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Existing Rule stopped working HTTP command fetching IP address from website
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Raspberry Pi 4 dual RAM variant introduced to mitigate RAM price increases
toggledbitsT
Article here that may be of interest to some: https://www.cnx-software.com/2026/02/05/raspberry-pi-4-dual-ram-variant-introduced-to-mitigate-ram-price-increases-and-supply-challenges/
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Condition for trend
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Set reaction triggering wrong z-wave device
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Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?
cw-kidC
Looking at using Home Assistant for the first time, either on a Home Assistant Green, their own hardware or buying a cheap second hand mini PC. Sounds like Home Assistant OS is linux based using Docker for HA etc. Would I also be able to install things like MSR as well on their OS ? On the same box? Thanks.
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RPi Alternative: Orange Pi 4 LTS (3GB RAM/16GB eMMC)
toggledbitsT
The last of four boards I'm trying in this batch is the Orange Pi 4 LTS. I purchased a 3GB RAM + 16GB eMMC model from Amazon for $83, making it the most costly of the four boards tried, but still well under my US$100 limit. This board is powered by a Rockchip RK3399-T processor, ARM-compatible with dual Cortex-A72 cores and quad Cortex-A53 cores at 1.6Ghz (1.8Ghz for the 4GB model); compare this to the RPi 3B+ with four Cortex-A53 and the RPi 4B with four Cortex-A72, this board is a hybrid that I would expect to stand in the performance middle between the two RPi models. It's available in 3GB and 4GB DDR4 RAM configurations, with and without 16GB eMMC storage. It has a MicroSDHC slot, gigabit Ethernet, WiFi and BT, two USB 2.0 type A ports, one USB 3.0 type C port, a mini PCIe ribbon-cable connector (requires add-on board for standard connector), two each RPi-compatible camera and LCD ports, HDMI type A, and can be powered (5VDC/3A) via USB-C or DC type C (3.8mm OD/1.1mm ID) jack (center-positive), an odd and perhaps unwelcome departure from the more common type A (5.5mm/2.1mm). A serial port for console/debug can be connected by using a (not included) USB-TTL adapter (3.3V) via pin headers like the Orange Pi Zero 2. The included dual-band antenna connects via U.FL connector to the board, so it's easy substituting for another if you prefer. The manufacturer recommends use of a heat sink (which was included in the box). A metal cooling case is also offered by the manufacturer (a bundle with the metal case and a power supply is sold on Amazon for $90 as of this writing). The Orange Pi 4 LTS is somewhat longer than the RPi 4B, and although the boards are the same width, the mounting hole placement is different both in length and (oddly) width. Between this and the differences in connector locations, neither board is a drop-in replacecment for the other and their respective cases are not interchangeable. The 26-pin header is a subset of the RPi 4B's 40-pin header, so some HATs for the RPi may work (although the mounting hole differences will make securing them "interesting"), and some HATs will surely not. Models with eMMC storage have an OS installed and boot immediately with SSH daemon running and ready for login. Mine was running Debian Bullseye, which would probably be fine for most users. It had clearly been on there a while, because it needed a lot of updates, but it's a current distro, so you're running out of the box with something that will last. A different OS can be installed by downloading an image (once again I chose Ubuntu Jammy) and writing it to a MicroSD card, then booting the system from the SD card. You can either leave the system in that state (running the OS from the SD card), or copy the OS from the SD card to the eMMC. The latter is done by a script; documentation for the process is best described in the downloadable PDF User Manual. This took about 10 minutes and went smoothly, and I was able to boot the system without the SD card after the process completed. I have lingering questions around the value of the eMMC storage. It's definitely faster than using MicroSD or USB-based storage (I got 311MB/s average on a 4GB write, compared to MicroSD performance around 15MB/s), but it would take a long-term test of this product to determine if the on-board eMMC option has the stamina to take the write counts typical of Linux systems, and if its wear-leveling and error correction are sufficient to assure a long, error-free life. Given the high premium apparently being paid for including eMMC on the board, it should be fast and durable, but only time and experience (perhaps painful) would tell the latter. A careful configuration with other Flash-friendly filesystems could be used to reduce wear, but this is an advanced configuration/cookbook topic and beyond the scope of this writing. This question is also not unique to eMMC — MicroSD cards are also known to fail with high write cycles, so the use of a "high endurance" product is recommended for any and all systems using MicroSD as primary storage. The board has Mini PCIe capability, and that may be a storage alternative, but read on... Also bear in mind that the eMMC storage is fixed-size forever; it cannot be expanded, and 16GB can run out pretty quickly these days. Users of MicroSD cards for primary storage can upgrade to bigger cards, but when users of eMMC primary storage outgrow it, the only choice is to add a MicroSD