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Intveltr

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HA and AI
CatmanV2C
Having hours of (actually quite fun) interaction with AI (Chat GPT) making up dashboards and sensors for HA. It's OK (well it's better than I am!) but it makes soooo many mistakes. Gets there in the end though, if you've half a clue (which I do half the time) C
Home Assistant
How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
Multi-System Reactor
Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
Multi-System Reactor
VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
S
I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
Multi-System Reactor
Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
Multi-System Reactor
Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
CrilleC
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
therealdbT
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Multi-System Reactor
Genuinely impressed with Zigbee and HA / Reactor
CatmanV2C
Just for the record, in case anyone is following, I'm really rather impressed. I have installed one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B6P22YJC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 That's connected (physically) to the VM running on my Synology, with a 2m USB extension. The same host also runs Openluup, Mosquito, HA Bridge. Yesterday I installed Zigbee2mqtt. That was a bit of a PITA but mostly because of ports and permissions. Once up and running, and the correct boxes ticked, immediately visible in Home Assistant via the MQTT integration, and thence into Reactor I've only got two devices. I bought the cheapest sensor I could find, which is a door sensor. Dead easy to add to ZIgbee2mqtt and again, immediately visible in HA. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FPQLWRW1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title The dongle is on the top floor of the house, and I wanted the sensor on the back door (just about as far apart as it's possible to get short of going into the garage) When I moved the sensor downstairs it dropped out pretty instantly (which wasn't a huge surprise) so quick bit of research found out that smart plugs will act as routers so... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FDQDPGBB?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title Took me about 30 seconds to connect. Updated the name. Instantly visible in Reactor with the new name pushed over from Zigbee2mqtt. And lo, the door sensor now has a signal of 140 and works as far as I can tell perfectly and instantly (unlike my z-wave one). A few more of those will be purchased and used to replace the Tuya wifi cloud devices and the (continually failing) Z-wave plugs (yeah, they were TKB so....) Commended to the house. Thanks for everyone that got me on the right lines. C
Zigbee
Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
Multi-System Reactor
[HowTo] Using HABridge with Reactor
therealdbT
If you’re like me and still running HABridge to control your devices locally via Alexa, you might need to tweak your endpoints to call Reactor via HTTP. Here’s the best way to do it, IMO: Insert the Reactor Canonical ID (e.g., zwavejs>71-1) into the MapID field, but make sure it’s URL-encoded like this: zwavejs%3E71-1. Then, configure these endpoints as needed: On: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.on Off: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.off Dim: For lights: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/dimming.set?level=${intensity.decimal_percent} For roller shutters: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/position.set?value=${intensity.decimal_percent} Color: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/rgb_color.set_rgb?red=${color.r}&green=${color.g}&blue=${color.b} Just replace [ReactorIP] with your actual IP address. By using these placeholders, you can standardize your endpoints across all devices, making maintenance easier. This setup works with any device mapped under MSR, regardless of the controller (ZWaveJS, Vera, HASS, OpenSprinkler, virtual, MQTT, DynamicEntities, etc.). If you need different calls, just go to the entities, get the action and parameters, and adjust accordingly. Enjoy super fast access to your devices via Alexa! If you're migrating from Vera, the endpoints are (URL-encoded) in a file called device.db, in JSON format, under your config. You'd write a script to align the new endpoints to the new one, if you prefer to do it automatically. YMMV.
How-To
[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
therealdbT
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Multi-System Reactor
Difficulty defining repeating annual period
R
I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
Multi-System Reactor
Need help with sequence
T
Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
Multi-System Reactor
Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
PablaP
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
CatmanV2C
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  • Fibaro TRV on ZWay/OpenLuup?
    I Intveltr

    @rafale77 I have tried before to change the device type manually and that didn't work for some reason. But after loading your new lua file and recreating the devices, this now works correctly, from the mobile app to Openluup to ZWay to the thermostat, and all the way back. The operating mode (off / heat) is also transmitted correctly.

    Thanks!

    Zway Bridge

  • Fibaro TRV on ZWay/OpenLuup?
    I Intveltr

    I've no idea what those unsupported ones are. ZWay has a bunch of Fibaro Power Management Alarm and Fibaro System Alarm devices but I've no idea what they do.

    I tried setting 49-0 and 49-1 to Heater1 and ZoneThermostat1 devices, but neither fully work. I can set the setpoint through them but they don't show the current setpoint, that only happens if I create a separate child device for 49-1-67-1 (and that child only displays the setpoint; it won't allow changing it).

    By the way, yes, there are 2 very similar looking devices. This is mirrored in ZWay which has 2 devices to control the setpoint. Both will transmit new values to the TRV, but only one of them (49-1) will update the setpoint if I turn the radiator knob. It seems 49-0 is something of a dummy. Fibaro is known for bizarre ZWave implementations, which is also reflected in ZWay. Vera however will display this thing correctly (as a single Heater1 device). Personally, I can live with having the current temperature in a separate device though.

    Zway Bridge

  • Ideas of project...
    I Intveltr

    These are great not just for sensors, but also to ZWave-ify existing equipment in cases where a simple dry relay ZWave switch won't cut it. I had a few motorized transom windows with IR remotes, that can also be controlled through some weird industrial serial protocol. I build controllers for them using ZUNO boards, so I can now control the windows through OpenLuup.

