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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
Multi-System Reactor
Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
therealdbT
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
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I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
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Need help with sequence
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Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
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Reset a delay
CatmanV2C
I'm sure this has been asked, and answered, but damned if I can figure it out Use case: I have a rear garden with lights. A door from the kitchen into the garden and a door from the garage. Currently if I open the kitchen door the lights come on (yay) and a 3 minute delay starts. After 3 minutes, no matter what else happens, the lights go off (Boo! But also yay!) What I would like is for the 3 minute delay until the lights go off to start from the latest door open event. That is, if I'm going from kitchen to garage, and back again, the lights stay on until there's three minutes of no activity. I've tried 'hacking' with a virtual switch, but can't seem to stop the delay. Any pointers? TIA C
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Constraints states visually do not match actual
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zwaveJS controller question/s

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    The docs state "substituting your site's IP address and Authorization Key:" I have replaced the IP, np, but am uncertain what "Authorization Key" is expected here.

    My Home Assistant setup is using zwaveJS UI (the new name for zwavejs2mqtt).

    *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
    *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

    *HAOS
    Core 2026.1.1
    w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
    FW: v1.1
    SDK: v7.23.1

    *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
    MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
    MQTTController: 25139
    ZWave Controller: 25139

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      toggledbits
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      The authorization key was from the preview/development cycle, to limit access to just a handful of people that were working closely with me to get the first version going. You can omit it. I'll update the docs.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        Where are you seeing this, by the way? Specific link/page please.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          Where are you seeing this, by the way? Specific link/page please.

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          @toggledbits /docs/ZWaveJSController/

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          *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
          *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

          *HAOS
          Core 2026.1.1
          w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
          FW: v1.1
          SDK: v7.23.1

          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
          MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
          MQTTController: 25139
          ZWave Controller: 25139

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            Where are you seeing this, by the way? Specific link/page please.

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            @toggledbits Unfortunately, this means I have something else afoot. Let the log-diving commence!

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            *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
            *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

            *HAOS
            Core 2026.1.1
            w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
            FW: v1.1
            SDK: v7.23.1

            *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
            MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
            MQTTController: 25139
            ZWave Controller: 25139

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              toggledbits
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              Did you get it going?

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                Did you get it going?

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                @toggledbits I did not yet (silly day job, getting all in the way of the REAL work...)

                I did get as far as log-diving:

                [latest-22308]2022-11-08T22:06:50.268Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs connecting to ws://192.168.1.198:3000
                [latest-22308]2022-11-08T22:06:50.272Z <ZWaveJSController:WARN> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs websocket error during open/negotation: [Error]Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.1.198:3000
                [latest-22308]2022-11-08T22:06:50.273Z <ZWaveJSController:WARN> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs ws error code ECONNREFUSED
                [latest-22308]2022-11-08T22:06:50.274Z <ZWaveJSController:NOTICE> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs websocket to ws://192.168.1.198:3000 closed during open/negotiation
                [latest-22308]2022-11-08T22:06:50.275Z <ZWaveJSController:NOTICE> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs connection to ws://192.168.1.198:3000 failed; will retry
                [latest-22308]2022-11-08T22:06:50.276Z <ZWaveJSController:INFO> ZWaveJSController#zwavejs retry 912 delay 120000
                

                My initial thought is something is competing for that port - but, again, that's with little to no research beyond pulling the logs.

                *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                *HAOS
                Core 2026.1.1
                w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                FW: v1.1
                SDK: v7.23.1

                *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                MQTTController: 25139
                ZWave Controller: 25139

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                  How are you running ZWave JS UI? (how is it installed, started, etc.?)

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    How are you running ZWave JS UI? (how is it installed, started, etc.?)

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                    @toggledbits Using the Home Assistant add-on.
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                    *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                    *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                    *HAOS
                    Core 2026.1.1
                    w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                    FW: v1.1
                    SDK: v7.23.1

                    *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                    MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                    MQTTController: 25139
                    ZWave Controller: 25139

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                      @toggledbits Using the Home Assistant add-on.
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                      @gwp1 Open its Web UI and make sure the WebSocket (WS) server is enabled... looks like it may not be...

