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ReferenceError with Home Assistant data & build 26140
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Multi-System Reactor
Integrations and 'Loaded'
CatmanV2C
Thanks again for the recent release. One thing I wanted to ask about integrations and their 'loaded' condition: Is there something similar that applies to the entire controller? So if I have (for example) a helper in HA that is used to trigger an automation in MSR, is it possible to effectively exclude it until MSR is 'happy' that HA is stable and its values can be trusted? This, actually goes back to the issue I had. I've got a use case where a 30 second delay from triggering is a bit of a PITA (sustained for...) and was just wondering if there's a way of knowing that 'native' HA functions are working correctly. Probably asking wrong, or it's hideously obvious, but... TIA C
Multi-System Reactor
Possible mismatch between binary_sensor in HA and MSR
CatmanV2C
Hi. First off this is an unsupported version of HS 2026.5.2 so happy to be told it's that. Currently running latest-26130-3d2a489a on a Debian Buster bare metal VM. I've been working on moving away from OpenLuup completely and up until now have been using some virtual switches t manage things like 'Is there anyone home' I have a binary sensor in HA that provides the same thing binary_sensor.someone_home which appears in MSR as hass>binary_sensor_someone_home HA shows on or off. MSR shows true or false All fine. The odd thing happened after an update of HA and a restart. From HA 13:07:04 it turned off 13:07:11 it turned on However that does not appear to have been reflected in MSR which turned all the heating and so on off as it is supposed to do, and I got all my notifications as I should. Here's a huge log section (sorry) as I wanted to show how MSR identifies that HA is up and running at 12:07:08 (Zulu) but triggers the 'There's no one here' at 12:07:17 some 6 seconds after HA updated to on. Checking in the interface MSR said the status was 'False' while HA stated 'On' rule-mkwk2fwa.dval:[{"id":1,"container":2,"value":3,"serial":92,"tss":93,"tsc":93},"rule-mkwk2fwa","rules",{"id":1,"serial":4,"triggers":5,"constraints":21,"expressions":24,"name":25,"react_set":26,"react_reset":88,"ruleset":91},16,{"type":6,"id":7,"op":8,"conditions":9,"editor_version":20},"group","trig","and",[10],{"id":11,"type":12,"data":13},"condmkwk2fwa","entity",{"entity":14,"attribute":15,"op":16,"value":17},"hass>person_rachel_matthews","x_hass.state","change",[18,19],null,"not_home",25351,{"type":6,"id":22,"op":8,"conditions":23},"cons",[],{},"Rachel is on the move",{"id":27,"actions":28,"rule":1,"editor_version":87,"set":61},"rule-mkwk2fwa:S",[29,35,62,83],{"id":30,"type":31,"data":32},"24kv27go","setvar",{"var":33,"value":34},"g_CurrentHour","${{int(strftime(\"%H\", 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\"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}"}}}],"constraints":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv7qgg-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kv89zv","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Should speak only when I'm home"}},{"id":"cond24kv7qgh","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":true}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv2lon","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"28xz6paf","type":"notify","data":{"method":"Telegram","message":"Rachel has left the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone and is in transit","profile":"default"}}],"constraints":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv2lon-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kvlpae","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Should telegram while I am 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rule-mkwlg11o.dval:[{"id":1,"container":2,"value":3,"serial":92,"tss":93,"tsc":93},"rule-mkwlg11o","rules",{"id":1,"serial":4,"triggers":5,"constraints":20,"expressions":23,"name":24,"react_set":25,"react_reset":88,"ruleset":91},5,{"type":6,"id":7,"op":8,"conditions":9,"editor_version":19},"group","trig","and",[10],{"id":11,"type":12,"data":13},"condmkwk2fwa","entity",{"entity":14,"attribute":15,"op":16,"value":17},"hass>person_rachel_matthews","x_hass.state","change",[18],"not_home",25351,{"type":6,"id":21,"op":8,"conditions":22},"cons",[],{},"Rachel has arrived",{"id":26,"actions":27,"rule":1,"editor_version":87,"set":65},"rule-mkwlg11o:S",[28,33,39,66,83],{"id":29,"type":30,"data":31},"24kvboht","script",{"expr":32},"g_rachel_last_area = getEntity(\"hass>person_rachel_matthews\").attributes['x_hass'].state",{"id":34,"type":35,"data":36},"24kvbohu","setvar",{"var":37,"value":38},"g_CurrentHour","${{int(strftime(\"%H\", time()))}}",{"id":40,"type":6,"actions":41,"constraints":50},"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohv",[42],{"id":43,"type":12,"data":44},"24kvbohw",{"entity":45,"action":46,"args":47},"hass>system","x_hass_system.call_service",{"service":48,"data":49},"notify.alexa_media","{\n\"message\":\"Good ${{g_Greeting}} Chris. , Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.\",\n\"data\":{\"type\":\"announce\", \"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}",{"id":51,"name":52,"type":6,"op":8,"conditions":53,"editor_version":19},"24kvbohv-cons","Group Constraints Copy",[54,59],{"id":55,"type":56,"data":57},"cond24kv89zv","comment",{"comment":58},"Should speak only when I'm home",{"id":60,"type":12,"data":61},"cond24kv7qgh",{"entity":62,"attribute":63,"op":64,"value":65},"mqqt>catman_iphone","binary_sensor.state","=",true,{"id":67,"type":6,"actions":68,"constraints":76},"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohx",[69],{"id":70,"type":71,"data":72},"24kvbohy","notify",{"method":73,"message":74,"profile":75},"Telegram","Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.","default",{"id":77,"name":52,"type":6,"op":8,"conditions":78,"editor_version":19},"24kvbohx-cons",[79],{"id":80,"type":12,"data":81},"cond24kvmzfp",{"entity":62,"attribute":63,"op":64,"value":82},false,{"id":84,"type":56,"data":85},"24kvbohz",{"comment":86},"Enter comment text",25314,{"id":89,"actions":90,"rule":1,"set":82},"rule-mkwlg11o:R",[],"rs-l5sdq41x",1,1770023368433] rule-mkwlg11o.json:{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o","container":"rules","value":{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o","serial":5,"triggers":{"type":"group","id":"trig","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"condmkwk2fwa","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"hass>person_rachel_matthews","attribute":"x_hass.state","op":"change","value":["not_home"]}}],"editor_version":25351},"constraints":{"type":"group","id":"cons","op":"and","conditions":[]},"expressions":{},"name":"Rachel has arrived","react_set":{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:S","actions":[{"id":"24kvboht","type":"script","data":{"expr":"g_rachel_last_area = getEntity(\"hass>person_rachel_matthews\").attributes['x_hass'].state"}},{"id":"24kvbohu","type":"setvar","data":{"var":"g_CurrentHour","value":"${{int(strftime(\"%H\", time()))}}"}},{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohv","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"24kvbohw","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"hass>system","action":"x_hass_system.call_service","args":{"service":"notify.alexa_media","data":"{\n\"message\":\"Good ${{g_Greeting}} Chris. , Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.