Willing to help however I can.
I've managed to use MSR UI on iOS devices to some degree*, so that although UI elements (e.g. rule sets) are not visible in portrait mode, you've seen them in landscape. Now with recents builds (24302) this does not work anymore, elements (rule sets, entities) are not anymore visible in landscape mode.
Does anyone have similar experiences? Using iOS 18 and Safari/Chrome browser.
( *Drag & drop of rule conditions have never worked on a mobile)
Hi All
Hopefully this place looks like a helpful forum as I’m quite new to all this!
I’ve had a few devices all working separately /through their proprietary apps but we’re just finishing off a large house extension and this has added to the list.
I’d ideally like to be able to view/switch a number of different devices on one screen/head end but have no idea where to start.
The devices we have/will have shortly are as follows;
Zigbee Smart Sockets
Zigbee smart switches (for lights)
Heatmiser Neo Underfloor Heating (this runs from a Samsung ASHP but that part is automatic)
Samsung VRF air conditioning (currently using Smart Things App)
Hive (2xLTHW heating circuits in the existing house and Hot Water)
Ring (doorbell!)
Hik Vision PoE CCTV
We have lots of appliances (Neff N70) which we can control remotely but not too fussed about controlling those at the
Moment)
Any help/recommendations would be appreciated!
Thanks
Adrian
After a major hassle got z-way running on my ubuntu 16 VM with a USB pasthough UZB1 stick including license and connected to Vera...
I see:
I also see:
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But how do I update that?
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I have a legacy home automation set-up running on Windows XP. the computer and software have now died.
I have written a very nice Excel VBA program to replace the software and it can run on any modern Windows system.
My only remaining problem is to output the correct signal to a USB port to trigger the wireless switches.
Has anybody done a similar exercise. Please help.
The locksmith is trying to persuade me to purchase the BE-TECH K35 touchscreen lock with both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, claiming it's better than the Yale Assure Lock 2. What are your thoughts on this? Which one would you recommend?
Here is the link to the Chinese brand BE-TECH: BE-TECH Smart Deadbolt K3S.
The other smart lock I am considering is the Schlage Encode Plus.
Thank you!
Hi @toggledbits,
I have lots of logs with this:
<Engine:ERR> Assignment to alarm ignored -- expression-driven global cannot be set by assignmentAny hints to where look at to avoid this? Thanks.
Hi @toggledbits
I'd like to update my controllers with these new features, but I'm struggling to find any guidance in the docs - and in general to understand the context.
Could you please elaborate more? Thanks.
Hi All,
Kind of new to Home Automation. Started off Using Amazon Echo units and added a Samsung SmartThings hub. I have mostly been using plug in modules for turning lights on and off. I live in a very rural area where the internet goes out a lot. I eventually want to change to to a non internet Hub so things will work without needing an internet connection. But I will post with those questions at a later date.
So, the task at hand is this: I have flood lights at each corner of my house. They are currently controlled by switches at the front and back doors. I would like to add Security Cameras to each corner also. I can easily find small Wifi switches to put into the electrical box where the flood lights are located, then I can terminate the leads together behind the Decora switch to have constant power. Then I can use the constant power up at the lights electrical box to power the security cameras. I would also like to have a wireless switch to take the place of the Decora switch to be able to turn the lights off and on.
I cannot seem to find a product like this. It seems I can find the small wired in switch boxes that will also come with external smart wall switches, but the wall switches are an external box that does not fit in or cover the existing Wall switch electrical box. I can also find Wireless Decora switches that come with a remote wired in small switch box , but they all seem to be RF and do not integrate with a Smart Hub.
I am hoping someone here knows of a product that matches what I am looking for. Any help would be appreciated.
Also any recommendations for Wireless Security cameras are welcome.
Thanks for any help.
Hello,
I have a fresh openluup install on a raspberry.
Just installed "Vera Bridge" plugin, but I can't make it to work.
The plugin can not load the device infos from the vera.
