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[Solved] Error: Command timeout
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at _ClientAPI._commandTimeout (http://192.168.1.100:8111/client/ClientAPI.js:807:179 Seeing this randomly when returning to open browser tab after being away awhile. Once, maybe twice a day. "What did you do to trigger it?" Literally nothing, just walked away and returned and there it was. Actions taken in reasonably close proximity to this particular instance of it popping up: I'd restarted the MSR container in Portainer. I'll try to grab some logs here shortly.
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Issue with MSR UI becoming unresponsive
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I'm having an issue with MSR's UI being very unresponsive. It started happening a couple days ago and I didn't make any changes that would have caused this except adding some meross lan devices in HA. When I go into an entity action and use the search functionality, it usually will start filtering and then get to a place after a few letters are entered where it will take 30 seconds or more (sometimes minutes) for the UI to show what I am typing. During this time MSR ui is completely unresponsive. I've tried multiple browsers and multiple computers. HA and MSR are both deployed in docker. I have run HTOP on the host and when the problem happens there are no CPU/Memory spikes at all. From a functionality standpoint MSR is working perfectly. This seems to be an UI issue only. Do i need to ditch Docker and run MSR on a Proxmox VM? I have both stand alone Docker and Proxmox environments. I dont mind doing that I just want to be able to use the UI again... Installation method Home Assistant Container Core 2025.7.3 Frontend 20250702.3 nothing crazy in the logs except some openweather map stuff that doesn't make any sense as it is working fine in MSR Any help would be greatly appreciated Reactor latest-25328-b2ed1365 app 25328 configuration from /var/reactor/config NODE_PATH /opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.843Z <app:null> Reactor build latest-25328-b2ed1365 starting on v24.11.1 /usr/local/bin/node [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> Process ID 1 user/group 0/0; docker; platform linux/x64 #161-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 22 14:25:40 UTC 2025; locale (undefined) [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> Basedir /opt/reactor; data in /var/reactor/storage [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> NODE_PATH=/opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.865Z <app:null> Resolved timezone=America/New_York, environment TZ=America/New_York; offset minutes from UTC=-300 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.867Z <default:null> Module i18n v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.867Z <app:null> Configured locale (undefined); selected locale(s) en-US.UTF-8 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.879Z <app:null> Loaded locale en-US for en-US [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.879Z <app:null> Local date/time using configured timezone and locale formatting is "11/30/2025, 3:01:53 PM" [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.889Z <Structure:null> Module Structure v25326 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.890Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v24312 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.904Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.923Z <Timer:null> Module Timer v25279 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.924Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v25314 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.927Z <Entity:null> Module Entity v25251 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.929Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v25253 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.930Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v25318 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.937Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v25283 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.937Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.942Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v25258 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.953Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.956Z <Rule:null> Module Rule v25323 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.958Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v25292 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.959Z <Engine:null> Module Engine v25325 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.964Z <httpapi:null> Module httpapi v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.972Z <wsapi:null> Module wsapi v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.994Z <TaskQueue:null> Module TaskQueue 24138 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.994Z <VeraController:null> Module VeraController v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:54.179Z <HassController:null> Module HassController v25325 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.797Z <OWMWeatherController:null> Module OWMWeatherController v25268 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.800Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v25323 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.807Z <MQTTController:null> Module MQTTController v22092 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:20.630Z <OWMWeatherController:CRIT> FetchError: request to https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?lat=xxxxxxxxxx&lon=-xxxxxxxxx&appid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&units=standard&_r=1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxfailed, reason: [-] FetchError: request to https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?lat=xxxxxxxxxxx&lon=-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&appid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&units=standard&_r=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxfailed, reason: at ClientRequest.<anonymous> (/opt/reactor/node_modules/node-fetch/lib/index.js:1501:11) at ClientRequest.emit (node:events:508:28) at ClientRequest.emit (node:domain:489:12) at emitErrorEvent (node:_http_client:108:11) at TLSSocket.socketErrorListener (node:_http_client:575:5) at TLSSocket.emit (node:events:508:28) at TLSSocket.emit (node:domain:489:12) at emitErrorNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:170:8) at emitErrorCloseNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:129:3) at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:89:21
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Device log?
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@toggledbits is there a log that will show me what rule is turning on a specific device? I've got a switch that has been kicking on at 2200 ET for several nights now and the reactor.log doesn't have a thing in it that I can see on a device level (it being more rules-based).
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[Solved] Local expression in Rule does not evaluate as they used to do
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Notice to Docker + ARM Users (RPi 3/4/5 and others)
