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[Solved] Local expression in Rule does not evaluate as they used to do
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Home Assistant 2025.11.2 and latest-25315
CrilleC
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Notice to Docker + ARM Users (RPi 3/4/5 and others)
toggledbitsT
This post does not apply to users of Intel/AMD-based systems. If you are using a Reactor image tagged latest-amd64 or stable-amd64, then this post does not apply to you. It also does not apply to bare-metal installs; it's for users of docker images on ARM-based systems only (principally Raspberry Pi hosts, but could be others). After January 15, 2026, I will no longer produce the aarch64-tagged docker image for Reactor. The ARM images will be arm64 for 64-bit operating systems, and armv7l for 32-bit operating systems. For those of you running a container from the aarch64 image today, this will be a relatively simple change: you just need to switch the image used for your docker container to a differently-tagged image. If you are using docker-compose, then this is a relatively simple matter of changing the image line in your docker-compose.yaml file and then stopping (docker-compose down) and restarting (docker-compose up -d) your Reactor daemon. But there's a catch... not all of you can safely just switch from the aarch64 image to the arm64 image. And, you can't just trust the output of uname -m, for example, because this exposes the CPU architecture, but not the word size of the OS running on that CPU. For Raspberry Pi systems, the transition to 64-bit operating systems was long (starting in 2016) and not always obvious — although there was a first "official" 64-bit OS for RPis in 2020, it did not become a default recommendation in the Raspberry Pi Imager until 2021, and then that was only the default for Pi 3/4 systems with >4GB RAM; it was 2022 before it was universally recommended for all 64-bit CPUs regardless of RAM size. Depending on when you first imaged your RPi system and what default you may have been offered/chosen, you could today easily have a 64-bit CPU Raspberry Pi running a 32-bit version of the operating system. Upgrades along the way would not change this; changing it to fully 64-bit requires a full reimage of the system. To establish if your OS is 64- or 32-bit, log in to your Pi and run: sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH. If the response is arm64 or aarch64, then you are running a 64-bit OS and you should use the arm64-tagged image. If it's anything else, you are running a 32-bit OS, and you should use the armv7l-tagged image. pi@rpi4-1:~ $ sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH armhf pi@rpi4-1:~ $ uname -m aarch64 pi@rpi4-1:~ $ In the example above, the uname command reports that the CPU is 64-bit architecture (aarch64), which is true for the host on which I ran these commands, but the DEB_HOST_ARCH value is armhf, indicating a 32-bit operating system. This system has to use the armv7l-tagged image. Other systems will have their own ways of determining the word size of the running OS. Since the majority of Reactor users running ARM systems are on Raspberry Pis, I am able to supply the above instructions, but if you happen to have a different ARM system, you'll need to do some web searching to figure out how to expose that information. Or, you can just try the arm64 image, and if it doesn't start up, try the armv7l image. Remember to always back up your system before making any changes. For everyone, please make this change as soon as possible, and if you have any trouble finding a working image, please (1) go back to the current aarch64 image; and (2) let me know in this thread along with as much detail about your host system as you can offer (including the output of the dpkg-architecture command mentioned above).
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Requesting a proper ARM64/aarch64 Docker image (Pi 5 support)
M
Hi, I'm in the process of migrating from a Raspberry Pi 4 (ARMv7) to a Raspberry Pi 5 (ARMv8/aarch64), but I’ve run into an issue: there is no proper ARMv8/aarch64 image available. None of the existing images run on the Pi 5 - they all exit immediately with code 139 (segmentation fault), which typically indicates that the binaries inside the image are not compatible with the ARM64/aarch64 architecture used by the Pi 5. Would it be possible to publish a correct ARMv8/aarch64 (linux/arm64) image? Building one should be relatively straightforward using docker buildx with multi-arch support. For example, my own Node.js images are built this way: docker buildx build --push \ -t <localrepo>/<project>:<tag> \ --platform=linux/arm64,linux/amd64 \ --file ./apps/<project>/Dockerfile . This produces both the AMD64 and ARM64/v8 variants automatically. Also, as a side note, it may be best to avoid using Alpine as the base image for the ARM64 build, since musl-based builds often cause compatibility issues and unnecessary headaches. A glibc-based base image (e.g., Debian or Ubuntu) tends to work far more reliably on ARM64, especially for Node.js applications. @toggledbits - tagging you in case you missed this. Thanks, mgvra
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Script action and custom timers
therealdbT
Sorry to write here without trying, but I’m flying today. Am I correct if i say that script action with alarm() makes it possible to execute a reaction in a given interval, lets say 15 seconds or 3.5 minutes? That sounds amazing, since I’ve used weird tricks, including a custom controller, just to do this.
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Help resolve change in behaviour post update
CatmanV2C
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Reactor w/HA 2025.11 error on set_datetime service call setting only time
CrilleC
