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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
R

Hi guys,

Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular.

Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets.

I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.

Multi-System Reactor
Moving MSR from a QNAP container to RP 5 - some issues
Tom_DT

I have installed MSR on a RP5 bare metal and then copied the config and store files. Everything seems to be on the RP5 but I am missing all global expression and I don't see the controller time.

Screenshot 2025-04-06 201446.png

My browser is Microsoft Edge Version 135.0.3179.54 (Official build) (64-bit)

I have probably done something stupid or missed a step but I am stuck.

Thanks for any help.

Multi-System Reactor
Widget deletion does not work and landing page (status) is empy
M

Hi,
It seems that the widget deletion does not work. I tried to drag the widget to the left (as explained in here https://smarthome.community/topic/1071/deleting-widgets?_=1744037333660)
but it does not delete it. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Also the landing page after login is empty and seems be have some JS issues on the dev console:

Screenshot from 2025-04-07 18-06-19.png

fd7f0424-debb-49d3-86d8-9a3b09ad3868-image.png

Using dockerized version of Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25082-3c348de6 on Chromium 135.0.7049.52 (Official Build) snap (64-bit)

br,
mgvra

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Need help reducing false positive notifications
T

Good day all,
I have an notification set up for my washing machine to let me know when it's complete. I have a templete sensor set up in HAAS to let me know if it's Washing, in Standby, or off, based upon the power consumption (Shelly 1PM on outlets)

- name: "Washing Machine" state: > {% if states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float == 0 %} Off {% elif states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float <= 2.9 %} Standby {% else %} Washing {% endif %} icon: > {% if states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power") == "off" %} mdi:washing-machine-alert {% elif states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float <= 2.9 %} mdi:washing-machine-off {% else %} mdi:washing-machine {% endif %} minutes: 2

The MSR code is relatively simple. I have a built in false positive attribute for if MSR gets rebooted, because I would suddenly get tons of notifications when I upgraded MSR.

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What I'm trying to introduce, is a way to verify that I just didn't bump the knob on the washing machine when transferring loads from the washer to the dryer, which turns on the display and brings the power above the Standby threshold.

The power goes up to 3.7W for about 4 minutes if the selector knob is bumped/turned.

What would the best way to do this be? I have most of my MSR code set up for a couple of years now, and my coding logic is struggling a bit.

I think I need a power threshold to be substained for a minimum time period (say 2 or 3 minutes, above 10W), before the other triggers can act. What would the best way to do that be?

Running: latest-25082-3c348de6
Fedora 41 Server
HAAS:
Core
2025.3.4
Supervisor
2025.03.4
Operating System
15.1
Frontend
20250306.0

Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT

Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.

Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Multi-System Reactor
Deleting widgets
tunnusT

Hopefully a trivial question, but how do you delete widgets in a status page? Using build 22266

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MQTT configuration question
tunnusT

I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file

x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }'

While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?

Multi-System Reactor
System Configuration Check - time is offset
F

Hi!

I get this message when I'm on the status tab:

System Configuration Check
The time on this system and on the Reactor host are significantly different. This may be due to incorrect system configuration on either or both. Please check the configuration of both systems. The host reports 2025-04-01T15:29:29.252Z; browser reports 2025-04-01T15:29:40.528Z; difference 11.276 seconds.

I have MSR installed as a docker on my Home Assistant Blue / Hardkernel ODROID-N2/N2+. MSR version is latest-25082-3c348de6.
HA versions are:
Core 2025.3.4
Supervisor 2025.03.4
Operating System 15.1

I have restarted HA as well as MSR multiple times. This message didn´t show two weeks ago. Don´t know if it have anything to do with the latest MSR version.
Do anyone know what I can try?
Thanks in advance!
Let's Be Careful Out There (Hill Street reference...) 🙂
/Fanan

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Programmatically capture HTTP Request action status code or error
therealdbT

I have a very strange situation, where if InfluxDB restarts, other containers may fail when restarting at the same time (under not easy to understand circumstances), and InfluxDB remains unreachable (and these containers crashes). I need to reboot these containers in an exact order, after rebooting InfluxDB.

While I understand what's going on, I need a way to reliable determine that InfluxDB is not reachable and these containers are not reachable, in order to identify this situation and manually check what's going on - and, maybe, in the future, automatically restart them if needed.