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This post does not apply to users of Intel/AMD-based systems. If you are using a Reactor image tagged latest-amd64 or stable-amd64, then this post does not apply to you. It also does not apply to bare-metal installs; it's for users of docker images on ARM-based systems only (principally Raspberry Pi hosts, but could be others). After January 15, 2026, I will no longer produce the aarch64-tagged docker image for Reactor. The ARM images will be arm64 for 64-bit operating systems, and armv7l for 32-bit operating systems. For those of you running a container from the aarch64 image today, this will be a relatively simple change: you just need to switch the image used for your docker container to a differently-tagged image. If you are using docker-compose, then this is a relatively simple matter of changing the image line in your docker-compose.yaml file and then stopping (docker-compose down) and restarting (docker-compose up -d) your Reactor daemon. But there's a catch... not all of you can safely just switch from the aarch64 image to the arm64 image. And, you can't just trust the output of uname -m, for example, because this exposes the CPU architecture, but not the word size of the OS running on that CPU. For Raspberry Pi systems, the transition to 64-bit operating systems was long (starting in 2016) and not always obvious — although there was a first "official" 64-bit OS for RPis in 2020, it did not become a default recommendation in the Raspberry Pi Imager until 2021, and then that was only the default for Pi 3/4 systems with >4GB RAM; it was 2022 before it was universally recommended for all 64-bit CPUs regardless of RAM size. Depending on when you first imaged your RPi system and what default you may have been offered/chosen, you could today easily have a 64-bit CPU Raspberry Pi running a 32-bit version of the operating system. Upgrades along the way would not change this; changing it to fully 64-bit requires a full reimage of the system. To establish if your OS is 64- or 32-bit, log in to your Pi and run: sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH. If the response is arm64 or aarch64, then you are running a 64-bit OS and you should use the arm64-tagged image. If it's anything else, you are running a 32-bit OS, and you should use the armv7l-tagged image. pi@rpi4-1:~ $ sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH armhf pi@rpi4-1:~ $ uname -m aarch64 pi@rpi4-1:~ $ In the example above, the uname command reports that the CPU is 64-bit architecture (aarch64), which is true for the host on which I ran these commands, but the DEB_HOST_ARCH value is armhf, indicating a 32-bit operating system. This system has to use the armv7l-tagged image. Other systems will have their own ways of determining the word size of the running OS. Since the majority of Reactor users running ARM systems are on Raspberry Pis, I am able to supply the above instructions, but if you happen to have a different ARM system, you'll need to do some web searching to figure out how to expose that information. Or, you can just try the arm64 image, and if it doesn't start up, try the armv7l image. Remember to always back up your system before making any changes. For everyone, please make this change as soon as possible, and if you have any trouble finding a working image, please (1) go back to the current aarch64 image; and (2) let me know in this thread along with as much detail about your host system as you can offer (including the output of the dpkg-architecture command mentioned above).
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Requesting a proper ARM64/aarch64 Docker image (Pi 5 support)
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Hi, I'm in the process of migrating from a Raspberry Pi 4 (ARMv7) to a Raspberry Pi 5 (ARMv8/aarch64), but I’ve run into an issue: there is no proper ARMv8/aarch64 image available. None of the existing images run on the Pi 5 - they all exit immediately with code 139 (segmentation fault), which typically indicates that the binaries inside the image are not compatible with the ARM64/aarch64 architecture used by the Pi 5. Would it be possible to publish a correct ARMv8/aarch64 (linux/arm64) image? Building one should be relatively straightforward using docker buildx with multi-arch support. For example, my own Node.js images are built this way: docker buildx build --push \ -t <localrepo>/<project>:<tag> \ --platform=linux/arm64,linux/amd64 \ --file ./apps/<project>/Dockerfile . This produces both the AMD64 and ARM64/v8 variants automatically. Also, as a side note, it may be best to avoid using Alpine as the base image for the ARM64 build, since musl-based builds often cause compatibility issues and unnecessary headaches. A glibc-based base image (e.g., Debian or Ubuntu) tends to work far more reliably on ARM64, especially for Node.js applications. @toggledbits - tagging you in case you missed this. Thanks, mgvra
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Script action and custom timers
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Sorry to write here without trying, but I’m flying today. Am I correct if i say that script action with alarm() makes it possible to execute a reaction in a given interval, lets say 15 seconds or 3.5 minutes? That sounds amazing, since I’ve used weird tricks, including a custom controller, just to do this.
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@toggledbits Do you know if this is related to that PR or is it a change they made in 2025.11.1? [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.319Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag with { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.320Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "10:45", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": (null) }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_dag" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984320<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "10:45" }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"10:45","datetime":null,"timestamp":null},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_dag"},"id":1762866984320} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 0 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 1 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt with { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "03:00", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": 0 }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_natt" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984323<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"03:00","datetime":null,"timestamp":0},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_natt"},"id":1762866984323} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 1 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 2 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> all actions completed.
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Reactor Version 25310 : Office Light control via rule in reactor no longer working since last update.
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Hello, I currently have an office light (connected via a Leviton Zwave Dimmer switch) controlled from a Gen5 Aeotech Zwave switch installed on my Synology 720+ NAS. I run HA(2025.11.10) in a virtual machine from my NAS and Reactor on the container manager of the same NAS. Prior to updating to 25304 the rule I had set to turn the light on to a specific dimming value worked correctly. Now the rule appears to follow the decision tree, however the reaction does not trigger setting the dimming or turning on the office light? Strangely I can still turn the light on and off as well as dim it directly from HASS..? I have tried using the ''try this action'' button in the rules reaction setting and it will not control the light and does not throw an error flagÉ Please help, P.S Reactor has been rock steady for me over the last few years and I'm a big fan of this solution.
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FWIW I'm no longer getting a notification from MSR that there's an update. Just thought I'd mention it C
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Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?