\",\n\"data\":{\"type\":\"announce\", \"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}"}}}],"constraints":{"id":"24kvbohv-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kv89zv","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Should speak only when I'm home"}},{"id":"cond24kv7qgh","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":true}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohx","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"24kvbohy","type":"notify","data":{"method":"Telegram","message":"Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.","profile":"default"}}],"constraints":{"id":"24kvbohx-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kvmzfp","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":false}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"24kvbohz","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Enter comment text"}}],"rule":"rule-mkwlg11o","editor_version":25314,"set":true},"react_reset":{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:R","actions":[],"rule":"rule-mkwlg11o","set":false},"ruleset":"rs-l5sdq41x"},"serial":1,"tss":1770023368433,"tsc":1770023368433} catman@openluup:~/reactor/storage/rules$ exit logout Connection to 192.168.70.249 closed. catman@ChrisMBP2021 ~ % ./NotVera ** WARNING: connection is not using a post-quantum key exchange algorithm. ** This session may be vulnerable to "store now, decrypt later" attacks. ** The server may need to be upgraded. See https://openssh.com/pq.html Linux openluup 4.19.0-20-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.235-1 (2022-03-17) x86_64 The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Mon May 18 12:13:38 2026 from 192.168.70.69 cdcatman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/lo locales/ logs/ catman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/logs/ catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ ls console.log hass_config.json hass_services-2025-11-1.json hass_services-2026-1-0.json hass_services-2026-5-2.json reactor.log reactor.log.4 vera-user_data-initial.json device_32 hass_device_registry.json hass_services-2025-11-2.json hass_services-2026-1-1.json hass_services.json reactor.log.1 reactor.log.5 e hass_entity_registry.json hass_services-2025-11-3.json hass_services-2026-4-2.json hass_sources.json reactor.log.2 unhandled.json hass_area_registry.json hass_integrations.json hass_services-2025-7-2.json hass_services-2026-4-4.json hass_states.json reactor.log.3 vera-status-initial.json catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ tail reactor.log [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:20:08.296Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:03.391Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.729Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.734Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"] [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:03.501Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.614Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.624Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"] [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:03.590Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.503Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.506Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"] catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.946Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9yjy9z/trig [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.947Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET' [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.961Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9ylxw3/trig [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.962Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET' [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.995Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l680lif2:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.996Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "House Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l5sdqazh:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET>" (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET>" (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.998Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET>" (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with { } by reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with { } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass service homeassistant.turn_off target data is { } (empty), assuming default entity target [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { }, "domain": "homeassistant", "service": "turn_off", "target": { "entity_id": "input_boolean.heating_mode" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.017Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction House Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l5sdqazh:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.018Z <Engine:INFO> House Mode is Home<RESET> all actions completed. [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.074Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.077Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.090Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.091Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.094Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.111Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.113Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-l5sdqazh reaction rule-l5sdqazh:R completed This is hardly the end of the world as HA restarting is rare and I simply hit refresh on the entity in MSR but is this some kind of race condition or something that needs addressing? Hoping I've given enough data to make it sensible C
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How to shutdown a Windows 10 PC ?

