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In my ongoing quest to try and retrieve as much information as I can about the amount of energy I’m using , I found out that I could use SNMP to see how much power (watts) my UPS is handling .
To do this, I installed snmpd/snmp on my Vera linked Raspberry Pi, and then ran the following command.
local command = io.popen("ssh -i /etc/dropbear/dropbear_rsa_host_key pi@192.168.102.37 'snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 1 10.10.10.103' 2>&1") local response = command:read("*a") print(response)Which returned a huge amount of information, which prompted me to ask the community here if there anything on Vera/OpenLuup that people have that can process this sort of information into a new devices and associated variables to then monitor/track going forward ?
iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Eaton 5P 1150" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.2.0 = OID: iso.3.6.1.4.1.705.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0 = Timeticks: (51435090) 5 days, 22:52:30.90 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.4.0 = STRING: "Computer Room Manager" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0 = STRING: "ups239" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.6.0 = STRING: "Computer Room" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.7.0 = INTEGER: 72 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.8.0 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.1 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.2 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.10.3.1.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.3 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.11.3.1.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.4 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.15.2.1.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.5 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.16.2.1.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.1 = STRING: "The MIB Module from SNMPv2 entities" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.2 = STRING: "SNMP Management Architecture MIB" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.3 = STRING: "Message Processing and Dispatching MIB" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.4 = STRING: "USM User MIB" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.5 = STRING: "VACM MIB" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.1 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.2 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.3 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.4 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.5 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.1.0 = INTEGER: 2 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.1.1 = INTEGER: 1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.1.2 = INTEGER: 2 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.2.1 = STRING: "LOOPBACK" iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.2.2 = STRING: "eth0" iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.3.1 = INTEGER: 24 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.3.2 = INTEGER: 6 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.4.1 = INTEGER: 1500 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.4.2 = INTEGER: 1500 etc.... -
Looks like the wasp in the Box has a new competitor, I received this information this morning and am posting it whilst looking for comment - 🙂
Detecting Chest and Abdomen expansion sounds a little to far fetched for me, but I like the idea if it really works.LifeBeing Sensor
Zigbee module & MCU SDK
bacc874e-8dc0-4c49-b24f-631b342e57e0-image.pngState-of-Art Technology
It's based on 5.8Ghz microwave motion detection technology. And the patented low impedance antenna and exclusive occupancy sensing Algorithm are used to sensor human presence by detecting expansion of chest and abdomen during human respiration. Combined, they can effectively avoid the airflow interference from air conditioning and exhaust, to achieve accurate human detection
Multi-state RecognitionIt can interact with different lights, air conditioners, background music, etc. based on the activeness of human motion. For example, lights turned fully on when it detects active human motion
Independent Flush-mounted DesignNot limited to LED lamps and can be well hidden in the existing lighting environment to avoid any damage
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General discussion on all things MQTT.
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When I stopped calling it a smart home and started calling it a home automation system my waf went up significantly. Go figure.
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Hi all
I’ve been on a mission for a while now to try and track down where all the energy we use is going (so I can explain the exorbitantly high electricity bill !) .
I’ve done a few posts on this subject already, see below..
https://smarthome.community/topic/534/unifi-energy-report-how-can-i-retrieve-the-value-via-http/6 https://smarthome.community/topic/584/luup-hue-energy-watts-calculator/17?_=1623603224863Plus I’ve got various energy meter plugs around the house to help me too, but when compared to my CurrentCost (whole house) energy meter, I’m still unable to account for 200+ watts when i believe everything of note are switch off (so no dishwasher, no washing machine running etc.)
Tracked items so far include.. Media Centre (TV/NAS etc.), Office Desk (Laptop/PC/Monitor etc.), Hue Lights, Fridge…
What items/devices could I be missing ? What else could i create a pseudo energy (watts) calculations for ?For example (2), I‘ve got a couple of Sonos Music players, which are always on, so I’m thinking as they are a media device that report their status, i can calculate a pause/stop watts rating vs a play rating..
