How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?

[cw-kid]

This was working and tested previously, but now doesn't seem to be.

I turned the heating on earlier, however I have since turned if off again. However the trigger in this rule still says the current set point value is 21. Its not its currently 10.

A window was just opened and a TTS heard, which drew my attention to this rule now as it should not of fired its actions.

Vera variable now:

Thermostat device information from the Entities:

battery_power.level=0.49
battery_power.since=1620139135000
hvac_control.mode=null
hvac_control.state=null
hvac_heating_unit.setpoint=21
hvac_heating_unit.state=null
hvac_heating_unit.units="c"
power_switch.state=null
value_sensor.units="c"
value_sensor.value=18.1
x_vera_device.configured=true
x_vera_device.device_number=189
x_vera_device.device_type="urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:Heater:1"
x_vera_device.failed=false
x_vera_device.mapped_by="*;device_type=urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:Heater:1"
x_vera_device.mapped_class="heatonly_thermostat"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.AutoConfigure="-1"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.BatteryDate="1620139135"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.BatteryLevel="49"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.CommFailure="0"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.CommFailureAlarm="1612455867,0"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.CommFailureTime="0"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.Commands="heater_setpoint"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.Configured="1"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.FirstConfigured="1485879775"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.LastUpdate="1607103908"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.ModeSetting="1:;2:H,10.0;3:H,10.0;4:H,10.0"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.PollRatings="5.00"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.WakeupRatings="5.00"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.sl_BatteryAlarm="0"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.AssociationGet="2,190,;"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.AssociationNum="5"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.AssociationSet="2,190"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.Capabilities="18,150,0,1,8,0,B,|49:1,67,112,114,128,132:2,133,134,"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.ConfiguredAssoc="2,190"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.ConfiguredName=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.ConfiguredVariable="1-variable 1,1d,255,2-variable 2,1d,1,3-variable 3,1d,10"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.ConfiguredWakeupInterval="300"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.FirmwareInfo=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.LastArr="1620138237,69"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.LastNnu="1620137632,69"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.LastReset="1485882104"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.LastRouteUpdate="1620109432"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.LastWakeup="1620152934"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.ManufacturerInfo="89,1,3"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.MeterScale=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.MeterType=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.MultiChCapabilities=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.MultiChEndpoint=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.NodeInfo="31,43,70,72,80,84,85,86,"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.PollNoReply="378"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.PollOk="16295"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.PollSettings="10800"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.SensorBiType=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.SensorMlScale=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.SensorMlType=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.SetPointInfo="H1,"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.SubscribedAlarms=""
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.TemperatureScale="1,0,2"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.VariablesGet="1,255,2,1,3,10,"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.VariablesSet="1-variable 1,1d,255,2-variable 2,1d,1,3-variable 3,1d,10"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.VersionInfo="2,2,78,6,0"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1.WakeupInterval="300"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.ConsecutivePollFails="0"
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.LastPollSuccess="1620149034"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.LoadLevelTarget="58"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_HVAC_UserOperatingMode1.ModeStatus="HeatOn"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_SwitchPower1.Target="0"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSensor1.CurrentTemperature="18.10"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1.AllSetpoints="10.00,0.00,5.00"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1.CurrentSetpoint="10.00"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1.NewCurrentSetpointC="23"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1.NewCurrentSetpointF="73.4"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1.Range="0,0/0,0;0,0/0,0;5,30/41,86"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1.SetpointTarget="10.00"
x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1_Heat.CurrentSetpoint="21.00"
zwave_device.capabilities="18,150,0,1,8,0,B,|49:1,67,112,114,128,132:2,133,134,"
zwave_device.failed=false
zwave_device.manufacturer_info="89,1,3"
zwave_device.node_id=57
zwave_device.version_info="2,2,78,6,0"
Capabilities: battery_power, hvac_control, hvac_heating_unit, power_switch, toggle, value_sensor, x_vera_device, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HVAC_OperatingState1, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveDevice1, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_HVAC_UserOperatingMode1, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_SwitchPower1, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSensor1, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1_Heat, zwave_device
Actions: hvac_control.set_mode, hvac_heating_unit.set_setpoint, power_switch.off, power_switch.on, toggle.toggle, x_vera_device.set_variable, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.AllowPairing, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.Poll, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.Reconfigure, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.Remove, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.SetPollFrequency, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.StressTest, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_HaDevice1.ToggleState, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.AddNodes, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.BackupDongle, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.DownloadNetwork, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.HealNetwork, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.PollAllNodes, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.PutByte, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.ReconfigureAllNodes, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.RemoveNodes, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.ResetNetwork, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.SendData, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.SetPolling, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.SimulateIncomingData, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.UpdateNeighbors, x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_ZWaveNetwork1.UpdateNetwork, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.PauseRamp, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.ResumeRamp, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.SetLoadLevelTarget, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.SetOnEffect, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.SetOnEffectLevel, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.SetRampRate, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.SetStepDelta, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.StartRampDown, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.StartRampToLevel, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.StartRampUp, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.StepDown, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.StepUp, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_Dimming1.StopRamp, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_HVAC_UserOperatingMode1.SetEnergyModeTarget, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_HVAC_UserOperatingMode1.SetModeTarget, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_HVAC_UserOperatingMode1.SetName, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_SwitchPower1.SetTarget, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSensor1.SetApplication, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSensor1.SetName, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1.SetApplication, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1.SetCurrentSetpoint, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1.SetName, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1_Heat.SetApplication, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1_Heat.SetCurrentSetpoint, x_vera_svc_upnp_org_TemperatureSetpoint1_Heat.SetName, zwave_device.poll