So, I was looking at HTTP Request action, but I need to capture the HTTP response code, instead of the response (becase if ping is OK, InfluxDB will reply with a 204), and, potentially, a way to programmatically detect that it's failing to get the response.

While I could write a custom HTTP controller for this or a custom HTTP virtual device, I was wondering if this is somewhat on you roadmap @toggledbits

Thanks!

Multi-System Reactor
ZwaveJSUI - RGBWW BULB - Warm/Cold White interfered with RGB settings - Bulb doesn't change color if in WarmWhite state.
N

Hi ,
I'm on
-Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25067-62e21a2d
-Docker on Synology NAS
-ZWaveJSUI 9.31.0.6c80945

Problem with ZwaveJSUI:
When I try to change color to a bulb RGBWW, it doesn't change to the RGB color and the bulb remains warm or cold white.
I tryed with Zipato RGBW Bulb V2 RGBWE2, Hank Bulb HKZW-RGB01, Aentec 6 A-ZWA002, so seems that it happens with all RGBWW bulb with reactor/zwavejsui.

I'm using from reator the entity action: "rgb_color.set" and "rgb_color.set_rgb".
After I send the reactor command, It changes in zwavejsui the rgb settings but doesn't put the white channel to "0", so the prevalent channel remains warm/cold White and the bulb doesn't change into the rgb color.

This is the status of the bulb in zwavejsui after "rgb_color.set" (235,33,33,) and the bulb is still warmWhite.

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor={"warmWhite":204,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}

The "cold white" and "warm white" settings interfer with the rgb color settings.

Reactor can change bulb colors with rgb_color set — (value, ui8, 0x000000 to 0xffffff) or rgb_color set_rgb — (red, green, blue, all ui1, 0 to 255) but if warm or cold white
are not to "0", zwavejsui doesn't change them and I can't find a way to change into rgb or from rgb back to warm white.

So if I use from reactor: rgb_color set_rgb — (235,33,33) in zwavejsui I have

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: targetColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: targetColor 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: currentColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: currentColor

In zwavejsui, the bulb changes rgb set but warm White remains to "204" and the bulb remais on warm White channel bacause is prevalent on rgb set.

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_0=204 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_1=0 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_2=235 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_3=33 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_4=33

Is it possible to targetColor also for "warmWhite" and "coldWhite" and have something similar to this?

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"warmWhite":0,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}

Thanks in advance.

Multi-System Reactor
Problem with simultaneous notifications.
T

Good day all,
I have a reaction set up, that I use for both troubleshooting and changing home modes when one of my family members either arrive or are leaving. I use the companion app for HAAS on our iPhones, and HAAS reports if the person associated with the iPhone enters or leaves the geofenced area around my home. I'm sure most MSR and HAAS users are familiar with this.

I use this rule set mainly as a condition for other rules, however, as part of troubleshooting, a notification is sent through HAAS to the companion app when the rule becomes true. The problem is that I'm getting notifications now for both arriving and departing simultaneously.

96b3f7db-ba09-499e-a78c-86903b603857-image.png

36903cdd-a87f-473b-82ef-af9ef96d3c44-image.png It used to work fine as intended. I'm not sure exactly when it changed, but now I'm getting two notifications when either of these conditions change.

Any idea what could be happening?

Edit:
Running: latest-25082-3c348de6, bare-metal Linux
ZWaveJSControllerr [0.1.25082]

Multi-System Reactor
Problem after upgrading to 25067
R

MSR had been running fine, but I decided to follow the message to upgrade to 25067. Since the upgrade, I have received the message "Controller "<name>" (HubitatController hubitat2) could not be loaded at startup. Its ID is not unique." MSR throws the message on every restart. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
I am running MSR on a Raspberry Pi4 connecting to two Hubitat units over an OpenVPN tunnel. One C8 and a C8 Pro. Both are up-to-date. It appears that despite the error message that MSR may be operating properly.

Multi-System Reactor
Global expressions not always evaluated
tunnusT

Similarly as for local expressions, global expressions evaluate and update fine when getEntity(...) structure is used. However, at least when certain functions are in use, expressions do not update.

Consider the following test case:

Screenshot 2025-03-13 at 16.29.42.png

Even though auto-evaluation is active, value does not change (it changes only if that expression is manually run). MSR restarts do not help.

Screenshot 2025-03-13 at 16.31.43.png

Note: Tested using build 25067 on Docker. I have also a PR open (but couldn't now get details or PR number as my Mantis account was somehow expired?).

