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[cw-kid]

Looking at using Home Assistant for the first time, either on a Home Assistant Green, their own hardware or buying a cheap second hand mini PC.

Sounds like Home Assistant OS is linux based using Docker for HA etc.

Would I also be able to install things like MSR as well on their OS ? On the same box?

Thanks.

[therealdb]

Docker is the way to go. I have two distinct hosts (one mainly as failover) and dozens of docker containers running alongside. The best feature is separation between them, so that if you mess with them, your system will run stable anyway and just the problematic containers will be impacted. Also, using docker compose file setup is a breeze. Not an easy learning curve, but doable.

[CatmanV2]

You can't (sensibly) install additional, non supported things on HAOS

Docker is powerful, but feels rather like a steep learning curve in this case (as mentioned) I'd either get a couple of old NUCs from ebay, or get a decent(ish) NAS with VM capability. Much simpler IMHO

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[therealdb]

It’s just the first phase that’s complicated. In terms of every day operations, it’s very easy to manage and automate. Plus, no need to backup the entire vm but you’re good with just data and less memory/cpu intensive by design. Worth to explorer when doing a major re-design imho.

[toggledbits]

@therealdb said in Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?:

It’s just the first phase that’s complicate.

Spot on! For most Linux systems, docker is just a package with a one-line install process. From there, life is simple if you install and use docker-compose, for which I include sample configurations in both the documentation and the distribution.

[therealdb]

Yes. It’s just the part where you need to understand paths and ports mapping. The a couple of cli command with docker compose and you’re good to go. Portability and backups are super easy (and fast).

[Pabla]

@toggledbits And Docker can be made even easier with Portainer on top!

[Pabla]

@cw-kid Initially, I wanted to run MSR on HA. But HA OS keeps a lot of things locked down (for better and worse) and occasionally you have to go into the container's directory to make changes and HA OS basically makes that impossible.

[toggledbits]

@Pabla said in Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?:

occasionally you have to go into the container's directory to make changes and HA OS basically makes that impossible.

If you have to go into the container to make changes, something is wrong in the configuration. Nothing inside the container should ever need to be changed. Everything that is "mutable" and configurable by the user should be in the data directory external to the container. So... this comment has me puzzled...

And Docker can be made even easier with Portainer on top!

Not a fan, but I can see the utility. And there's a Portainer add-on for HA OS.

[Pabla]

@toggledbits said in Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?:

If you have to go into the container to make changes, something is wrong in the configuration. Nothing inside the container should ever need to be changed. Everything that is "mutable" and configurable by the user should be in the data directory external to the container. So... this comment has me puzzled...

Had to edit entity config file recently to batch update entity names

[toggledbits]

@Pabla said in Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?:

Had to edit entity config file recently to batch update entity names

You mean in the storage directory?