card or other "external" storage to the system, move part of the filesystem to it, and then manage both storage devices and deal with the limitations and risks of both. As I mentioned with the Orange Pi Zero 2, if you are going to use this board as a home automation controller/gateway or similar role, it should (IMO) have a battery-backed real time clock (RTC), and Orange Pi offers an add-on module that connects directly to the 26-pin header on the board. An available expansion board provides a standard Mini PCIe interface and SIM card slot (hmm...), but it connects to the main board via a short ribbon cable, and its mounting holes have no complement on the main board, so it seems like it would be a fragile dangly thing that's a nuisance to deal with. I want to like this board more, and it's very capable, but I'm concerned about value. The limited options for eMMC (16GB or none), the question mark of the eMMC's longevity vs cost, the strange DC power connector choice, the lack of 40-pin GPIO on a full-size (plus) board, the inconsistent hole placement, and the fragile Mini PCIe arrangement, are all "cons" that devalue this board in my view. The price point is clearly driven by the additional capabilities of the board (camera support, ports, six core CPU, extra RAM, on-board eMMC storage), but unfortunately, a great many of these features may not be useful for home automation, and therefore potentially a waste of money. In terms of overall value, I still believe the Libre "Le Potato" seems a better choice to me, and the Orange Pi Zero 2 (very) a close second, but I'll admit I'm focused on a particular application and your needs may be better suited to what this board offers than mine. Passmark Results: OrangePi 4 LTS Cortex-A72 (aarch64) 6 cores @ 1200 MHz | 2.9 GiB RAM Number of Processes: 6 | Test Iterations: 1 | Test Duration: Medium -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU Mark: 583 Integer Math 12037 Million Operations/s Floating Point Math 2542 Million Operations/s Prime Numbers 4.5 Million Primes/s Sorting 3141 Thousand Strings/s Encryption 153 MB/s Compression 4049 KB/s CPU Single Threaded 154 Million Operations/s Physics 80.5 Frames/s Extended Instructions (NEON) 244 Million Matrices/s Memory Mark: 498 Database Operations 551 Thousand Operations/s Memory Read Cached 2524 MB/s Memory Read Uncached 2602 MB/s Memory Write 3182 MB/s Available RAM 1947 Megabytes Memory Latency 119 Nanoseconds Memory Threaded 6243 MB/s --------------- eMMC storage write 311MB/s average for 4GB; MicroSD (Samsung 32GB class 10) storage write 15MB/s.
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RPi Alternative: Orange Pi Zero 2 (1GB)
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RPi Alternative: Libre Computer AML-S905X-CC "Le Potato" (2GB RAM)
toggledbitsT
With Raspberry Pi boards continuing to be relatively scarce, I've been trying a few alternatives to see what may be usable and good. I had previously written about the Jetson Nano 2GB, which is great, but a little pricey, so I'm trying to find sub-US$100 boards that will run Reactor. I've got four that I'm trying now, but one in particular goes right to work in the most predictable way and seems worth a mention immediately: the Libre Computer Board AML-S905X-CC 2GB (known as "Le Potato"). The form factor is very similar to that of the Raspberry Pi 3 B+, and has comparable CPU (ARM Cortex-A53, quad 64-bit cores at 1.5+GHz -- slightly higher clock speed). It's US$35 on Amazon and LoverPi in the (recommended) 2GB configuration, and easy to get. Startup is like RPi: download one of the available OS images (Ubuntu, Raspbian, Debian, ARMbian, etc.) from their site and write the image to a MicroSD card, insert into slot, power up, and off you go. I tried the Ubuntu 22.04 image first and it comes right up. No problem getting nodejs 18.12.1 installed and running (with Reactor). No WiFi on board, but I don't see that as a minus for use as a controller/hub (which should be hard-wired, IMO). The 40-pin GPIO connector is compatible with typical RPi HATs (PoE, breakouts, etc.). There is an available eMMC (solid state storage) module to use instead of MicroSD, which I would recommend for long-term use. It runs US$25 for 32GB (64GB and 128GB available). The module is scarcely larger than the chip it carries, and has the smallest board-to-board connector I've ever seen. Next up: ESPRESSObin 2GB (spoiler: it's... technical...)
SBC
HA and AI
CatmanV2C
Having hours of (actually quite fun) interaction with AI (Chat GPT) making up dashboards and sensors for HA. It's OK (well it's better than I am!) but it makes soooo many mistakes. Gets there in the end though, if you've half a clue (which I do half the time) C
Home Assistant
How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
Multi-System Reactor
This trigger no longer working - complaining about the operator needing changing
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Self test
CatmanV2C
Having been messing around with some stuff I worked a way to self trigger some tests that I wanted to do on the HA <> MSR integration This got me wondering if there's an entity that changes state / is exposed when a configured controller goes off line? I can't see one but thought it might be hidden or something? Cheers C
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
Multi-System Reactor
Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
Multi-System Reactor
Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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  • Runtime error latest-24366 when Create New Reaction
    B basai

