Hi guys,
Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular.
Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets.
I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.
I have installed MSR on a RP5 bare metal and then copied the config and store files. Everything seems to be on the RP5 but I am missing all global expression and I don't see the controller time.
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My browser is Microsoft Edge Version 135.0.3179.54 (Official build) (64-bit)
I have probably done something stupid or missed a step but I am stuck.
Thanks for any help.
Hi,
It seems that the widget deletion does not work. I tried to drag the widget to the left (as explained in here https://smarthome.community/topic/1071/deleting-widgets?_=1744037333660)
but it does not delete it. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
Also the landing page after login is empty and seems be have some JS issues on the dev console:
Screenshot from 2025-04-07 18-06-19.png
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Using dockerized version of Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25082-3c348de6 on Chromium 135.0.7049.52 (Official Build) snap (64-bit)
br,
mgvra
Good day all,
I have an notification set up for my washing machine to let me know when it's complete. I have a templete sensor set up in HAAS to let me know if it's Washing, in Standby, or off, based upon the power consumption (Shelly 1PM on outlets)
The MSR code is relatively simple. I have a built in false positive attribute for if MSR gets rebooted, because I would suddenly get tons of notifications when I upgraded MSR.
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What I'm trying to introduce, is a way to verify that I just didn't bump the knob on the washing machine when transferring loads from the washer to the dryer, which turns on the display and brings the power above the Standby threshold.
The power goes up to 3.7W for about 4 minutes if the selector knob is bumped/turned.
What would the best way to do this be? I have most of my MSR code set up for a couple of years now, and my coding logic is struggling a bit.
I think I need a power threshold to be substained for a minimum time period (say 2 or 3 minutes, above 10W), before the other triggers can act. What would the best way to do that be?
Running: latest-25082-3c348de6
Fedora 41 Server
HAAS:
Core
2025.3.4
Supervisor
2025.03.4
Operating System
15.1
Frontend
20250306.0
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.
Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file
x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }'While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?
Hi!
I get this message when I'm on the status tab:
System Configuration Check
The time on this system and on the Reactor host are significantly different. This may be due to incorrect system configuration on either or both. Please check the configuration of both systems. The host reports 2025-04-01T15:29:29.252Z; browser reports 2025-04-01T15:29:40.528Z; difference 11.276 seconds.
I have MSR installed as a docker on my Home Assistant Blue / Hardkernel ODROID-N2/N2+. MSR version is latest-25082-3c348de6.
HA versions are:
Core 2025.3.4
Supervisor 2025.03.4
Operating System 15.1
I have restarted HA as well as MSR multiple times. This message didn´t show two weeks ago. Don´t know if it have anything to do with the latest MSR version.
Do anyone know what I can try?
Thanks in advance!
Let's Be Careful Out There (Hill Street reference...) 🙂
/Fanan
I have a very strange situation, where if InfluxDB restarts, other containers may fail when restarting at the same time (under not easy to understand circumstances), and InfluxDB remains unreachable (and these containers crashes). I need to reboot these containers in an exact order, after rebooting InfluxDB.
While I understand what's going on, I need a way to reliable determine that InfluxDB is not reachable and these containers are not reachable, in order to identify this situation and manually check what's going on - and, maybe, in the future, automatically restart them if needed.
So, I was looking at HTTP Request action, but I need to capture the HTTP response code, instead of the response (becase if ping is OK, InfluxDB will reply with a 204), and, potentially, a way to programmatically detect that it's failing to get the response.
While I could write a custom HTTP controller for this or a custom HTTP virtual device, I was wondering if this is somewhat on you roadmap @toggledbits
Thanks!
Hi ,
I'm on
-Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25067-62e21a2d
-Docker on Synology NAS
-ZWaveJSUI 9.31.0.6c80945
Problem with ZwaveJSUI:
When I try to change color to a bulb RGBWW, it doesn't change to the RGB color and the bulb remains warm or cold white.