This is what I can see in the OpenLuup log :
openLuup.client:: WGET error status: -1, request: http://192.168.1.2/port_3480/data_request?id=user_data2&output_format=json&ns=1
I have tried it from a console on the same raspberry this way :
wget http://192.168.1.2:3480/data_request?id=user_data2&output_format=json&ns=1
It worked, so I think it's not credential or network issue.
What can be the solution for this ?
more openluup log :
408 lines, 1 error, max gap 61s @ 2022-08-12 20:51:01.568
2022-08-12 19:21:24.150 :: openLuup LOG ROTATION :: (runtime 0.0 days)
2022-08-12 19:21:24.154 openLuup.init:: init phase completed
2022-08-12 19:21:24.155 openLuup.io.server:: starting HTTP:3480 server on port: 3480 tcp{server}: 0x1c48ee8
2022-08-12 19:21:24.157 openLuup.io.server:: starting SMTP server on port: 2525 tcp{server}: 0x1b461d8
2022-08-12 19:21:24.158 openLuup.io.server:: starting POP3 server on port: 11011 tcp{server}: 0x1b48780
2022-08-12 19:21:24.158 openLuup.historian:: starting data historian
2022-08-12 19:21:24.159 openLuup.historian:: using memory cache size (per-variable): 1024
2022-08-12 19:21:24.168 openLuup.scheduler:: starting
2022-08-12 19:21:24.169 openLuup.scheduler:: [2] openLuup device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.170 luup_log:2: v22.7.31
2022-08-12 19:21:24.171 luup_log:2: sync in 35.8 s
2022-08-12 19:21:24.190 luup.variable_watch:: callback=housemode_watcher, watching=2.openLuup.HouseMode
2022-08-12 19:21:24.191 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=openLuup_email, request=openLuup@openLuup.local
2022-08-12 19:21:24.191 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=openLuup_images, request=images@openLuup.local
2022-08-12 19:21:24.192 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=openLuup_events, request=events@openLuup.local
2022-08-12 19:21:24.192 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=openLuup_mailbox, request=mail@openLuup.local
2022-08-12 19:21:24.193 luup.chdev.append:: [AltAppStore] Alternate App Store
2022-08-12 19:21:24.193 luup.chdev.sync:: [2] openLuup, syncing children
2022-08-12 19:21:24.194 luup_log:2: starting MQTT $SYS/broker statistics
2022-08-12 19:21:24.196 luup_log:2: 3Mb, 2.1%cpu, 0.0days
2022-08-12 19:21:24.211 openLuup.scheduler:: [2] openLuup device startup completed: status=true, msg=sync in 35.8 s, name=L_openLuup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.212 openLuup.scheduler:: [3] Alternate UI device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.212 luup_log:3: ALTUI: initstatus(3) starting version: v2.54
2022-08-12 19:21:24.214 openLuup.scheduler:: [3] Alternate UI device startup completed: status=, msg=, name=
2022-08-12 19:21:24.214 openLuup.scheduler:: [7] VeraBridge device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.215 luup_log:7: VeraBridge
2022-08-12 19:21:24.215 luup_log:7: 2021.01.03
2022-08-12 19:21:24.216 luup_log:7: 192.168.1.2
2022-08-12 19:21:24.216 luup_log:7: device clone numbering starts at 10000
2022-08-12 19:21:24.217 luup_log:7: VeraBridge maps remote Zwave controller
2022-08-12 19:21:24.218 luup_log:7: v21.1.3
2022-08-12 19:21:24.242 openLuup.client:: WGET error status: -1, request: http://192.168.1.2/port_3480/data_request?id=user_data2&output_format=json&ns=1
2022-08-12 19:21:24.242 luup.set_failure:: status = 2
2022-08-12 19:21:24.243 luup.variable_set:: 7.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailure was: 2 now: 2 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.244 luup.variable_set:: 7.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailureTime was: 1660323316 now: 1660324884 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.246 luup_log:7: registering with AltUI [3] as Data Storage Provider
2022-08-12 19:21:24.247 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2, request=HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2
2022-08-12 19:21:24.249 luup.call_action:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.RegisterDataProvider
2022-08-12 19:21:24.260 openLuup.scheduler:: [7] VeraBridge device startup completed: status=, msg=No Vera, name=VeraBridge
2022-08-12 19:21:24.261 openLuup.scheduler:: [4] Alternate App Store device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.261 luup_log:4: AltAppStore : starting...