    Confirming that 25016 has indeed resolved the error.

    Thank you !!

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Runtime error latest-24366 when Create New Reaction
    B basai

    @toggledbits Howdy, the error is as I posted and doesn't show that information. I took the instructions not to upload a screen shot too literally I suppose, apologies.

    Here is what it looks like on my end on Safari, and Firefox in OS X Sequoia.

    Screenshot 2025-01-17 at 11.09.04 AM.png

    Thanks,
    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Runtime error latest-24366 when Create New Reaction
    B basai

    Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-24366-3de60836
    Running on Proxmox 8 VM
    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
    Docker version 27.5.0, build a187fa5
    Docker Compose version v2.32.3
    Browsers being used on Mac OS Sequoia: Safari, Firefox also occurs with Safari on iPhone 16 Pro 18.2.1

    This occurs on two different instances of MSR running at two different locations having the same environment detailed above.

    When I select "Reactions->Create Reaction" I get an error window with a red “Runtime Error:” banner. Note that I can edit and save existing Reactions

    —-------------------<SNIP>————————————
    Runtime Error:

    @http://192.168.119.137:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reactor-ui-reactions.js:445:34

    You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.
    ---------------------</SNIP>————————

    apt update, apt upgrade, reboot have been performed as well as
    docker system prune -a
    docker compose down
    docker compose up -d

    Many thanks in advance,
    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor

  • MSR SMTP Notifications fail - <wsapi:CRIT> Error: Engine has not been started
    B basai

    That was likely it now that you mention it. I did have a problem awhile back where I fat fingered a 2:00AM cron job that was supposed to trim backup files to only keep the last x days of *.tar.gz files which filled the partition. I bet the file date reflects when that happened 🙂

    Thanks again for the help and clarifying. Take care,
    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor

  • MSR SMTP Notifications fail - <wsapi:CRIT> Error: Engine has not been started
    B basai

    Thanks for the input.

    I'm not sure if deleting this zero length file was the right thing to do or not but it fixed the problem, the engine starts now and SMTP works.

    From the log:
    [latest-23218]2023-08-21T20:55:09.695Z <IndividualFileStrategy:ERR> [IndividualFileStrategy][IndividualFileStrategy#/var/reactor/storage/states] failed to read cs-rule-lbhys108 in /var/reactor/storage/states/cs-rule-lbhys108.json: 
    

    So basically the file /var/reactor/storage/states/cs-rule-lbhys108.json had a file length of "0"
    -rwx------ 1 501 staff 0 Jul 20 02:00 cs-rule-lbhys108.json

    I moved the file in question to a tmp directory, restarted reactor, the engine started and SMTP works now.

    Question:
    Was moving / effectively deleting this file from reactors view a bad thing to do that will cause future problems and is there anything else that need to do other than getting rid of that zero length file?

    Thanks,
    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor

  • MSR SMTP Notifications fail - <wsapi:CRIT> Error: Engine has not been started
    B basai

    MSR Version: latest-23218
    Running as Docker Container : Docker version 24.0.5, build ced0996
    OS: Linux 15BPMSR1 6.1.26-05272-g26c406245a2c #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Apr 27 10:15:40 UTC 2023 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux

    SMTP notifications had been working fine and I am unsure exactly what action(s) stopped it from working.

