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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
R
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
T
@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
wmarcolinW
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Wiring Samotech SM308-S into light fitting
F
Hi Smart Home Community. I have used a Sonos inline WiFi switch to make one of my light fittings smart, but it requires a hard reset for WiFi changes, plus it isn't zigbee compatible, which means I can't use the Hue app to control it with the rest of the lights. To that end I bought a Samotech SM308-S as it is recommended as the better than the Sonos equivalent. I am however not exactly sure how to wire it in. The manual is available here Can anyone help me by clarifying which ports I need to use, and whether I should be using the live or switched live line for live etc. I will be keeping using standard switches for a while, although hope to upgrade to tap dials once I have all the fittings upgraded. Thanks
Hardware
Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
tunnusT
I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
T
Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Z-Wave Future....
DesTD
https://forum.z-wave.me/viewtopic.php?f=3417&t=36140 That's not a good thing I think Time to switch again?
Z-Wave.me
Can´t restart or upgrade/deploy MSR
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[Solved] Limit HA Entity in MSR
wmarcolinW
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Disaster recovery and virtualisation
CatmanV2C
Following on from my last thread, some progress has been made over the weekend. With 18G of spanky RAM in my Synology DS224+. I've jumped into the murky world of virtualisation and already eliminated the need for two Raspberry Pi's from my system. Home Assistant: In theory they provide an OVA file which is supported by the Synology. I couldn't get it to work, however, so grabbed a copy of the .img file they supply, renamed it .iso and imported it as a VM. Restored from my full back up and that all seems fantastic. Minidnla Music server: Trivial. Grabbed a Debian .iso for Bookworm and copied that onto the NAS. Created a new machine which mirrored the specs of the Raspberry Pi, booted from the ISO then did an expert install. Once that was all stable with a basic core of stuff and networking, I've made a copy of that as a good base system. Then fired up minidnla on it, mounted my media and that's also woking. Not bad for a short weekend's work. Still not sure about the main NUC though. I'm thinking of buying a new USB stick so I can mess around getting it working on the Synology before I do anything drastic. Once that hurdle is sorted I'm torn between: Using a brand new install of Bookworm, re-installing Z-way server, OpenLuup, AltUI, MSR and HA bridge, then restoring across or Making an ISO of the current system, importing that and upgrading in place (which will be pretty risk free since I can snapshot everything before I make any changes.) Decisions, decisions. C
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Remote access of Zwave stick from Z-wave server
CatmanV2C
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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
R
Hi guys, Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular. Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets. I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.
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Moving MSR from a QNAP container to RP 5 - some issues
Tom_DT
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  • Not so quiet around here :)
    tunnusT tunnus

    Got banned quite quickly from Vera/ezlo forum, without any warning. I was kinda asking for it, but still, they could have some sense of humour over there 🙂

    General Discussion

  • About page after every update
    tunnusT tunnus

    Is it by design that about page pops up after every update? Would be nice if verification was needed only once.
    Screenshot 2022-10-19 at 22.54.08.png

    (Running on Synology Docker if that makes any difference.)

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  • HVAC Control
    tunnusT tunnus

    I've got pretty "interesting" setup on HVAC. I have two heat pumps, a Mitsubishi model that can be controlled through their Melcloud-service, and Nibe F750 which also has a cloud service (Nibe uplink). For both of these I have openHAB bindings (running these on Synology NAS), and with Mitsubishi I'm only currently fetching some data and not really controlling it with openHAB. Melcloud has so good scheduling/timer, that there hasn't been a real need to setup additional control.

    Uplink has a decent API and openHAB fetches all data this API offers, which I in turn poll with two SiteSensors (altogether getting 16 values) running on Vera Plus. Obviously it would be more convenient to get these values straight from Vera, e.g. with SiteSensor, but it would require a (dedicated) plugin as uplink API authentication is not so trivial to set up.

    Thanks to @therealdb's instructions, I've got two Fibaro smart implants connected to F750 and have Reactor logic to change e.g. ventilation speeds if house is empty or CO2 is rising (Netatmo plugin...). This could also be done through uplink API, but there's two points against it, 1) write access is a paid service, 2) with smart implants there's less dependency on cloud (I prefer local setup/logic as many others here). Downside is that with local (AUX-based) access one can only control 5 functions, e.g. could have 4 ventilation speeds and an increase of hot water temperature (boiler).

    Some additional features in use: when ventilation speed is changed, I use Patrick's excellent Sonos-plugin (TTS announcement) and also send Telegram message (again, thanks to @therealdb) with Reactor.