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                        @gwp1 Open its Web UI and make sure the WebSocket (WS) server is enabled... looks like it may not be...

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                        @toggledbits It is.

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                        EDIT: I even cleared the 0.0.0.0 from the Server Host field just in case it was causing something wonky.

                        *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                        *HAOS
                        Core 2026.1.1
                        w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                        FW: v1.1
                        SDK: v7.23.1

                        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                        MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                        MQTTController: 25139
                        ZWave Controller: 25139

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                          0.0.0.0 is another way of saying "any address", so that's OK. Looks like HassOS, then?

                          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                            0.0.0.0 is another way of saying "any address", so that's OK. Looks like HassOS, then?

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                            @toggledbits Yessir on both points.

                            *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                            *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                            *HAOS
                            Core 2026.1.1
                            w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                            FW: v1.1
                            SDK: v7.23.1

                            *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                            MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                            MQTTController: 25139
                            ZWave Controller: 25139

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                              #14

                              It's the devil.

                              Try this: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/63670#issuecomment-1008624418

                              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                It's the devil.

                                Try this: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/63670#issuecomment-1008624418

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                                @toggledbits So this is interesting (to me)...

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                                This isn't running. Should it be? In my initial install of Z-Wave JS UI it seemed to point toward that NOT running, it was handling everything and that just needed to be installed (which it prompted for IIRC.) I do have three devices on and running.

                                EDIT: started Z-Wave JS, third tab Configuration and added this:

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                                Z-Wave JS keeps stopping after I access Z-Wave JS UI which further supports my recollection that they don't both RUN, but both need to COEXIST.

                                *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                                *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                *HAOS
                                Core 2026.1.1
                                w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                                FW: v1.1
                                SDK: v7.23.1

                                *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                                MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                                MQTTController: 25139
                                ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                  I have no idea... you can try it. HassOS is, to me, the devil incarnate, and I don't use it. Others here do, I suspect, and maybe they have some experience to offer. I would take the auto-updates, at least, because HA itself often requires new/latest versions of Z-Wave JS, and everything goes away on that integration when it doesn't get it.

                                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                    Pabla
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                                    You can only run one or the other. Uninstall whichever add on you don't need and try again, I ran into the same issue.

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                                      You can only run one or the other. Uninstall whichever add on you don't need and try again, I ran into the same issue.

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                                      @pabla That did it! Uninstalled one, rebooted the other and applied the tweak that @toggledbits noted previously. Works like a champ - thank you both!

                                      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                                      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                      *HAOS
                                      Core 2026.1.1
                                      w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                                      FW: v1.1
                                      SDK: v7.23.1

                                      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                                      MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                                      MQTTController: 25139
                                      ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                        Quick question @toggledbits : in looking at my iblinds, I see the ability to call for recalibration. The Hubitat community driver has surfaced this. HASS has not (not a surprise, they're quite conservative in what they surface), MSR's zwaveJS controller does not. Is there a way to do so manually (editing a config, for instance)? These blinds wander over time and a scheduled recalibration is very helpful.

                                        *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                                        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                        *HAOS
                                        Core 2026.1.1
                                        w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                                        FW: v1.1
                                        SDK: v7.23.1

                                        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                                        MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                                        MQTTController: 25139
                                        ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                          I would have to look at the device data for the iBlinds devices you have, but I believe that you can access any feature of any device via ZWaveJSController, it just may not be a declared action on a native Reactor capability (in the same way you can call any service in HassController, even if it's not a declared service on the Reactor entity). We just need to figure out what that mechanism is for the iBlinds devices, and either use it as offered, or decide to bring it forward as a simplified action.

                                          Can you point me to online docs for iBlinds that describe how to start (via Z-Wave) the calibration process?

                                          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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