    I have verified that the SMTP server configured in notifications.yml is working properly.

    To duplicate the problem I am forcing an SMTP email notification using the set reaction play button, the reactor.log shows the following errors:

    [latest-23218]2023-08-21T14:23:22.462Z <wsapi:ERR> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 can't queue reaction rule-lgxmrba4:S: [Error] Engine has not been started [-]
    [latest-23218]2023-08-21T14:23:22.463Z <wsapi:CRIT> Error: Engine has not been started [-]
    Error: Engine has not been started
        at Engine.queueReaction (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Engine.js:1494:46)
        at WSAPI.clientMessage (/opt/reactor/server/wsapi/wsapi.js:782:64)
        at WebSocket.<anonymous> (/opt/reactor/server/wsapi/wsapi.js:301:157)
        at WebSocket.emit (node:events:527:28)
        at WebSocket.emit (node:domain:475:12)
        at Receiver.receiverOnMessage (/opt/reactor/node_modules/ws/lib/websocket.js:1068:20)
        at Receiver.emit (node:events:527:28)
        at Receiver.emit (node:domain:475:12)
        at Receiver.dataMessage (/opt/reactor/node_modules/ws/lib/receiver.js:517:14)
        at Receiver.getData (/opt/reactor/node_modules/ws/lib/receiver.js:435:17)
    
    

    I have tried:

    OS level: apt udate and apt upgrade and reboot

    docker pull toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64
    latest-aarch64: Pulling from toggledbits/reactor
    Digest: sha256:d8a019d457c9fef61f7c3e6908db1f1d0a2d14b6f7c5e9d4fc536c791503d152
    Status: Image is up to date for toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64
    docker.io/toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64
    

    docker stop reactor
    docker start reactor

    docker compose down
    docker compose up -d

    To no avail.

    I feel like I'm missing something obvious but can't put my finger on it.

    Thank you in advance for any guidance.
    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Smart bed sensor
    B basai

    I think this would be an interesting sensor to have. I’m guessing you are sensing pressure / weight and returning a numeric value based on that vs a simple open / close. The reason being you is that you would need a base (empty bed) value in order to make decisions whether someone / thing is in bed or not or how many are in bed for that matter. The second reason is that beds have different numbers of legs depending on the type of bed and therefore weight distribution comes into the picture, so sensing pressure or weight vs open / close seems like it would give you more options and even interest from other markets.

    Meaning, if this is a pressure / weight type sensor it could have other applications as well expanding your market. For example, I have a salt tank that holds a few hundred pounds of salt for my water treatment system. I could record the initial numeric values at different levels and use that information to know when it is low and needs more salt. I would be interested in doing that.

    Just my $.02

    Take care and good luck.

    -bh

    General Discussion

  • Is latest-22337 in DockerHub?
    B basai

    Howdy,

    Has anyone successfully installed 22337 via Docker Hub?

    I'm currently running latest-22310 on Qnap NAS 5.0.0.1986

    My usual method which is normally successful, is that in the Qnap CLI I run a docker pull (stdout below of what I got for 22337):

    >basai ~]$ docker pull toggledbits/reactor:latest-amd64
    > latest-amd64: Pulling from toggledbits/reactor
    > 8663204ce13b: Already exists 
    > 8c392e9e905c: Already exists 
    > 36ce72f2f129: Already exists 
    > 2e8529c47e46: Already exists 
    > 26c2865d7fe4: Pull complete 
    > b45a2cf2a065: Pull complete 
    > ac02d13d40de: Pull complete 
    > 2bd82a6d3d8c: Pull complete 
    > Digest: sha256:a192e403200a62664cec40f40f61499218ac9a0cae3b8ed8390f87679505105d
    > Status: Downloaded newer image for toggledbits/reactor:latest-amd64
    > docker.io/toggledbits/reactor:latest-amd64
    

    But when I go into the Qnap's container station (part of my usual process) and search for reactor and do the install for 'latest-amd64' it installs latest-22310 and not latest-22337.

    Sanity checking before I go down the path of chasing down Qnap and/or Container Station problems.