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    Hi

    I am setting up a Windows 10 gaming PC for my daughter.

    I would like to be able to shutdown the PC via an MSR ruleset or by using a global reaction.

    I can wake up the PC via WOL in Vera and thus also within an MSR rule, but not sure how I might shutdown the PC any ideas?

    MSR is running on a Linux Debian box if that makes any difference.

    Thanks

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      I have set this up so far. As there is no IR receiver on this Intel i3 Mini-PC I can't really control it with my Harmony Hub and remote.

      I just created a Harmony activity to turn on the TV and the AVR amp and set them to the right inputs etc.

      Then in my MSR rule my trigger is detecting from Vera when this particular Harmony activity has been started and in my action I am turning ON the WOL switch in Vera, that will send the magic packet to the Mini-PC to wake it up etc.

      2d0146db-5eae-4bc8-8819-246058a265b8-image.png

      But for the reset reaction this is where I need some way to send a shutdown command to the Windows Mini-PC.

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        Also are there any PC gaming experts on here? Not related to MSR but if you have a HDMI PC monitor with no speakers, how do you split out the audio to a set of stand alone PC speakers? My daughter wants a PC gaming setup in her room for playing Steam games and such.

        Currently I've got it running in my lounge though my AVR and 5.1 speakers, but I will be moving the PC upstairs in to her bedroom at some point, when I have bought a monitor and speakers and gaming keyboard and mouse etc which I haven't got yet.

        Thanks

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        • cw-kidC cw-kid

          Also are there any PC gaming experts on here? Not related to MSR but if you have a HDMI PC monitor with no speakers, how do you split out the audio to a set of stand alone PC speakers? My daughter wants a PC gaming setup in her room for playing Steam games and such.

          Currently I've got it running in my lounge though my AVR and 5.1 speakers, but I will be moving the PC upstairs in to her bedroom at some point, when I have bought a monitor and speakers and gaming keyboard and mouse etc which I haven't got yet.