@toggledbits Do you know if this is related to that PR or is it a change they made in 2025.11.1? [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.319Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag with { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.320Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "10:45", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": (null) }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_dag" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984320<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "10:45" }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"10:45","datetime":null,"timestamp":null},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_dag"},"id":1762866984320} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 0 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 1 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt with { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "03:00", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": 0 }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_natt" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984323<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"03:00","datetime":null,"timestamp":0},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_natt"},"id":1762866984323} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 1 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 2 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> all actions completed.
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Reactor Version 25310 : Office Light control via rule in reactor no longer working since last update.
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Hello, I currently have an office light (connected via a Leviton Zwave Dimmer switch) controlled from a Gen5 Aeotech Zwave switch installed on my Synology 720+ NAS. I run HA(2025.11.10) in a virtual machine from my NAS and Reactor on the container manager of the same NAS. Prior to updating to 25304 the rule I had set to turn the light on to a specific dimming value worked correctly. Now the rule appears to follow the decision tree, however the reaction does not trigger setting the dimming or turning on the office light? Strangely I can still turn the light on and off as well as dim it directly from HASS..? I have tried using the ''try this action'' button in the rules reaction setting and it will not control the light and does not throw an error flagÉ Please help, P.S Reactor has been rock steady for me over the last few years and I'm a big fan of this solution.
Multi-System Reactor
[Solved] alarm() in global expression throws error in log.
CrilleC
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[Solved] Define function issue in latest-25304
CrilleC
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No Upgrade Notification for Build 25308?
CatmanV2C
FWIW I'm no longer getting a notification from MSR that there's an update. Just thought I'd mention it C
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Strange behavior in MSR latest-25304 with disabled groups in Reaction
therealdbT
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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
therealdbT
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The reaction stopped working (Google Nest max playing a video)
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Handling Dead Entities and Renamed Entities
PablaP
Hello all.. been a minute! I recently rebuilt my Z wave network and migrated to a new z wave stick. In order to prevent any downtime I kept my original z wave network up and ran a docker version of Z Wave JS UI with my new controller. This way I could add device by device without having any devices down. I finally moved all the devices over to my new stick today. The final step was to migrate everything from my Docker instance of Z Wave JS UI to the HA add-on of Z Wave JS UI. However during this migration some of the names didn't populate correctly which I later managed to import back into Z Wave JS UI. The issue was in Reactor it is stuck on the default names and the entities are not updating. I removed the controller from Reactor, restarted, hard refreshed, and added the controller back however the new entity names have not updated. Also it seems like the old entities from my previous instance of Z Wave JS UI are lingering and not being marked as dead (I believe a certain amount of time needs to lapse before they're marked as dead in Reactor). My goal is to basically purge all the entities for the 'ZWaveJS' controller in Reactor so it can pull all the updated entity names and only the entities that exist in Z Wave JS UI. I cannot find a quick way to do this, I know entities can be deleted one by one, but with over 100 entities this would take long I am guessing that if I added the controller with a new name in in the Reactor config it would pull the updated entities and names but I think that would break my rules since the entity IDs would change (I made sure to name all the entities the exact same as they were previously to prevent this issue).
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Strange behavior for MQTT templates using payload and attributes
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[MSR] reactor-mqtt-contrib package for additional MQTT templates
therealdbT
I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only). Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package: https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go. I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them. The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression. Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests
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HA 2025.9.4 Supported Yet?
CatmanV2C
Tangentially did I miss 2025.9.4 getting blessed in MSR? I've been holding off Cheers C
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Rule Set UI bug - RESOLVED
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    Elcid
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    #93