2022-08-12 19:21:24.262 luup.variable_set:: 4.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DisplayLine1 was: AltAppStore now: AltAppStore #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.263 luup.variable_set:: 4.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DisplayLine2 was: now: #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.264 luup_log:4: AltAppStore : v20.3.30
2022-08-12 19:21:24.264 luup.set_failure:: status = 0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.265 luup.variable_set:: 4.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailure was: 0 now: 0 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.266 luup.variable_set:: 4.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailureTime was: 0 now: 0 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.267 openLuup.scheduler:: [4] Alternate App Store device startup completed: status=true, msg=OK, name=AltAppStore
2022-08-12 19:21:24.268 openLuup.scheduler:: [5] Harmony Hub Control device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.280 luup.variable_set:: 5.urn:rboer-com:serviceId:Harmony1.LinkStatus was: Ok now: Starting... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.281 luup.variable_set:: 5.urn:rboer-com:serviceId:Harmony1.IconSet was: 0 now: 3 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.282 luup.attr_set:: 5.altid = HAM5_CNTRL
2022-08-12 19:21:24.326 luup.set_failure:: status = 0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.326 luup.variable_set:: 5.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailure was: 0 now: 0 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.327 luup.variable_set:: 5.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailureTime was: 0 now: 0 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.328 openLuup.scheduler:: [5] Harmony Hub Control device startup completed: status=true, msg=OK, name=Harmony Control
2022-08-12 19:21:24.332 luup_log:3: ALTUI: UPNPregisterDataProvider(3,Vera@192.168.1.2,http://127.0.0.1:3480/data_request?id=lr_HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2,[{
"default":"device.serviceId.name",
"key":"mirror",
"label":"Mirror",
"type":"text"
}])
2022-08-12 19:21:24.337 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DataStorageProviders was: {"emoncms":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_emoncms","parameters":[{"default":1,"type":"number","key":"node... now: {"Vera@192.168.1.2":{"url":"http://127.0.0.1:3480/data_request?id=lr_HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2","callback":... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.360 openLuup.io.server:: HTTP:3480 connection from 192.168.1.24 tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:24.363 openLuup.server:: GET /data_request?id=lu_status2&output_format=json&DataVersion=323312852&Timeout=60&MinimumDelay=1500&=1660323303557 HTTP/1.1 tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:24.646 openLuup.server:: request completed (34267 bytes, 3 chunks, 280 ms) tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:24.648 openLuup.io.server:: HTTP:3480 connection from 192.168.1.24 tcp{client}: 0x1d6a9b0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.661 openLuup.server:: GET /data_request?id=user_data&output_format=json&DataVersion=323312340&=1660323303558 HTTP/1.1 tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:25.252 openLuup.server:: request completed (70135 bytes, 5 chunks, 588 ms) tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:25.253 luup_log:3: ALTUI: startupDeferred, called on behalf of device:3
2022-08-12 19:21:25.338 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.Version was: v2.54 now: v2.54 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:25.934 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DataStorageProviders was: {"Vera@192.168.1.2":{"url":"http://127.0.0.1:3480/data_request?id=lr_HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2","callback":... now: {"thingspeak":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_thingspeak","parameters":[{"type":"number","key":"channelid"... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:25.964 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DataStorageProviders was: {"thingspeak":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_thingspeak","parameters":[{"type":"number","key":"channelid"... now: {"emoncms":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_emoncms","parameters":[{"default":1,"type":"number","key":"node... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:25.996 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DataStorageProviders was: {"emoncms":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_emoncms","parameters":[{"default":1,"type":"number","key":"node... now: {"emoncms":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_emoncms","parameters":[{"default":1,"type":"number","key":"node... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:25.999 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.VariablesToSend was: now: #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:26.009 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.RemoteVariablesToWatch was: now: #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:26.010 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.VariablesToWatch was: now: #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:26.012 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.Timers was: [] now: [] #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:26.013 luup_log:3: ALTUI: Wkflow - enableWorkflows(3,0,0)
Thank You.
d.