Any thoughts on what the missing power hungry items are in a normal house, and/or any new pseudo watt calculator ideas?
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I’ve recently started to build out my own ‘Homer’ dashboard (https://github.com/bastienwirtz/homer) and I must admit I really like what it’s given me.
Thinking about future use-cases. I can see potential for this being an alternative (albeit simple ) UI for Vera/OpenLuup..
Is anyone else using Homer ?
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Morning, gurus. Hope all is well.
Recently some of my voice activated actions have felt very laggy. Digging into it reveals that it's not the action that's slow, but the response from Alexa, To test I ran a simple speak from Reactor by pressing the 'play' button and there's a 10+ second lag between the command being queued and the voice confirmation in Alexa.
While this is not critical in terms of operation it is making some of my activities with multiple voice feedbacks take enough time to think stuff is broken 🙂
Quick log snippet (which I hope is enough shows the lag:
2021-05-28 09:46:43.371 openLuup.server:: POST /data_request HTTP/1.1 tcp{client}: 0x55fc83df7e28 2021-05-28 09:46:43.372 luup.call_action:: 22.urn:bochicchio-com:serviceId:VeraAlexa1.Say 2021-05-28 09:46:43.373 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa: addToQueue: added to queue for 22 2021-05-28 09:46:43.373 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(addToQueue@226): addToQueue: before: 0 2021-05-28 09:46:43.373 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(addToQueue@243): addToQueue: after: 1 2021-05-28 09:46:43.374 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(checkQueue@200): checkQueue: 22 - 1 in queue 2021-05-28 09:46:43.374 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(checkQueue@208): checkQueue: 22 - play next 2021-05-28 09:46:43.374 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(setVar@115): setVar("urn:bochicchio-com:serviceId:VeraAlexa1","OneTimePassCode","",22) old value "" 2021-05-28 09:46:43.374 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(sayTTS@313): Executing command [TTS]: "-e speak:'<s>Sirens would be firing</s><break time=\"0s\" />' -d \"Everywhere\"" 2021-05-28 09:46:54.309 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(setVar@115): setVar("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1","CommFailure","0",22) old value "0" 2021-05-28 09:46:54.309 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(setVar@115): setVar("urn:bochicchio-com:serviceId:VeraAlexa1","LatestResponse","sending cmd:speak:<s>Sirens would be firing</s><break time=\"0s\" /> to dev:Everywhere type:A3C9PE6TNYLTCH serial:de3b4a21ca844817bc180e826e636425 customerid:A1CVTZEBJIUFJI",22) old value "sending cmd:speak:<s>Sonic Deadline is down</s><break time=\"0s\" /> to dev:Everywhere type:A3C9PE6TNYLTCH serial:de3b4a21ca844817bc180e826e636425 customerid:A1CVTZEBJIUFJI" 2021-05-28 09:46:54.309 luup.variable_set:: 22.urn:bochicchio-com:serviceId:VeraAlexa1.LatestResponse was: sending cmd:speak:<s>Sonic Deadline is down</s><break time="0s" /> to dev:Everywhere type:A3C9PE6TNYLTCH serial:de3... now: sending cmd:speak:<s>Sirens would be firing</s><break time="0s" /> to dev:Everywhere type:A3C9PE6TNYLTCH serial:de3... #hooks:0 2021-05-28 09:46:54.309 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(nil@270): Response from Alexa.sh: "sending cmd:speak:<s>Sirens would be firing</s><break time=\"0s\" /> to dev:Everywhere type:A3C9PE6TNYLTCH serial:de3b4a21ca844817bc180e826e636425 customerid:A1CVTZEBJIUFJI" 2021-05-28 09:46:54.310 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa(sayTTS@327): Queue will be checked again in "3" secsAny ideas on cause / troubleshooting / resolution?
TIA
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I am a pretty active forum user over on the QNAP forum and there has been a number of viral threads there and on reddit about the spread of ransomware on these NAS.