    isNaN([1,2,3]) and isNaN("ten"/2) and isNaN("ten" + "eight") are all true

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      wrote on last edited by toggledbits
      #94

      null coerces to zero (0) for arithmetic operations, so 1/null is infinity which is not null.

      int("abc") results in NaN which will return isNaN(int("abc"))==true

      bool(null) should return false and I will fix it.

      Edit: just to follow up, I've added Infinity as a keyword/value to the grammar, with a supporting isInfinity(value) test function (you can also test via value === Infinity), and added that to the documentation for the next release/build. And bool(null) is fixed. FYI, bool() takes a slightly deeper view of "truthiness" than JavaScript natively: the values (number) 0, null, empty string ("") and NaN are false as in JavaScript, but so additionally in lexpjs/Reactor are string "0", string "no", string "off", and string "false"; any other value of any type is true (including empty arrays and objects).

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        #95

        MSR RECIPES: Compact object-based message composer

        Several of my Rules send out SMTP emails, and I'm always looking for a compact method of composing these outbound messages, using the fewest expressions along with a simple "mail merge" template. Here's a two-variable approach you might consider:

        msgBody ► "This is my message." 
        // leave blank if msgBody will be set by other Rules
        
        msgTemplate ► 
        tmp = {hdr:"Header here" ,  msg:msgBody ,  ftr:"Footer here" ,  crlf:"\n"},
        send = {message:tmp.hdr+tmp.crlf+tmp.msg+tmp.crlf+tmp.ftr} , send.message
        

        I hope this can be adapted to your workflow somehow!

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            wrote on last edited by LibraSun
            #97

            Can someone please explain how you would create an array within a Rule that does the following:
            (a) begins with an expression that is an empty array;
            (b) has another expression containing the .dim_level of a given light;
            (c) each time the Rule sets (activates/triggers), the value of (b) is pushed into (a)

            Working example:
            First time light gets turned on, the rule runs. Dim level of 50 is pushed onto end of [ ], making it [50].
            Next time light turns on, the rule again runs and pushes the dim level of 75 onto array, making it [50,75].
            Etc.

            I can't quite grok where to put my push ( ). In a [Set Variable] using ${{ }} substitution? In an auxiliary Expression? (I've attempted this approach and can only get one iteration along, meaning the array stops growing after 1 element.) And how does one declare an empty array inside an Expression that will otherwise be modified by the Rule, which normally requires it to be blank?

            Thanks!

            @toggledbits , to put this more succinctly, I find myself unable to implement in MSR the construct you laid out here for creating a time series.

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              wrote on last edited by LibraSun
              #98

              SOLUTION: This works for creating a timed data series in MSR...

              test1 := if go=="1" then push( test1 , getEntity( "vera>device_110" ).attributes.dimming.level , 5 ) else test1 endif

              ...BUT...

              you must first pre-populate the test1 variable with an empty array [ ], SAVE, then paste in the above definition. Otherwise, MSR will throw a "no such 'push' function on (null)" error! (I call this the "Chicken and the Egg" conundrum, whereas Reactor for Luup doesn't complain about doing push to a non-existent array; it just invisibly creates one for you.)

              In my set reaction, I do a [Set Variable] [ go ] = 1, and in the reset reaction [Set Variable] [ go ] = 0, with an Interval imposed on the Rule's sole Trigger condition, making it go TRUE for 2 seconds every 60 seconds.

              NOTE: Interestingly, with Interval limited to 3 repeats, the variable go changes to "1" only 3 times (expected), yet somehow the array gets fully populated with 5 values (unexpected), so I must not fully understand the leading- and trailing-edge nature of Interval as it applies to Expression re-evaluation. I'm sure @toggledbits will elucidate? Or is this truly unexpected behavior?

              ANSWER: Unchecking "Force re-evaluation of expressions and conditions" in both the set and reset reactions cured the problem of "too many data points". There was my problem.