I tryed with Zipato RGBW Bulb V2 RGBWE2, Hank Bulb HKZW-RGB01, Aentec 6 A-ZWA002, so seems that it happens with all RGBWW bulb with reactor/zwavejsui.
I'm using from reator the entity action: "rgb_color.set" and "rgb_color.set_rgb".
After I send the reactor command, It changes in zwavejsui the rgb settings but doesn't put the white channel to "0", so the prevalent channel remains warm/cold White and the bulb doesn't change into the rgb color.
This is the status of the bulb in zwavejsui after "rgb_color.set" (235,33,33,) and the bulb is still warmWhite.
x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor={"warmWhite":204,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}The "cold white" and "warm white" settings interfer with the rgb color settings.
Reactor can change bulb colors with rgb_color set — (value, ui8, 0x000000 to 0xffffff) or rgb_color set_rgb — (red, green, blue, all ui1, 0 to 255) but if warm or cold white
are not to "0", zwavejsui doesn't change them and I can't find a way to change into rgb or from rgb back to warm white.
So if I use from reactor: rgb_color set_rgb — (235,33,33) in zwavejsui I have
x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: targetColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: targetColor 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: currentColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: currentColorIn zwavejsui, the bulb changes rgb set but warm White remains to "204" and the bulb remais on warm White channel bacause is prevalent on rgb set.
x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_0=204 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_1=0 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_2=235 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_3=33 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_4=33Is it possible to targetColor also for "warmWhite" and "coldWhite" and have something similar to this?
x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"warmWhite":0,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}Thanks in advance.
Good day all,
I have a reaction set up, that I use for both troubleshooting and changing home modes when one of my family members either arrive or are leaving. I use the companion app for HAAS on our iPhones, and HAAS reports if the person associated with the iPhone enters or leaves the geofenced area around my home. I'm sure most MSR and HAAS users are familiar with this.
I use this rule set mainly as a condition for other rules, however, as part of troubleshooting, a notification is sent through HAAS to the companion app when the rule becomes true. The problem is that I'm getting notifications now for both arriving and departing simultaneously.
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36903cdd-a87f-473b-82ef-af9ef96d3c44-image.png It used to work fine as intended. I'm not sure exactly when it changed, but now I'm getting two notifications when either of these conditions change.
Any idea what could be happening?
Edit:
Running: latest-25082-3c348de6, bare-metal Linux
ZWaveJSControllerr [0.1.25082]
MSR had been running fine, but I decided to follow the message to upgrade to 25067. Since the upgrade, I have received the message "Controller "<name>" (HubitatController hubitat2) could not be loaded at startup. Its ID is not unique." MSR throws the message on every restart. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
I am running MSR on a Raspberry Pi4 connecting to two Hubitat units over an OpenVPN tunnel. One C8 and a C8 Pro. Both are up-to-date. It appears that despite the error message that MSR may be operating properly.
Similarly as for local expressions, global expressions evaluate and update fine when getEntity(...) structure is used. However, at least when certain functions are in use, expressions do not update.
Consider the following test case:
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Even though auto-evaluation is active, value does not change (it changes only if that expression is manually run). MSR restarts do not help.
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Note: Tested using build 25067 on Docker. I have also a PR open (but couldn't now get details or PR number as my Mantis account was somehow expired?).
Trying to understand what cause a local expresssion to be evaluated. I have read the manual but I am still not clear about it. Using the test rule below, I can see in the log that the rule is being automatically evaluated every time the temperature entity is changing. That is great...
What I am trying to understand is why the expression is not evaluated based on time as well since the "case" statement has time dependencies.
