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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
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@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
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Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
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I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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[Solved] Limit HA Entity in MSR
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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
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Moving MSR from a QNAP container to RP 5 - some issues
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Widget deletion does not work and landing page (status) is empy
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Need help reducing false positive notifications
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tunnusT
I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }' While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?
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Telegram & MSR 1.0.0

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  • tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits Valid question, I guess because @therealdb recommended Markdown-formatting originally and those early plugin builds defaulted to Markdown and it worked 🙂

    I'll try plain text and see what happens.

    EDIT: plain text seems to work nicely! A minor wish though, if default parsing would happen to be something else than plain text, could you add option in the GUI for it (message format drop-down)? Also MarkdownV2 is missing from that list.

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    @tunnus I honestly don’t remember when/why I’ve said that, but I’ve looked at the code and it’s simply url encoding, not replacing or escaping the text. I’ve defaulted to markdown because it’s easier to format, but you could switch to plaintext or markdownv2 very easily. There’s a note in the readme recommending the escape before sending the message, but I don’t remember when I’ve added it.

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    • toggledbitsT toggledbits

      If the old Telegram plugin on Vera is escaping those special characters, I wonder how it distinguishes between the use of a special character as part of the text and the use of special character for Markdown. For example, if you want your displayed message to contain the word "emphasis" in italics (e.g. emphasis), you would format that as _emphasis_ in Markdown. But if the plugin is escaping the special characters, you will instead see "_emphasis_" (underscores visible, no italics) because the underscores are being escaped by the plugin and won't be treated as formatting. That would be less flexible/useful, and in fact, it would almost make Markdown and plain text equivalent in that plugin, because it would prevent you from using any Markdown formatting that involves one of those special characters. I don't know, I don't use it on Vera. As I said, if you want to use Telegram with MSR, you have to format the message correctly for the parser (formatter) being used.

      Markdown V2 is the only format of Markdown MSR supports, so "Markdown" means "MarkdownV2". The default parsing format is set by the config default_parse_mode. In a default configuration, that value will be blank, so the default will be plain text.

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      @toggledbits btw, how can you reference a local variable in e.g. telegram notification?

      ${{ "power " + LightWatts + " W" }}
      

      Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 15.04.31.png

      LightWatts belongs to a rule called "Testbed variables" as shown above.

      Lastly, a feature request: as for variables shown in the screenshot above and as implemented in RfV, it would be more clear if also rule state conditions would include the rule set name. Maybe images below help understanding what I'm after:

      MSR now:
      Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 15.10.25.png

      RfV:
      Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 15.12.06.png

      Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT

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        You can't reference a variable that belongs to another rule in an expression. That's what global variables are for. They are accessible to all rule/expressions.

        This raises an interesting incongruity. As currently implemented, the Variable Value condition will allow you to reference a variable in another rule. This should have never been. It breaks the encapsulation/scope of rules. It can lead to problems because there is no guaranteed order of rule evaluation when multiple rules are triggered at the same instant, so it could lead to a situation where a variable is used in Rule B before a new value is computed by Rule A. I think, the ability to select variables that are not local to the current rule or global is on the chopping block today.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          You can't reference a variable that belongs to another rule in an expression. That's what global variables are for. They are accessible to all rule/expressions.

          This raises an interesting incongruity. As currently implemented, the Variable Value condition will allow you to reference a variable in another rule. This should have never been. It breaks the encapsulation/scope of rules. It can lead to problems because there is no guaranteed order of rule evaluation when multiple rules are triggered at the same instant, so it could lead to a situation where a variable is used in Rule B before a new value is computed by Rule A. I think, the ability to select variables that are not local to the current rule or global is on the chopping block today.

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          @toggledbits said in Telegram & MSR 1.0.0:

          Variable Value condition will allow you to reference a variable in another rule. This should have never been.

          I think, the ability to select variables that are not local to the current rule or global is on the chopping block today

          I have some rules that look at the value of a variable from another rule. The variable is not a global one currently.

          So this change will likely be a breaking change? And I will need to redo some of my rules and use Global Variables instead.

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            Yes, it would be a breaking change. I can allow any rules currently using that approach work during a deprecation period, but not allow new conditions to be created with that approach. So your rules would not screech to a halt on the upgrade, you'd have some time to find and fix them.

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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              Yes, it would be a breaking change. I can allow any rules currently using that approach work during a deprecation period, but not allow new conditions to be created with that approach. So your rules would not screech to a halt on the upgrade, you'd have some time to find and fix them.

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              @toggledbits

              OK thanks for the heads up. Some of those PS4 rules I setup recently will need changing then and maybe some others. I will have to have a look at them again.

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                Yes, it would be a breaking change. I can allow any rules currently using that approach work during a deprecation period, but not allow new conditions to be created with that approach. So your rules would not screech to a halt on the upgrade, you'd have some time to find and fix them.

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                @toggledbits

                Can a Global Expression read a local variable in a ruleset ?

                I think the answer to this is no, I've just tried it and got an error.

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                  No, that's out of scope.

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    Don't go too far with it just yet. I'm just considering the change. I need time to consider its full impact. The status quo can also be justified, and not be sacrificed on the altar of "purity".

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      I only had two rules that would of been affected by this change. I have moved all those PS4 related expressions out to be global expressions now instead and the one other rule that was using one of those expressions as its trigger, I've edited to use the new global expression instead. None of my other rules I don't think were using a local expression from another rule.

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