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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
R

Hi guys,

Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular.

Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets.

I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.

Multi-System Reactor 2 days ago
Moving MSR from a QNAP container to RP 5 - some issues
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I have installed MSR on a RP5 bare metal and then copied the config and store files. Everything seems to be on the RP5 but I am missing all global expression and I don't see the controller time.

Screenshot 2025-04-06 201446.png

My browser is Microsoft Edge Version 135.0.3179.54 (Official build) (64-bit)

I have probably done something stupid or missed a step but I am stuck.

Thanks for any help.

Multi-System Reactor 7 days ago
Widget deletion does not work and landing page (status) is empy
M

Hi,
It seems that the widget deletion does not work. I tried to drag the widget to the left (as explained in here https://smarthome.community/topic/1071/deleting-widgets?_=1744037333660)
but it does not delete it. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Also the landing page after login is empty and seems be have some JS issues on the dev console:

Screenshot from 2025-04-07 18-06-19.png

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Using dockerized version of Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25082-3c348de6 on Chromium 135.0.7049.52 (Official Build) snap (64-bit)

br,
mgvra

Multi-System Reactor 7 days ago
Need help reducing false positive notifications
T

Good day all,
I have an notification set up for my washing machine to let me know when it's complete. I have a templete sensor set up in HAAS to let me know if it's Washing, in Standby, or off, based upon the power consumption (Shelly 1PM on outlets)

- name: "Washing Machine" state: > {% if states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float == 0 %} Off {% elif states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float <= 2.9 %} Standby {% else %} Washing {% endif %} icon: > {% if states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power") == "off" %} mdi:washing-machine-alert {% elif states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float <= 2.9 %} mdi:washing-machine-off {% else %} mdi:washing-machine {% endif %} minutes: 2

The MSR code is relatively simple. I have a built in false positive attribute for if MSR gets rebooted, because I would suddenly get tons of notifications when I upgraded MSR.

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What I'm trying to introduce, is a way to verify that I just didn't bump the knob on the washing machine when transferring loads from the washer to the dryer, which turns on the display and brings the power above the Standby threshold.

The power goes up to 3.7W for about 4 minutes if the selector knob is bumped/turned.

What would the best way to do this be? I have most of my MSR code set up for a couple of years now, and my coding logic is struggling a bit.

I think I need a power threshold to be substained for a minimum time period (say 2 or 3 minutes, above 10W), before the other triggers can act. What would the best way to do that be?

Running: latest-25082-3c348de6
Fedora 41 Server
HAAS:
Core
2025.3.4
Supervisor
2025.03.4
Operating System
15.1
Frontend
20250306.0

Multi-System Reactor 8 days ago
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.

Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Multi-System Reactor 9 days ago
Deleting widgets
tunnusT

Hopefully a trivial question, but how do you delete widgets in a status page? Using build 22266

Multi-System Reactor 9 days ago
MQTT configuration question
tunnusT

I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file

x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }'

While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?

Multi-System Reactor 13 days ago
System Configuration Check - time is offset
F

Hi!

I get this message when I'm on the status tab:

System Configuration Check
The time on this system and on the Reactor host are significantly different. This may be due to incorrect system configuration on either or both. Please check the configuration of both systems. The host reports 2025-04-01T15:29:29.252Z; browser reports 2025-04-01T15:29:40.528Z; difference 11.276 seconds.

I have MSR installed as a docker on my Home Assistant Blue / Hardkernel ODROID-N2/N2+. MSR version is latest-25082-3c348de6.
HA versions are:
Core 2025.3.4
Supervisor 2025.03.4
Operating System 15.1

I have restarted HA as well as MSR multiple times. This message didn´t show two weeks ago. Don´t know if it have anything to do with the latest MSR version.
Do anyone know what I can try?
Thanks in advance!
Let's Be Careful Out There (Hill Street reference...) 🙂
/Fanan

Multi-System Reactor 14 days ago
Programmatically capture HTTP Request action status code or error
therealdbT

I have a very strange situation, where if InfluxDB restarts, other containers may fail when restarting at the same time (under not easy to understand circumstances), and InfluxDB remains unreachable (and these containers crashes). I need to reboot these containers in an exact order, after rebooting InfluxDB.

While I understand what's going on, I need a way to reliable determine that InfluxDB is not reachable and these containers are not reachable, in order to identify this situation and manually check what's going on - and, maybe, in the future, automatically restart them if needed.