Any help would be appreciated
I have the following test rule:
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Here is the expressioncode:
vFrom1 = "09:25:00", vFrom2 = "09:30:00", vFrom3 = "09:41:00", vTo = "10:55:00", # Get current time (format HH:MM:SS) vToDay = strftime("%H:%M:%S"), #Get current house temperature CurrentHouseTemp = getEntity( "hass>Thermostat2 " ).attributes.temperature_sensor.value, case when CurrentHouseTemp <= 19 and vToDay >= vFrom1 && vToDay <= vTo: "true1" # From1 when CurrentHouseTemp <= 20 and vToDay >= vFrom2 && vToDay <= vTo: "true2" # From2 when CurrentHouseTemp < 26 and vToDay >= vFrom3 && vToDay <= vTo: "true3" # From3 else "false" endI am getting a Runtime error on different browsers when I click exit when editing an existing or creating a new global reaction containing a group. If the global reaction does not have a group I don't get an error. I see a similar post on the forum about a Runtime Error when creating reactions but started a new thread as that appears to be solved.
The Runtime Error is different in the two browsers
Safari v18.3
Google Chrome 133.0.6943.142
TypeError: self.editor.isModified is not a function at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:34) You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.Steps to reproduce:
Click the pencil to edit a global reaction with a group.
Click the Exit button.
Runtime error appears.
or
Click Create Reaction
Click Add Action
Select Group
Add Condition such as Entity Attribute.
Add an Action.
Click Save
Click Exit
Runtime error appears.
I don’t know how long the error has been there as I haven’t edited the global reaction in a long time.
Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25060-f32eaa46
Docker
Mac OS: 15.3.1
Thanks
I am trying to delete a global expression (gLightDelay) but for some strange reason, it comes back despite clicking the Delete this expression and Save Changes buttons.
I have not created a global expression for some times and just noticed this while doing some clean-up.
I have upgraded Reactor to 25067 from 25060 and the behaviour is still there. I have restarted Reactor (as well as restarting its container) and cleared the browser's cache several times without success.
Here's what the log shows.
[latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:22.690Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:26.254Z <GlobalExpression:NOTICE> Deleting global expression gLightDelay [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:27.887Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" }Reactor latest-25067-62e21a2d
Docker on Synology NAS
Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method.
This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP.
I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone)
I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions?
TIA
C
Hi,
I'm trying to integrate the sonos-mqtt (https://sonos2mqtt.svrooij.io/) with the MSR and it's coming along nicely so far.
But cannot wrap my head around how to define custom capabilities in MQTT templates. I need this for the TTS announcements and similarly for the notification sounds where I would pass the sound file as parameter.
So this is what I have in the local_mqtt_devices.yaml
capabilities: x_sonos_announcement: attributes: actions: speak: arguments: text: type: string volume: type: int delay: type: intAnd this is the template:
templates: sonos-announcement: capabilities: - x_sonos_announcement actions: x_sonos_announcement: speak: topic: "sonos/cmd/speak" payload: expr: > { "text": parameters.text, "volume": parameters.volume, "delayMs": parameters.delay, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" } type: jsonSo the speak action should send something like this to topic sonos/cmd/speak
{ "text": "message goes here", "volume": 50, "delayMs": 100, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" }At startup the MSR seems to be quite unhappy with my configuration:
reactor | [latest-25016]2025-02-09T08:19:59.029Z <MQTTController:WARN> MQTTController#mqtt entity Entity#mqtt>sonos-announcement unable to configure capabilities [Array][ "x_sonos_announcement" ] reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} has unrecognized capability {1:q} in actions reactor | Trace: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:611:28) reactor | at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:125:25) reactor | at MQTTController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:627:30) reactor | at MQTTController.start (/var/reactor/ext/MQTTController/MQTTController.js:268:26) reactor | at async Promise.allSettled (index 0) Configuration for "sonos-announcement" has unrecognized capability "x_sonos_announcement" in actions Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM Configuration for "sonos-announcement" is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: x_sonos_announcement Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AMThis is probably a pretty stupid question and the approach may not even work at all, but maybe someone or @toggledbits for sure, could point me to the right direction.
