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Possible mismatch between binary_sensor in HA and MSR
CatmanV2C
Hi. First off this is an unsupported version of HS 2026.5.2 so happy to be told it's that. Currently running latest-26130-3d2a489a on a Debian Buster bare metal VM. I've been working on moving away from OpenLuup completely and up until now have been using some virtual switches t manage things like 'Is there anyone home' I have a binary sensor in HA that provides the same thing binary_sensor.someone_home which appears in MSR as hass>binary_sensor_someone_home HA shows on or off. MSR shows true or false All fine. The odd thing happened after an update of HA and a restart. From HA 13:07:04 it turned off 13:07:11 it turned on However that does not appear to have been reflected in MSR which turned all the heating and so on off as it is supposed to do, and I got all my notifications as I should. Here's a huge log section (sorry) as I wanted to show how MSR identifies that HA is up and running at 12:07:08 (Zulu) but triggers the 'There's no one here' at 12:07:17 some 6 seconds after HA updated to on. Checking in the interface MSR said the status was 'False' while HA stated 'On' rule-mkwk2fwa.dval:[{"id":1,"container":2,"value":3,"serial":92,"tss":93,"tsc":93},"rule-mkwk2fwa","rules",{"id":1,"serial":4,"triggers":5,"constraints":21,"expressions":24,"name":25,"react_set":26,"react_reset":88,"ruleset":91},16,{"type":6,"id":7,"op":8,"conditions":9,"editor_version":20},"group","trig","and",[10],{"id":11,"type":12,"data":13},"condmkwk2fwa","entity",{"entity":14,"attribute":15,"op":16,"value":17},"hass>person_rachel_matthews","x_hass.state","change",[18,19],null,"not_home",25351,{"type":6,"id":22,"op":8,"conditions":23},"cons",[],{},"Rachel is on the move",{"id":27,"actions":28,"rule":1,"editor_version":87,"set":61},"rule-mkwk2fwa:S",[29,35,62,83],{"id":30,"type":31,"data":32},"24kv27go","setvar",{"var":33,"value":34},"g_CurrentHour","${{int(strftime(\"%H\", 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\"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}"}}}],"constraints":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv7qgg-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kv89zv","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Should speak only when I'm home"}},{"id":"cond24kv7qgh","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":true}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv2lon","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"28xz6paf","type":"notify","data":{"method":"Telegram","message":"Rachel has left the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone and is in transit","profile":"default"}}],"constraints":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv2lon-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kvlpae","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Should telegram while I am away"}},{"id":"cond24kvkyz7","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":false}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"24kv7hvk","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Enter comment text"}}],"rule":"rule-mkwk2fwa","editor_version":25314,"set":true},"react_reset":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:R","actions":[],"rule":"rule-mkwk2fwa","set":false},"ruleset":"rs-l5sdq41x"},"serial":2,"tss":1779017869959,"tsc":1779017869959} 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time()))}}",{"id":40,"type":6,"actions":41,"constraints":50},"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohv",[42],{"id":43,"type":12,"data":44},"24kvbohw",{"entity":45,"action":46,"args":47},"hass>system","x_hass_system.call_service",{"service":48,"data":49},"notify.alexa_media","{\n\"message\":\"Good ${{g_Greeting}} Chris. , Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.\",\n\"data\":{\"type\":\"announce\", \"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}",{"id":51,"name":52,"type":6,"op":8,"conditions":53,"editor_version":19},"24kvbohv-cons","Group Constraints Copy",[54,59],{"id":55,"type":56,"data":57},"cond24kv89zv","comment",{"comment":58},"Should speak only when I'm home",{"id":60,"type":12,"data":61},"cond24kv7qgh",{"entity":62,"attribute":63,"op":64,"value":65},"mqqt>catman_iphone","binary_sensor.state","=",true,{"id":67,"type":6,"actions":68,"constraints":76},"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohx",[69],{"id":70,"type":71,"data":72},"24kvbohy","notify",{"method":73,"message":74,"profile":75},"Telegram","Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.","default",{"id":77,"name":52,"type":6,"op":8,"conditions":78,"editor_version":19},"24kvbohx-cons",[79],{"id":80,"type":12,"data":81},"cond24kvmzfp",{"entity":62,"attribute":63,"op":64,"value":82},false,{"id":84,"type":56,"data":85},"24kvbohz",{"comment":86},"Enter comment text",25314,{"id":89,"actions":90,"rule":1,"set":82},"rule-mkwlg11o:R",[],"rs-l5sdq41x",1,1770023368433] rule-mkwlg11o.json:{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o","container":"rules","value":{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o","serial":5,"triggers":{"type":"group","id":"trig","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"condmkwk2fwa","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"hass>person_rachel_matthews","attribute":"x_hass.state","op":"change","value":["not_home"]}}],"editor_version":25351},"constraints":{"type":"group","id":"cons","op":"and","conditions":[]},"expressions":{},"name":"Rachel has arrived","react_set":{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:S","actions":[{"id":"24kvboht","type":"script","data":{"expr":"g_rachel_last_area = getEntity(\"hass>person_rachel_matthews\").attributes['x_hass'].state"}},{"id":"24kvbohu","type":"setvar","data":{"var":"g_CurrentHour","value":"${{int(strftime(\"%H\", time()))}}"}},{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohv","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"24kvbohw","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"hass>system","action":"x_hass_system.call_service","args":{"service":"notify.alexa_media","data":"{\n\"message\":\"Good ${{g_Greeting}} Chris. , Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.