Multi-System Reactor
[Solved] Local expression evaluation
V

Trying to understand what cause a local expresssion to be evaluated. I have read the manual but I am still not clear about it. Using the test rule below, I can see in the log that the rule is being automatically evaluated every time the temperature entity is changing. That is great...

What I am trying to understand is why the expression is not evaluated based on time as well since the "case" statement has time dependencies.

Any help would be appreciated

I have the following test rule:

eba6a3ea-ff61-4610-88c9-9b9864f11ff8-Screenshot 2025-01-21 095244.png

2d9c1ff5-7b73-4005-b324-9029c2709db9-Screenshot 2025-01-21 095302.png

Here is the expressioncode:

vFrom1 = "09:25:00", vFrom2 = "09:30:00", vFrom3 = "09:41:00", vTo = "10:55:00", # Get current time (format HH:MM:SS) vToDay = strftime("%H:%M:%S"), #Get current house temperature CurrentHouseTemp = getEntity( "hass>Thermostat2 " ).attributes.temperature_sensor.value, case when CurrentHouseTemp <= 19 and vToDay >= vFrom1 && vToDay <= vTo: "true1" # From1 when CurrentHouseTemp <= 20 and vToDay >= vFrom2 && vToDay <= vTo: "true2" # From2 when CurrentHouseTemp < 26  and vToDay >= vFrom3 && vToDay <= vTo: "true3" # From3 else "false" end
Multi-System Reactor
[Solved] Runtime error when exiting global reaction that contains a group
S

I am getting a Runtime error on different browsers when I click exit when editing an existing or creating a new global reaction containing a group. If the global reaction does not have a group I don't get an error. I see a similar post on the forum about a Runtime Error when creating reactions but started a new thread as that appears to be solved.

The Runtime Error is different in the two browsers
Safari v18.3

@http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:44 You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Google Chrome 133.0.6943.142

TypeError: self.editor.isModified is not a function at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:34) You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Steps to reproduce:
Click the pencil to edit a global reaction with a group.
Click the Exit button.
Runtime error appears.
or
Click Create Reaction
Click Add Action
Select Group
Add Condition such as Entity Attribute.
Add an Action.
Click Save
Click Exit
Runtime error appears.

I don’t know how long the error has been there as I haven’t edited the global reaction in a long time.

Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25060-f32eaa46
Docker
Mac OS: 15.3.1
Thanks

Multi-System Reactor
Cannot delete Global Expressions
SnowmanS

I am trying to delete a global expression (gLightDelay) but for some strange reason, it comes back despite clicking the Delete this expression and Save Changes buttons.

I have not created a global expression for some times and just noticed this while doing some clean-up.

I have upgraded Reactor to 25067 from 25060 and the behaviour is still there. I have restarted Reactor (as well as restarting its container) and cleared the browser's cache several times without success.

Here's what the log shows.

[latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:22.690Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:26.254Z <GlobalExpression:NOTICE> Deleting global expression gLightDelay [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:27.887Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" }

Reactor latest-25067-62e21a2d
Docker on Synology NAS

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Local notification methods?
CatmanV2C

Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method.

This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP.

I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone)

I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions?

TIA

C

Multi-System Reactor
Custom capabilities in MQTT templates
M

Hi,
I'm trying to integrate the sonos-mqtt (https://sonos2mqtt.svrooij.io/) with the MSR and it's coming along nicely so far.
But cannot wrap my head around how to define custom capabilities in MQTT templates. I need this for the TTS announcements and similarly for the notification sounds where I would pass the sound file as parameter.

So this is what I have in the local_mqtt_devices.yaml

capabilities: x_sonos_announcement: attributes: actions: speak: arguments: text: type: string volume: type: int delay: type: int

And this is the template:

templates: sonos-announcement: capabilities: - x_sonos_announcement actions: x_sonos_announcement: speak: topic: "sonos/cmd/speak" payload: expr: > { "text": parameters.text, "volume": parameters.volume, "delayMs": parameters.delay, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" } type: json

So the speak action should send something like this to topic sonos/cmd/speak

{ "text": "message goes here", "volume": 50, "delayMs": 100, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" }

