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  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

    Go to your Entities list, and find the window_sensors group entity, look at its attributes while you open and close a listed sensor. If it's not changing, then you either have an error in your DGC configuration, or the device(s) aren't responding as expected.

    Remember also your basic troubleshooting steps: any time something doesn't work the way you expect it to, go look in the log files for messages. DGC configures groups at startup, so look at the messages logged for DynamicGroupController during startup.

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    tamorgen
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    #17

    @toggledbits
    I was just going around the hosue and testing different windows.

    Some of the windows seem to work. When I use sys_group.empty (primary), the value when all the windows are closed is True: The windows that are working, the boolean changes to false and the Local Expression value (window_names) changes to that window. I'm going to have to pinpoint which windows aren't working correctly. It could be an issue in the HA configuration.yaml for the DSC/Envisalink entries. That's for me to figure out.

    The only other issue is the message. It's not sending the value of the string. I'm receiving $ Opened!

    message: ${{ window_names }} Opened!
    

    Edit: The one I had been testing with, right next to my office desk, does change in the entities tab.

    Office Windows
    hass>binary_sensor_office_windows
    true
    1:38:38 PM

    Edit 2: I copied and pasted from the Entities tab the Office Windows Canoncial ID into the reactor.yaml config. Even though they looked identical, once I restarted reactor, that window is now responding properly. I suspect I may have hidden characters in the ones that aren't functioning.

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      @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

      Seems OK

      It's still not tripping in MSR when I open a window.

      This is what is being shown when all the windows are closed. I'm not really paying atention to the comparssion value, jsut the current value it's displaying. That value isn't changing.

      589719a4-62af-420a-aefe-83ceb44a5801-image.png

      I tried it with sys_group.members as well.

      87f1c786-11f3-475c-9e3e-99adf122f89e-image.png

      None of the comparisons seem to make any difference. Current value: array:0) "" remains the same in any state of the windows.

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      @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

      @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

      Seems OK

      It's still not tripping in MSR when I open a window.

      This is what is being shown when all the windows are closed. I'm not really paying atention to the comparssion value, jsut the current value it's displaying. That value isn't changing.

      589719a4-62af-420a-aefe-83ceb44a5801-image.png

      I tried it with sys_group.members as well.

      87f1c786-11f3-475c-9e3e-99adf122f89e-image.png

      None of the comparisons seem to make any difference. Current value: array:0) "" remains the same in any state of the windows.

      I went back to all the windows in the reactor.yaml file and copied the values directly from the Entities tab. They are all now working.

      The only thing not working is the notification. Any ideas what the cause could be?

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        @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

        @toggledbits said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

        Seems OK

        It's still not tripping in MSR when I open a window.

        This is what is being shown when all the windows are closed. I'm not really paying atention to the comparssion value, jsut the current value it's displaying. That value isn't changing.

        589719a4-62af-420a-aefe-83ceb44a5801-image.png

        I tried it with sys_group.members as well.

        87f1c786-11f3-475c-9e3e-99adf122f89e-image.png

        None of the comparisons seem to make any difference. Current value: array:0) "" remains the same in any state of the windows.

        I went back to all the windows in the reactor.yaml file and copied the values directly from the Entities tab. They are all now working.

        The only thing not working is the notification. Any ideas what the cause could be?

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        @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

        The only thing not working is the notification. Any ideas what the cause could be?

        You have:

        message: ${{ window_names }} Opened!
        

        That stands out because it's not valid YAML. Missing quotes.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          @tamorgen said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

          The only thing not working is the notification. Any ideas what the cause could be?

          You have:

          message: ${{ window_names }} Opened!
          

          That stands out because it's not valid YAML. Missing quotes.

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          #20

          @toggledbits, how should the quotes work for a MSR variable in yaml? I copied your example in the second post, but you aren’t calling a HA function. I’ve been playing around with it, but I’m not getting the variable in the system call.

          I’m looking at this documentation for HA.

          Home Assistant

          Script Syntax

          Script Syntax

          Documentation for the Home Assistant Script Syntax.

          They show an example

          
          data: 
              message: "{{ blind_state_message }}"
          
          

          So, in theory,

              message: "{{ window_names }}" opened.
          

          should be valid. The difference here is that window_names is coming from the local expression.

          However, MSR throws an error, telling me that I have invalid service data.

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            @tamorgen You need MSR to evaluate the whole data being sent

            ${{ { “message”: window_names + “ opened!” } }}
            
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              @tamorgen You need MSR to evaluate the whole data being sent

              ${{ { “message”: window_names + “ opened!” } }}
              
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              @Crille said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

              @tamorgen You need MSR to evaluate the whole data being sent

              ${{ { “message”: window_names + “ opened!” } }}
              

              That's not working either. It actually disables the Play button at he end of Entity Action.

              This is a system call on home assistant (call_service) to send a notification via the HA companion app. The message: text isn't part of the message to be sent, it's yaml code that is part of the data field.

              For example, I have another reaction that sends a message to my phone when my washing machine has completed a cycle.

              Screen Shot 2023-02-23 at 5.56.40 PM.png

              The word message doesn't appear on my phone, just the data after it.

              Here is my current rule:

              Screen Shot 2023-02-23 at 5.59.30 PM.png

              In the Local Expressions, you can see Last value: (string) "Office Windows", so that value should be returned for window_names in the system call.

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                Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

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                  Try my example by hitting the general play button for Reaction.

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                    Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

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                    @Pabla said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                    Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

                    Doesn't work. MSR throws this error.

                    Screen Shot 2023-02-23 at 6.10.33 PM.png

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                      I don't think you have it written correctly here's an example of how I have it used in one of my own notifications
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                        Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

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                        @Pabla said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                        Try without the spaces so it looks like this message: ${{window_names}} Open. MSR supports both JSON and Yaml, but you just gotta make sure theres no errors. Usually online validators help with this

                        That triggers the notification, but the value isn't returned.

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                          Don't use the play button next to the action, use the play button right under set reaction

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                            Don't use the play button next to the action, use the play button right under set reaction

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                            @Pabla said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

                            Don't use the play button next to the action, use the play button right under set reaction

                            Well that makes a difference! This has been driving me nuts all afternoon. Thanks for cluing me in!

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                              It should look like this:

                              message: "${{window_names}} Open"
                              

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