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    Good evening all,
    I've run across a quirk with my iBlinds motors in Home Assistant. Each iBlinds zwave motor has two controls that I can use. One is a switch, and one is a cover control.

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    The switch control is a binary on/off switch. On, the blind goes to the "open" position (v2 controllers, 50%, v3 controllers user definable parameter)

    If you click on the cover icon, it moves between two positions. Essentially, it's closed in both positions, just 180 degrees apart. The cover control does give you the granularity to move to any position between 0 and 100, which is sometimes useful, when you just don't want it open or closed, such as letting some light in, but closing it enough when the sun is shining directly into the window and blinding everyone.

    Here's the problem, which I've brought up with iBlinds support, and they're singing Simon and Garfunkel (Sound of Silence). The two controls don't update each other. If I open or close using the switch, the cover position value doesn't change. If I open or close using the cover control, the switch doesn't change to on or off. I've verified that this isn't just an issue with the dashboard/templates I'm using by going into the developer tools on HA and the values do not change. I've also checked those values in Reactor (Entities tab) and they do not update properly.

    I've come up with a Reactor work around which sort of forces the controls to update. If anyone knows of a better way, please tell me. I have two rules set up that monitor for changes in the switch state, that then performs a x_haas_cover.set_cover_position to either 0 or 50 for either to off or to on respectively.

    40b352f9-c599-4768-ac02-cd7bcb4b3b33-image.png

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    This is sort of a one way street at the moment. I don't have a reverse rule set up to change the switch value, but the current rule seems more of an issue.

    All that being said. I have 14 iBlinds motors in my home. That would mean 28 rules in Reactor. I know how to set up a Dynamic Group Control for Triggers. I put all 14 switches in the reactor.yaml file, and I can use those for triggers. How would I go about using 14 corresponding cover controls for the reactions?

    It may be a simple matter, but I'm not sure. One thing i can say is the name of the switch and cover entities are the same, except for the control type:

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    Edit:

    Running:
    Reactor: latest-23078-d592d400
    Home Assistant 2023.3.5
    Supervisor 2023.03.3
    Operating System 9.5
    Frontend 20230309.1 - latest

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      Good evening all,
      I've run across a quirk with my iBlinds motors in Home Assistant. Each iBlinds zwave motor has two controls that I can use. One is a switch, and one is a cover control.

      ee654e5d-d191-4082-a7f2-6b161923de75-image.png cid:A1190F3F-FB02-4332-93DE-9A15A490D9AB

      The switch control is a binary on/off switch. On, the blind goes to the "open" position (v2 controllers, 50%, v3 controllers user definable parameter)

      If you click on the cover icon, it moves between two positions. Essentially, it's closed in both positions, just 180 degrees apart. The cover control does give you the granularity to move to any position between 0 and 100, which is sometimes useful, when you just don't want it open or closed, such as letting some light in, but closing it enough when the sun is shining directly into the window and blinding everyone.

      Here's the problem, which I've brought up with iBlinds support, and they're singing Simon and Garfunkel (Sound of Silence). The two controls don't update each other. If I open or close using the switch, the cover position value doesn't change. If I open or close using the cover control, the switch doesn't change to on or off. I've verified that this isn't just an issue with the dashboard/templates I'm using by going into the developer tools on HA and the values do not change. I've also checked those values in Reactor (Entities tab) and they do not update properly.

      I've come up with a Reactor work around which sort of forces the controls to update. If anyone knows of a better way, please tell me. I have two rules set up that monitor for changes in the switch state, that then performs a x_haas_cover.set_cover_position to either 0 or 50 for either to off or to on respectively.

      40b352f9-c599-4768-ac02-cd7bcb4b3b33-image.png

      db1d73d4-1fc9-4785-a75a-068c42e63b48-image.png

      This is sort of a one way street at the moment. I don't have a reverse rule set up to change the switch value, but the current rule seems more of an issue.