\",\n\"data\":{\"type\":\"announce\", \"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}"}}}],"constraints":{"id":"24kvbohv-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kv89zv","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Should speak only when I'm home"}},{"id":"cond24kv7qgh","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":true}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohx","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"24kvbohy","type":"notify","data":{"method":"Telegram","message":"Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.","profile":"default"}}],"constraints":{"id":"24kvbohx-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kvmzfp","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":false}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"24kvbohz","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Enter comment text"}}],"rule":"rule-mkwlg11o","editor_version":25314,"set":true},"react_reset":{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:R","actions":[],"rule":"rule-mkwlg11o","set":false},"ruleset":"rs-l5sdq41x"},"serial":1,"tss":1770023368433,"tsc":1770023368433} catman@openluup:~/reactor/storage/rules$ exit logout Connection to 192.168.70.249 closed. catman@ChrisMBP2021 ~ % ./NotVera ** WARNING: connection is not using a post-quantum key exchange algorithm. ** This session may be vulnerable to "store now, decrypt later" attacks. ** The server may need to be upgraded. See https://openssh.com/pq.html Linux openluup 4.19.0-20-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.235-1 (2022-03-17) x86_64 The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Mon May 18 12:13:38 2026 from 192.168.70.69 cdcatman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/lo locales/ logs/ catman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/logs/ catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ ls console.log hass_config.json hass_services-2025-11-1.json hass_services-2026-1-0.json hass_services-2026-5-2.json reactor.log reactor.log.4 vera-user_data-initial.json device_32 hass_device_registry.json hass_services-2025-11-2.json hass_services-2026-1-1.json hass_services.json reactor.log.1 reactor.log.5 e hass_entity_registry.json hass_services-2025-11-3.json hass_services-2026-4-2.json hass_sources.json reactor.log.2 unhandled.json hass_area_registry.json hass_integrations.json hass_services-2025-7-2.json hass_services-2026-4-4.json hass_states.json reactor.log.3 vera-status-initial.json catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ tail reactor.log [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:20:08.296Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:03.391Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.729Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.734Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"] [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:03.501Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.614Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.624Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"] [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:03.590Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.503Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.506Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"] catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.946Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9yjy9z/trig [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.947Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET' [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.961Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9ylxw3/trig [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.962Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET' [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.995Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l680lif2:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.996Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "House Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l5sdqazh:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET>" (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET>" (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.998Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET>" (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with { } by reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with { } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass service homeassistant.turn_off target data is { } (empty), assuming default entity target [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { }, "domain": "homeassistant", "service": "turn_off", "target": { "entity_id": "input_boolean.heating_mode" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.017Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction House Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l5sdqazh:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.018Z <Engine:INFO> House Mode is Home<RESET> all actions completed. [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.074Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.077Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.090Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.091Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.094Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.111Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.113Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-l5sdqazh reaction rule-l5sdqazh:R completed This is hardly the end of the world as HA restarting is rare and I simply hit refresh on the entity in MSR but is this some kind of race condition or something that needs addressing? Hoping I've given enough data to make it sensible C
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    @toggledbits is there a log that will show me what rule is turning on a specific device?