    TIA
    -b

    Multi-System Reactor

  • What am I missing with this rule not setting?
    B basai

    I'm not exactly sure here trying to follow the logic, but since you are using constraints, could that be the reason? Meaning, there is a section in the manual that talks about constraints eg: "Unlike triggers, changes in the conditions of constraints do not cause the rule to set or unset. They are only used as filter to allow or prevent the rule from setting."

    Multi-System Reactor

  • 🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
    B basai

    Happy Birthday !! Also, thanks for doing this. Take care, -b

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Can a rule be used to disable other rules?
    B basai

    Thank you all for your responses, you are an awesome bunch in this group and I have what I was looking for.

    Essentially toggling a rule as active or inactive can only be done manually, so I wasn't going crazy because this was something I could do in the Vera Reactor to another Reactor 🙂

    I have been using toggles in HAAS to toggle a state which I include as a 'constraint' within multiple MSR rules which works.

    What I was looking for is more of a 'kill switch’ to completely disable a rule or set of rules for reasons that come up from time to time where I manually disable them so there is no chance of them running. Not a show stopper by any means.

    Thanks again,
    -b

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  • Can a rule be used to disable other rules?
    B basai

    Howdy,

    My goal is to have a rule that when triggered will disable other certain pre-defined rule sets, but I can't seem to find a way to do it in MSR. Is it possible?

    In the MSR UI, rule sets are toggled manually to be enabled (green) and disabled (red). I would like to do this from within a rule.

    Running MSR version latest-22274-24dfd72c

    TIA,
    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor

  • MSR Set Reaction not working anymore
    B basai

    Howdy, Honestly I didn’t really think this was an MSR Set Reaction pandemic and was more than likely a locally induced error of some sort.

    This is fixed now based on something you said in your last reply suspecting an update problem which pulled me out of a loop and put me on the right path.

    Summary: Upgrading to latest-22274 fixed the problem but QNAP’s Container Station using the Docker Hub Tab would only download and install latest-22179. Not sure if this is a QNAP bug or feature.

    Detail: For the benefit of any QNAP NAS users out there I’ll explain.

    Using QNAP NAS’s Container Station, searching for “reactor” in the “Docker Hub” tab I would select "latest-amd64”, but it would only install latest-22179 and not the actual latest-22274. Picking up the NAS and shaking it a few times, turning it off and on again, or putting more quarters in it didn't help.

    In the past I didn’t find a need to do the following since I believe Container Station should be doing this all by self, and if not, user error on my part.

    So to fix this I ssh’d to the QNAP NAS CLI and ran.

    docker pull toggledbits/reactor:latest-amd64
    

    Which returned the following, I was feeling optimistic seeing the "pull completes' "

    [basai@basai ~]$ docker pull toggledbits/reactor:latest-amd64
    latest-amd64: Pulling from toggledbits/reactor
    8663204ce13b: Already exists 
    8c392e9e905c: Already exists 
    36ce72f2f129: Already exists 
    2e8529c47e46: Already exists 
    26c2865d7fe4: Pull complete 
    b45a2cf2a065: Pull complete 
    ac02d13d40de: Pull complete 
    2bd82a6d3d8c: Pull complete 
    Digest: sha256:a192e403200a62664cec40f40f61499218ac9a0cae3b8ed8390f87679505105d
    Status: Downloaded newer image for toggledbits/reactor:latest-amd64
    docker.io/toggledbits/reactor:latest-amd64
    [basai@basai ~]$
    

    After this completed, now when I went to create a new docker by going into container station, searching for “reactor” in the “Docker Hub Tab” and selected “latest-amd64” it correctly installed latest-22274 and also pre-populated the NODE_PATH variable correctly which wasn’t happening before.

    Problem solved and MSR is working as expected again.

    Thanks you for your help, MSR Rocks!
    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor

  • MSR Set Reaction not working anymore
    B basai

    @toggledbits

    Apologies for the confusion.

    I was trying to indicate, although poorly, that I did install 'latest' at first which didn't correct the problem and then opted to go with 'stable' thinking that was the better choice.