      All that being said. I have 14 iBlinds motors in my home. That would mean 28 rules in Reactor. I know how to set up a Dynamic Group Control for Triggers. I put all 14 switches in the reactor.yaml file, and I can use those for triggers. How would I go about using 14 corresponding cover controls for the reactions?

      It may be a simple matter, but I'm not sure. One thing i can say is the name of the switch and cover entities are the same, except for the control type:

      0bbf3cb0-ab71-4c9c-b254-d3009f5b092c-image.png

      Edit:

      Running:
      Reactor: latest-23078-d592d400
      Home Assistant 2023.3.5
      Supervisor 2023.03.3
      Operating System 9.5
      Frontend 20230309.1 - latest

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      gwp1
      wrote on last edited by gwp1
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      @tamorgen So iBlinds are a funny beast. I'm running 11 of the v3's and my automations run the gamut from normal open/close to "tilt when the sun hits this side of the house", "tilt when I'm not home (for privacy)" - smashing the sun tilt together with the Away tilt... oh boy is that fun.

      I use a Zooz ZWave stick connected to Home Assistant to run them. They're happy together but I also do run a ping rule hourly lest they lose sight of the stick. Hubitat runs the rest of the house for now.

      To control them... oy. Here's a couple samples:

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      The .refresh keeps Home Assistant happy in keeping the two status' you have in your first screenshot in sync.

      I have fought long and hard over the past two years with many, many hours of trial and error with these and, even this morning, am still making adjustments. I am quite demanding of my automations with them, in all fairness to both the blinds themselves and MSR.

      ProTip: if you're controlling multiple iBlinds in one automation, a five or so second delay between each blind's actions will help a LOT. I believe I actually got that advice from iBlinds Support (when they answer).

      7026a0f9-0f6b-4079-9fdb-abadbd5efcf1-image.png

      Yes - you will have a LOT of iBlinds rules and reactions to truly control these bad boys. No - you will never get them all to open/close simultaneously. I've settled on a nice routine where they start their actions at the front of the house and end at the back, each performing it's task sequentially after the other. Not quite as cool but it's still ok.

      OH - I also do a weekly recalibration to keep the iBlinds "accurate" lest they drift a bit over time.

      b5bfdd40-e9f2-42a9-bbc4-5bf2dff2599f-image.png

      To your actual ask - I've installed the Dynamic Group Controller but not delved into it as yet. Hopefully the info above helps you as the iBlinds rabbithole can run deep and dark. MSR has been key in my ability to get the iBlinds to function the best of any integration I've tried.

      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.164
      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

      *HASS 2025.11.3
      w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
      FW: v1.1
      SDK: v7.23.1

      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
      MSR: latest-25328-b2ed1365
      MQTTController: 25139
      ZWave Controller: 25139

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        Note that @gwp1 is using ZWaveJSController to interface with iBlinds, not HassController. So this is more direct control that circumvents HA's interpretation.

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          @tamorgen So iBlinds are a funny beast. I'm running 11 of the v3's and my automations run the gamut from normal open/close to "tilt when the sun hits this side of the house", "tilt when I'm not home (for privacy)" - smashing the sun tilt together with the Away tilt... oh boy is that fun.

          I use a Zooz ZWave stick connected to Home Assistant to run them. They're happy together but I also do run a ping rule hourly lest they lose sight of the stick. Hubitat runs the rest of the house for now.

          To control them... oy. Here's a couple samples:

          712eb195-c519-4ab8-a0a0-c69b94799ce7-image.png 4ff3ac12-a730-4523-bc55-e608986ac558-image.png 93a24f54-c75a-456b-a668-0477c8d75642-image.png

          The .refresh keeps Home Assistant happy in keeping the two status' you have in your first screenshot in sync.

          I have fought long and hard over the past two years with many, many hours of trial and error with these and, even this morning, am still making adjustments. I am quite demanding of my automations with them, in all fairness to both the blinds themselves and MSR.

          ProTip: if you're controlling multiple iBlinds in one automation, a five or so second delay between each blind's actions will help a LOT. I believe I actually got that advice from iBlinds Support (when they answer).

          7026a0f9-0f6b-4079-9fdb-abadbd5efcf1-image.png

          Yes - you will have a LOT of iBlinds rules and reactions to truly control these bad boys. No - you will never get them all to open/close simultaneously. I've settled on a nice routine where they start their actions at the front of the house and end at the back, each performing it's task sequentially after the other. Not quite as cool but it's still ok.