I have the following ACL defined:
groups: admin: users: - admin applications: true api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: trueAnd I have authenticated to MSR as "admin" user. However, I'm getting "access denied" when trying to access http://*******:8111/api/v1/log
So what I'm missing, is my ACL incorrectly defined?
Using build 24302 on Docker.
Sorry if this has been covered before, just curious why triggers in openluup are not consistent..
I looked at a scene i’d created a while back via ALTUI using the Console view and noticed it didn’t show any Triggers, which was strange as it was my main front door event 🙂 . So I added the door tripped trigger again, but I’ve just noticed I now how two tiggers using this view.
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In ALTUI it shows this.
I have an oven that I need to manage the temperature of, keeping it in the neighborhood of 600° C (1100° F). I have not been able to find a Zigbee-enabled solution to measure temps that high. Does anyone know if such a thing exists? If not, any ideas for how to roll a custom solution that I could integrate into a Sonoff ihost controller? I have no trouble finding high temperature probes, but none of them interface with my automation stack.
Thanks to @toggledbits for adding a custom CSS. I've started doing a darker Reactor style.
Here's the file: https://gist.github.com/dbochicchio/825098ac13b7f8cac22012eae37ff7ce
A couple of things are still too bright and I'll eventually catch-up. Just place it under your /config directory, naming the file as customstyles.css. Hard refresh your browser.
AK. Was doing an openLuup install and the installer errored with:
openLuup_install 2019.02.15 @akbooer getting openLuup version tar file from GitHub branch master... un-zipping download files... getting dkjson.lua... lua5.1: openLuup_install.lua:45: GitHub download failed with code 500 stack traceback: [C]: in function 'assert' openLuup_install.lua:45: in main chunk [C]: ?The installer code was executing this URL:
http://dkolf.de/src/dkjson-lua.fsl/raw/dkjson.lua?name=16cbc26080996d9da827df42cb0844a25518eeb3Running it manually gives:
dkolf.de The script could not be run error-free. Please check your error log file for the exact error message. You can find this in the KIS under "Product Management > *YOUR PRODUCT* > *CONFYGUAR* > Logfiles". Further information can be found in our FAQ. The script could not be executed correctly. Please refer to your error log for details about this error. You find it in your KIS under item "Product Admin > *YOUR PRODUCT* > *CONFIGURE* > Logfiles". Further information can also be found in our FAQ.I'm thinking the dkjson code URL has been changed. On dkolf.de there is a download link:
http://dkolf.de/dkjson-lua/dkjson-2.8.luaand dkjson code also seems to be in GitHub (I presume this is the same code?):
https://github.com/LuaDist/dkjson/blob/master/dkjson.luaI'm don't know what dkolf.de looked like previously but I do see the dkjson code has been updated as of 2024-06-17. Hope this helps.
Oh - and by the way the dkjson.lua file seems to have been downloaded OK by the installer - error or no error, so go figure.
Dear Forum,
I am just starting a smart home system. I've wanted to do this for 10 years at most and really would like to get a start. What I have are a couple of SONOFF wifi relays, some 433 (Hz/mHz) switches ( not wifi ) a couple of wifi lightbulbs, and I'd like to expand wifi thermostat, leak/water detectors, garage door openers and what ever else I can think of.
In the SONOFF items I have it's a particular app, the wifi bulbs are another app, and if I do a thermostat there might be another app. My wife is not a Luddite but she damn sure doesn't want to have to trouble shoot if/why a particular app breaks down.