I wanted to post here to say that this is a fresh reminder to be very cautious with the current state of the affair when it comes to smarthomes and the trend towards IOT we are observing from all these companies attempting to make our homes cloud dependent, opening so called "secure tunnels" to their servers which can turn into very real exposures to your LAN (home network).
In order to mitigate it, QNAP released a firmware which now has autoupdate enabled by default (reminds me one other company...) and IMHO is the climax of absurdity but in fact when I come to think about it is how the amazon echos and ecobees work for example without even offering the ability to disable.
I am in no way a security expert but have had enough exposure and interest about it to recommend using a real firewall for your home network to block these backdoors if you have a smarthome and avoid these cloud oriented platforms and devices as if they were COVID.
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Evening (at least here)
2021-02-12 18:05:02.869 luup_log:0: ALTUI: runLua(local GardenTemp = math.floor(0.5+luup.variable_get("urn:upnp-org:serviceId:TemperatureSensor1", "CurrentTemperature", 20415)) luup.call_action("urn:dlna-org:serviceId:DLNAMediaController1", "Say", {Text="The temperature outside is" ..GardenTemp.. "degrees.",Volume=40,GroupZones="Everywhere"}, 22)) 2021-02-12 18:05:02.870 luup.call_action:: 22.urn:dlna-org:serviceId:DLNAMediaController1.Say 2021-02-12 18:05:02.870 luup_log:22: VeraAlexa: addToQueue: added to queue for 22 2021-02-12 18:05:04.035 luup_log:0: ALTUI: Evaluation of lua code returned: nil
Alexa TTS has suddenly stopped here (mid afternoon)
Normally I'd replace the cookie.
When I went to the domain, I was forced to change my password. Did that and exported the cookie. But still no voice.
I can't see anything at all in the logs:But I'm sure I need to look somewhere else and damned if I can recall where. Someone give me a pointer?
TIA
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Hi came across this thought it may be worth discussing.
CORE by Oh-La LABS: Home Automation. Done Right. Just lauched their kick starter
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/core-by-oh-la-labs-home-automation-done-right#/ -
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Is there a guide somewhere on how to submit images/attachments from a smart device ?
As someone who accesses this forum from an iPad/iPhone, I don’t have the ability to drag / drop images into any posts.
What are other people doing (who are not using a traditional PC/MAC) ?
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Ezlo have made an announcement about their new web GUI.
Apr 26 EZLO WEB UI in Beta EZLO WEB UI in BetaEzlo WEB UI Beta release notes: We are releasing ability to do backup of all user data for Linux controllers with Ezlo WEB UI. It will be possible to: Create a backup. Restore from the backup Have the visibility for backup creation progress Settings Ezlo mobile apps already have support for...
Its very alpha however. Hopefully their dev's can get it in to shape and add our feature requests ?
Can you banned guys still see the screen shots on the threads?
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I have a piece of code that returns the Watts used by all the PoE devices on my home network. I’m trying to set it up on Vera so that can retrieve that value in a similar way I would retrieve a Vera variable via a http request.
The function works returns the total value when run via LuaTest, but when I try to retrieve it via luup.register_ handler, for some reason it returns the entire UniFi json file ??
Please could some help me with what’s wrong, my goal is to be able to retrieve the value , like an api so I can use it elsewhere ..