          OH - I also do a weekly recalibration to keep the iBlinds "accurate" lest they drift a bit over time.

          b5bfdd40-e9f2-42a9-bbc4-5bf2dff2599f-image.png

          To your actual ask - I've installed the Dynamic Group Controller but not delved into it as yet. Hopefully the info above helps you as the iBlinds rabbithole can run deep and dark. MSR has been key in my ability to get the iBlinds to function the best of any integration I've tried.

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          @gwp1 Yes, forgot that part, thank you @toggledbits.

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          *HASS 2025.11.3
          w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
          FW: v1.1
          SDK: v7.23.1

          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
          MSR: latest-25328-b2ed1365
          MQTTController: 25139
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            @tamorgen So iBlinds are a funny beast. I'm running 11 of the v3's and my automations run the gamut from normal open/close to "tilt when the sun hits this side of the house", "tilt when I'm not home (for privacy)" - smashing the sun tilt together with the Away tilt... oh boy is that fun.

            I use a Zooz ZWave stick connected to Home Assistant to run them. They're happy together but I also do run a ping rule hourly lest they lose sight of the stick. Hubitat runs the rest of the house for now.

            To control them... oy. Here's a couple samples:

            712eb195-c519-4ab8-a0a0-c69b94799ce7-image.png 4ff3ac12-a730-4523-bc55-e608986ac558-image.png 93a24f54-c75a-456b-a668-0477c8d75642-image.png

            The .refresh keeps Home Assistant happy in keeping the two status' you have in your first screenshot in sync.

            I have fought long and hard over the past two years with many, many hours of trial and error with these and, even this morning, am still making adjustments. I am quite demanding of my automations with them, in all fairness to both the blinds themselves and MSR.

            ProTip: if you're controlling multiple iBlinds in one automation, a five or so second delay between each blind's actions will help a LOT. I believe I actually got that advice from iBlinds Support (when they answer).

            7026a0f9-0f6b-4079-9fdb-abadbd5efcf1-image.png

            Yes - you will have a LOT of iBlinds rules and reactions to truly control these bad boys. No - you will never get them all to open/close simultaneously. I've settled on a nice routine where they start their actions at the front of the house and end at the back, each performing it's task sequentially after the other. Not quite as cool but it's still ok.

            OH - I also do a weekly recalibration to keep the iBlinds "accurate" lest they drift a bit over time.

            b5bfdd40-e9f2-42a9-bbc4-5bf2dff2599f-image.png

            To your actual ask - I've installed the Dynamic Group Controller but not delved into it as yet. Hopefully the info above helps you as the iBlinds rabbithole can run deep and dark. MSR has been key in my ability to get the iBlinds to function the best of any integration I've tried.

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            @gwp1 said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

            @tamorgen So iBlinds are a funny beast. I'm running 11 of the v3's and my automations run the gamut from normal open/close to "tilt when the sun hits this side of the house", "tilt when I'm not home (for privacy)" - smashing the sun tilt together with the Away tilt... oh boy is that fun.

            I use a Zooz ZWave stick connected to Home Assistant to run them. They're happy together but I also do run a ping rule hourly lest they lose sight of the stick. Hubitat runs the rest of the house for now.

            To control them... oy. Here's a couple samples:

            712eb195-c519-4ab8-a0a0-c69b94799ce7-image.png 4ff3ac12-a730-4523-bc55-e608986ac558-image.png 93a24f54-c75a-456b-a668-0477c8d75642-image.png

            The .refresh keeps Home Assistant happy in keeping the two status' you have in your first screenshot in sync.

            I have fought long and hard over the past two years with many, many hours of trial and error with these and, even this morning, am still making adjustments. I am quite demanding of my automations with them, in all fairness to both the blinds themselves and MSR.

            ProTip: if you're controlling multiple iBlinds in one automation, a five or so second delay between each blind's actions will help a LOT. I believe I actually got that advice from iBlinds Support (when they answer).

            7026a0f9-0f6b-4079-9fdb-abadbd5efcf1-image.png

            Yes - you will have a LOT of iBlinds rules and reactions to truly control these bad boys. No - you will never get them all to open/close simultaneously. I've settled on a nice routine where they start their actions at the front of the house and end at the back, each performing it's task sequentially after the other. Not quite as cool but it's still ok.

            OH - I also do a weekly recalibration to keep the iBlinds "accurate" lest they drift a bit over time.

            b5bfdd40-e9f2-42a9-bbc4-5bf2dff2599f-image.png

            To your actual ask - I've installed the Dynamic Group Controller but not delved into it as yet. Hopefully the info above helps you as the iBlinds rabbithole can run deep and dark. MSR has been key in my ability to get the iBlinds to function the best of any integration I've tried.