    Z-Uno

  • Fibaro TRV on ZWay/OpenLuup?
    I Intveltr

    Update:

    If I change Device 49-1 in the above list to a Heater1 device, it will not show the correct current setpoint, but when I change the setpoint on device 49-1, the thermostat will follow along.

    If I go into the ZWay bridge config and tick Parameter 67 on Device 49-1 (49-1-67-1), I get an extra device that does show the correct current setpoint. Changing it on that new device will not result in the thermostat changing accordingly, however.

    Zway Bridge

  • HomeWave Push notifications plugin (Update)
    I Intveltr

    It's in the app store now 🙂 Please let me know if it installs correctly

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • HomeWave Push notifications plugin (Update)
    I Intveltr

    I'll put it in this weekend

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • Fibaro TRV on ZWay/OpenLuup?
    I Intveltr

    They offer:

    • On/Off control (In ZWay this is an On/Off button, in OpenLuup when using Vera it shows a single Heater1 device with Off/Heat operating modes)
    • Current temperature
    • Current Heating setpoint (read / write)

    I'm not sure how these map to the variables in the above list, and some seem to be duplicated. BTW, device 25031 is a child device that I turned on manually in the plugin, in order to see if it could be controlled that way.

    Zway Bridge

  • HomeWave Push notifications plugin (Update)
    I Intveltr

    @perh So would I 🙂 I've made a major (and very expensive) effort a few years ago using Xamarin, but the Android part never worked very well, it took ages to start up and just parsing JSON files required whole seconds. I'm hoping to revisit this at some point since they have made huge improvements to Xamarin since then, but don't hold your breath; it's a huge effort.

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • Fibaro TRV on ZWay/OpenLuup?
    I Intveltr

    Having some trouble getting the Fibaro TRV device working with the ZWay bridge. The device works in the ZWay (Zwave.Me) Smart Home GUI, and creates a number of devices in OpenLuup, some of which appear to have the right variables in it. Changing the XML and JSON files makes no difference.

    I also tried creating a separate child device for Parameter 67 (using the gui for the ZWay bridge, see below), and setting the XML/JSON types for that device (like I've havd to do for a few other devices). This results in a device that correctly displays the TRV setpoint, but chaning the setpoint in the OpenLuup gui does not result in anything being transmitted to/by ZWay.

    20490 49-0 D_ComboDevice1.xml zNode #49-0
    49-0-113-8-12-A
    49-0-113-8-13-A
    49-0-113-8-14-A
    49-0-113-8-15-A
    49-0-113-9-3-A
    49-0-64
    49-0-67-1
    20491 49-1 D_ComboDevice1.xml zNode #49-1
    49-1-113-8-12-A
    49-1-113-8-13-A
    49-1-113-8-14-A
    49-1-113-8-15-A
    49-1-113-9-3-A
    49-1-64
    25031 49-1-67-1 D_Heater1.xml Radiator Bedroom
    20492 49-2 D_ComboDevice1.xml multi #49-2
    49-2-113-8-10-A
    49-2-113-8-11-A
    25030 49-2-49-1 D_TemperatureSensor1.xml Radiator Bedroom

    Zway Bridge

  • HomeWave Push notifications plugin (Update)
    I Intveltr

    All,

    Due to changes in the push notification system by Apple, the plugin to send push notifications to HomeWave will have to be updated. Please use the link below. This plugin works on both Vera and OpenLuup platforms.

    Push messages will continue to work with the old and the new plugin. Once the server and the HomeWave app are updated, the old plugin will stop working

    http://www.intvelt.com/files/HomeWavePush.zip
    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • TRVs and heating
    I Intveltr

    I didn't actually wire 3 Horstmann relays in parallel, it's one relay, plus 2 Fibaro dry contact relays (can't use a double unit, you can't associate the Horstman thermostat with the 2nd relay in the double unit). You can buy Horstman thermostats separately and save some cash that way. They associate just fine with regular switches (I have one associated with an additional switch for a floor heating pump)

    Hardware

  • TRVs and heating
    I Intveltr

    It's a bit of an issue. You can of course do this programatically if you have temperature sensors in all the rooms. But you'd have to drive the Horstmann relay programatically, which isn't ideal. The thermostat has some clever logic to drive your boiler in an optimal way (I think you can even set the boiler type in the Horstmann).

    What I did: I put thermostats in the rooms that I want to have good temperature control in (3 rooms). The relay units near the boiler are simply wired in parallel: this defeats the cleverness of the boiler control... but only when more than one thermostat demands heat while being near its setpoint. The TRVs in those rooms are programmatically slaved to the thermostat: every so often the home controller reads the setpoint and updates the TRVs.

    The TRVs in the other rooms are usually set to 14 degrees. At the moment I have them set so they go to 20 degrees when I turn the lights on in that room, and I close one of the boiler relays for 5 minutes to draw heat into the radiator. These are small rooms and this works well enough.

    By the way, I'm getting some serious savings by not heating the rooms that are not in use during the day.

    Hardware
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