luup.register_handler("UnifiControllerPoE","UnifiWatts") function UnifiControllerPoE() local unifi_username = "unifi" local unifi_password = "unifi" local unifi_controller_ip = "192.168.1.207" local unifi_controller_port = "8443" local cookie = "/tmp/unifi_cookie_lua" -- Temp cookie file local tempfilename = "/tmp/UnifiController.tmp" -- Temp JSON output file local device = 'api/s/default/stat/device' local f = io.popen("stat -c %Y " .. tempfilename) local last_modified = f:read() --if (os.difftime (os.time(), last_modified) > 30) then -- URL for logging in, query and logging out url_login = 'curl --cookie ' .. cookie .. ' --cookie-jar ' .. cookie .. ' --insecure -H \'Content-Type: application/json\' -X POST -d \'{"password":"' .. unifi_password .. '","username":"' .. unifi_username .. '"}\' https://' .. unifi_controller_ip .. ':' .. unifi_controller_port .. '/api/login' url_open = 'curl --cookie ' .. cookie .. ' --cookie-jar ' .. cookie .. ' --insecure -s -o '..tempfilename..' --data "json={}" https://' .. unifi_controller_ip .. ':' .. unifi_controller_port .. '/' ..device url_logout = 'curl --cookie ' .. cookie .. ' --cookie-jar ' .. cookie .. ' --insecure https://' .. unifi_controller_ip .. ':' .. unifi_controller_port .. '/logout' -- Execute url -- Execute url read_login = os.execute(url_login) read_open = os.execute(url_open) read_logout = os.execute(url_logout) --end local line local file = io.open(tempfilename, "r") if file then line = file:read("*a") file:close() end return line end --print(UnifiController()) local readings = {} local total = 0 local json = require "dkjson" local u = json.decode( UnifiControllerPoE() ) --print('\n') for key,value in ipairs( u.data ) do for n, p in ipairs( value.port_table ) do --print('\t'.. tostring(p.port_idx), p.poe_enable, tonumber(p.poe_power)) -- print(p.port_idx) table.insert( readings, { value.name, tonumber(p.poe_power)}) -- populate readings table end end for _, reading in ipairs(readings) do local Variable = reading[1] local Value = reading[2] or 0 total = total + Value if Value ~= 0 then --print(Variable.. " - ".. Value, total) end end print("Total watts = " ..total) local html = "<html><head>" .. "</head>" .. "<body>" .. "<b>" .. tostring(total) .. '</b>' .. "</body></html>" return html, "text/html" -
Has anyone successfully incorporated incoming call(er) information** within an automation workflow?
I'm talking about having Alexa speak out the name and/or phone number of a caller, or activating a routine/scene based on that info.
Always been a dream of mine. Wouldn't know how to achieve it! Do they make an Ethernet/WiFi-connected CallerID box?
**from a LANDLINE, not a MOBILE PHONE (although in the case of my Google Voice #, both lines ring, and if my smartphone is home and turned on, I could see invoking Tasker somehow)
REFERENCES:
NCID - Network Caller ID
[Please file under proper category, as you see fit]
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Some of you may know that I took at shot at building an alternate geofencing solution for Vera. The core of it was system agnostic, using the OwnTracks application and AWS lambdas to track devices and keep a central data, then disseminate that to the Vera via a websocket-based plugin. It worked with other apps as well, including Tasker and GPSLogger, but of the dozen people that were testing it, most used OwnTracks.
A lot was learned in the process, not the least of which is that the success of any such solution is highly dependent on the phone and its settings. Phone manufacturers love to set things up for the longest battery life, of course, but that's usually very anti-geofencing behavior. In the case of at least one brand, it was unusable and the settings could not be modified. It was also cost-prohibitive to maintain on Amazon, as AWS grabs a dime here and a dollar there and before you know it, it added $100/month to my AWS bill, which my wife deducted from my Scotch budget. Unacceptable.
But it's quite reasonable to use OwnTracks to a local endpoint, and I could pretty easily replicate the functionality as a local application, or maybe even as an additional endpoint built into MSR's API (still separate port and process, but in the package).
So the question really is... would you do it, or would you be too concerned about the security risks associated (e.g., dynamic DNS and NAT mapping in the firewall necessary for the phone to contact the service when not on LAN)?
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After having optimized my video processing integration of 8 cameras into my openLuup based automation, I have been wondering what I could possibly improve on my setup. Instead of pestering @akbooer with petty localized console optimizations I am looking at these Apple Homepod minis as a potential improvement from my alexa based voice command system. openLuup is presently already bridged to both platforms using habridge and homekitbridge.