So, I was looking at HTTP Request action, but I need to capture the HTTP response code, instead of the response (becase if ping is OK, InfluxDB will reply with a 204), and, potentially, a way to programmatically detect that it's failing to get the response.

While I could write a custom HTTP controller for this or a custom HTTP virtual device, I was wondering if this is somewhat on you roadmap @toggledbits

Thanks!

Multi-System Reactor 16 days ago
ZwaveJSUI - RGBWW BULB - Warm/Cold White interfered with RGB settings - Bulb doesn't change color if in WarmWhite state.
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Hi ,
I'm on
-Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25067-62e21a2d
-Docker on Synology NAS
-ZWaveJSUI 9.31.0.6c80945

Problem with ZwaveJSUI:
When I try to change color to a bulb RGBWW, it doesn't change to the RGB color and the bulb remains warm or cold white.
I tryed with Zipato RGBW Bulb V2 RGBWE2, Hank Bulb HKZW-RGB01, Aentec 6 A-ZWA002, so seems that it happens with all RGBWW bulb with reactor/zwavejsui.

I'm using from reator the entity action: "rgb_color.set" and "rgb_color.set_rgb".
After I send the reactor command, It changes in zwavejsui the rgb settings but doesn't put the white channel to "0", so the prevalent channel remains warm/cold White and the bulb doesn't change into the rgb color.

This is the status of the bulb in zwavejsui after "rgb_color.set" (235,33,33,) and the bulb is still warmWhite.

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor={"warmWhite":204,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}

The "cold white" and "warm white" settings interfer with the rgb color settings.

Reactor can change bulb colors with rgb_color set — (value, ui8, 0x000000 to 0xffffff) or rgb_color set_rgb — (red, green, blue, all ui1, 0 to 255) but if warm or cold white
are not to "0", zwavejsui doesn't change them and I can't find a way to change into rgb or from rgb back to warm white.

So if I use from reactor: rgb_color set_rgb — (235,33,33) in zwavejsui I have

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: targetColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: targetColor 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: currentColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: currentColor

In zwavejsui, the bulb changes rgb set but warm White remains to "204" and the bulb remais on warm White channel bacause is prevalent on rgb set.

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_0=204 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_1=0 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_2=235 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_3=33 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_4=33

Is it possible to targetColor also for "warmWhite" and "coldWhite" and have something similar to this?

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"warmWhite":0,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}

Thanks in advance.

Multi-System Reactor 17 days ago
Problem with simultaneous notifications.
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Good day all,
I have a reaction set up, that I use for both troubleshooting and changing home modes when one of my family members either arrive or are leaving. I use the companion app for HAAS on our iPhones, and HAAS reports if the person associated with the iPhone enters or leaves the geofenced area around my home. I'm sure most MSR and HAAS users are familiar with this.

I use this rule set mainly as a condition for other rules, however, as part of troubleshooting, a notification is sent through HAAS to the companion app when the rule becomes true. The problem is that I'm getting notifications now for both arriving and departing simultaneously.

96b3f7db-ba09-499e-a78c-86903b603857-image.png

36903cdd-a87f-473b-82ef-af9ef96d3c44-image.png It used to work fine as intended. I'm not sure exactly when it changed, but now I'm getting two notifications when either of these conditions change.

Any idea what could be happening?

Edit:
Running: latest-25082-3c348de6, bare-metal Linux
ZWaveJSControllerr [0.1.25082]

Multi-System Reactor 17 days ago
Problem after upgrading to 25067
R

MSR had been running fine, but I decided to follow the message to upgrade to 25067. Since the upgrade, I have received the message "Controller "<name>" (HubitatController hubitat2) could not be loaded at startup. Its ID is not unique." MSR throws the message on every restart. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
I am running MSR on a Raspberry Pi4 connecting to two Hubitat units over an OpenVPN tunnel. One C8 and a C8 Pro. Both are up-to-date. It appears that despite the error message that MSR may be operating properly.

Multi-System Reactor 22 days ago
Global expressions not always evaluated
tunnusT

Similarly as for local expressions, global expressions evaluate and update fine when getEntity(...) structure is used. However, at least when certain functions are in use, expressions do not update.