So in what I do understand about smart home things is that I need/want a HUB. I spent 15 years doing some programming so I do have some computer ability, though I'd prefer to stay away from HAVING to line command operate the hub.
I would like a list of HUB's that people have found to be the best. Even better are links to let's say Amazon for that hub.
Regards from Noob Smart Home,
Barry
Hi!
In Home Assistant I sometimes uses the TTS, either to my Sonos or Google speakers. With reactor in Vera I also use TTS.
But in MSR I can't select the TTS-service. It's simply not there. Am I missing something, or is this the case, so far?
Thanks!
/Fanan
It’s been a while since I looked at openLuup as it had been running nicely and quietly in the background doing some basic tasks. With my VeraPlus looking like it’s finally succumbing to old age, I want to shift a number of the global module I have over to openLuup.
To do this, I have added the files (example would be xxpushover.lua to the cmh-ludl folder and the following to the startup
require “xxpushover”
The xxpushover.lua file itself starts with the following..
module("xxpushover", package.seeall)
And I always have a line in these files to allow me to check it’s been read in the start up related logs, which in this case it is..
The challenge I’m having is that when I try to call any of the functions within the module, it returns the following error..
"[string "ALTUI - LuaRunHandler"]:1: attempt to index global 'xxpushover' (a nil value)”
I’m no doubt missing something obvious, can anyone help me find out what it is ? Many thanks
Hi
I have just connected a bunch of EzloPi controllers to MSR to import some ESP based devices etc.
They all seemed to have worked and imported in to MSR apart from I have one missing device. It is a Digital Gas Sensor device.
This is how that device looks in the Ezlo API.
Devices Info:
_id: "10696001" deviceTypeId: "ezlopi" parentDeviceId: "10696000" category: "level_sensor" subcategory: "" gatewayId: "457a5069" batteryPowered: false name: "Gas Sensor Digital" type: "sensor" reachable: true persistent: true serviceNotification: false armed: false roomId: "" security: "no" ready: true status: "idle" parentRoom: true protectConfig: "default"Items Info:
_id: "20696001" deviceId: "10696001" hasGetter: true hasSetter: false name: "smoke_density" show: true valueType: "substance_amount" scale: "parts_per_million" value: 2.7472610473632812 valueFormatted: "2.75" status: "idle"There is also an Analog Gas sensor that one did import in to MSR OK.
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Devices Info:
_id: "10696000" deviceTypeId: "ezlopi" parentDeviceId: "10696000" category: "security_sensor" subcategory: "gas" gatewayId: "457a5069" batteryPowered: false name: "Gas Sensor Analog" type: "sensor" reachable: true persistent: true serviceNotification: false armed: false roomId: "" security: "no" ready: true status: "idle" parentRoom: true protectConfig: "default"Items Info:
_id: "20696000" deviceId: "10696000" hasGetter: true hasSetter: false name: "gas_alarm" show: true valueType: "token" enum: 0: "no_gas" 1: "combustible_gas_detected" 2: "toxic_gas_detected" 3: "unknown" valueFormatted: "no_gas" value: "no_gas" status: "idle"And this is how this MQ2 Gas Sensor looks like on their dashboard:
Digital
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Analog
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They have an EzloPi website here you can create your own sensor projects using ESP boards, which is very interesting stuff!
And I just wrote on the Ezlo forum here, how to connect an EzloPi controller to MSR.
THANKS.
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.
Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.A couple of things for you @toggledbits, since you mentioned that this release has new features and some tweaks are expected.
Local expressions cannot be deleted. Pushing the X button has no effect for me.
When cloning an entity action, the result is strange (first is cloned one, second is the original action):
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When changing the action on the cloned element, the params are added to the original one. See screenshot:
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Dark theme has a couple of strange contrasts. One is visible in the previous screenshots (white text on yellow background). Another one is in groups (blue text on blue background):
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Overall, I found blue, yellow, red and green (in buttons and forms) to be too bright.