            I've been running 14 iBlinds v2 since 2019, and I just replaced 2 of them with v3.1. I've always had issues with the units responding consistently. The answers I've gotten from their support is "try repairing it closer", or you need to have beaming repeaters. I have 75 Z-wave devices in my house, and every single device that is hard wired is beaming. I think they just have a script that assumes it's the users fault, and they really aren't interested in helping.

            I could set up a ping hourly, and that may help with connectivity. I don't run them all at once. I have Reactor set to "wait for completion" on each of the reactions before moving on to the next one.

            None of this unfortunately addresses the issue of the switch control and the cover control not being in sync. I don't seem to have a .refresh command in HA, or at least I'm not sure where it is. If that syncs them up, then I'll be happy. Where is that refresh command located?

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              @tamorgen That sounds vaguely familiar!

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              @gwp1 said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

              @tamorgen That sounds vaguely familiar!

              Low and behold iBlinds support finally got back with me, and they actually acknowledged the original problem I was seeing was actually a problem.

              Hi Timothy,
              
              Very sorry for the delayed response, we have been getting more reports of this issue and have been building up to a solution. We have determined this to be a driver issue within Home Assistant that will need to be addressed for each hub. 
              We have never really sent battery report until battery level drops to the low battery alert threshold and this feature is required by zwave certification.  We always had the hub poll the battery level since some hubs opted for polling the device independently of the device sending a report. ​We will need to add polling to the HA driver and other drivers of the same issue. 
              
              Thank you for your patience.
              
              Thanks,
              Chance H.
              The iBlinds Team
              

              and

              Hi Timothy,
              
              To add to this, the polling will update the position as well as the battery to address your issue specifically.
              
              Thanks,
              Chance H.
              The iBlinds Team
              

              Feeling some vindication, after their original emails were all to the tone of "you're doing it wrong, you need to exclude and pair your devices. You need beaming repeaters (I guess the 55 other devices that aren't battery powered and are beaming don't count)."

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                I've split this topic. This thread remains for discussion specific to iBlinds only; if you have further comments on your issue getting ZWaveJSController running, please make those in the new thread where that specific discussion takes place.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  I've split this topic. This thread remains for discussion specific to iBlinds only; if you have further comments on your issue getting ZWaveJSController running, please make those in the new thread where that specific discussion takes place.

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                  @toggledbits said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                  I've split this topic. This thread remains for discussion specific to iBlinds only; if you have further comments on your issue getting ZWaveJSController running, please make those in the new thread where that specific discussion takes place.

                  Thanks Patrick, that's fine. I knew it was going off on a bit of a tangent and asked you to fork it a bit ago. 🙂

                  Back to the original subject, now that I'm have ZWaveJSController working and I can use the refresh command, I still want to set up a rule based upon a state changing to poll the entity and force that refresh.

                  I set up the Dynamic Groups in my reactor.yaml using the zwavejs entities. I have three ones set up. One for the switch state, one for the position state, and one for the cover state. This way, I can run refresh if anyone of them changes. If there is a better way, please let me know.

                          "iblinds_switch":
                            select:
                              - include_entity:
                                - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>62-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>64-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>65-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>79-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>77-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>78-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>206-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>205-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>75-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>74-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>71-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>16-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                            filter_expression: >
                              entity.power_switch.state
                  
                          "iblinds_position":
                            select:
                              - include_entity:
                                - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>62-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>64-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>65-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>79-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>77-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>78-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>206-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>205-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>75-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>74-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>71-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>16-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                            filter_expression: >
                              entity.cover.position.value
                  
                  
                          "iblinds_cover":
                            select:
                              - include_entity:
                                - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>62-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>64-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>65-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>79-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>77-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>78-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>206-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>205-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>75-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>74-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>71-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>16-0'
                                - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                            filter_expression: >
                              entity.cover.state
                  

                  The rule I'm trying to set up is to look for any change on those switches (on to off or off to on), and then set a reaction to refresh the cover (zwave_device.refresh)

                  ba75100c-4bbb-45d1-a5af-44ca6c854fa9-image.png

                  In the set reaction, it doesn't appear to let my dig down any further once I put the group in. What do I need to do to make this work, if it's even possible.

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                    @toggledbits said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                    I've split this topic. This thread remains for discussion specific to iBlinds only; if you have further comments on your issue getting ZWaveJSController running, please make those in the new thread where that specific discussion takes place.

                    Thanks Patrick, that's fine. I knew it was going off on a bit of a tangent and asked you to fork it a bit ago. 🙂

                    Back to the original subject, now that I'm have ZWaveJSController working and I can use the refresh command, I still want to set up a rule based upon a state changing to poll the entity and force that refresh.

                    I set up the Dynamic Groups in my reactor.yaml using the zwavejs entities. I have three ones set up. One for the switch state, one for the position state, and one for the cover state. This way, I can run refresh if anyone of them changes. If there is a better way, please let me know.

