is already boolean true or false, so you're basically saying if true == true which is true already, or if false == true which is false already... you don't need the == operator or its operand here.

      The same caution above applies to your rule. Get out of the habit of using == with the word true in conditions when testing a boolean attribute, and instead use the is TRUE or is FALSE operators provided. The way you've done it, that operand is a string in the rule condition, so you're forcing an extra conversion and assumption of data type when you use == and true... the is TRUE and is FALSE operators (which take no operand) are more efficient. You even used them in your second condition, so just follow that model.

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        @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

        Okay, so like this?

        Almost. filter_expression should be indented at the same level as select (so two spaces back from what you've shown).

        Also, you have entity.attributes.binary_sensor = true in your filter expression. A couple of errors there. binary_sensor is a capability, so you need to specify the attribute in that capability you want to look at, which is state. That is, you want entity.attributes.binary_sensor.state. Then, you are using the assignment operation = rather than the equality comparison operator ==. And finally, you don't need to make an equality comparison to true or false, because state is already boolean true or false, so you're basically saying if true == true which is true already, or if false == true which is false already... you don't need the == operator or its operand here.

        The same caution above applies to your rule. Get out of the habit of using == with the word true in conditions when testing a boolean attribute, and instead use the is TRUE or is FALSE operators provided. The way you've done it, that operand is a string in the rule condition, so you're forcing an extra conversion and assumption of data type when you use == and true... the is TRUE and is FALSE operators (which take no operand) are more efficient. You even used them in your second condition, so just follow that model.

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        @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

        The same caution above applies to your rule. Get out of the habit of using == with the word true in conditions when testing a boolean attribute, and instead use the is TRUE or is FALSE operators provided. That operand is a string in the rule condition, so you're forcing an extra conversion and assumption of data type when you use == and true... the is TRUE and is FALSE operators (which take no operand) are more efficient. You even used them in your second condition, so just follow that model.

        Ha, good catch! I didn 't even notice I did that. I usually do try to use "is True", I just missed this one.

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          @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

          Okay, so like this?

          Almost. filter_expression should be indented at the same level as select (so two spaces back from what you've shown).

          Also, you have entity.attributes.binary_sensor = true in your filter expression. A couple of errors there. binary_sensor is a capability, so you need to specify the attribute in that capability you want to look at, which is state. That is, you want entity.attributes.binary_sensor.state. Then, you are using the assignment operation = rather than the equality comparison operator ==. And finally, you don't need to make an equality comparison to true or false, because state is already boolean true or false, so you're basically saying if true == true which is true already, or if false == true which is false already... you don't need the == operator or its operand here.

          The same caution above applies to your rule. Get out of the habit of using == with the word true in conditions when testing a boolean attribute, and instead use the is TRUE or is FALSE operators provided. The way you've done it, that operand is a string in the rule condition, so you're forcing an extra conversion and assumption of data type when you use == and true... the is TRUE and is FALSE operators (which take no operand) are more efficient. You even used them in your second condition, so just follow that model.

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          @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

          Also, you have entity.attributes.binary_sensor = true in your filter expression. A couple of errors there. binary_sensor is a capability, so you need to specify the attribute in that capability you want to look at, which is state. That is, you want entity.attributes.binary_sensor.state. Then, you are using the assignment operation = rather than the equality comparison operator ==. And finally, you don't need to make an equality comparison to true or false, because state is already boolean true or false, so you're basically saying if true == true which is true already, or if false == true which is false already... you don't need the == operator or its operand here.