Basically the idea is to be able to send TTS messages from reactions using entity actions. I've previously used HTTP requests to Sonos HTTP API (https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisns/docker-node-sonos-http-api/) for the same functionality, but since moving to sonos-mqtt, I need a way to send the TTS notifications using MQTTController. Along with the actual message, volume and delay must also be parameterizable.
br,
mgvra
MSR latest-25016-d47fea38 / MQTTController [0.2.24293]
Hi, @toggledbits
I just noticed that following a reboot of my raspberry pi, some of the rules, that I was expecting to recover, are not catching up following a reboot. I have made a simple test rule (rule-m6rz6ol1) with only "after Date/time" as trigger and "turn on a lamp" as a set reaction. All my infrastructure is on the same board so Reactor, Hass, Zwavejs, ... are all rebooting.
Here is the sequence of the test case (All time converted to Zulu to match logs):
Rule "after Date/Time" set to 14:05:00z Shutdown on Raspberry Pi at 14:04:00z Power back up at 14:08:00z Rule overview shows true as of 14:08:14z waiting for 00:00:00 in GUIFrom the log I can see that MSR is picking up the rule and knows that the state of the rule has changed from false to true and tries to send the update to HASS but failed with websocket error.
Here is what I see from the log:
14:04:04z shutdown complete 14:08:08z Power up 14:08:13.111z websocket connection 14:08:15:323z Reaction to the light failed, Websocket not opened After there is a series of websocket connection attempt until 14:08:51z where it seemed to be really ready.Back in 2021 we had a discussion (https://smarthome.community/topic/700/solved-start-up?_=1738766986566) and you proposed to add a startup_delay:xxxx and startup_wait:xxxx parameter in the engine section of "reactor.yaml". When I try the startup_delay (this used to be a hard delay), the engine failed to start (I think). I then try the startup_wait:xxxx without any success. Since it wait for the connection status to be up to cancel the delay, it does not do anyting since Hass is reporting the socket up without really being up ( I think...).
Questions:
Did I figured it all wrong? should the startup_delay:xxxxx have worked? Any ideas?Here is the log:
OK now I am stuck. I did add the log but when I submit the editor complained saying that I am limited to 32767 characters. The log from the shutdown to the time the websocket is stable is about 300000 character long. What are my options?
Not a big issue simply a request if easily doable.
The MSR logs files inside the container are owned by root witch is fine however, the permissions are very restrictive. I do not know if there is something wrong with my installation but the logs permission are set to 222 (write only). Even if the docker volume is set for Read/Write the log files are retaining these values.
I go around the problem by doing a chmod 777 on all reactor logs but every time there is an MSR log rotation the permissions are set back to 222. So unless the permission are implemented in the container there is no permanent solution to this (that I know of).
I do not know much about Docker container so I do not know what is involved here.
Can the logfiles permission be simply chaged in the container to at least allow "other" read permission?
Could the MSR log rotation routine implement a chmod to set the permission?
Just a small anoyance
Thanks
[Solved] Is there a cap or max number of devices a Global Reaction should not exceed?
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Noticed in the last few nights that my Global Reaction to turn on a mere six lights in the evenings the same two devices no longer turn on. One is a dimming smart bulb, the other is a wall outlet.
This has been running flawlessly for months - just in the last few nights I've noticed these two devices being left behind and yes, it's always these two devices only.
"What changed?"
- No Hubitat firmware updates
- No new devices added to Hubitat
- list itemTwo MSR updates (the last two, I keep up with the latest)
- list itemHome Assistant releases (should have zero bearing, HA is nothing more than pretty dashboards)
- list itemAdded MQTT to MSR
I did do a z-wave "repair" last night and am waiting to see if this helps.
Is there any maximum or cap on number of devices that should be included in a Global Reaction?
*Marked as solved as the question asked was answered. The issue persists but the question was answered.
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You don't say specifically, but when you say "dimming smart bulb", I'm thinking plugin, not ZWave. Can be more specific about the devices involved?
To answer the question asked, no, there's no limit.
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It's a smartbulb, unfortunately Hubitat labels it as "Generic ZWave Smart Dimmer" which is misleading. This appears to be a GoControl Z-Wave Dimmable LED Light Bulb, LB60Z-1.