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                SOLUTION: This works for creating a timed data series in MSR...

                test1 := if go=="1" then push( test1 , getEntity( "vera>device_110" ).attributes.dimming.level , 5 ) else test1 endif

                ...BUT...

                you must first pre-populate the test1 variable with an empty array [ ], SAVE, then paste in the above definition. Otherwise, MSR will throw a "no such 'push' function on (null)" error! (I call this the "Chicken and the Egg" conundrum, whereas Reactor for Luup doesn't complain about doing push to a non-existent array; it just invisibly creates one for you.)

                In my set reaction, I do a [Set Variable] [ go ] = 1, and in the reset reaction [Set Variable] [ go ] = 0, with an Interval imposed on the Rule's sole Trigger condition, making it go TRUE for 2 seconds every 60 seconds.

                NOTE: Interestingly, with Interval limited to 3 repeats, the variable go changes to "1" only 3 times (expected), yet somehow the array gets fully populated with 5 values (unexpected), so I must not fully understand the leading- and trailing-edge nature of Interval as it applies to Expression re-evaluation. I'm sure @toggledbits will elucidate? Or is this truly unexpected behavior?

                ANSWER: Unchecking "Force re-evaluation of expressions and conditions" in both the set and reset reactions cured the problem of "too many data points". There was my problem.

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                toggledbits
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                #99

                @librasun said in Expressions and LuaXP Functions:

                you must first pre-populate the test1 variable with an empty array

                You don't actually. This is just a bug in lexpjs. I've fixed it in my local copy, will be in the next build. It's just this simple:

                bca7371e-5581-4a44-a729-4f993cb00d38-image.png

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                  #100

                  @toggledbits Do you want to include conditional key references like this in lexpjs?
                  obj={'122':['a',5, true]}
                  obj?['123'][0] // null or throws error
                  obj?['122'][0] // (string) "a"

                  By this I mean do you want to have square bracketed key references treated the way potentially non-existent dot references are handled using question marks.

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                    toggledbits
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #101

                    Confused. Are you asking for this to be added?

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      LibraSun
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #102

                      I think so, if it's possible. Just wanted to (a) make sure that ?[ doesn't exist yet (my testing seems inconclusive), and (b) you consider it necessary. I've already bumped into a potential use case.

                      So, I suppose "Yes, add it" at least for consistency with existing ?. usage.

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                      • LibraSunL LibraSun

                        I think so, if it's possible. Just wanted to (a) make sure that ?[ doesn't exist yet (my testing seems inconclusive), and (b) you consider it necessary. I've already bumped into a potential use case.

                        So, I suppose "Yes, add it" at least for consistency with existing ?. usage.

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                        wrote on last edited by toggledbits
                        #103

                        @librasun OK... so I think I'm seeing through the confusion now...

                        The ?[ and ?. operators already exist; they were added together with ?? a long time ago. They are left-associative, so they refer to the operand on the left. In your examples, they will not work as you are trying to get them to because obj is non-null in every case (it's the first thing defined in the example). I think what you mean to say is:

                        obj={'122':['a',5, true]}
                        obj['123']?[0] // which will return null and not throw an error
                        obj['122']?[0] // which will return (string) "a"
                        

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                          LibraSun
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #104

                          Agree with everything you just wrote. I was mis-applying the question marks, as far as placement in my expression (treating it as a prepend instead of append). Thanks for straightening me out yet again.

                          I had mistakenly thought this construct only worked on objects.?with.?arbitrary.?keys and arrays[with_arbitary_indexes]? and not object keys (with non-standard names) referred to via brackets. My bad.

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                            wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                            #105

                            CODE SAMPLE: Creating an Array of N Whole Numbers [0, 1, ... , N]

                            Sometimes you need an array of Counting Numbers from zero to some arbitrary integer N. But it's hard to write this as an Expression in MSR, because you don't know in advance how long to make the array, and the value of N may change later.

                            This somewhat byzantine construct fills the bill, and works for N=0 up to N=56:

                            arrCount := N=56,each s in keys(substr((s='s'+1/9)+s+s,0,N+1)): int(s)
                            

                            This example evaluates to the array:

                            arrCount == [0,1,2, … ,55,56]
                            

                            Just change the number after N= (it could also be another variable name, of course!) to suit your needs.

                            BONUS: Need more numbers? Just add another +s in the middle for an additional 19 integers (giving max. N=75). Repeat indefinitely!

                            P.S. @toggledbits I may need to enter this in the Obfuscated Lexpjs Code contest!

