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Disaster recovery and virtualisation
CatmanV2C
Following on from my last thread, some progress has been made over the weekend. With 18G of spanky RAM in my Synology DS224+. I've jumped into the murky world of virtualisation and already eliminated the need for two Raspberry Pi's from my system. Home Assistant: In theory they provide an OVA file which is supported by the Synology. I couldn't get it to work, however, so grabbed a copy of the .img file they supply, renamed it .iso and imported it as a VM. Restored from my full back up and that all seems fantastic. Minidnla Music server: Trivial. Grabbed a Debian .iso for Bookworm and copied that onto the NAS. Created a new machine which mirrored the specs of the Raspberry Pi, booted from the ISO then did an expert install. Once that was all stable with a basic core of stuff and networking, I've made a copy of that as a good base system. Then fired up minidnla on it, mounted my media and that's also woking. Not bad for a short weekend's work. Still not sure about the main NUC though. I'm thinking of buying a new USB stick so I can mess around getting it working on the Synology before I do anything drastic. Once that hurdle is sorted I'm torn between: Using a brand new install of Bookworm, re-installing Z-way server, OpenLuup, AltUI, MSR and HA bridge, then restoring across or Making an ISO of the current system, importing that and upgrading in place (which will be pretty risk free since I can snapshot everything before I make any changes.) Decisions, decisions. C
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RFC: When disaster strikes (sorry it's a bit verbose)
CatmanV2C
Hi everyone. Thanks for all your input recently on the topic of local notifications. I think we got some really interesting solutions Back to more prosaic matters. Most of you will know that I've been messing around with this stuff for some years. My last major change was when I migrated from Vera, which was something like 4-5 years ago. While my system has grown, it's not really altered very regularly, although I try to keep most of it kind of up to date. Current set up: Intel NUC that runs: Bare metal install of Debian Z-way server with Z-wave.me USB stick Openluup Altui Multi system reactor HA Bridge Mosquito Raspberry Pi Running Home Assistant About 40 varied Z-wave and Wifi devices I also have a Synology DS224+ which may inform some responses. Home Assistant recovery is pretty simple. I get a full backup of the system every night dumped onto my SAN and I know from experience that it would simply be a case of booting up a new install and feeding it the backup. The NUC on the other hand.... Coming from a commercial IT world, I am becoming more and more conscious that I don't really feel I have a suitable disaster recovery plan, and my core system is running on hardware heading for 10 years old. My initial thought, which I've kept putting off as it's awkward would be to grab a nice SSD, reboot the NUC into Mint or something similar and simply do a dd copy onto a new drive. I can get a replacement NUC on ebay simply enough, and keep it in a cupboard if anything other than the hard drive fails on the existing one, but this feels rather like a stop gap. However one immediate question: If I had to use the replacement NUC would all the Z-wave devices simply carry on talking to the stick, or would they all need to be re-paired? How easy would it be to move everything the NUC does (as a start) onto the NAS? Create a VM and clone the disc onto it? Should I move to Docker? Something else? What are the hive mind's thoughts? Apologies if we've done this before, but while it all just works... Cheers! C
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Eachen No Neutral smart wall switch to lights and Sonoff Mini R4 switch for LEDs
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Hello and first network question
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Just bought a couple of generic smart plugs and set them up easily using SmartLife app in the house I then plugged one into a workshop over 100m away This workshop has a hardwired internet connection with a separate wireless access router (not mesh) after doing a reset on the device and pairing to the new router it actually works from the house when my phone is connected to a completely separate wifi network - how is that possible ? I did read something about these devices connecting to a server somewhere in China similar to IP cameras but there is no lag
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Lights switches for warehouse
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I need to replace about 15 traditional wall light switches (no neutral wire) to turn on/off all lights with one operation inside the warehouse. And still maintain the ability to control each light individually. The preference is not to set up a Wifi for each switch to reduce the number of devices connected to the network, and also, they change the Wifi password regularly, so they do not want to change all 15 switches. I am looking for some solution that will achieve this with either Bluetooth/RF or any other technology. The warehouse dimensions are about 100ftx100ft with sheetrock walls. Please assist.
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'Random' lights turning on
CatmanV2C
I thought I had created a topic on this some time back, but can't find it to close the loop. The issue was the lights on my drive appeared to be randomly switching on, with nothing from MSR logging and just a simple 'turn this on' in Openluup logs. Finally got to the bottom of it this morning, which might help someone. Turns out that somehow Alexa has decided that my drive lights are part of my Living room. If I tell her 'Living room lights on' the drive lights also come on. And if I tell her to turn them off, they also go off. Which is madness because they are NOT in the living room group. Current solution is to disable the drive lights in the Alexa app, which is fine as I never need to voice control them. C
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New to Home Automation Looking for a Single app?
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Hi All Hopefully this place looks like a helpful forum as I’m quite new to all this! I’ve had a few devices all working separately /through their proprietary apps but we’re just finishing off a large house extension and this has added to the list. I’d ideally like to be able to view/switch a number of different devices on one screen/head end but have no idea where to start. The devices we have/will have shortly are as follows; Zigbee Smart Sockets Zigbee smart switches (for lights) Heatmiser Neo Underfloor Heating (this runs from a Samsung ASHP but that part is automatic) Samsung VRF air conditioning (currently using Smart Things App) Hive (2xLTHW heating circuits in the existing house and Hot Water) Ring (doorbell!) Hik Vision PoE CCTV We have lots of appliances (Neff N70) which we can control remotely but not too fussed about controlling those at the Moment) Any help/recommendations would be appreciated! Thanks Adrian
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Sending data to a USB port to interface with a wireless switch
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I have a legacy home automation set-up running on Windows XP. the computer and software have now died. I have written a very nice Excel VBA program to replace the software and it can run on any modern Windows system. My only remaining problem is to output the correct signal to a USB port to trigger the wireless switches. Has anybody done a similar exercise. Please help.
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Looking for Remote Switch boxes that can also be used with a wireless Decora Style Switch.
