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[Reactor] Help with screne controller cycling logic
therealdbT
I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically. That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button. Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF. The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule. Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
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CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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Comment in Globa Expressions
Tom_DT
I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.
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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Can't customize home page
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I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
T
@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
tunnusT
I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
T
Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Can´t restart or upgrade/deploy MSR
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[Solved] Limit HA Entity in MSR
wmarcolinW
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Rule update rates, limits, logic loops, warnings and throttling

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    LibraSun
    wrote on last edited by LibraSun
    #1

    As is my custom, I often create ungainly Rules designed to push the limits of MSR until some problem crops up (UI glitch, runtime error, faulty logic, etc.). I'm starting this topic - and sharing a cautionary example below - to invite MSR power users to embrace best practices in their routines.

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      LibraSun
      wrote on last edited by LibraSun
      #2

      Onward to my wayward example...

      Most recently, I noticed this line in Reactor.log

      Rule:WARN (Circulate House Air (auto)) update rate 61/min exceeds limit (60/min)! Logic loop? Throttling...
      

      suggesting that I had an issue in my "Circulate House Air" rule that caused "flapping" -- uncontrolled or unexpectedly high rates of triggering -- which invoked MSR's automatic throttling (suppression) of that rule.

      Because it's a fairly simple rule -- watch two Expressions (one a boolean, the other a calculated value from sensors), and check whether particular virtual switch is ON -- I was easily able to scrutinize its logic and layout.

      Here were the essentials:

      TRIGGERS

      [ Expression Value ] [ tempVar ] [ > ] [ 2 ] // IF temperature variation exceeds a certain threshold (a rare occurrence!); Pulse for 10 sec., repeat every 1200 secs.
      

      CONSTRAINTS

      [ Expression Value ] [ modesMatch ] [ is TRUE ] // only when A/C and Vera show same House Mode setting for 10+ secs.
      [ Entity Attribute ] [ VSwitch.status ] [ is TRUE ] // switch must also be ON
      

      REACTION

      [ Entity Action ] [ ACblower.power ] [ == ] [ 1 ] // turn on blower (auto-resets itself after 30 seconds)
      

      EXPRESSIONS

      tempVar := <mean deviation formula based on 4 sensors>
      modesMatch := <TRUE when A/C house mode matches Vera's>
      

      At first glance, all seemed well. Except MSR had expressly warned me (via the Log, at least) that something was amiss.

      Speculating that it was simply the arrangement of items within TRIGGERS and CONSTRAINTS, I moved the "VSwitch" condition from Constraints up into Triggers, and the "tempVar" expression down into Constraints, then re-enabled the Rule.

      Yet the throttling problem remains, according to the Log. While currently tempVar == 3, the VSwitch is OFF and modesMatch is FALSE -- that is, both Triggers and Constraints read 'false' -- so I would have thought it impossible for the Rule to be so active behind the scenes.

      Any insights on this problem?

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        LibraSun
        wrote on last edited by LibraSun
        #3

        FEATURE REQUEST

        Display each active Rule's current rate and/or display a warning in UI whenever Throttling occurs. (Probably already on the MSR roadmap)

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          wrote on last edited by toggledbits
          #4

          If your log level is 5 or above for the rule in question, you will see messages logged like this:

          2021-03-15T15:21:07.639Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:444> {ruleid} notification {type} {data} from {sender}
          

          So this will tell you what is triggering the request for re-evaluation.

          If you didn't know, you can set the logging level (in config/logging.yaml) for a particular rule, so it's useful to set the generic level (level entry under Rule:) to 4 to keep other rules quiet, and then create a new entry with key Rule#ruleid: and subkey level set to 5 or whatever. This will focus the detailed debug output on the single rule and hold the noise down from the stuff you're not as interested in.

          logging:
            ... other stuff ...
            Rule:
              level: 4
            Rule#rule-f984r5nfe
              level: 5
          

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            LibraSun
            wrote on last edited by LibraSun
            #5

            So far, with the default logging level of 4 set in LOGGING.YAML, I merely see these not-so-illustrative entries immediately before the <WARN> line:

            2021-03-15T15:34:34.150Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:800> Rule#rule-km9hxs0z (Circulate House Air (auto)) evaluate() acquiring mutex
            
            2021-03-15T15:34:34.150Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:804> Rule#rule-km9hxs0z._evaluate() mutex acquired, evaluating
            
            2021-03-15T15:34:34.151Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:808> Rule#rule-km9hxs0z update rate is 61/min limit 60/min
            

            I'll proceed to try higher level inspection (by altering the level: for this Rule only) later today, and see what specifically turns up. For now, I have the Rule disabled.

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              #6

              Do not (ever) change the default logging level. Only change the logging level for the specific Rule and Rule#rule-id classes.

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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