At startup the MSR seems to be quite unhappy with my configuration:

reactor | [latest-25016]2025-02-09T08:19:59.029Z <MQTTController:WARN> MQTTController#mqtt entity Entity#mqtt>sonos-announcement unable to configure capabilities [Array][ "x_sonos_announcement" ] reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} has unrecognized capability {1:q} in actions reactor | Trace: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:611:28) reactor | at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:125:25) reactor | at MQTTController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:627:30) reactor | at MQTTController.start (/var/reactor/ext/MQTTController/MQTTController.js:268:26) reactor | at async Promise.allSettled (index 0) Configuration for "sonos-announcement" has unrecognized capability "x_sonos_announcement" in actions Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM Configuration for "sonos-announcement" is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: x_sonos_announcement Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM

This is probably a pretty stupid question and the approach may not even work at all, but maybe someone or @toggledbits for sure, could point me to the right direction.
Basically the idea is to be able to send TTS messages from reactions using entity actions. I've previously used HTTP requests to Sonos HTTP API (https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisns/docker-node-sonos-http-api/) for the same functionality, but since moving to sonos-mqtt, I need a way to send the TTS notifications using MQTTController. Along with the actual message, volume and delay must also be parameterizable.

br,
mgvra

MSR latest-25016-d47fea38 / MQTTController [0.2.24293]

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[SOLVED]Hass websocket falsely reporting ready on boot??
V

Hi, @toggledbits

I just noticed that following a reboot of my raspberry pi, some of the rules, that I was expecting to recover, are not catching up following a reboot. I have made a simple test rule (rule-m6rz6ol1) with only "after Date/time" as trigger and "turn on a lamp" as a set reaction. All my infrastructure is on the same board so Reactor, Hass, Zwavejs, ... are all rebooting.

Here is the sequence of the test case (All time converted to Zulu to match logs):

Rule "after Date/Time" set to 14:05:00z Shutdown on Raspberry Pi at 14:04:00z Power back up at 14:08:00z Rule overview shows true as of 14:08:14z waiting for 00:00:00 in GUI

From the log I can see that MSR is picking up the rule and knows that the state of the rule has changed from false to true and tries to send the update to HASS but failed with websocket error.

Here is what I see from the log:

14:04:04z shutdown complete 14:08:08z Power up 14:08:13.111z websocket connection 14:08:15:323z Reaction to the light failed, Websocket not opened After there is a series of websocket connection attempt until 14:08:51z where it seemed to be really ready.

Back in 2021 we had a discussion (https://smarthome.community/topic/700/solved-start-up?_=1738766986566) and you proposed to add a startup_delay:xxxx and startup_wait:xxxx parameter in the engine section of "reactor.yaml". When I try the startup_delay (this used to be a hard delay), the engine failed to start (I think). I then try the startup_wait:xxxx without any success. Since it wait for the connection status to be up to cancel the delay, it does not do anyting since Hass is reporting the socket up without really being up ( I think...).

Questions:

Did I figured it all wrong? should the startup_delay:xxxxx have worked? Any ideas?

Here is the log:

OK now I am stuck. I did add the log but when I submit the editor complained saying that I am limited to 32767 characters. The log from the shutdown to the time the websocket is stable is about 300000 character long. What are my options?

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[SOLVED]Logs permissions for Docker Install
V

Not a big issue simply a request if easily doable.

The MSR logs files inside the container are owned by root witch is fine however, the permissions are very restrictive. I do not know if there is something wrong with my installation but the logs permission are set to 222 (write only). Even if the docker volume is set for Read/Write the log files are retaining these values.

I go around the problem by doing a chmod 777 on all reactor logs but every time there is an MSR log rotation the permissions are set back to 222. So unless the permission are implemented in the container there is no permanent solution to this (that I know of).

I do not know much about Docker container so I do not know what is involved here.

Can the logfiles permission be simply chaged in the container to at least allow "other" read permission?

Could the MSR log rotation routine implement a chmod to set the permission?

Just a small anoyance

Thanks

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[Solved] Hubitat Hub Information Driver v3 and probe device

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    I have upgraded my Hubitat Hub Information Driver to v3 and after the latest MSR update latest-23028 MSR is working ok. The problem is when MSR probes the device it appears to affect the polling in the new Hub Information Device and its data does not update the data fields in Hubitat. If I remove the Hub Information Device from Maker API so MSR can't see it, The Hub information driver updates the data as expected in Hubitat. I added the device back into Maker API the same problem returns in Hubitat. I have tried to have MSR probe a different device by adding a different probe device and probe action in the reactor.yaml per the documentation but it appears then it still uses the Hub Information Device as the probe device instead of the one specified in the reactor.yaml. See Logs below. Is this the intended behavior to always use the Hub Information Driver if found and not use the device in the reactor.yaml file? Any recommendations on how to get MSR and the v3 of the driver to work correctly or can you see what I am doing wrong?