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Hi All, Kind of new to Home Automation. Started off Using Amazon Echo units and added a Samsung SmartThings hub. I have mostly been using plug in modules for turning lights on and off. I live in a very rural area where the internet goes out a lot. I eventually want to change to to a non internet Hub so things will work without needing an internet connection. But I will post with those questions at a later date. So, the task at hand is this: I have flood lights at each corner of my house. They are currently controlled by switches at the front and back doors. I would like to add Security Cameras to each corner also. I can easily find small Wifi switches to put into the electrical box where the flood lights are located, then I can terminate the leads together behind the Decora switch to have constant power. Then I can use the constant power up at the lights electrical box to power the security cameras. I would also like to have a wireless switch to take the place of the Decora switch to be able to turn the lights off and on. I cannot seem to find a product like this. It seems I can find the small wired in switch boxes that will also come with external smart wall switches, but the wall switches are an external box that does not fit in or cover the existing Wall switch electrical box. I can also find Wireless Decora switches that come with a remote wired in small switch box , but they all seem to be RF and do not integrate with a Smart Hub. I am hoping someone here knows of a product that matches what I am looking for. Any help would be appreciated. Also any recommendations for Wireless Security cameras are welcome. Thanks for any help.
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Just starting what hub is best.
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Dear Forum, I am just starting a smart home system. I've wanted to do this for 10 years at most and really would like to get a start. What I have are a couple of SONOFF wifi relays, some 433 (Hz/mHz) switches ( not wifi ) a couple of wifi lightbulbs, and I'd like to expand wifi thermostat, leak/water detectors, garage door openers and what ever else I can think of. In the SONOFF items I have it's a particular app, the wifi bulbs are another app, and if I do a thermostat there might be another app. My wife is not a Luddite but she damn sure doesn't want to have to trouble shoot if/why a particular app breaks down. So in what I do understand about smart home things is that I need/want a HUB. I spent 15 years doing some programming so I do have some computer ability, though I'd prefer to stay away from HAVING to line command operate the hub. I would like a list of HUB's that people have found to be the best. Even better are links to let's say Amazon for that hub. Regards from Noob Smart Home, Barry
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Logitech logic
CatmanV2C
Hello lovely people. Long time and all that. Hope you're all doing OK. Bit of a left field one here, looking for extra eyes more than an answer and you're the most logical bunch I know Part of our HA system is a Logitech Elite hub and remote control. This is programmed to control my Cyrus Stereo, our TV, and HDMI switch and our Virgin V6 box. I've been away for a couple of days. Got back this evening to (eventually) work out that the V6 box appears to be not accepting any commands from the Logitech. Everything has been rebooted. Logitech uses IR to control Cyrus: Fine TV: Fine HDMI: Fine Remote control uses Bluetooth to control Hub. All commands from the Remote to the hub are executed (one might assume correctly) as the activity LED responds, and if you're controlling (say) the Cyrus, all works fine. iOS App can be used to control Hub over the WLAN: All commands from the App re executed (one might assume correctly) as the activity LED responds, and if you're controlling (say) the Cyrus, all works fine. Native remote (that uses as far as I know bluetooth) to control the V6 box works fine. V6 box refuses to acknowledge any command other than from the native remote. Remote or app provoke absolutely zero response from the V6 box. This is annoying, but damned if I can think of any logical reason. One might assume a firmware update on the V6 box, but given that the Hub simply emulates the native remote, that seems unlikely. I'm struggling to think of where even to start troubleshooting this, so any random thoughts would be appreciated. My initial approach is to buy another hub in case there's a different radio set that's failed in the hub... TIA! C
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Recommendation for a smart in-wall plug
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I currently have an HVAC system in the attic - for heating and A/C. 120v is supplied to the unit to run the gas heating. A/C uses 240v. I have an ecobee thermostat...which sometimes goes offline....not often. When it goes offline, I need to turn the 120v power to the HVAC system off and then back on (the ecobee gets its power from the HVAC system). That resets the ecobee and all is fine. I spend the summer away from this house and if the ecobee goes offine..I have no current method to reset the HVAC 120v power remotely. My idea is to replace the current 120v plug in the attic with a smart plug...then I can remotely turn the 120v power off and the ecobee will reset and come back online. I use Wyze and Lutron Casita in the house currently and was hoping I could find an in-wall smart plug from Wyze or Lutron. Obviously, I don't need diming, etc...just the ability to turn the plug power on/off. I've seen some options...but one problem I have is the attic can reach up to 135F in the summer...many of the smart plugs I've seen are not rated for that temperature. Might any of you have any thoughts on a smart plug I might want to look at? I don't want to invest in anything that would require a new hub - so either WiFi based or Casita HUB based. I need 120v and 15amp ratings. Thanks in advance.
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Would you use a self-hosted geofencing solution?
toggledbitsT
Some of you may know that I took at shot at building an alternate geofencing solution for Vera. The core of it was system agnostic, using the OwnTracks application and AWS lambdas to track devices and keep a central data, then disseminate that to the Vera via a websocket-based plugin. It worked with other apps as well, including Tasker and GPSLogger, but of the dozen people that were testing it, most used OwnTracks. A lot was learned in the process, not the least of which is that the success of any such solution is highly dependent on the phone and its settings. Phone manufacturers love to set things up for the longest battery life, of course, but that's usually very anti-geofencing behavior. In the case of at least one brand, it was unusable and the settings could not be modified. It was also cost-prohibitive to maintain on Amazon, as AWS grabs a dime here and a dollar there and before you know it, it added $100/month to my AWS bill, which my wife deducted from my Scotch budget. Unacceptable. But it's quite reasonable to use OwnTracks to a local endpoint, and I could pretty easily replicate the functionality as a local application, or maybe even as an additional endpoint built into MSR's API (still separate port and process, but in the package). So the question really is... would you do it, or would you be too concerned about the security risks associated (e.g., dynamic DNS and NAT mapping in the firewall necessary for the phone to contact the service when not on LAN)?
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Recover an ‘assumed bricked’ Vera Secure