In the rule if I change the trigger to use this Entity Attribute instead, then now its correctly showing 10 as the current set point.

[toggledbits]

There's nothing new here. The device type Heater1 implements both the TemperatureSetpoint_Heat and TemperatureSetpoint services, so it's ambiguous as to which would be the correct one to use, and one might hope that Vera (or the plugin responsible for this device) would keep them in sync. What kind of device is this?

[cw-kid]

@toggledbits

It's a Secure SRT321 thermostat.

Something has changed somewhere, as I said when I created this rule I tested it was working as intended.

Today MSR had detected that I'd set the thermostat to 21 degrees. But when I set it back to 10 degrees, MSR didn't detect that.

Thanks

[toggledbits]

Did you set it the same way each time? Or perhaps through your dashboard one time and the Vera UI the other? Did you upgrade firmware since setting it up?

[cw-kid]

@toggledbits

Pretty sure both times I manually turned the dial on the front of the actual thermostat device.

No I have not updated the Vera firmware.

I will set the Entity Attribute back to the MSR native one and test again some more.

Thanks.

[cw-kid]

hvac_heating_unit.setpoint seems to be working OK again now. The setpoint current value is changing in the rules trigger OK, when I move the dial up or down on the thermostat device.

So not sure why it got stuck at 21 yesterday and didn't change back to 10 when I turned the heating off by setting it to 10.

Will keep an eye on it.

Thanks

[toggledbits]

Test by dial and by Vera UI and by MSR UI. I'm guessing there may be an inconsistency in the 'driver" (Vera internals) and there may be one or more cases where the variables aren't kept in sync.

[cw-kid]

@toggledbits

Think I see what's happening here.

I just turned on the Heating via a Vera scene, this scene sets the Setpoint to 23 degrees.

However the MSR rule is now still reporting the Current Set Point value as 10 degrees which is incorrect.

So I think what happened yesterday when I noticed this issue, was that I turned on the heating by using the dial on the thermostat device, but I must of turned the heating off via the Vera "Heating Off" scene which I called via a voice command to the Google Home speaker.

The Vera "Heating Off" scene sets the Set Point to 10 degrees.

Here is a screenshot of the "Heating On" scene in Vera.

Thinking about it, when I first created this MSR rule some weeks ago, I only tested it by using the dial on the actual thermostat device.

I didn't also test the rule by running my Vera scenes that also turn on / off the heating.

[toggledbits]

So then it appears then that when Vera updates the device from itself (ZWave), it sets both variables, but when you run the action, they only apply the change to one. Well, I'll switch it to the one the UI uses. That's sure to break some other device, but we can cross that bridge when we come to it.

[cw-kid]

@toggledbits

Don't break anything on my account, I can just use the x_vera_svc Entity Attribute instead as that one seems to work OK.