    As far as the MSR Set Reaction using haas vs vera per my report, I was testing both and neither worked when the rule is triggered, however the light does turn off when I manually select the play button next to the Set Reaction Rule for either the set haas or vera case. Unfortunately I neglected to reflect that correctly in my report and hence the mismatch / confusion

    HTH
    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor

  • MSR Set Reaction not working anymore
    B basai

    Iron: QNAP NAS
    Running MSR and HAAS on Docker (QNAP Container Station)
    Reactor (Multi-hub) stable-22203-81a2f3cc
    Home Assistant Core 2022.6.7
    Vera 1.7.5186 (7.31)
    Config files are stored in shared volumes on the NAS.
    Office light in example is joined to Vera-Plus

    Hello all,

    I decided to upgrade MSR to latest-amd64. It wasn’t until afterwards that I noticed all rulesets broken. So unfortunately I’m not sure if this was already broken before or I broke it after upgrading. Yes poor judgement on my part for being complacent.

    Never the less, this is broken globally across all rulesets, even though I can see the triggers change to “True” (Turn green).

    For this example, I have a boolean helper toggle in HAAS called “TV MODE HAAS SW”.

    When toggled ‘on’, MSR should turn my Vera office light OFF and it doesn’t, but if I manually select the play button to the right of the line in the Set Reaction, it executes properly and turns off the Vera office light.

    The MSR Rule does not have any Constraints set.

    I can see in MSR it recognizes the state changes yet doesn’t execute the “Set Reaction”.

    Any help greatly appreciated.

    Log files from reactor.log and screen shots to follow:

    Reactor.log when toggling the haas helper, Set Reaction doesn’t execute.

    [stable-22203]2022-10-02T21:21:34.799Z <Rule:INFO> TV MODE ON (Rule#rule-l2hvuz8r) starting evaluation; because entity-changed Entity#hass>input_boolean_tv_mode
    [stable-22203]2022-10-02T21:21:34.800Z <Rule:INFO> TV MODE ON (Rule#rule-l2hvuz8r) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to SET!
    [stable-22203]2022-10-02T21:21:34.819Z <Rule:INFO> TV MODE ON (Rule#rule-l2hvuz8r) evaluation complete
    [stable-22203]2022-10-02T21:21:34.820Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "TV MODE ON<SET>" (rule-l2hvuz8r:S)
    [stable-22203]2022-10-02T21:21:34.835Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction TV MODE ON<SET> (rule-l2hvuz8r:S)
    [stable-22203]2022-10-02T21:21:34.835Z <Engine:INFO> TV MODE ON<SET> all actions completed.
    

    Reactor.log when manually triggering the Set Reaction with the play button which correctly turns off the light

    [stable-22203]2022-10-02T21:23:25.035Z <HassController:null> HassController#hass: sending payload for power_switch.off on Entity#hass>light_office_86 action: [Object]{ "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "entity_id": "light.office_86" }, "domain": "homeassistant", "service": "turn_off" }
    

    When toggled ON
    toggled_on.png

    Rule config screen
    tv_mode_config.png

    Multi-System Reactor

  • git hub docker container not available?
    B basai

    It may be that you need to pull "latest-[flavor]" and not just "latest" eg: latest-amd64 etc. dependent on the image specific to your installation type.
    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Is a global timestamp expression possible ?
    B basai

    @toggledbits Thank you for the reply and solution.

    What confused me was that as an expression created within a Rule it worked fine, but now that I read your reply I see why, this was a "Doh!" on my part, I hadn't thought of it like that.

    Thanks again!,
    -b

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Is a global timestamp expression possible ?
    B basai

    I’ve looked and can’t find the answer which concerns me that the answer is obvious and thats why I can't find the answer to this.

    I’m new to MSR and this is my first post, so please bare with me 🙂

    What I’m trying to do is have a global expression that contains the current time so I can use it in Global reactions as well as Rulesets as part of my syslog messages.

    Example of what I’m experiencing:
    In Expressions, create a global expression: gMyTOD = strftime("%T %D”)
    In Rulesets, in a rule, create a local expression: MyTOD = strftime("%T %D”)

    In that same rule create a Notify type of Syslog.
    Set syslog message to: gMyTOD time is ${{gMyTOD}} and MyTOD time is ${{MyTOD}}
    Trigger the rule.

    The result is that the local expression (MyTOD) contains the correct time but the global expression (gMyTOD) does not update and reflects the wrong time in the final syslog message.

    Is there a different approach I should be using?

    Thank you in advance for any insight.

    -bh

    Multi-System Reactor
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