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    Looks a nice set up..

    Oh, you’ve just reminded me, I use my QNAP as a NVR too (6 cameras), plus I also have ‘ sonos-http-api’ running (using Joanna), and PiHole’ too.

    Connectivity wise, I use my UniFi home set up for VPN, and it has 3 networks, (I) Private LAN, (ii) Guest (Internet Only) for visitors & IoT devices (Alexa/Ring etc) and (iii) Video (IP TV) - I’d really like to embed my UniFi controller into my HA much more, as it has a lot of useful info, energy usage (via PoE), presence awareness via access points. Currently I just do some json calls here and there.

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      Hi @rafale77

      There was some interesting developments on the Vera forum about recovering a veraplus, through connecting a USB to TTY device to some connectors on the board . Opening up the unit and looking at the VeraSecure board, I can see 4 connectors too. (Photo posted on that forum) https://community.ezlo.com/t/can-the-veraplus-be-unbricked/204485/34

      Is that a route you’ve used before ?

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        Not really. The route used before was using a custom windows tool from vera designed for the vera3 which I believe to start a TFTP server which then injects a firmware image to the device over ethernet. This would be something new (well sort of since I think someone on the forum also used TTY to recover one unit as well but not through USB.)

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          Thanks,

          While I’ve got the vera3 program somewhere, although as yet I’ve not been able to get it to install/run, having built an XP machine just for that purpose..

          it’s interesting you talk about a TFTP server, as I had to do a recovery with a different product, and they sent me instructions on setting up a DHCP server and a TFTP service all using tftd32/64 - http://tftpd32.jounin.net/tftpd32_download.html

          I’ve also seen these..

          [OpenWrt Wiki] What is TFTP Recovery over Ethernet?
          [OpenWrt Wiki] Installing OpenWrt via TFTP

          And then for the cable/connection..