Consider the following test case:

Screenshot 2025-03-13 at 16.29.42.png

Even though auto-evaluation is active, value does not change (it changes only if that expression is manually run). MSR restarts do not help.

Screenshot 2025-03-13 at 16.31.43.png

Note: Tested using build 25067 on Docker. I have also a PR open (but couldn't now get details or PR number as my Mantis account was somehow expired?).

Multi-System Reactor 24 days ago
[Solved] Local expression evaluation
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Trying to understand what cause a local expresssion to be evaluated. I have read the manual but I am still not clear about it. Using the test rule below, I can see in the log that the rule is being automatically evaluated every time the temperature entity is changing. That is great...

What I am trying to understand is why the expression is not evaluated based on time as well since the "case" statement has time dependencies.

Any help would be appreciated

I have the following test rule:

eba6a3ea-ff61-4610-88c9-9b9864f11ff8-Screenshot 2025-01-21 095244.png

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Here is the expressioncode:

vFrom1 = "09:25:00", vFrom2 = "09:30:00", vFrom3 = "09:41:00", vTo = "10:55:00", # Get current time (format HH:MM:SS) vToDay = strftime("%H:%M:%S"), #Get current house temperature CurrentHouseTemp = getEntity( "hass>Thermostat2 " ).attributes.temperature_sensor.value, case when CurrentHouseTemp <= 19 and vToDay >= vFrom1 && vToDay <= vTo: "true1" # From1 when CurrentHouseTemp <= 20 and vToDay >= vFrom2 && vToDay <= vTo: "true2" # From2 when CurrentHouseTemp < 26  and vToDay >= vFrom3 && vToDay <= vTo: "true3" # From3 else "false" end
Multi-System Reactor Mar 12, 2025, 9:54 PM
[Solved] Runtime error when exiting global reaction that contains a group
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I am getting a Runtime error on different browsers when I click exit when editing an existing or creating a new global reaction containing a group. If the global reaction does not have a group I don't get an error. I see a similar post on the forum about a Runtime Error when creating reactions but started a new thread as that appears to be solved.

The Runtime Error is different in the two browsers
Safari v18.3

@http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:44 You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Google Chrome 133.0.6943.142

TypeError: self.editor.isModified is not a function at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:34) You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Steps to reproduce:
Click the pencil to edit a global reaction with a group.
Click the Exit button.
Runtime error appears.
or
Click Create Reaction
Click Add Action
Select Group
Add Condition such as Entity Attribute.
Add an Action.
Click Save
Click Exit
Runtime error appears.

I don’t know how long the error has been there as I haven’t edited the global reaction in a long time.

Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25060-f32eaa46
Docker
Mac OS: 15.3.1
Thanks

Multi-System Reactor Mar 10, 2025, 2:33 PM
Cannot delete Global Expressions
SnowmanS

I am trying to delete a global expression (gLightDelay) but for some strange reason, it comes back despite clicking the Delete this expression and Save Changes buttons.

I have not created a global expression for some times and just noticed this while doing some clean-up.

I have upgraded Reactor to 25067 from 25060 and the behaviour is still there. I have restarted Reactor (as well as restarting its container) and cleared the browser's cache several times without success.

Here's what the log shows.

[latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:22.690Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:26.254Z <GlobalExpression:NOTICE> Deleting global expression gLightDelay [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:27.887Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" }

Reactor latest-25067-62e21a2d
Docker on Synology NAS

Multi-System Reactor Mar 9, 2025, 2:32 AM
Local notification methods?
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Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method.

This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP.

I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone)

I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions?

TIA

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Multi-System Reactor Feb 14, 2025, 5:08 PM
Custom capabilities in MQTT templates
M

Hi,
I'm trying to integrate the sonos-mqtt (https://sonos2mqtt.svrooij.io/) with the MSR and it's coming along nicely so far.
But cannot wrap my head around how to define custom capabilities in MQTT templates. I need this for the TTS announcements and similarly for the notification sounds where I would pass the sound file as parameter.