I am seeing two issues with Alexa:
Speed. The cloud processing of the voice commands takes ~1s (I don't use anything cloud to cloud) and I would really prefer it to be local. These devices can go a bit crazy when they lose DNS connections and sometimes do random things. Privacy because all the recordings go to the amazon cloud all the time.I have been exploring open source solutions for this but I would lose the benefit of optionally being able to go to the cloud for search information.
The downside of the homepods are that siri is not nearly as good in terms of helpfulness as alexa at this point. They also don't have a version with a screen which I found to be very useful at a couple of locations on the other hand, the sound quality of the homepod minis seem to be better than the echos...
What do you guys think?
This thread from longtime vera user @dJOS inspired me
Feb 4 Hubitat + HomeKit + HomeBridge + HomePod Mini = WOW Hubitat + HomeKit + HomeBridge + HomePod Mini = WOWHowdy all, I got a HomePod Mini very recently for my study (the audio quality is great and hand-off is magical) and to replace my iPad as the main HomeKit controller for my house (we use HomeKit mainly for Presence detection which is IMO best in class). We also have a dozen Amazon Echo's of...
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Go with me here... I recently pick up a unresponsive Vera Secure from eBay for next to nothing, thinking I’d could have a go at trying to restore it, if only as a play thing..
Situation - The power led comes on, but the internet and service leds just flash - no connection made (and even using a direct cable and Wireshark, I can’t see an arp request being made to see if it has a default in address) - I’ve also tried various reset button combinations - no luck.
Perhaps this post is a long shot, but seeing so many familiar ex Micasaverde/Vera forum names - i thought I’d at least ask - just in case anyone had any guidance/advice etc. I could use ..
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Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic” Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”
On Jan. 11, Ubiquiti Inc. [NYSE:UI] — a major vendor of cloud-enabled Internet of Things (IoT) devices such as routers, network video recorders and security cameras — disclosed that a breach involving a third-party cloud provider had exposed customer account credentials. Now a source who...
Reposting an article I got from a reddit thread.
I won't stop advocating against cloud dependence and unnecessary cloud reliance especially in the field of smarthomes.
I divested from a fairly large ubiquiti unifi system almost a year ago and I never connected my controller to their cloud service but as some may have sensed, it was a direction they were going towards. What got me off of it actually was the large disparity in product performance and a decreasing trust in the company with large amount of dubious advertising, inconsistent products for some of which the hardware could obviously not meet the marketing promises. -
So have been migrating a bunch of automations to MSR from Hubitat and no I feel like I want to have an SSD instead of SD card on my Pi3.What is an Easy way to convert to SSD from SD card on Pi with MSR. What files do I need to copy to keep my rules?
/Mattias
Apple Homepod mini
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After having optimized my video processing integration of 8 cameras into my openLuup based automation, I have been wondering what I could possibly improve on my setup. Instead of pestering @akbooer with petty localized console optimizations I am looking at these Apple Homepod minis as a potential improvement from my alexa based voice command system. openLuup is presently already bridged to both platforms using habridge and homekitbridge.
I am seeing two issues with Alexa:
- Speed. The cloud processing of the voice commands takes ~1s (I don't use anything cloud to cloud) and I would really prefer it to be local.
- These devices can go a bit crazy when they lose DNS connections and sometimes do random things.
- Privacy because all the recordings go to the amazon cloud all the time.
I have been exploring open source solutions for this but I would lose the benefit of optionally being able to go to the cloud for search information.
The downside of the homepods are that siri is not nearly as good in terms of helpfulness as alexa at this point. They also don't have a version with a screen which I found to be very useful at a couple of locations on the other hand, the sound quality of the homepod minis seem to be better than the echos...
What do you guys think?
This thread from longtime vera user @dJOS inspired me
Hubitat + HomeKit + HomeBridge + HomePod Mini = WOW
Howdy all, I got a HomePod Mini very recently for my study (the audio quality is great and hand-off is magical) and to replace my iPad as the main HomeKit controller for my house (we use HomeKit mainly for Presence detection which is IMO best in class). We also have a dozen Amazon Echo's of...