          Thanks

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          @cw-kid said in How to shutdown a Windows 10 PC ?:

          Also are there any PC gaming experts on here? Not related to MSR but if you have a HDMI PC monitor with no speakers, how do you split out the audio to a set of stand alone PC speakers? My daughter wants a PC gaming setup in her room for playing Steam games and such.

          Currently I've got it running in my lounge though my AVR and 5.1 speakers, but I will be moving the PC upstairs in to her bedroom at some point, when I have bought a monitor and speakers and gaming keyboard and mouse etc which I haven't got yet.

          Thanks

          Does the PC not have a separate audio out port?

          If not, you can get HDMI audio extractors off Amazon which give you an Optical and RCA output. Not sure if this will negatively affect user input lag though.

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            Hi

            I am setting up a Windows 10 gaming PC for my daughter.

            I would like to be able to shutdown the PC via an MSR ruleset or by using a global reaction.

            I can wake up the PC via WOL in Vera and thus also within an MSR rule, but not sure how I might shutdown the PC any ideas?

            MSR is running on a Linux Debian box if that makes any difference.

            Thanks

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            @cw-kid I have a small utility running on my PC for the very same reason, that's receiving MQTT messages to shutdown automatically. HASS has a similar 3rd party app to accomplish the same: https://github.com/LAB02-Research/HASS.Agent

            Easy to integrate under MSR.

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              Thanks for the replies !

              I am not using Home Assistant or MQTT however.

              Regarding the audio I just had a look at the back of the Mini-PC and I cannot see any other audio output ports. I will have to find its user manual not even sure what make and model it is.

              The sticker on it says SEI10-G might be the same as this one here on Amazon.

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                Looking at the photos of it on Amazon there is a head phone 3.5mm jack on the front of it and two HDMI on the back of it.

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                  APC used to have a free utility which you might be able to re-purpose.

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                  • cw-kidC cw-kid

                    Thanks for the replies !

                    I am not using Home Assistant or MQTT however.

                    Regarding the audio I just had a look at the back of the Mini-PC and I cannot see any other audio output ports. I will have to find its user manual not even sure what make and model it is.

                    The sticker on it says SEI10-G might be the same as this one here on Amazon.

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                    @cw-kid said in How to shutdown a Windows 10 PC ?:

                    Thanks for the replies !
                    I am not using Home Assistant or MQTT however.

                    HASS is not really needed, but MQTT is mandatory because it's used to exchange messages. The alternative is something running an HTTP endpoint on the PC, but from a security point of view that's bad, but doable.

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                      OK turns out it's comparatively trivial to do it from Linux (was pretty sure it was. So you should be able to execute this. Bit of a faff for set up but...

                      Shutdown Windows machine from linux terminal

                      Shutdown Windows machine from linux terminal

                      I am running an application on linux machine. By giving the ip address of a windows machine as input, the application must shutdown the windows machine. If the machines run the same OS it is very e...

                      Actually reading further, looks like there's some simpler options installing Cygwin or an SSH server and just SSHing in

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                        OK thanks I will take a read and report back.

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                          I updated this PC to Windows 11 and installed OpenSSH Server on it. I was then able to login to it directly via Putty on my other Windows 10 laptop, I was prompted for the username and password and I could then issue a shutdown /p command and it did then shutdown the Mini-PC.

                          I then tried to add my Vera Plus public key on to the Windows 11 PC so that Vera can ssh directly to it with no username and password prompt etc. However its not working I get this error every time.

                          ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 host key mismatch for 192.168.1.47 !
                          

                          192.168.1.47 being the Windows 11 OpenSSH Server

                          I created an authorized_keys file on the Windows 11 PC in this location:

                          C:\Users\myusername\.ssh

                          And in the authorised_keys file I pasted in the Vera Plus pubic key.

                          I also followed the instructions on this article here to enable "Public key authentication" on the OpenSSH Server on the Windows 11 PC.

                          Then reading this Microsoft article it suggested if my windows user is in the administrators group I need to instead create a administrators_authorized_keys file in C:\ProgramData\ssh\

                          So I tried that but I still get the host key mismatch error when I connect to the Vera Plus via putty and then tried to ssh to the Windows 11 PC.