The second device is also misleadingly named in Hubitat as "Generic Z-Wave Relay". It is a GoControl WO15Z outlet.
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Something I don't do on Hubitat that I have to do on Vera is pace actions... by default, VeraController will not send actions more frequently than every 25ms, and this pace seems to work (there have not been any complaints about missing actions that can't be attributed to other causes).
Maybe Hubitat needs it too... that would be a bummer. If adding delays to your reaction resolves the issue, that points in that direction.
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OK, so I'll add some pacing to Hubitat as well. That's disappointing.
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As this has worked flawlessly since MSR was released I'm inclined this is an unfortunate code change somewhere in one of the last releases of Hubitat - although, their last release was some weeks ago. Perhaps something in one of the last couple MSR releases "triggered" something they'd changed that had previously been dormant? Dunno. Thinking aloud.
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None of the recent code changes to Hubitat would affect the performance of actions. The most notable of the changes was resolution of race condition during startup (when the Mode and HSM states are truly updated during startup), and not remotely close to the action implementation. All of the other changes are trivial, and again, not near the action implementation.
It would be easy to prove that the actions are being sent, if you want to run a more detailed test. The logging of actions on Hubitat is, and has been for some time, unconditional, so there will be (or not) evidence in the logs that the actions were sent to Hubitat. If you remove your recently-added delays and run like it was until it fails again, then peruse the logs, I'm pretty sure you'll find those actions were being attempted, at least. I strongly suspect they will be there. If not, there's a high chance we'll see another reason for why they are not.
This highlights, again, that reporting problems in the blind isn't useful. The logs are there for a reason. If something on the engine side isn't working as expected, it should be among the first places you look.
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Of course. The performance of the Hubitat and the mesh are also an issue here. It's a complex system with many variables.
Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.
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I believe I am having a similar problem to the one discussed above, the perception that MSR is much faster than Hubitat.
I explain.
The MSR instantly receives everything that happens in Hubitat, any change of a device when it happens in Hubitat, immediately the MSR recognizes and if there is an action to be taken, immediately evaluates the action and fires the commands.
Then comes the problem, when the MSR triggers the actions for Hubitat devices, it loses actions, does not execute everything, hour an action is completed in all steps, hour fails. If I order to active 5 bulbs in sequence, almost always fails some, not always the same, varies on factors that I do not dominate.
And it doesn't need to have many actions, I have situations of quick reaction action as just turn on a light also failing.
Ok has the factor of the terrible signal from Hubitat (if compared to Vera), a bad management of the mesh network, where I see that the neighbours are poorly mapped and the mesh network poorly built.
But the failure scenario also happens with devices connected direct/next to the Hub.
In summary, the perception I have is that MSR is much faster than Hubitat that misses actions.
Include delay to each action would be a chaos, ok it can be a workaround, but it can't be the final solution.
Is it possible to have something in the configuration that creates the delay when sending each command to Hubitat? Like something like 0.5 seconds between actions?
I don't know if this would solve it, maybe you guys with more experience can point some way forward as the nightmare I had with Vera now happens on Hubitat.
Thanks.
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@wmarcolin said in [Solved] Is there a cap or max number of devices a Global Reaction should not exceed?:
Is it possible to have something in the configuration that creates the delay when sending each command to Hubitat? Like something like 0.5 seconds between actions?
As stated in this thread, He added pacing to Hubitat.
From the docs:
action_pace — sets the minimum delay between actions sent to the hub (i.e. when a Reaction includes many); sending large numbers of requests can overwhelm the hub, it has been found, so this attempts to slow the pace to avoid this issue. The value must be an integer greater than 0, and the units are milliseconds; the default is 25."the nightmare I had with Vera now happens on Hubitat" If the problem was present before then I doubt that this will solve it.
Synology Docker MSR, Hubitat, Home Assistant, Homebridge, ZwaveJS, MQTT, NUT controller.