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@rafale77 said in Apple Homepod mini:
Instead of pestering @akbooer with petty localized console optimizations
Appreciate that! Nonetheless, if there’s something generally useful, then let me know. You’ll have seen that Shelly integration is proceeding, along with the MQTT server, which seems quite robust now. I’m rapidly divesting of almost all of my ZWave lighting.
I’m not into voice commands or TTS, myself, and don’t have any of those things which record speech and send it to Amazon/Google, so can’t suggest anything for you there.
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, I am trying the best I can to make everything work offline. Even though I admittedly don't use ALTUI and the console for anything than configuration/scene changes, I have been gradually removing web dependencies.
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Alright I am pulling the trigger and will be testing this out. I am finding that the last frontier of reliability/latency I have is the amazon cloud.
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@rafale77 said in Apple Homepod mini:
These devices can go a bit crazy when they lose DNS connections and sometimes do random things.
I've not had that with mine, ever...
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It seems to be specific to my set of gen2 echo dots.
My wife got really upset the other day because I tried to open my garage door 3 times with it and instead it each time actuated some blinds and some other lights which made her freak out. I have seen this occasionally after I run a router upgrade for example whereby the echo lost connection to the amazon cloud and goes crazy switching wifi networks to see if it can reach a DNS back into its server again. I already had a bias against anything cloud dependent but this behavior of disconnecting its wifi in search of cloud server (It has multiple wifi APs on the same SSID to pick from) is just not good and the resulting craziness even worse. These will be the first ones to go. -
Wow. Demon Seed experience
Yeah, I get the cloud issue. But voice recognition just ain't that simple (used to be my metier) When we do lose connectivity, we struggle to remember how to do stuff by Homewave or AltUI
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Ha yeah indeed. Not everything can be automated so some human intervention is still required. The HomePod though seem to be doing most processing locally and only fail back to the cloud when its local voice processing can't resolve the command. That's why it is so much faster. I will be testing it and if it works out, I may consider taking out all the echos which seem to still be much too cloud dependent for my liking. The voice processing is also by far the slowest part of my system taking more than 1s to do anything.
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@rafale77 said in Apple Homepod mini:
Ha yeah indeed. Not everything can be automated so some human intervention is still required. The HomePod though seem to be doing most processing locally and only fail back to the cloud when its local voice processing can't resolve the command. That's why it is so much faster. I will be testing it and if it works out, I may consider taking out all the echos.
I'm going to check a little closer but while we don't have a 100% hit rate with Alexa (sometimes the internet connection fails. More often she just gets the command wrong, and she gets confused by status not being where she is) but gut feel is response time is a lot under 1s. Granted it's not instant, but I would say sub 0.5 and by a chunk.
Will try and quantify a bit more (I guess I just found it so much quicker than Vera which was several seconds, if at all, it never worried me!)C
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Yes of course it's all relative. When you come from the vera even the ezlo feels fast of course and the speed of the echo was never a deal breaker as it is actually quite reasonable. But if it can be done locally and faster and with better privacy... I gotta try it.
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@rafale77 said in Apple Homepod mini:
Yes of course it's all relative. When you come from the vera even the ezlo feels fast of course and the speed of the echo was never a deal breaker as it is actually quite reasonable. But if it can be done locally and faster and with better privacy... I gotta try it.
This way progress lies
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I just tested a few commands from my mac mini which also provides the TTS service to my SONOS/openLuup and if the homepod is this fast, it will be a stunning difference... It is indeed processing locally first on macos for the homekit commands. There is no delay whatsoever that I can observe.
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An interesting read on local voice processing of the new echos:
Amazon’s AZ1 Neural Edge processor will make Alexa voice commands even faster
Saving you hundreds of milliseconds per query.
Edit 2:
After further testing today, I confirmed the findings from the hubitat forum thread and have pretty much decided to wind down my echo installation. I have a device in every room and this will take some time but clearly the dots are pretty poor devices in terms of speaker and microphones, the cloud dependency is excessive to the point where they behave erratically when they lose connection to their servers. In comparison my macOS, iOS devices are processing locally, faster and with much greater privacy from what I observed from my firewall. Of all the HK devices I tested, only the apple watch seem to act at the same slower speed as the echos. ciao Alexa.
