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CatmanV2C
Having been messing around with some stuff I worked a way to self trigger some tests that I wanted to do on the HA <> MSR integration This got me wondering if there's an entity that changes state / is exposed when a configured controller goes off line? I can't see one but thought it might be hidden or something? Cheers C
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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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Need help with sequence
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Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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CatmanV2C
I'm sure this has been asked, and answered, but damned if I can figure it out Use case: I have a rear garden with lights. A door from the kitchen into the garden and a door from the garage. Currently if I open the kitchen door the lights come on (yay) and a 3 minute delay starts. After 3 minutes, no matter what else happens, the lights go off (Boo! But also yay!) What I would like is for the 3 minute delay until the lights go off to start from the latest door open event. That is, if I'm going from kitchen to garage, and back again, the lights stay on until there's three minutes of no activity. I've tried 'hacking' with a virtual switch, but can't seem to stop the delay. Any pointers? TIA C
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    #4

    I use my Sonos to speak "Internet access has been lost" in Jarvis' voice when Internet access fails. It tells everyone it's restored when it comes back. I also use a Z-Wave socket to power cycle the interface equipment at the 15 minutes down mark.

    The only trick to that is that I've pre-TTS'd the speech to audio files, which I serve from Reactor in the config/usermedia directory, and the Sonos just plays the audio file from there so there's no Internet/cloud dependency to get the speech at the time it's needed. I use this mechanism for a number of other notifications as well.

    I also have a Zooz siren that can play a dozen or two different sounds, so, for example, I make it chirp like a car alarm whenever a garage door is open. It has a built-in phrase for water leak detection, so I use that as well.

    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      Kids feel a little extreme! 🙂

      Hmm, that's an idea that might have legs. Would you be prepared to share the script at all?

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      Crille
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      #5

      @CatmanV2 My script requires Powershell, Pushover, static WAN IP or dynDNS on your router, remote access to router and preferably a static IP on the remote host running the script (to restrict router remote access to that IP). If that fits you I sure can share it.

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        Thanks, but no. Linux only. Cheers anyway!

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          I use my Sonos to speak "Internet access has been lost" in Jarvis' voice when Internet access fails. It tells everyone it's restored when it comes back. I also use a Z-Wave socket to power cycle the interface equipment at the 15 minutes down mark.

          The only trick to that is that I've pre-TTS'd the speech to audio files, which I serve from Reactor in the config/usermedia directory, and the Sonos just plays the audio file from there so there's no Internet/cloud dependency to get the speech at the time it's needed. I use this mechanism for a number of other notifications as well.

          I also have a Zooz siren that can play a dozen or two different sounds, so, for example, I make it chirp like a car alarm whenever a garage door is open. It has a built-in phrase for water leak detection, so I use that as well.

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          CatmanV2
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          #7

          @toggledbits Very neat. I'm not sure if similar is possible with Alexa using HA but it gives me something to look at. Might have a look at the Zooz as well

          Cheers

          C

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            Well the Sonos thing got me thinking. There's no apparent equivalent of local playing in Alexa, but what I do have is several Volumio devices dotted around. These have a nice little Rest API that I usually use to wake us up in the morning. Quick bit of AI Text to speech and now one of my Volumios will alert if the internet fails.
            Which is nice!

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              I use my Sonos to speak "Internet access has been lost" in Jarvis' voice when Internet access fails. It tells everyone it's restored when it comes back. I also use a Z-Wave socket to power cycle the interface equipment at the 15 minutes down mark.

              The only trick to that is that I've pre-TTS'd the speech to audio files, which I serve from Reactor in the config/usermedia directory, and the Sonos just plays the audio file from there so there's no Internet/cloud dependency to get the speech at the time it's needed. I use this mechanism for a number of other notifications as well.

              I also have a Zooz siren that can play a dozen or two different sounds, so, for example, I make it chirp like a car alarm whenever a garage door is open. It has a built-in phrase for water leak detection, so I use that as well.

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              @toggledbits using a very similar setup and works nicely!

              Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT & ZWA-2

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                Sonos is an expensive way to make announcements. For those of you (us) using Raspberry Pi's, they can play audio from the 3.5mm audio jack, so I've whipped up a python-scripted MQTT client that plays a media file on request either from local storage or a URL (e.g. your LAN NAS or Reactor's user media endpoint, or anywhere your Internet access will allow). I'll publish that to Github later today for anyone interested.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  That sounds very neat.

                  The biggest 'challenge' I have is that my Volumio Pis are not all connected to an amp or speakers. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts on how I might get around that?

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                    Perhaps https://a.co/d/ixBUa2M ? Can be powered from the 5V and GND pins on the Pi.

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      Or this? https://www.adafruit.com/product/987

                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                        Like it. Even if not, pretty sure my preferred POE could drive it.

                        Just would be so much better if we could alert to a phone. Which I think I can...

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                          Had a poke around. There is a service in HA that allows (it claims) Local Push Notifications to devices running the HA Helper App.

                          This exposes a notify method to MSR and you can hand it JSON. Lo, a notification from the HA app pops up on the phone.

                          So another option 🙂

                          Thanks for all thoughts 🙂

                          C

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                            That sounds very neat.

                            The biggest 'challenge' I have is that my Volumio Pis are not all connected to an amp or speakers. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts on how I might get around that?

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                            @CatmanV2 back in the old days of no reliable internet at our new house, I had a raspberry connected via Bluetooth to the Alexa in the main room. I just played pre-recorded audio files and it worked very good.
                            Low tech solutions are the best 🤣

                            Also, some echo devices have the line in. If you have something plugged in, they will play what's sent.

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                              Interesting. I did try that, but Volumio doesn't support it. I guess a Rasbian type would be worth looking at.

                              I assume the Pi connected, played then disconnected as opposed to 'hogging' the BT?

                              Cheers

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                                And another option! OS X has a 'say' command that does, well, exactly what you'd think.

                                And it's possible to unmute the output from a command line so ssh to my local macs, run the script and Robert is your father's brother

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                                  Interesting. I did try that, but Volumio doesn't support it. I guess a Rasbian type would be worth looking at.

                                  I assume the Pi connected, played then disconnected as opposed to 'hogging' the BT?

                                  Cheers

                                  C

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                                  @CatmanV2 nope, always connected

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                                    Interesting, ta. Think I've got an old pi kicking around. OTOH between one Volumio, HA Companion on my phone, and all my Macs talking to me, I think I have enough 😄

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                                      piannunciator lives!

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                                        Niiiice!

                                        Thanks
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                                          piannunciator lives!

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                                          @toggledbits time for a custom mqtt template 🤣

                                          all that said, many echo devices have line in and it’s always sending out the sound. This could certainly be another low-fi option.

                                          I have a portable ikea outdoor speaker for the pool, paired via bt with an echo and sending out line in coming from the tv. I’ll probably do something similar in the new beach house.

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