On the bright side:
I love the new script action: thank you! The dark theme is a great start to avoid getting blinded at night I promise I'll try very soon the new features around actions. Thanks!MikeReadington
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@catmanv2 Same here, it works but not 100% reliable. A few misses that seem to correlate to if I am on the phone or not. I really miss the reliability iPhone locator.
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@toggledbits I used something like that to dampen solar panel logic. I am not "legally" allowed to hook up, but I still wanted to play with them. I still have a dumb meter and it's easily possible to end up negative for the month. I used a couple of RIB relays to turn panel groups off if the consumption target for the month was trending under what would be considered believable.
(I also turn them off by the driveway entrance sensor logic on the days that I know the meter reader will show up. I don't particularly need an observant reader seeing the meter flying around backward)
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@therealdb wow, that is what I was just looking at beacons. Looks promising if they are reliable.
I don't have gates, but I would not mind a few automated defensive turrets.
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@catmanv2 Yeah, my use case is a little more particular. I don't have an issue with never getting notification changes, they are just more delayed than I would like. I think once you get MQTT and MSR talking a 5km is going be more than relievable enough.
I had iPhone locator poll/force location refresh when I came in my driveway and triggered the magnetic sensor. I needed the location to be accurate and updated by the time I reached either my house or my building on property. The driveway is about 300m long as the crow flies for region radius purposes, and traversal to either location is much less than 45 seconds.
For what it is worth, I do see instant (and I mean instant instant) location changes like @therealdb and @gwp1 reported when the app is open or recently accessed. The delay seems to come from the app being backgrounded and the phone idle for a long period.
@gwp1 with HASS iCloud3, can you remote request a location refresh of the phone? Meaning, could I have polling suspended until I ask for an update? I think I could get exactly what I am looking for with a combination of the two and some MSR logic.
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@catmanv2 iPhone. I just returned home and it got a location trigger, but it was far from an instant trigger. The phone was in sleep for at least 30 minutes before I crossed the perimeter, and I would say the delay was in the area of 45 seconds.
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Thanks for all of the input.
For whatever reason I am having the same spotty relationship with OwnTracks that @CatmanV2 has. One minute I think it's solved, the next minute it's missed a trigger.
With the success others have had, including @gwp1 with the same method of deployment, I must have something wrong. I'll keep working on it as time permits.
Thanks again
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Something of note from OwnTracks with iOS.
"Why do location publishes sometimes seem to cease to work?
Here's what happens:
If the app goes into Background, the connection is disconnected because the app cannot maintain the TCP connection in background.
If you bring the app back into foreground, the app will re-connect.
When a location change is recorded (no matter if manual, significant, move or region mode), a message is prepared and an attempt to connect to the broker is started. If there is an error, connect will be retried after 2, 4, 8, ..., 64, 64, .... seconds until it succeeds.
BUT...
If the application is in background or is sent to the background, retries are restarted eventually - depending on iOS' background execution model about every 10 minutes.
With automatic modes switched off, even when bringing the app to foreground, no new location updates are generated." -
@CatmanV2 Well, at least I know it was not just me. I knew this day was coming because he had said something in August when it was broken that he didn't know if it was fixable because of Apple's API. I am thinking they kicked everything that did not use 2FA authentication.
@therealdb I set up Owntracks on Hubitat because it was easy, and I could play with it. Looks like it is very flexible. How hard is it on the battery? I realize mileage will vary a lot on this, but that was a feature I liked about the iPhone locator app. It ran using Apple's "Find My" that was already running on the phone. It's slow to update, but if I needed to know where the phone was, I would force a poll of location from the app. Since I started refining my logic in MSR I have been using manual polling almost exclusively. Thanks again for the point in this direction.
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@therealdb Thanks DB. I also looked at that, but I will check it out more thoroughly.