    All in all, Patrick's (@toggledbits) plugins have kept my home automation running and kept me from migrating to other platforms. Vera is currently running pretty solidly, probably due in part to decouple script (yes, you guessed it, again by Patrick), but some memory leaks have surfaced that have previously been hidden by multiple luup reloads, so have to at least plan a backup plan for target migration. Hubitat could be one alternative.

    Screenshot 2021-03-12 at 11.32.35.png

    Hardware

  • Condition must occur after -restriction not working
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits, can confirm that this build fixed the problem

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  • Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays
    tunnusT tunnus

    Hyvää Joulua ja Onnellista Uutta Vuotta 2022! (from Finland 🙂 )

    General Discussion

  • Netatmo – Oath2 login
    tunnusT tunnus

    @akbooer No it doesn't, see documentation. Openhab is also easy to install as a Docker container, although might be bit of an overkill, if it's used only for Netatmo 😀

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • MSR newbie first impressions about 1.0.0
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    Had (and still having) extensive logic running smoothly on Reactor for Vera and now I bit the bullet and started migrating to MSR. Excellent work @toggledbits I must say!

    Importing rules works fine and starting to understand differences with the two products. Still, I have a couple of wishes below: (I can write requests directly to MantisBT if these make sense)

    • Telegram notifications, image & video URL support would be nice
    • UI tweak: when there are no unsaved changes, save button background could be grey instead of red
    • UI tweak 2: ability to drag & drop conditions between triggers and constraints
    • UI tweak 3: collapse all / expand all functionality for rule sets
    • UI tweak 4: also in rule sets page, ability to enable / disable all rules in one set with one click
    • UI tweak 5: liking RfV's UI for status and especially when a group's state is true, then it's clearly visible (green background, see example below), could this be replicated for MSR?
      Screenshot 2021-08-06 at 11.45.04.png

    Then a question about entities, is it possible to hide some of them? Having some Vera device "garbage":

    Screenshot 2021-08-06 at 11.49.46.png

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  • Vera firmware 7.32 beta
    tunnusT tunnus

    Beta discussion (or more of a silence) doesn't look very promising... and as a banned user cannot participate if I wanted to.

    They don't seem to publish a production release, so I guess I have to bite the bullet and go for the latest beta, but the link given (Vera Plus) in the first post does not work, so anyone know from where to download?

    EDIT: Found beta 4, which seems to be the latest one. I guess this is as solid as Vera can ever be?

    Vera

  • Any interest in Groovy programming?
    tunnusT tunnus

    I might have a need to modify some drivers for Hubitat, but can't commit to produce any guides

    How-To

  • Expressions and LuaXP Functions
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits any chance we'll see strftime function coming up "soon"? Or advice how to implement the same with lexpjs (when you have unix timestamp, RfV example below)?

    strftime("%H:%M %d/%m/%y", <timestamp> )

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  • Vera firmware 7.32 beta
    tunnusT tunnus

    Did the upgrade to beta 4 and so far so good, everything seems to work ok. Decoupling also in use. Btw, after fw upgrade, is it necessary to disable nightly heal again, although I had it disabled?

    luup.attr_set("EnableNightlyHeal",0,0)
    

    Eventually, and especially if Vera fails, I'm also going to migrate to Hubitat (Elevation).

    Vera

  • Condition must occur after -restriction
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits okay, that was a bit badly formed that R4V RS = MSR rule set. Also, don't get me wrong that I would be driving a full parity of these two products.

    I raised this up because I think in this case R4V implementation provides more value for the user, and one (at least me 🙂 ) could create more flexible automations if this "only after" restriction could reference other rules at least in the same rule set, if not even broader scale.

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  • Updated to latest MSR 21243 and no entities are being executed I Hubitat
    tunnusT tunnus

    @tunnus said in Updated to latest MSR 21243 and no entities are being executed I Hubitat:

    @matteburk could check this post, although you probably have some other issue

    Well, it turned out you had the same issue

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  • Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits Better?

    Screenshot 2021-09-17 at 13.46.02.png

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  • Rule for devices battery level ?
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits thanks Patrick! Works nicely

    Screenshot 2021-10-05 at 16.40.49.png

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  • What notification system is best?
    tunnusT tunnus

    @andr Telegram. No regrets

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  • Reactor log timestamps
    tunnusT tunnus

    Logs seem to use UTC +0

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  • Suppressing alerts in HTTP Request actions
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits ok, fair enough.

    For me a more usable feature would be if one could suppress all errors related to a specific HTTP-connection (timeout etc), as I'm then implementing notification logic if one particular rule is important enough.

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  • [solved] Ordering of global expressions
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits can confirm that the fix is working (tested with 21297)

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  • Import Vera Rules in Docker Containers?
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits can’t resist saying that for most of us even a single Vera is too much 😅

    Multi-System Reactor
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