    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.471Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller HassController#hass is now online.
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.471Z <Rule:INFO> Internet Check (rule-l44qss4f in Home) starting evaluation; because entity-changed System#reactor_system>system
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.471Z <Rule:INFO> MSR Update Version Available (rule-labweim2 in Notify) starting evaluation; because entity-changed System#reactor_system>system
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.472Z <Rule:INFO> Internet Check (rule-l44qss4f in Home) trigger evaluation result is false (previously false)
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.472Z <Rule:INFO> Internet Check (rule-l44qss4f in Home) evaluated; trigger state unchanged (false); rule state remains RESET
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.472Z <Rule:INFO> MSR Update Version Available (rule-labweim2 in Notify) trigger evaluation result is false (previously false)
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.472Z <Rule:INFO> MSR Update Version Available (rule-labweim2 in Notify) evaluated; trigger state unchanged (false); rule state remains RESET
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.472Z <Rule:INFO> Internet Check (rule-l44qss4f in Home) evaluation complete
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.472Z <Rule:INFO> MSR Update Version Available (rule-labweim2 in Notify) evaluation complete
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.673Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat Maker API responded with 91 devices
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.766Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat found 'Hub Information Driver v3' device #"481"; using for probe/health checks.
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.780Z <Controller:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat 0 dead entities older than 86400000s purged
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.780Z <Rule:INFO> Roku Pause (rule-l3nlrzu9 in Home) starting evaluation; because entity-changed BinarySensor#hubitat>519
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.780Z <Rule:INFO> Stairs Light Low Light (rule-kulslls9 in Living Room) starting evaluation; because entity-changed BinarySensor#hubitat>519
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.780Z <Rule:INFO> Porch Motion Extended check (rule-l3kr45m8 in Porch) starting evaluation; because entity-changed BinarySensor#hubitat>519
    [latest-23028]2023-02-11T23:27:50.780Z <Rule:INFO> Porch Light Manual On (rule-kmtxw155 in Porch) starting evaluation; because entity-changed BinarySensor#hubitat>519
    

    Snippet from the reactor.yaml:

     # action_pace: 100
          # warn_unresponsive: true
          # probe_device: hubitat>132 (not needed if Hub Information app installed)
          probe_device: hubitat>2
          # probe_action: x_hubitat_Configuration.configure (not needed if Hub Information app installed)
          probe_action: x_hubitat_Configuration.configure
          # probe_action: x_hubitat_Refresh.refresh
    

    Synology Docker latest-23028
    Hubitat v2.3.4.139
    Hub Information Driver v3

    Synology Docker MSR, Hubitat, Home Assistant, Homebridge, ZwaveJS, MQTT, NUT controller.

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      I am not able to duplicate the behavior you describe (Hub Info stops polling). I suggest you check your polling interval in your Hub Information device configuration and make sure it's a sensible number (and specifically not 0). There also have been several bug fix releases of that driver; the current version is 3.0.14 and that's what you should be on.

      The documentation describes the probe_device config as an integer; that's not what you have shown. It should be the device number only. It doesn't need to know which controller because you are in configuration for a controller. The Hub Information driver, if present, is still the preferred device and will override.

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        I am running the latest version of the driver: v3.0.14.
        It appears to me when MSR probes the device or if you press configure in the driver, all the new scheduled poll times increase causing them never to run. I have my poll times set as follows: poll1: 9 mins, poll2: 119 mins, poll3: 241 mins, poll4: 12 hours.
        Screen Shot 2023-02-12 at 2.31.24 PM.png Here is a screenshot showing the scheduled poll times to start:
        Screen Shot 2023-02-12 at 2.29.39 PM.png

        After MSR polls the scheduled poll times:
        Screen Shot 2023-02-12 at 2.40.38 PM.png

        Poll3 and poll2 are not running.
        Here is what I'm polling in the driver.
        Screen Shot 2023-02-12 at 3.13.54 PM.png

        I know this is not your driver but I'm encouraged if you are not seeing a problem. I must have something configured wrong. Would you mind checking your driver and see if your scheduled times increase also?