I wanted to try to keep the force refresh option available, but looking quickly, I didn't think there was a way to do that. I really liked the behavior of asking the phone, "where do you think you are, and do me a favor and double-check just to be sure." Using that one feature stopped a lot of delayed or false location reports during a critical event, but in fairness, maybe this stuff has gotten good enough that it won't be an issue.
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@akbooer Thanks again, I will poke around a bit. I have not explored anything with HomeKit yet, but it was something on my list.
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@akbooer Thanks, can you force an update of the phone location remotely, or does it rely on last reported?
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Reposting here because core people seem to be here daily.
Hello Everyone,
I am using iPhone locator on Vera, and yesterday it stopped working. Looking at the logs, I can see the connection is refused, but nothing on my end changed. iPhone locator is really important in my particular setup, so I guess I have two questions.
Is it broken, or is it me?
I don't see anyone else saying there is an issue, but I am not sure how many people are still using it (or Vera for location) at this point. I installed it on a blank Vera test controller, same issue. It might be something with the iCloud account, but it works everywhere else.Is there something similar on another platform?
Mainly what I would like is the ability to force a poll of iCloud location on demand. I have a bunch of triggers setup, including magnetic sensors in my driveway to sense vehicles and determine if the motion is egress or ingress. These triggers in conjunction with MSR have been a great way to double check phone location, and I would hate to lose this functionality. It looks like HA might have something with "iCloud3". Is anyone using it?
Thanks,
Mike -
Hello Everyone,
I am using iPhone locator on Vera, and yesterday it stopped working. Looking at the logs, I can see the connection is refused, but nothing on my end changed. iPhone locator is really important in my particular setup, so I guess I have two questions.
Is it broken, or is it me?
I don't see anyone else saying there is an issue, but I am not sure how many people are still using it (or Vera for location) at this point. I installed it on a blank Vera test controller, same issue. It might be something with the iCloud account, but it works everywhere else.Is there something similar on another platform?
Mainly what I would like is the ability to force a poll of iCloud location on demand. I have a bunch of triggers setup, including magnetic sensors in my driveway to sense vehicles and determine if the motion is egress or ingress. These triggers in conjunction with MSR have been a great way to double check phone location, and I would hate to lose this functionality. It looks like HA might have something with "iCloud3". Is anyone using it?
Thanks,
Mike -
False alarm with both work and MSR. I went back to look and it cleared up on it's own.
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Hi Patrick,
I don't know if this might be related, but I just saw something strange with a missing attribute as well. It looks like after the last update the Schlage lock attribute on Vera systems lost:
x_vera_svc_micasaverde_com_DoorLock1.sl_UserCode_updated
(missing) is after it when looking in rule>entities>triggers.
Something just came up at work as I was writing this, so I'll look through the logs when I am freed up.
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@cw-kid I was thinking along these lines myself when I asked that question. Any device brought into MSR could then be brought into Home Remote regardless of Home Remote's native support.
Unless I am not understanding something correctly, MSR could be brought in essentially as a hub. If MSR could talk to it, Home Remote could talk to it. More importantly, for something I would like to do, I would like a specific triggered Home Remote function to interact with MSR. (I think you had done this already if I remember correctly)
I think this would open lots of additional automation avenues.
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Fair enough
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Edited/amended
For anyone not comfortable messing about with Docker inside of a Synology NAS, these are the steps to update to the new image.
Regardless of what you are doing, It is always good idea to have a backup copy of your reactor data folder.
- Make note of the "Volume" and "Environment" variable for "TZ"
- Stop and delete old container
- Delete old image from the "Images"
- Download the new image
- Launch new container with new image
- Under "General Settings" set container to auto start*
- Under "Volume" populate reactor data folder used in your previous reactor
- Under "Port Settings" change local port to 8111
- Under "Environment" hit the plus sign and add variable "TZ" with the value of your timezone.
- Apply and launch.
That should be it.
As Patrick stated, none of your configuration data is lost since it exists outside of the container.
Thanks again as always Patrick!
*I missed this one because it had been so long since I had setup from scratch. If you forget to do this a restart inside Reactor will cause a shutdown.
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