Help with Luup Reloads
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When you drag them to the Upload button in Apps > Develop apps > Luup files, the uploader will LZO compress them, always. If you use WinSCP and copy uncompressed files, they stay uncompressed. When Luup looks for a file, it will select the uncompressed file before the compressed if both are present, and this is how things get goofed up -- if you have old uncompressed files and try to update via the uploader, Luup still sees/uses the uncompressed files and ignores the newer compressed files (it doesn't check timestamps -- that would be nice!). Personally, I always use the uploader, and I don't keep uncompressed plugin files on my Veras, even during development (I never edit on the Vera so it doesn't matter).
Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.
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When you drag them to the Upload button in Apps > Develop apps > Luup files, the uploader will LZO compress them, always. If you use WinSCP and copy uncompressed files, they stay uncompressed. When Luup looks for a file, it will select the uncompressed file before the compressed if both are present, and this is how things get goofed up -- if you have old uncompressed files and try to update via the uploader, Luup still sees/uses the uncompressed files and ignores the newer compressed files (it doesn't check timestamps -- that would be nice!). Personally, I always use the uploader, and I don't keep uncompressed plugin files on my Veras, even during development (I never edit on the Vera so it doesn't matter).
@toggledbits That makes sense why the plugin wasnt working as expected. That explanation solves so many issues that I have had with plugins lol. Since I would alternate between WinSCP and Uploading via the web UI
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When you drag them to the Upload button in Apps > Develop apps > Luup files, the uploader will LZO compress them, always. If you use WinSCP and copy uncompressed files, they stay uncompressed. When Luup looks for a file, it will select the uncompressed file before the compressed if both are present, and this is how things get goofed up -- if you have old uncompressed files and try to update via the uploader, Luup still sees/uses the uncompressed files and ignores the newer compressed files (it doesn't check timestamps -- that would be nice!). Personally, I always use the uploader, and I don't keep uncompressed plugin files on my Veras, even during development (I never edit on the Vera so it doesn't matter).
@toggledbits blimey that's poor. Don't know why I should be surprised, though!
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Okay good news, so I uploaded the file via WinSCP since I noticed I had doubles of each file type one of the doubles was a .lzo file type. Now the files are deleting properly too. Question for everyone: Does the .lzo compression make a difference? Every time I get Github files I decompress and then drag them into the Luup Files section under Develop Apps. But I have began to notice that I have a lot of files with the .lzo extension
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@toggledbits said in Help with Luup Reloads:
But Luup will try, try and retry forever to start and maintain a connection to that IP.
Yes, this is, indeed, an issue, although NOT one, I would say, for openLuup. It may well explain why Vera behaves (sort of) when you remove some plugins.
For some time, now, I had a Vera Edge running without any plugins or Z-wave devices, and, I have to say, it just runs and runs!
@akbooer said in Help with Luup Reloads:
For some time, now, I had a Vera Edge running without any plugins or Z-wave devices, and, I have to say, it just runs and runs!
Erhhh - so it works great when it's doing absolutely nothing - is that it?
@toggledbits said in Help with Luup Reloads:
When Luup looks for a file, it will select the uncompressed file before the compressed if both are present, and this is how things get goofed up -- if you have old uncompressed files and try to update via the uploader, Luup still sees/uses the uncompressed files and ignores the newer compressed files (it doesn't check timestamps -- that would be nice!).
Never knew that. I always used the up-loader, so never came across this one. Certainly explains why someone could disappear into the quicksand pretty quickly.
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@akbooer said in Help with Luup Reloads:
For some time, now, I had a Vera Edge running without any plugins or Z-wave devices, and, I have to say, it just runs and runs!
Erhhh - so it works great when it's doing absolutely nothing - is that it?
@toggledbits said in Help with Luup Reloads:
When Luup looks for a file, it will select the uncompressed file before the compressed if both are present, and this is how things get goofed up -- if you have old uncompressed files and try to update via the uploader, Luup still sees/uses the uncompressed files and ignores the newer compressed files (it doesn't check timestamps -- that would be nice!).
Never knew that. I always used the up-loader, so never came across this one. Certainly explains why someone could disappear into the quicksand pretty quickly.
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Mmmmm - interesting - I've had a very similar experience with a couple of Veras. One of the Veras; I recently turned off the WiFi and I have never heard from it since; even though it has always successfully conversed via a hardwired LAN interface for years.
akbooer I recommend you ditch the Edge - it's costing you money at about 0.24 kW hrs per day. Further still, I recommend you use openLuup. It works well and the developer? - don't stuff around. Please donate as he or she requests.
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@akbooer said in Help with Luup Reloads:
For some time, now, I had a Vera Edge running without any plugins or Z-wave devices, and, I have to say, it just runs and runs!
Erhhh - so it works great when it's doing absolutely nothing - is that it?
@toggledbits said in Help with Luup Reloads:
When Luup looks for a file, it will select the uncompressed file before the compressed if both are present, and this is how things get goofed up -- if you have old uncompressed files and try to update via the uploader, Luup still sees/uses the uncompressed files and ignores the newer compressed files (it doesn't check timestamps -- that would be nice!).
Never knew that. I always used the up-loader, so never came across this one. Certainly explains why someone could disappear into the quicksand pretty quickly.
@a-lurker said in Help with Luup Reloads:
Never knew that. I always used the up-loader, so never came across this one. Certainly explains why someone could disappear into the quicksand pretty quickly.
I have a quick bash script calling curl to update files via the web interface automatically. It's very handy when developing. I suspect @rigpapa built something similar and much more, since he's also unit testing his plug-ins...
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Anyway, I've removed the IP from every device, and I'll report back. The unit is OK ATM, but I'll check when back home from the office.
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Anyway, I've removed the IP from every device, and I'll report back. The unit is OK ATM, but I'll check when back home from the office.
@therealdb the files seem to be deleting by themselves. The plug-in itself though is still unstable though, I observed some new behaviours. I will post on the thread I started about the counter.