    I've got a switch that has been kicking on at 2200 ET for several nights now and the reactor.log doesn't have a thing in it that I can see on a device level (it being more rules-based).

    *Hubitat C-7 2.5.0.135
    *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

    *HAOS
    Core 2026.5.0
    w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
    FW: v1.1
    SDK: v7.23.1

    *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
    MSR: latest-26127-726206dd
    MQTTController: 25139
    ZWave Controller: 25139

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      #2

      You list Hubitat and HASS as hubs, and the default logging for both of these hubs should tell you what you need to know. I've tried to keep these messages fairly consistent across the controllers, generally in this form:

      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:08.121Z <xxx:INFO> xxx#house perform power_switch.set on Switch#house>device_396 with { "state": false }
      

      Search using the canonical entity ID. There are several capabilities that can turn a light on, so searching by capability is harder. The idea is to find a perform ??? on ??? with ??? at the right time with the right entity ID.

      From there, start looking backwards for a message like either one of these:

      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:00.100Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Parking Area Light Off (re-lk5lrx5a)
      
          or 
      
      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:08.121Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Parking Area Light Off (re-lk5lrx5a) from step 3
      

      If this line is within just a couple of lines, maybe even directly before, the perform log entry you found above, then that's the name of the Reaction that manipulated the device. If that has :S or :R at the end of its ID and the tag <SET> or <RESET> appended to the Reaction name, the Reaction is part of a Rule with that ID and name, and that is the rule that is manipulating the entity — you're done!

      If the Reaction ID doesn't have the :S or :R suffix, then the Reaction is not rule-based (e.g. it's a global reaction), and you need to find what launched it.

      If the line you've found is of the form Resuming "<reaction name>" (reaction id)" from step n, then keep looking backwards. You may find more Resuming lines for other steps of the same reaction, but your goal now is to find the line that looks like Starting "<reaction name>" (reaction id).

      Once you are on the Starting "<reaction name>" (reaction id) line, you should not have to look very far to find an Enqueuing "<reaction name>" (reaction id) line.

      Once you are on the Enqueueing line, you should not have to look very far to find another Resuming or Starting reaction line. This line may have the :S and :R on the reaction ID that you are looking for to indicate the rule that launched the reaction. If it doesn't, then the reaction was launched by another reaction, and you just repeat the above process looking for what started this reaction. This path will eventually lead to the responsible rule.

      Live example from my host this morning. The perform action we found above is for an outdoor flood light that lights a parking pad at my house. It got turned off. By what, though? Well, we already established that is was by a reaction called Parking Area Light Off because we found a Resuming line for that reaction right before the perform line for the entity. Let's keep digging to find the responsible rule. Here's are some more relevant lines from my log:

      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:00.067Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Morning Lighting Off<SET>" (rule-knjifbn1:S)
      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:00.078Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Morning Lighting Off<SET> (rule-knjifbn1:S)
      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:00.078Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Outdoor All Off" (re-kl73syb6)
      .
      .
      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:00.088Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Outdoor All Off (re-kl73syb6)
      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:00.089Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Parking Area Light Off" (re-lk5lrx5a)
      .
      .
      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:00.100Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Parking Area Light Off (re-lk5lrx5a)
      .
      .
      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:00.118Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Parking Area Light Off (re-lk5lrx5a) from step 2
      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:00.119Z <Engine:NOTICE> Parking Area Light Off delaying until 1764074708119<11/25/2025, 7:45:08 AM>
      .
      .
      [...]2025-11-25T12:45:08.121Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Parking Area Light Off (re-lk5lrx5a) from step 3
      

      Working backwards from the last line, which is the Resuming line that we found earlier (reaction step 3), we find a Resuming line for the previous step (2) of that same reaction at 12:45:00.118. Notice also that reaction had a delay at that step that was logged immediately after, which accounts for the time gap between reaction steps 2 and 3.

      Keep working backwards to 12:45:00.100 and we find the Starting line for that Parking Area Light Off reaction. And continuing to look backwards for that same reaction ID, we eventually find the Enqueueing line for it (12:45:00.089). Usually these two lines are pretty close together, but it's not usual to have other things logged between.

      Now just looking backward line by line (not searching for any ID here), we soon find a Starting reaction Outdoor All Off line (12:45:00.088) very close to our Enqueueing line, indicating that Outdoor All Off launched the Parking Area Light Off reaction.

      Now we just repeat this process with Outdoor All Off — find it enqueued at 12:45:00.078 by Morning Light Off<SET> also at 12:45:00.078. The <SET> on the name and :S on the ID means it's a rule reaction, so Morning Light Off is the rule that triggered and started the sequence of two other reactions that eventually turned off the light.

      So to recap:

      1. Find the perform line (search using entity ID) that occurs at about the right time.
      2. Look backwards a short distance and you will find either a Starting <reaction> or Resuming <reaction> line. If that's a rule's SET or RESET reaction, you've found the responsible rule. Otherwise, a global reaction manipulated the entity/device, so proceed to the next step.
      3. Find what launched the current reaction. Keep looking backward until you find the Enqueueing line for it. Then very shortly preceding it, you should find a Starting <reaction> or Resuming <reaction> line for a different reaction. That's what started the current reaction. If this new reaction is a rule's SET or RESET reaction, you've found the responsible rule. Otherwise, find what launched this new (global) reaction by repeating this step.

      NOTE: Almost all actions in Reactor are asynchronous, meaning the Engine launches them in a separate process and the Engine can move on to working on a different reaction if multiple are running concurrently. Some in particular can take a lot of time (like HTTP Request). Depending on how busy your system is in that moment, all of these lines can be separated by other lines for other things going on, and you have to be careful and patient sifting through them.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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