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So given that we're mostly an all Mac house, can you point me at a tutorial, so I can try Siri etc?
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I'm not sure this is a viable long-term solution, because Apple isn't reaching a real customer base and they'll eventually disinvest, imho. In fact, they just stopped selling the HomePod and they'll only sell the mini.
Alexa has already won this battle and Google has won the personal assistant one. No space left for Apple, imho.
All that said, I'm with you on privacy and local only control.
I think we're still too early to have full local processing, even if something is moving (part of my job is about AI/ML, so I'm obviously extremely interested in these evolutions). I'll probably get a Fiat 500e later this year (since I'm more local for the medium-term future, all electric makes sens to me), and they started integrating Alexa natively - and it's really cool. https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-en/corporate-communications/press/amazon-s-alexa-voice-experience-now-available-on-fca-s-new-fiat-500 They'll eventually add it to all Stellantis cars (Peugeot, Citroën, Fiat, Jeep and so on). even BMW has more integration with Alexa lately. even if I have CarPlay (and I'm loving it), Hey Siri is flakey and rarely her responses are OK the first time. I have to tell her every time who my mom is, she tells me that she's taken note, and the next time she's eventually ask again... Maybe things are better in english, but here in Italy Alexa and Google Home are hands down better in comprehension.
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Vera+Zway+Openluup+my own framework
70+ Zwave Devices, a bunch of ZigBee light strips and a lot of codeMy Plug-ins => https://github.com/dbochicchio/vera (VeraAlexa, OpenSprinkler, Virtual Devices, MQTT and much more)
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You might be right, though they stuck with the homepod for 4 years now and IMHO now really have a product entry for in this market with the mini. The original homepod was just too much of a speaker and not enough of a home assistant.
One thing to think about and which actually made me decide this is the native integration of the functionality in the macOS and iOS devices. When I surveyed my home, I realized I could replace 12 echo devices with only 4 homepod minis... why? Offices already have a macos computer, some rooms have an ipad. For the rarely used rooms, I will have my phone or my watch. For the purpose of home control and basic vocal assistance, this got a much higher WAF for me. It was there all along and I only have a small number of locations where the addition of a device will be valuable. The echo shows will be replaced with much more capable and versatile ipads for example for similar prices.($250 vs $299). There is no question about Alexa's dominance but... for my use case, I had siri available all that time without realizing that it was superior. I haven't even received and tested the homepod yet... I just came to the realization that I could benefit from using siri a lot more and alexa a lot less... and in the interest of WAF, a fewer number of higher quality devices is better than a large number of cheap ones.
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@rafale77 said in Apple Homepod mini:
a fewer number of higher quality devices is better than a large number of cheap ones.
Where have I heard you say that before...?
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Hah, it's a bit like French food... I will take quality over quantity any day.
It's a very similar design philosophy difference. Alexa and all its skills (and even more so Google Home) are cloud centric just like SmartThings. Moving to HomeKit for voice control is analogous to moving from SmartThings to HomeAssistant or Hubitat. It is not cloud free. It is just not cloud dependent or even centered.
This is coming full circle for me actually since my first attempt at voice control was actually to use an iPad mini and the vera 6 years ago... The homekitbridge I am using for openLuup today is that old... -
So, to do this all I would need is Homebridge somewhere, say running in a Docker?
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I didn't even go as far as running homebridge. I installed this 6 years ago and never touched it since. This was a very large thread in the old forum.
I start the bridge server with a dependency on openLuup with a 3s delay. It starts and stops with openLuup running on the same machine.
Note that there is a 150 device per bridge limit so my fork is preventing scenes from being bridged as I have over 150 scenes alone. I am also not bridging sensors for the same reason... but if you don't have that many devices, nothing prevents you from doing it. Note also that I am running on nodeJS10 without any problems. No need to go find nodeJS5. I should probably update the readme. -
Looks very simple
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