So this is what I have in the local_mqtt_devices.yaml

capabilities: x_sonos_announcement: attributes: actions: speak: arguments: text: type: string volume: type: int delay: type: int

And this is the template:

templates: sonos-announcement: capabilities: - x_sonos_announcement actions: x_sonos_announcement: speak: topic: "sonos/cmd/speak" payload: expr: > { "text": parameters.text, "volume": parameters.volume, "delayMs": parameters.delay, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" } type: json

So the speak action should send something like this to topic sonos/cmd/speak

{ "text": "message goes here", "volume": 50, "delayMs": 100, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" }

At startup the MSR seems to be quite unhappy with my configuration:

reactor | [latest-25016]2025-02-09T08:19:59.029Z <MQTTController:WARN> MQTTController#mqtt entity Entity#mqtt>sonos-announcement unable to configure capabilities [Array][ "x_sonos_announcement" ] reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} has unrecognized capability {1:q} in actions reactor | Trace: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:611:28) reactor | at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:125:25) reactor | at MQTTController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:627:30) reactor | at MQTTController.start (/var/reactor/ext/MQTTController/MQTTController.js:268:26) reactor | at async Promise.allSettled (index 0) Configuration for "sonos-announcement" has unrecognized capability "x_sonos_announcement" in actions Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM Configuration for "sonos-announcement" is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: x_sonos_announcement Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM

This is probably a pretty stupid question and the approach may not even work at all, but maybe someone or @toggledbits for sure, could point me to the right direction.
Basically the idea is to be able to send TTS messages from reactions using entity actions. I've previously used HTTP requests to Sonos HTTP API (https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisns/docker-node-sonos-http-api/) for the same functionality, but since moving to sonos-mqtt, I need a way to send the TTS notifications using MQTTController. Along with the actual message, volume and delay must also be parameterizable.

br,
mgvra

MSR latest-25016-d47fea38 / MQTTController [0.2.24293]

Multi-System Reactor Feb 11, 2025, 1:28 PM
[SOLVED]Hass websocket falsely reporting ready on boot??
V

Hi, @toggledbits

I just noticed that following a reboot of my raspberry pi, some of the rules, that I was expecting to recover, are not catching up following a reboot. I have made a simple test rule (rule-m6rz6ol1) with only "after Date/time" as trigger and "turn on a lamp" as a set reaction. All my infrastructure is on the same board so Reactor, Hass, Zwavejs, ... are all rebooting.

Here is the sequence of the test case (All time converted to Zulu to match logs):

Rule "after Date/Time" set to 14:05:00z Shutdown on Raspberry Pi at 14:04:00z Power back up at 14:08:00z Rule overview shows true as of 14:08:14z waiting for 00:00:00 in GUI

From the log I can see that MSR is picking up the rule and knows that the state of the rule has changed from false to true and tries to send the update to HASS but failed with websocket error.

Here is what I see from the log:

14:04:04z shutdown complete 14:08:08z Power up 14:08:13.111z websocket connection 14:08:15:323z Reaction to the light failed, Websocket not opened After there is a series of websocket connection attempt until 14:08:51z where it seemed to be really ready.

Back in 2021 we had a discussion (https://smarthome.community/topic/700/solved-start-up?_=1738766986566) and you proposed to add a startup_delay:xxxx and startup_wait:xxxx parameter in the engine section of "reactor.yaml". When I try the startup_delay (this used to be a hard delay), the engine failed to start (I think). I then try the startup_wait:xxxx without any success. Since it wait for the connection status to be up to cancel the delay, it does not do anyting since Hass is reporting the socket up without really being up ( I think...).

Questions:

Did I figured it all wrong? should the startup_delay:xxxxx have worked? Any ideas?

Here is the log:

OK now I am stuck. I did add the log but when I submit the editor complained saying that I am limited to 32767 characters. The log from the shutdown to the time the websocket is stable is about 300000 character long. What are my options?

Multi-System Reactor Feb 10, 2025, 7:45 PM
[SOLVED]Logs permissions for Docker Install
V

Not a big issue simply a request if easily doable.

The MSR logs files inside the container are owned by root witch is fine however, the permissions are very restrictive. I do not know if there is something wrong with my installation but the logs permission are set to 222 (write only). Even if the docker volume is set for Read/Write the log files are retaining these values.

I go around the problem by doing a chmod 777 on all reactor logs but every time there is an MSR log rotation the permissions are set back to 222. So unless the permission are implemented in the container there is no permanent solution to this (that I know of).

I do not know much about Docker container so I do not know what is involved here.

Can the logfiles permission be simply chaged in the container to at least allow "other" read permission?

Could the MSR log rotation routine implement a chmod to set the permission?