                            "iblinds_switch":
                              select:
                                - include_entity:
                                  - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>62-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>64-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>65-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>79-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>77-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>78-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>206-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>205-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>75-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>74-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>71-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>16-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                              filter_expression: >
                                entity.power_switch.state
                    
                            "iblinds_position":
                              select:
                                - include_entity:
                                  - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>62-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>64-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>65-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>79-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>77-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>78-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>206-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>205-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>75-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>74-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>71-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>16-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                              filter_expression: >
                                entity.cover.position.value
                    
                    
                            "iblinds_cover":
                              select:
                                - include_entity:
                                  - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>62-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>64-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>65-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>79-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>77-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>78-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>206-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>205-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>75-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>74-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>71-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>16-0'
                                  - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                              filter_expression: >
                                entity.cover.state
                    

                    The rule I'm trying to set up is to look for any change on those switches (on to off or off to on), and then set a reaction to refresh the cover (zwave_device.refresh)

                    ba75100c-4bbb-45d1-a5af-44ca6c854fa9-image.png

                    In the set reaction, it doesn't appear to let my dig down any further once I put the group in. What do I need to do to make this work, if it's even possible.

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                    @tamorgen said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                    In the set reaction, it doesn't appear to let my dig down any further once I put the group in. What do I need to do to make this work, if it's even possible.

                    Experimental, undocumented feature: add group_actions: true to your group's configuration:

                        "iblinds_switch":
                          select:
                            - include_entity:
                              - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                ...
                              - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                          filter_expression: "entity.power_switch.state"
                          group_actions: true
                    

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                      @tamorgen said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                      In the set reaction, it doesn't appear to let my dig down any further once I put the group in. What do I need to do to make this work, if it's even possible.

                      Experimental, undocumented feature: add group_actions: true to your group's configuration:

                          "iblinds_switch":
                            select:
                              - include_entity:
                                - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                  ...
                                - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                            filter_expression: "entity.power_switch.state"
                            group_actions: true
                      
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                      @toggledbits said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                      @tamorgen said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                      In the set reaction, it doesn't appear to let my dig down any further once I put the group in. What do I need to do to make this work, if it's even possible.

                      Experimental, undocumented feature: add group_actions: true to your group's configuration:

                          "iblinds_switch":
                            select:
                              - include_entity:
                                - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                  ...
                                - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                            filter_expression: "entity.power_switch.state"
                            group_actions: true
                      

                      Thanks Patrick. I'll give that a try.

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                        @tamorgen said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                        In the set reaction, it doesn't appear to let my dig down any further once I put the group in. What do I need to do to make this work, if it's even possible.

                        Experimental, undocumented feature: add group_actions: true to your group's configuration:

                            "iblinds_switch":
                              select:
                                - include_entity:
                                  - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                    ...
                                  - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                              filter_expression: "entity.power_switch.state"
                              group_actions: true
                        
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                        @toggledbits said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                        @tamorgen said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                        In the set reaction, it doesn't appear to let my dig down any further once I put the group in. What do I need to do to make this work, if it's even possible.

                        Experimental, undocumented feature: add group_actions: true to your group's configuration:

                            "iblinds_switch":
                              select:
                                - include_entity:
                                  - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                    ...
                                  - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                              filter_expression: "entity.power_switch.state"
                              group_actions: true
                        

                        You said it was unsupported 🙂

                        Reactor doesn't seem to like my filter.

                        [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:19:59.724Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Light#zwavejs>63-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                        

                        These are the values when I look at the Entities tab for one of the blind controllers.

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                          Well that has nothing to do with group actions. It's specifically complaining about your filter. Hass is famous for giving null state when a device is unreachable or still initializing. If the DGC comes up faster than Hass, you get those messages. They usually don't stick.

                          And please remember the posting guidelines. When posting an error, don't just post the error message; you need to post several dozen lines from before it, for context.

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                            Well that has nothing to do with group actions. It's specifically complaining about your filter. Hass is famous for giving null state when a device is unreachable or still initializing. If the DGC comes up faster than Hass, you get those messages. They usually don't stick.

                            And please remember the posting guidelines. When posting an error, don't just post the error message; you need to post several dozen lines from before it, for context.

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                            @toggledbits said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                            Well that has nothing to do with group actions. It's specifically complaining about your filter. Hass is famous for giving null state when a device is unreachable or still initializing. If the DGC comes up faster than Hass, you get those messages. They usually don't stick.

                            And please remember the posting guidelines. When posting an error, don't just post the error message; you need to post several dozen lines from before it, for context.

                            Understood, however, the system has been back up for white a while, and it just keeps repeating those errors. The lines I'm seeing before are unrelated and appear to be just normal reactions in my system.