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                            I think you need your public key stored on the Vera. Or possibly a public key that matches the username you're using.

                            There's also an sshd-copy-id command which I found way more reliable than trying to edit authorised keys files. I'd probably use that, then rename the file if needed.

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                              If the Windows PC was previously known to the Vera before your upgrade, it's likely that the SSH key was regenerated on the Windows PC side when you did the upgrade, so the Vera SSH has the old host key. You can remove it from the known_hosts file on the Vera side.

                              That may not be the only problem you run into, though. Of late, many newer SSH clients have removed weaker host key algorithms and key exchange algorithms, so connecting to the ancient, rotting carcasses of these old Veras presents the SSH peer with a set of options it doesn't want to use, and the key exchange fails. That's a bit more complicated to fix...

                              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                I think you need your public key stored on the Vera. Or possibly a public key that matches the username you're using.

                                There's also an sshd-copy-id command which I found way more reliable than trying to edit authorised keys files. I'd probably use that, then rename the file if needed.

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                                @catmanv2

                                I always struggle with this type of stuff. Patrick helped me in the past on this Vera forum thread here.

                                On that old post I wanted my Vera Plus to be able to ssh into my Raspberry Pi with no password prompt.

                                I could then create MSR rules that instruct Vera to run a command like this to say reboot the Raspberry Pi etc.

                                os.execute("ssh pi@192.168.1.101 sudo reboot")

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                                  If the Windows PC was previously known to the Vera before your upgrade, it's likely that the SSH key was regenerated on the Windows PC side when you did the upgrade, so the Vera SSH has the old host key. You can remove it from the known_hosts file on the Vera side.

                                  That may not be the only problem you run into, though. Of late, many newer SSH clients have removed weaker host key algorithms and key exchange algorithms, so connecting to the ancient, rotting carcasses of these old Veras presents the SSH peer with a set of options it doesn't want to use, and the key exchange fails. That's a bit more complicated to fix...

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                                  @toggledbits said in How to shutdown a Windows 10 PC ?:

                                  If the Windows PC was previously known to the Vera before your upgrade, it's likely that the SSH key was regenerated on the Windows PC side when you did the upgrade, so the Vera SSH has the old host key. You can remove it from the known_hosts file on the Vera side.

                                  The Mini-PC was not known to the Vera before. I updated to Windows 11 and then install OpenSSH on the Windows 11 PC.

                                  Before that I did nothing with Vera and the Mini-PC running Windows.

                                  Oh I think I see what might be happening now. Looking in the known_hosts I already have an entry for the static LAN IP address of the Mini-PC but that is for Linux Debian on the Mini-PC.

                                  Before when I was messing about with Ezlo Softhub I setup a dual boot on the Mini-PC for Windows 10 and Debian Linux.

                                  Guess I can't have two known hosts for the same IP address but different OS's.

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                                    Well the keys won't match so no. Edit known-hosts on the Vera and delete the entry for that IP

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                                      OK let me try that then.

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                                        Its working now !

                                        In Putty connected to my Vera Plus I ran a shutdown command to the Windows 11 PC it then said:

                                        Host '192.168.1.47' is not in the trusted hosts file.

                                        I hit Y to continue and Vera has just shutdown the Windows 11 Mini-PC via SSH.

                                        Thanks.

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                                          OK just setup the rest of my MSR rule now with a Reset reaction, that gets the Vera Plus to run a LUA / os.execute shutdown command sent to the Windows 11 PC.

                                          So now when I start my Logitech Harmony activity for the Windows Games PC, MSR triggers the rule and gets Vera to send a WOL packet to the PC to wake it up.

                                          And when I end the Harmony activity the reset reaction in the MSR rule gets Vera to shutdown the PC.

                                          I even managed to get my Harmony Elite remote to launch RetroArch or Steam via buttons on the LCD screen and I also added a ALT+F4 button to exit the Windows apps.

                                          Next thing to figure out is how to split out the HDMI audio to a pair of PC speakers.

                                          Thanks.

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