Just a small anoyance

Thanks

Multi-System Reactor Feb 8, 2025, 6:05 PM

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    toggledbits
    wrote on Mar 18, 2022, 9:56 PM last edited by
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    Ok, so now look at the logs again. Disk space problem hiding others, now you should be able to see them.

    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      wrote on Mar 18, 2022, 10:01 PM last edited by cw-kid Mar 18, 2022, 6:10 PM
      #22

      Don't know what's happened now but reactor.service is not even in the list at all anymore.

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      The service file is still in there

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      I'm downloading the syslog again now.

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        wrote on Mar 18, 2022, 10:37 PM last edited by cw-kid Mar 18, 2022, 6:38 PM
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        @toggledbits

        OK these are the latest entries in the syslog to do with reactor

        Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: NODE_PATH /home/stuart/reactor
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: FileLogStream { type: 'file', name: 'reactor.log', maxsize: 2, keep: 5 }
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.123Z <app:null> Reactor latest-22069-ebeefad starting on v16.13.1
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.126Z <app:INFO> Process ID 522; platform linux/x64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.208-1 (2021-09-29); locale en_GB.UTF-8
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.127Z <app:INFO> Basedir /home/stuart/reactor; data in /home/stuart/reactor/storage
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.128Z <app:INFO> NODE_PATH=/home/stuart/reactor
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.135Z <app:INFO> Configured locale (undefined); selected locale(s) en_GB.UTF-8
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.195Z <app:INFO> Loaded locale en-US
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.223Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v21333
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.354Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v21186
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.369Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v21333
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.381Z <default:INFO> Module Entity v22042
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.391Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v22003
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.392Z <default:null> Module Structure v22047
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.413Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v21096
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.414Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v21096
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.433Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v21333
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.474Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v22067
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.484Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v21355
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.490Z <default:null> Module Rule v22043
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.500Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v21333
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.504Z <default:null> Module Engine v22053
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.505Z <default:null> Module httpapi v22021
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.510Z <default:null> Module httpproxy v21333
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.554Z <default:null> Module wsapi v21334
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.558Z <app:NOTICE> Starting Structure...
ar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.558Z <app:NOTICE> Starting Structure...
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.567Z <IndividualFileStrategy:ERR> [IndividualFileStrategy][IndividualFileStrategy#/home/stuart/reactor/storage] failed to read sys_alerts in /home/stuart/reactor/storage/states/sys_alerts.json: [SyntaxError]SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: Trapped unhandled Promise rejection SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at JSON.parse (<anonymous>)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:123:47)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Container.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:98:51)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Structure.start (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Structure.js:280:631)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Object.<anonymous> (/home/stuart/reactor/app.js:288:80)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1101:14)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1153:10)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:981:32)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:822:12)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:81:12)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at JSON.parse (<anonymous>)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:123:47)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Container.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:98:51)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Structure.start (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Structure.js:280:631)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Object.<anonymous> (/home/stuart/reactor/app.js:288:80)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1101:14)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1153:10)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:981:32)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:822:12)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:81:12)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: Promise {
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:   <rejected> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at JSON.parse (<anonymous>)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:123:47)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at Container.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:98:51)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at Structure.start (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Structure.js:280:631)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at Object.<anonymous> (/home/stuart/reactor/app.js:288:80)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1101:14)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1153:10)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:981:32)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:822:12)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:       at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:81:12)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: }
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: Trace
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at process.<anonymous> (/home/stuart/reactor/app.js:271:162)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at process.emit (node:events:390:28)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at process.emit (node:domain:475:12)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at emit (node:internal/process/promises:136:22)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at processPromiseRejections (node:internal/process/promises:242:25)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]:     at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:97:32)
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.582Z <app:ERR> Trapped unhandled Promise rejection: [SyntaxError]SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 node[522]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:07:48.582Z <app:ERR> Please refer to the console log for trace
Mar 18 22:07:48 HP-Thin01 systemd[1]: reactor.service: Succeeded.

        Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:05:28.048Z <IndividualFileStrategy:ERR> [IndividualFileStrategy][IndividualFileStrategy#/home/stuart/reactor/storage] failed to read sys_alerts in /home/stuart/reactor/storage/states/sys_alerts.json: [SyntaxError]SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]: Trapped unhandled Promise rejection SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at JSON.parse (<anonymous>)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:123:47)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Container.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:98:51)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Structure.start (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Structure.js:280:631)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Object.<anonymous> (/home/stuart/reactor/app.js:288:80)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1101:14)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1153:10)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:981:32)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:822:12)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:81:12)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]: SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at JSON.parse (<anonymous>)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:123:47)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Container.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:98:51)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Structure.start (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Structure.js:280:631)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Object.<anonymous> (/home/stuart/reactor/app.js:288:80)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1101:14)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1153:10)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:981:32)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:822:12)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:81:12)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]: Promise {
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:   <rejected> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at JSON.parse (<anonymous>)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:123:47)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at Container.getDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:98:51)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at Structure.start (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Structure.js:280:631)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at Object.<anonymous> (/home/stuart/reactor/app.js:288:80)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1101:14)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1153:10)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:981:32)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:822:12)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:       at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:81:12)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]: }
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]: Trace
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at process.<anonymous> (/home/stuart/reactor/app.js:271:162)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at process.emit (node:events:390:28)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at process.emit (node:domain:475:12)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at emit (node:internal/process/promises:136:22)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at processPromiseRejections (node:internal/process/promises:242:25)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]:     at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:97:32)
Mar 18 22:05:28 HP-Thin01 node[402]: [latest-22069]2022-03-18T22:05:28.097Z <app:ERR> Trapped unhandled Promise rejection: [SyntaxError]SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input
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          wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 12:59 AM last edited by
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          The disk going full has resulted in the corruption of your storage folder. You will need to restore a backup.

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            replied to toggledbits on Mar 19, 2022, 2:02 AM last edited by
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            @toggledbits

            What's the storage folder ?

            The entire reactor folder ?

            Thanks.

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              wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:10 AM last edited by
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              @cw-kid it's the folder called storage in your Reactor folder.

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                replied to toggledbits on Mar 19, 2022, 2:12 AM last edited by
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                @toggledbits

                Is that the folder with the rulesets in it ?
                I have a backup of all the folders and files, but it's not very recent.

                Hope I am not going to lose the more recent changes to the rules.

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                  wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:15 AM last edited by cw-kid Mar 18, 2022, 10:24 PM
                  #28

                  Looks like it is

                  e40a6c7e-8815-410c-b288-30683d12ef94-image.png

                  So they are all corrupted ?

                  There are hundreds of rules on those folders

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                    wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:25 AM last edited by cw-kid Mar 18, 2022, 10:27 PM
                    #29

                    Looking in the current storage sub folders the "states" folder has a lot of the files in there are 0kb. But in the other folders like "rules" "rulesets" and "reactions" they still have data it seems and have kb values.

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                      wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:33 AM last edited by
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                      I just deleted all the files in the states folder on the Linux box there was 170 odd files. I then uploaded the files from the backup I had, there were 130 odd files. MSR has now started and loaded in the browser. But I am unsure what I have lost.

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                        wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:43 AM last edited by
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                        That's good sleuthing and good work. Yes, the states folder gets most of the I/O. If it looks like everything else is intact, that's fine. Rules and rule sets would only be damaged if you happened to edit them during the time the disk was full.

                        On the Reactor master device, there are flags for warning you when disk space is becoming limited; rules with notifications may be a good idea, to avoid future unpleasant surprises.

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                          wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:46 AM last edited by
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                          I am assuming I have had a lucky escape here then, all my rules look to be present still, I am assuming "States" is just that as the name suggests the current state of the rules and that they will rebuild and repopulate themselves.

                          I didn't have any auto backup in place as not really sure how to do that in Linux command line, so I was just now and again manually copying the entire contents of the /reactor folder down on to my PC.

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                            wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:47 AM last edited by
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                            All correct.

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                              wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:50 AM last edited by
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                              In Entities under Reactor System I have all this information

                              reactor_system.alert_count=0
reactor_system.alert_last=1647657325518
reactor_system.alert_severity=null
reactor_system.alerts=[]
reactor_system.arch="x64"
reactor_system.hostname="HP-Thin01"
reactor_system.internet_ok=null
reactor_system.platform="linux"
reactor_system.reactor_memory_used=138702848
reactor_system.reactor_uptime=1082
reactor_system.system_load=[0.13,0.15,0.11]
reactor_system.system_memory_free=2020356096
reactor_system.system_memory_size=3537993728
reactor_system.system_uptime=17002.98
reactor_system.volume_critical_reactor_base=false
reactor_system.volume_critical_reactor_data=false
reactor_system.volume_critical_reactor_logs=false
reactor_system.volume_reactor_base=[5390756,13825496,0.389,"/home/stuart/reactor"]
reactor_system.volume_reactor_data=[5390756,13825496,0.389,"/home/stuart/reactor/storage"]
reactor_system.volume_reactor_logs=[5390756,13825496,0.389,"/home/stuart/reactor/logs"]
sys_system.state=true
Capabilities: reactor_system, sys_system
Actions: reactor_system.clear_alert, reactor_system.clear_alerts, sys_system.restart

                              Memory free is that disk or RAM ?