          So like this:

                    "window_sensors":
                      select:
                        - include_entity:
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_office_windows'
                          - 'hass>binary_sensor_basement_window'
                          - 'hass>binary_sensor_family_room_double_window'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_family_room_fireplace_left'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_family_room_fireplace_right'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_garage_window_back_lower'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_garage_window_back_upper'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_garage_window_front_lower'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_garage_window_front_upper'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_guest_room_windows'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_mama_cave_windows'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_master_bathroom_window'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_master_bedroom_windows'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_mia_s_room_windows'
                          - 'haas>binary_sensor_mud_room_window'
                          - 'hass>binary_sensor_morning_room_left'
                          - 'hass>binary_sensor_morning_room_left_middle'
                          - 'hass>binary_sensor_morning_room_middle'
                          - 'hass>binary_sensor_morning_room_right_middle'
                          - 'hass>binary_sensor_morning_room_right'
                      filter_expression: >
                        entity.attributes.binary_sensor.state
          
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            Seems OK

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              Seems OK

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              @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

              Seems OK

              It's still not tripping in MSR when I open a window.

              This is what is being shown when all the windows are closed. I'm not really paying atention to the comparssion value, jsut the current value it's displaying. That value isn't changing.

              589719a4-62af-420a-aefe-83ceb44a5801-image.png

              I tried it with sys_group.members as well.

              87f1c786-11f3-475c-9e3e-99adf122f89e-image.png

              None of the comparisons seem to make any difference. Current value: array:0) "" remains the same in any state of the windows.

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                Go to your Entities list, and find the window_sensors group entity, look at its attributes while you open and close a listed sensor. If it's not changing, then you either have an error in your DGC configuration, or the device(s) aren't responding as expected.

                Remember also your basic troubleshooting steps: any time something doesn't work the way you expect it to, go look in the log files for messages. DGC configures groups at startup, so look at the messages logged for DynamicGroupController during startup.

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                  Go to your Entities list, and find the window_sensors group entity, look at its attributes while you open and close a listed sensor. If it's not changing, then you either have an error in your DGC configuration, or the device(s) aren't responding as expected.

                  Remember also your basic troubleshooting steps: any time something doesn't work the way you expect it to, go look in the log files for messages. DGC configures groups at startup, so look at the messages logged for DynamicGroupController during startup.

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                  #17

                  @toggledbits
                  I was just going around the hosue and testing different windows.

                  Some of the windows seem to work. When I use sys_group.empty (primary), the value when all the windows are closed is True: The windows that are working, the boolean changes to false and the Local Expression value (window_names) changes to that window. I'm going to have to pinpoint which windows aren't working correctly. It could be an issue in the HA configuration.yaml for the DSC/Envisalink entries. That's for me to figure out.

                  The only other issue is the message. It's not sending the value of the string. I'm receiving $ Opened!

                  message: ${{ window_names }} Opened!
                  

                  Edit: The one I had been testing with, right next to my office desk, does change in the entities tab.

                  Office Windows
                  hass>binary_sensor_office_windows
                  true
                  1:38:38 PM

                  Edit 2: I copied and pasted from the Entities tab the Office Windows Canoncial ID into the reactor.yaml config. Even though they looked identical, once I restarted reactor, that window is now responding properly. I suspect I may have hidden characters in the ones that aren't functioning.

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                    @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                    Seems OK

                    It's still not tripping in MSR when I open a window.

                    This is what is being shown when all the windows are closed. I'm not really paying atention to the comparssion value, jsut the current value it's displaying. That value isn't changing.

                    589719a4-62af-420a-aefe-83ceb44a5801-image.png

                    I tried it with sys_group.members as well.

                    87f1c786-11f3-475c-9e3e-99adf122f89e-image.png

                    None of the comparisons seem to make any difference. Current value: array:0) "" remains the same in any state of the windows.

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                    @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                    @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                    Seems OK

                    It's still not tripping in MSR when I open a window.

                    This is what is being shown when all the windows are closed. I'm not really paying atention to the comparssion value, jsut the current value it's displaying. That value isn't changing.

                    589719a4-62af-420a-aefe-83ceb44a5801-image.png

                    I tried it with sys_group.members as well.

                    87f1c786-11f3-475c-9e3e-99adf122f89e-image.png

                    None of the comparisons seem to make any difference. Current value: array:0) "" remains the same in any state of the windows.