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@sweetgenius per your history above, by adding this delay to all actions, did it solve the problem? What time frame are you using? Did you leave the default at 25 milliseconds, or did you add more?
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@wmarcolin said in [Solved] Is there a cap or max number of devices a Global Reaction should not exceed?:
per your history above,
I do not have any history above, Its not my thread nor did I comment until I read your post. I just read the thread and release notes and pointed out that both mention pacing.
Synology Docker MSR, Hubitat, Home Assistant, Homebridge, ZwaveJS, MQTT, NUT controller.
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@sweetgenius ops, thanks!
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@toggledbits hi master!
I am going into a state of despair with Hubitat, and thinking that I have made a bad switch from VeraPlus to Hubitat.
Well, as you always comment, look at the log, as I already commented my suspicion that the MSR sent all commands to Hubitat, and this one that failed was confirmed, as you mention in your message.
Routines below.
Looking at the log, I don't understand what sequence the MSR performed, but I see that all of the above actions were sent to Hubitat without fail.
[latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.319Z <Rule:NOTICE> Rule#rule-kx9oxcss configuration changed; reloading [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.321Z <Rule:NOTICE> Rule#rule-kx9oxcss stopping rule [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.324Z <Rule:NOTICE> Rule Rule#rule-kx9oxcss stopped [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.325Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-kx9oxcss (nGarden) started [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.327Z <Rule:INFO> nGarden (Rule#rule-kx9oxcss) SET! [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.331Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "nGarden<SET>" (rule-kx9oxcss:S) [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.345Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction nGarden<SET> (rule-kx9oxcss:S) [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.346Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>298: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/298/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.348Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "nLight Garden ON" (re-kx65h5u7) [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.350Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "nLight Security ON" (re-kx67amal) [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.352Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "nLight Corredor Evening" (re-kx659j8a) [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.377Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nGarden<SET> (rule-kx9oxcss:S) from step 4 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.378Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>296: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/296/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.379Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction nLight Garden ON (re-kx65h5u7) [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.380Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>97: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/97/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.381Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction nLight Security ON (re-kx67amal) [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.382Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>197: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/197/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.383Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction nLight Corredor Evening (re-kx659j8a) [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.384Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>419: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/419/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.456Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nGarden<SET> (rule-kx9oxcss:S) from step 5 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.457Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>297: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/297/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.563Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nLight Garden ON (re-kx65h5u7) from step 1 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.564Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>162: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/162/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.673Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nLight Security ON (re-kx67amal) from step 1 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.674Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>229: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/229/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.782Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nLight Corredor Evening (re-kx659j8a) from step 1 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.784Z <Engine:NOTICE> nLight Corredor Evening delaying until 1639705619783<16/12/2021 20:46:59> [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.889Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nGarden<SET> (rule-kx9oxcss:S) from step 6 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.890Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>449: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/449/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.995Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nLight Garden ON (re-kx65h5u7) from step 2 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:57.996Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for power_switch.on on Entity#hubitat>385: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/385/on [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:58.106Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nLight Security ON (re-kx67amal) from step 2 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:58.106Z <Engine:INFO> nLight Security ON all actions completed. [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:58.214Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nGarden<SET> (rule-kx9oxcss:S) from step 7 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:58.215Z <Engine:INFO> nGarden<SET> all actions completed. [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:58.321Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nLight Garden ON (re-kx65h5u7) from step 3 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:58.322Z <Engine:INFO> nLight Garden ON all actions completed. [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:59.795Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nLight Corredor Evening (re-kx659j8a) from step 2 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:59.796Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for color_temperature.set on Entity#hubitat>419: http://192.168.33.22/apps/api/67/devices/419/setColorTemperature/2850 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:59.800Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction nLight Corredor Evening (re-kx659j8a) from step 3 [latest-21349]2021-12-17T01:46:59.800Z <Engine:INFO> nLight Corredor Evening all actions completed.I have checked each of the devices, all are in the log. I am even using the action_pace: 100 setting and I see that the interval was obeyed.