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                              wrote on last edited by toggledbits
                              #106

                              I think it's a grand prize winner for the "Solutions for Problems Nobody Has Ever Had Using Reactor" contest, for sure, but I'll admit it's not a straightforward problem to solve without a counting loop structure, so the question is, what's the best approach:

                              1. Implement a counting loop statement (for in many languages);
                              2. Take the Python-ish approach and have either a range() function or a start..end range operator, which you could use as the operand in each;
                              3. Other?

                              Choice 2 is better suited to an expression environment, but we already ride the fine edge with each, first and do statements in the current language. But in keeping with the flavor, each of these statements still produces an expression result, so still arguably as much operator as statement; it's less clear what a sensible return result from "for" might be. On the other hand, #2 requires an array be built in memory over which to iterate, and an error could easily build a large array that consumes dangerously large amounts of (or all) available memory and have a negative impact on stability (so perhaps more safeguards in order, but how big is too big?).

                              EDIT: I just prototyped the two options given above:

                              # Example for to build array of values 1-25
                              arr=[]; for i =1,25: push(arr, i)
                              # That's unnecessarily clunky and could be streamlined by making "for" return an array
                              # of result values like "each":
                              arr=for i=1,25: i
                              # But then... that means "for" is about the same as "each", just different operands.
                              # In my mind, that kind of argues for option 2:
                              arr=each i in range(1,25): i
                              # or
                              arr=each i in 1..25: i
                              # and even that's unnecessary, because you could just do
                              arr=range(1,25)
                              arr=1..25
                              # because both of those naturally return an array.
                              # Another example, to sum all the values from 1 to 25 it would be:
                              sum=0; for i in 1,25: sum=sum+i
                              sum=0; each i in range(1,25): sum=sum+i
                              sum=0; each i in 1..25: sum=sum+i
                              

                              I think the range operator .. is the cleanest all around, and relieves the ambiguity of having both for and each so similar. I'm not sure .. is any easier or harder to learn/remember than having a function range(start,end). So I'm leaning toward option 2 with range operator ...

                              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                #107

                                100% agree that sum=0; each i in 1..25: sum=sum+i makes the most sense in terms of conciseness without introducing another function name. I don't foresee any usability issues with an m..n operator generally.

                                I'd expect .. to accept any integer, – or +, for its arguments m and n, regardless if m>n or n>m. Use cases include step functions or monotonic sequences for things like dimming levels over time.

                                Sure looks better than what I came up with, eh? 🐶

                                Glad I brought it up, because I had recently been hand-coding my own arrays for use with each.

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                                  #108

                                  @toggledbits For today's checkup on how Expressions handle assigning values by reference, I constructed:

                                  a=b=c=[1,2,3], pop(a), shift(b), [a==b,b==c,a==c,c]
                                  

                                  // result is [true,true,true,[2]]

                                  A. Pls confirm this is as expected. (I'm guessing 'Yes')
                                  B. Does result comport with typical user's expectations? (I'm guessing 50/50)
                                  C. I know you don't want me mashing that "Try" ► button (in lieu of actual, useful, runtime evals).

                                  Just something that's been on my mind, wondering if it belongs in your Test Suite.

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                                    #109

                                    You can't compare arrays (or objects) with ==. What it's telling you when you write a==b is that neither a nor b are null, 0, or false, and they are identical references. So yes, this is all expected.

                                    As for it comporting with user expectations, if the user is a programmer, I think this will be no surprise. Non-programmers have the learning curve. Again, another reason I really don't like guiding users to expressions. New users, IMO, should be blissfully unaware of their existence.

                                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                      #110

                                      Wise words!

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                                        #111

                                        By the way, I forgot to mention, as is often necessary in many languages because of the reference issue, there is a clone() function that makes a new copy of an existing array or object. So a=[1,2,3],b=clone(a),push(b,99) will result in a having [1,2,3] and b having [1,2,3,99].

                                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                          wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                                          #112

                                          It's as if you read my mind. I suppose my numerous "cloning arrays" examples gave it away.

                                          Without clone(), I was never (easily) able to manipulate a copied array without affecting the original, and that was driving me bonkers.

                                          Thanks!

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