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          They do. I use much a much shorter interval (actually, the default 300). It behaves the same way just using a simple refresh action.

          That's going to make Hub Information Driver v3 unusable for this purpose, and send me back to the drawing board on the detection and probe for quiet channel. I'll look into it, but it may be a few days before I have time. I'm on other projects.

          In your post/screen shots, I don't see any evidence, however, that the polls are not running. If they are scheduled, they are running. It's just a change in the interval caused by the Configure or Refresh. From what I can see, every attribute is being updated when the probe occurs. I am not seeing that the updates stop. So that just means things are being updated probably more frequently than you've scheduled -- pretty much opposite what you're reporting here. Are you seeing things that should be updated not be, or are you just assuming they haven't updated because of timing change?

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            It looks like when MSR probes the device, it then resets the next scheduled poll times to the time of the probe + whatever time you have set to poll in the device preferences. If you have small poll times then the polls might fire between MSR polls. Here is the filtered Hubitat log showing which polls run. lastPoll: baseData is when MSR does the probe. The first part of the log is with the poll:1 time is set at 9 minutes. If the time elapsed since a MSR probe > than 9 minutes then the poll:1 will run. It ran once at 06:45:15. I then changed the poll1 time from 9 mins to 3 mins at 8:00pm to test. You can see it ran more often but I don't know why the baseData slowed way down also.

            dev:4812023-02-13 08:39:50.352 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:37:48.478 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:34:48.349 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:31:48.207 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:28:48.062 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:25:48.076 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:23:46.117 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:20:45.974 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:17:45.811 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:14:45.676 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:11:45.509 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:08:45.408 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:05:45.460 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:03:43.698 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 08:00:43.644 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:56:18.977 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:54:17.207 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:50:52.589 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:44:17.322 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:39:17.057 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:36:18.474 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:34:16.720 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:26:27.444 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:24:16.188 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:21:27.225 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:14:58.542 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:09:15.465 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:04:15.275 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 07:01:16.758 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 06:59:14.981 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 06:54:14.847 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 06:45:15.886 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            dev:4812023-02-13 06:36:15.792 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 06:34:14.031 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 06:29:52.364 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 06:26:15.479 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 06:24:13.706 PMinfolastPoll : baseData
            dev:4812023-02-13 06:19:41.211 PMinfolastPoll : poll1
            

            I am not looking for an immediate fix or change, Just trying to communicate to you what I am seeing.

            Would it be an option to write your own virtual device driver for Hubitat so you could probe that device and return the data you want for the health check?

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              That is all clear to me. What I am trying to convey to you is that the rescheduling of the polls does not mean that the Hub Information Driver v3 is not updating its attributes (in effect, doing the polls). When Reactor causes the probe (if it needs to), the driver does its poll at the time of the request, updates all of the attributes, and then reschedules for the next poll. So the attributes are still being updated, as I said, just sometimes earlier than the driver itself would do. I could leave it that way and most users would never know or care.

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                With all due respect and I do mean that and without beating this to death, I am only seeing the attributes that update when MSR probes are the baseData attributes witch per the Hub information driver’s documentation are (attributes: firmwareVersionString, hardwareID, id, latitude, localIP, localSrvPortTCP, locationId, locationName, longitude, name, temperatureScale, timeZone, type, uptime, zigbeeChannel, zigbeeEui, zigbeeId, zigbeeStatus, zipCode). I can find these attributes updating in the logs every time. Some examples of attributes that are not updating are publicIP and hubUpdateVersion among others. I use those attributes in rules and they do not update. I can not find evidence of these being updated in the logs or driver unless you set the poll time for these to very fast interval as I tried to document in the previous post. I do believe the next scheduled poll time is accurate and the attributes associated with the polls will not update until that time. Probably the best thing to do is to revert to the v2 driver.

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                  Installation of Reactor build 23049 and configuring a virtual switch as a probe device appears to be working well.
                  FYI, The "Manual" link in the Reactor UI doesn't have the updated docs that are linked to in the Release notes thread. Hubitat Controller, Other Configuration, probe_device section. I have tried a hard reset in safari and Firefox browsers but the documentation is not the updated instructions. Thank You.
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                    Great. Thanks for letting me know.

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