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                                wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:56 AM last edited by
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                                SystemController - Reactor - Multi-Hub Automation

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                                  wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 3:00 AM last edited by
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                                  Ok thanks I will read that tomorrow

                                  Also have to figure out why my Raspberry Pi has gone tits up, that's still totally down, but only InfluxDB and Grafana on there so not the end of the world.

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                                    wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 3:45 AM last edited by cw-kid Mar 18, 2022, 11:46 PM
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                                    Patrick would it be possible for the system to detect if any state files have 0kb values and just delete them automatically ?

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                                      wrote on Mar 19, 2022, 2:34 PM last edited by
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                                      Losing state will cause rules to possibly run unexpectedly. For example, say you had a rule that triggers between sunrise and sunset. If state was lost due to disk full corruption such as this in mid-day, discarding the state at restart will cause the rule to have no state, therefore think it has a transition into the sunrise (triggered) period and fire. This may or may not be a desirable side-effect, depending entirely on how the user determines the rules to work, and I cannot predetermine whether re-running a rule would have side-effects in the user environment or not. Since this can occur unattended (such as while on vacation or at a remote vacation home), it's potentially very troublesome and should at least be corrected with the full awareness of the user, as you have in this case.

                                      My number one recommendation is that you manage filesystem space well on the system. This is always an issue on all systems, and in Linux/Unix systems in particular, processes can die (due to errors) and files can become (logically) corrupt due to disk full conditions. It is something that needs to be managed. In your case, I would remember what log files were deleted, and investigate why those were so large and not being rotated and expired or archived. In your case, it appears you have a single root volume with everything on it. That means any subsystem running on the box can potentially fill the filesystem and cause other applications to misbehave. Best practices for system management often call for segmenting files/directories out. It is not uncommon, for example, to have /var, /usr and /home all on separate filesystems, that any one of them filling (/var often has this issue because it holds system logs and other fast-changing files) would not result in other files in the other directories to become corrupt or truncated. Taking this to an extreme, but if hardening Reactor is mission-critical to you, it is possible to create a small volume and mount it as /var/reactor at boot time, and use that as the home for the storage directory (and config, but not Reactor's logs), thereby isolating and protecting Reactor's storage from everything else. This is all Linux system management stuff, so not really appropriate to deep dive into, but if you're going to use and maintain these systems as part of your infrastructure, well worth spending the time to learn. A must really, because when it goes wrong, and it will go wrong, your fluency in system management will directly determine the time it takes to recover, and how well (or not) you recover.

                                      I can take more mitigating steps to harden startup, and I will definitely do that. I will also see about adding Status page alerts for disk space problems. The way Reactor works, if the disk space problem is mitigated before a restart of Reactor (i.e. while Reactor is running), Reactor will (eventually) rewrite the files with state (which is cached in RAM during operation) -- at shutdown, Reactor writes the RAM state back to disk as a final assurance that they are in sync, just for this reason. But I cannot protect those files from every eventuality, and every other subsystem on the machine works pretty much the same way (rebooting after fixing a no-space condition is always recommended, because many daemons will just die when they can't write a file).

                                      And as I've said again and again and again, please read the documentation and look at your log files. If you see something in the log files that points to obvious issue, handle it. If you don't know how to handle it, post the log file snippet and remember that context is vital, so posting 2-3 lines of a log file may provide little or no useful information (even when the error contains module names and line numbers); it often takes a dozen or more lines of context prior to really interpret how the system got to the crash point, so you must post a least a dozen or more lines prior to any error message you are inquiring about. Fortunately in this case, it was pretty obvious.

                                      Pardon errors. Tapping this out on a bluetooth keyboard and over my home VPN on sketchy Internet made this a bit of a chore. Onward.

                                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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