But out of 10 lights that should be on, as you can see on the Hubitat's panel only 2 were.
Sorry @toggledbits to ask, and I will understand if you don't answer because I see that the MSR is perfect.
Any recommendations for Hubitat? Reset the whole Z-wave radio and pair it again? Any APP that can check radio occupancy or Hubitat processing? Maybe you with your experience can give me some guidance, and again sorry, I know it is not MSR, but I'm almost back to the Vera with all its problems of drive and evolution.
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@wmarcolin I don't have a Hubitat myself but have you looked at the logs on the hub per https://docs.hubitat.com/index.php?title=Logs for hints of what is happening when set reaction fires?
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@wmarcolin Something you've not surfaced, wireless interference. How close is your Hubitat to your WiFi router (they should not be near each other as they will interfere due to the frequencies in use), how close are your z-wave hubs to each other, etc.
Are all devices the kind that are plugged into electricity? I've discovered with some battery-operated devices that they sleep a lot to conserve battery and that delays actions. My iblind controllers are a perfect example: sending a refresh first and then the command seems to make them much happier regarding responding to commands.
As @toggledbits noted in a response to me previously in the thread (and you've supported), the mesh plays a huge role, too.
I had a Veralite and then moved to a VeraSecure. I've done direct comparisons between my VeraSecure and Hubitat using MSR to trigger the rules and the Hubitat was much faster. That, amongst other reasons, is why my VeraSecure is now completely offline.
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@wmarcolin said in [Solved] Is there a cap or max number of devices a Global Reaction should not exceed?:
Looking at the log, I don't understand what sequence the MSR performed, but I see that all of the above actions were sent to Hubitat
Hmmm. I can't answer for the Hubitat part, but I explain the order. The first three actions in nGarden<SET> are Run Reaction, so these enqueue those reactions with the executive -- they are not run in-line. That's why you see the three "Enqueueing" lines, followed by a resume of nGarden<Set> from step 4. We see the action output for device 298, which is step 3 (numbered from 0), before the enqueue messages because enqueueing itself is an asynchronous operation, so the executive quickly started the three Run Reaction enqueue requests, then ran the device 298 Entity Action. Running an entity action is asynchronous, so the executive had to wait for that operation to finish. Since it went into a wait state, the tasks for the three Run Reaction enqueues could run, so they did. When they were done and the 298 device action was finished sending, nGarden<SET> could then resume from step 4 (numbered from 0, so 5 as we look at it). That's device 296 so we see that on the next line. Again, device actions have to wait for the send, so execution paused of nGarden<Set> paused there, which allowed nLight Garden ON, the first of the three enqueued reactions, to start and send its first command to device 97. That blocked that reaction, so nLight Security ON was next in the queue and it started and sent its first device action to 197. That blocked that reaction, so nLight Corredor Evening started and ran its first action against 419. It blocked, of course, so everything paused about 70ms until nGarden<Set> became the first ready task, so it resumed at step 5 (from 0, or 6 as we count from 1). And so on, until all were sent.
I'm not sure what your pacing configuration was at this point, but overall it appears about right for the number of tasks sent. It's hard to tell without more debug on, and maybe I'll add some "standard" messages about device queueing while we're looking at this (since debug on a Controller instance can be very large and a bit like sipping from a firehouse).
One thing to note also is that each Entity Action blocks while sending -- the reaction waits for the hub to acknowledge the request. For that to happen, the request must be sent, and the hub has to give an HTTP 200 (OK) response to the request (if it gives an error, that would be logged, and there are no errors logged in this snippet). So at the least, the hub has acknowledged the request, but that doesn't mean it has completed the request, let alone that the request was successful in its overall execution (e.g. manipulating the device). That's a different and much bigger problem.
I'm not done looking at this. I want to study the timing more carefully as well. There's something about it that doesn't seem right to me. As I said, I'm going to add some more standard (non-debug) diagnostic output to this while we're looking at it, and roll a new release later today, for you to try and send me new logs.