          [OpenWrt Wiki] Serial Console
          [OpenWrt Wiki] Serial Cables

          Assuming I can get to the command line via putty and the usb-tty cable on Vera; any idea what the sequence and command line(s) might be download and run the firmware update ?

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            Yup! These are the two known methods to write the flash memory of an embedded device (TFTP and TTY). I don’t have a vera secure and have only recovered vera plus and vera edge through TFTP. Sorry can’t help with the TTY USB as have taken down my veras.

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              Yup! These are the two known methods to write the flash memory of an embedded device (TFTP and TTY). I don’t have a vera secure and have only recovered vera plus and vera edge through TFTP. Sorry can’t help with the TTY USB as have taken down my veras.

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              @rafale77 said in Recover an ‘assumed bricked’ Vera Secure:

              Yup! These are the two known methods to write the flash memory of an embedded device (TFTP and TTY). I don’t have a vera secure and have only recovered vera plus and vera edge through TFTP. Sorry can’t help with the TTY USB as have taken down my veras.

              Hello @rafale77 , I have G550-35-1.7.4061.bin, mt7621s_Luup_ui7-1.7.5187-en-mios.squashfs and newmios-hooks.sh files. Can you tell me how can I use these files for recovery? There is no a clear tutorial about it. Is it possible to tell us how can you recover your vera plus with TFTP ? I want to apply the same stages to my vera secure. Thanks.

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                This post from Richie Digital in the old place is how I did it:

                Aug 4, 2019

                Video: Recover Bricked Vera plus

                Video: Recover Bricked Vera plus

                Yes it was bricked no ssh no telnet nada P.s Forgive my feet you can try with Vera edge as well I am not in the mood to type instructions b/c I have been working on this for 2 weeks almost and excuse my feet you can try with vera edge or vera plus if u do extroot … do it after the firmware...

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                  Is it means you use vera3_recovery_tool for recovery not TFTP? If it is yes, vera3_recovery_tool does not works at vera secure for me.

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                    Under the hood, the recovery tool is using TFTP... I just used it and didn't really bother to inquire deeper as to how one would reproduce what it does.

                    And as far as I know it should work for the vera secure as well (I tested on both the plus and the edge) since all three are based on the same platform. I just don't have a firmware image for the secure.

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                      Thanks @rafale77. After using that tool, i still have the warning at the firmware upgrade page.

                      cat: can't open "etc/cmh/PK_AccessPoint' No such file or directory cat: can't open "etc/cmh/PK_AccessPoint' No such file or directory. Manually upgrade the firmware to the latest release.

                      Do you have any idea about that warning?

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                        Yes, This file may not be present in the image you just uploaded to the vera and is unique to each unit. It contains the unique ID which is used by the vera cloud server to identify vera units and normally is retained between firmware upgrades. If you can SSH into you unit, you can create a new file there and/or ask for support to give you that ID for your unit. I don't remember having had this problem myself except when I created my vera emulator in a virtual machine.

                        It is also that I ran my unit entirely "off the grid" for many years and never cared for the cloud service. If all you are trying to do is to run a firmware update, a dummy number in that file may be enough. You may also find that number somewhere in the logs uploaded in the vera cloud if you can find those.

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                          The value is also written to NVRAM and may be still be there. Try: nvram get serial_no

                          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                            @rafale77 and @toggledbits ,thanks both of you for this wonderful informations. What should I get when returning this nvram get serial_no code? I already have another (new unit) tried that code but no return any output. Maybe tomorrow I will need to ask support for that file

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                              You should be getting the serial number of your unit which should also be the content of your missing file.
                              You can then just create that file and insert that serial number in it using a text editor. I believe the vera only has "vi" installed but I had installed "nano" on mine which I vastly prefer.

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                                I will ask support tomorrow I hope I get a positive feedback.

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                                  If the serial number is on the label of the unit, all you need to do is create the file with that number in it.

                                  If you scratch it down on a piece of paper, do this to avoid the editor:

                                  cat >/etc/cmh/PK_AccessPoint

                                  That will just sit there doing nothing waiting for you to type. Type in, carefully the serial number from the label, then hit ENTER once, then hit CTRL-D once. You should get the shell prompt again. You can then confirm the file exists and has the right content.

                                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                    Thank you @toggledbits . I will try your advice tomorrow and see the result.

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                                      Here is the result.
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                                        And here extra screenshots.

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                                        Can you comment for me ?

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                                          The error from your screenshot is pretty explicit... You are missing the libjson library for some reason. It looks like your firmware image was incomplete and was missing a lot of stuff.

                                          run

                                          opkg update
opkg install libjson

                                          You likely will have other errors and will have to complete installation of dependencies.

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