                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.461Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>63-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>62-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>64-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>65-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>79-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>77-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>78-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Cover#zwavejs>206-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Cover#zwavejs>205-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>75-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>74-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>71-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>16-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>61-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                            
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                              @toggledbits said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                              Well that has nothing to do with group actions. It's specifically complaining about your filter. Hass is famous for giving null state when a device is unreachable or still initializing. If the DGC comes up faster than Hass, you get those messages. They usually don't stick.

                              And please remember the posting guidelines. When posting an error, don't just post the error message; you need to post several dozen lines from before it, for context.

                              Understood, however, the system has been back up for white a while, and it just keeps repeating those errors. The lines I'm seeing before are unrelated and appear to be just normal reactions in my system.

                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.461Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>63-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>62-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>64-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>65-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>79-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>77-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>78-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.462Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Cover#zwavejs>206-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Cover#zwavejs>205-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>75-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>74-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>71-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>16-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T18:44:11.463Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.cover.state error with Light#zwavejs>61-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              
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                              @toggledbits

                              I restarted Reactor to see if I could see anything coming back up.

                              latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:05.925Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 stopping DynamicGroupController#groups
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:05.926Z <DynamicGroupController:null> DynamicGroupController#groups stopping
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:05.926Z <Controller:NOTICE> DynamicGroupController#groups stopping
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:05.927Z <Controller:ERR> Controller DynamicGroupController#groups is off-line!
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:09.706Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 loading controller interface groups (DynamicGroupController)
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:09.710Z <DynamicGroupController:null> Module DynamicGroupController v22313
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:09.746Z <Structure:INFO> Starting controller DynamicGroupController#groups
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:09.750Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller DynamicGroupController#groups is now online.
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.711Z <DynamicGroupController:INFO> All controllers ready, setting up dynamic groups
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.728Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Light#zwavejs>63-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.728Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Light#zwavejs>62-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.728Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Light#zwavejs>64-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.728Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Light#zwavejs>65-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.728Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Light#zwavejs>79-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.729Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Light#zwavejs>77-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.729Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Light#zwavejs>78-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.729Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Cover#zwavejs>206-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              [latest-23078]2023-04-03T19:06:14.729Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.power_switch.state error with Cover#zwavejs>205-0: [ReferenceError] Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null [-]
                              
                              
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                                OK. Two things:

                                1. When I made the example for group_actions above, I abbreviated the select and filter expressions, which I didn't expect you to copy verbatim; I just put it there for alignment/indenting. Use the select and filter expressions you had previously.

                                2. Update to the 23093 version of ZWaveJSController I just released, which fixes another small iBlinds issue.

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                                  OK. Two things:

                                  1. When I made the example for group_actions above, I abbreviated the select and filter expressions, which I didn't expect you to copy verbatim; I just put it there for alignment/indenting. Use the select and filter expressions you had previously.

                                  2. Update to the 23093 version of ZWaveJSController I just released, which fixes another small iBlinds issue.

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                                  @toggledbits said in Can I use Dynamic Group Control for Triggers and Reactions?:

                                  OK. Two things:

                                  1. When I made the example for group_actions above, I abbreviated the select and filter expressions, which I didn't expect you to copy verbatim; I just put it there for alignment/indenting. Use the select and filter expressions you had previously.

                                  2. Update to the 23093 version of ZWaveJSController I just released, which fixes another small iBlinds issue.

                                  Thanks. I thought the filter expressions format had changed for with the group_actions flag, so I changed it to your example.

                                  I also updated to the latest ZWaveJSController.

                                  I still eppar to be getting those same errors, even with changing back to:

                                      "iblinds_switch":
                                                  select:
                                                    - include_entity:
                                                      - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>62-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>64-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>65-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>79-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>77-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>78-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>206-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>205-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>75-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>74-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>71-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>16-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                                                  filter_expression: >
                                                    entity.power_switch.state
                                                  group_actions: true
                                                "iblinds_position":
                                                  select:
                                                    - include_entity:
                                                      - 'zwavejs>63-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>62-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>64-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>65-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>79-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>77-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>78-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>206-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>205-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>75-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>74-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>71-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>16-0'
                                                      - 'zwavejs>61-0'
                                                  filter_expression: >
                                                    entity.cover.position.value
                                                  group_actions: true
                                  
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                                    entity.attributes.power_switch.state and the same change for the others, like you had originally.

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                                      entity.attributes.power_switch.state and the same change for the others, like you had originally.

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                                      @toggledbits
                                      Thanks, that did the trick. Do I need to use the local expressions when using this approach? I'm guessing no.

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                                        That would depend on what you're using them for. The only one I see above is to make a list of entity names from a group's members, presumably to use it in a message or something else not yet completed?

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