                    I went back to all the windows in the reactor.yaml file and copied the values directly from the Entities tab. They are all now working.

                    The only thing not working is the notification. Any ideas what the cause could be?

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                    • T tamorgen

                      @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                      @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                      Seems OK

                      It's still not tripping in MSR when I open a window.

                      This is what is being shown when all the windows are closed. I'm not really paying atention to the comparssion value, jsut the current value it's displaying. That value isn't changing.

                      589719a4-62af-420a-aefe-83ceb44a5801-image.png

                      I tried it with sys_group.members as well.

                      87f1c786-11f3-475c-9e3e-99adf122f89e-image.png

                      None of the comparisons seem to make any difference. Current value: array:0) "" remains the same in any state of the windows.

                      I went back to all the windows in the reactor.yaml file and copied the values directly from the Entities tab. They are all now working.

                      The only thing not working is the notification. Any ideas what the cause could be?

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                      #19

                      @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                      The only thing not working is the notification. Any ideas what the cause could be?

                      You have:

                      message: ${{ window_names }} Opened!
                      

                      That stands out because it's not valid YAML. Missing quotes.

                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                        @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                        The only thing not working is the notification. Any ideas what the cause could be?

                        You have:

                        message: ${{ window_names }} Opened!
                        

                        That stands out because it's not valid YAML. Missing quotes.

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                        wrote on last edited by tamorgen
                        #20

                        @toggledbits, how should the quotes work for a MSR variable in yaml? I copied your example in the second post, but you aren’t calling a HA function. I’ve been playing around with it, but I’m not getting the variable in the system call.

                        I’m looking at this documentation for HA.

                        Home Assistant

                        Script Syntax

                        Script Syntax

                        Documentation for the Home Assistant Script Syntax.

                        They show an example

                        
                        data: 
                            message: "{{ blind_state_message }}"
                        
                        

                        So, in theory,

                            message: "{{ window_names }}" opened.
                        

                        should be valid. The difference here is that window_names is coming from the local expression.

                        However, MSR throws an error, telling me that I have invalid service data.

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                          @tamorgen You need MSR to evaluate the whole data being sent

                          ${{ { “message”: window_names + “ opened!” } }}
                          
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                            @tamorgen You need MSR to evaluate the whole data being sent

                            ${{ { “message”: window_names + “ opened!” } }}
                            
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                            @Crille said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                            @tamorgen You need MSR to evaluate the whole data being sent

                            ${{ { “message”: window_names + “ opened!” } }}
                            

                            That's not working either. It actually disables the Play button at he end of Entity Action.

                            This is a system call on home assistant (call_service) to send a notification via the HA companion app. The message: text isn't part of the message to be sent, it's yaml code that is part of the data field.

                            For example, I have another reaction that sends a message to my phone when my washing machine has completed a cycle.

                            Screen Shot 2023-02-23 at 5.56.40 PM.png

                            The word message doesn't appear on my phone, just the data after it.

                            Here is my current rule:

                            Screen Shot 2023-02-23 at 5.59.30 PM.png

                            In the Local Expressions, you can see Last value: (string) "Office Windows", so that value should be returned for window_names in the system call.

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                              Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

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                                Try my example by hitting the general play button for Reaction.

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                                  Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

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                                  @Pabla said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                                  Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

                                  Doesn't work. MSR throws this error.

                                  Screen Shot 2023-02-23 at 6.10.33 PM.png

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                                    I don't think you have it written correctly here's an example of how I have it used in one of my own notifications
                                    image.png

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                                      Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

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                                      @Pabla said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                                      Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

                                      That triggers the notification, but the value isn't returned.

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                                        Don't use the play button next to the action, use the play button right under set reaction

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                                          Don't use the play button next to the action, use the play button right under set reaction

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                                          @Pabla said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                                          Don't use the play button next to the action, use the play button right under set reaction

                                          Well that makes a difference! This has been driving me nuts all afternoon. Thanks for cluing me in!

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