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Single protocol?
CatmanV2C
Another question to the hive mind. Prompted by the fact that I lost yet another z-wave device over the weekend due to a power issue. It looks like z-way server is reporting another device failed (although it's working fine) and message queue is far too long IMHO. Also the failed device has been removed in the expert interface, but still there in the 'normal' one. Sigh. Currently I have z-wave, Tuya, thinking about Zigbee.... Does anyone use one single protocol for everything? Right now I'm feeling that as the z-wave stuff dies, I'm just gonna replace it with something else.... C
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HDMI oddness
CatmanV2C
Not really Smart Home stuff, but going to ask as we have smart people... Bear with me on this one. Asking here because of the font of knowledge! For many eek years I have had a Virgin V6 box and a Raspberry Pi running Kodi connected to my TV through a cheap *** HDMI switch. It all worked beautifully but the absolutely critical thing was that the TV remote passed the signals back to the Pi to allow remote control of Kodi. Couple of changes of late: Installed a soundbar on the TV using the ARC (audio return channel). That then turns the soundbar on and off when the TV turns on and off and the TV volume control controls the soundbar volume direct. Everything continues to work Upgraded the software of the Tivo box to Virgin 360. This is literally software only. You get sent a snacky new Bluetooth remote hit 'upgrade' on the screen and off it goes. Now, things are not playing well. Typically when I turn on to watch Kodi the soundbar comes on (as it should) but the TV either puts out sound through its own speakers and the soundbar, or just the soundbar. It's not possible to control the volume of the soundbar through the TV. Also it's not longer possible to control Kodi using the TV remote. If I turn the TV360 box off, i.e. power it down, before turning on to watch Kodi, everything is fine. This makes little to no sense to me. My assumption is that the cheap *** HDMI switch is getting something from the TV360 connection that it didn't used to get when the software was Tivo and that's screwing up the HDMI communications. I'm upgrading the switch to something a little less chap, but wondered if anyone could validate my theory at all? TIA C
General Discussion
Any thoughts on which is better
CatmanV2C
Obviously a quiet forum, but perhaps it's time I'm looking at rolling Zigbee into my system, in large part for the Aqara FP300 presence sensors which seem to finally provide a solution to if the wasp is actually in the box. My current set up is as follows: One Debian VM on Synology NAS running: Z-wave Server Open Luup Multi system reactor HA bridge Mosquito MQQT broker This machine has a UZB Z-wave stick connected via the USB port on the NAS Another HAOS VM on the same NAS running HAOS I've got some older Z-wave stuff that I keep around until it fails. I have some Tuya stuff integrated in HA My thought was to get either a SMLIGHT SLZB-06M or an Aqara Hub M2 Integrate them via Zigbee2MQQT (running on the Debian machine) and then expose them in HA so I can continue to automate in MSR. Thoughts on which of those devices wold be preferable long term. Both are POE capable which is good. It also appears I could add a USB dongle to the NAS and expose it to the HAOS machine. Any thoughts from the assembled experts here? TIA C
Zigbee
Reactor Loading Screen Safari
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Constraints states visually do not match actual
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Oh the joy of pairing
CatmanV2C
When I remember the old days Just added a new Tuya plug (OK so it's cloud) Start to finish, visible in HA and MSR < 30 seconds... C
Vera
Home Assistant Connect ZWA-2 & ZBT-2
therealdbT
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[MSR] Feature request: For Each action on arrays/groups
therealdbT
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[Solved] Error: Command timeout
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at _ClientAPI._commandTimeout (http://192.168.1.100:8111/client/ClientAPI.js:807:179 Seeing this randomly when returning to open browser tab after being away awhile. Once, maybe twice a day. "What did you do to trigger it?" Literally nothing, just walked away and returned and there it was. Actions taken in reasonably close proximity to this particular instance of it popping up: I'd restarted the MSR container in Portainer. I'll try to grab some logs here shortly.
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Issue with MSR UI becoming unresponsive
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I'm having an issue with MSR's UI being very unresponsive. It started happening a couple days ago and I didn't make any changes that would have caused this except adding some meross lan devices in HA. When I go into an entity action and use the search functionality, it usually will start filtering and then get to a place after a few letters are entered where it will take 30 seconds or more (sometimes minutes) for the UI to show what I am typing. During this time MSR ui is completely unresponsive. I've tried multiple browsers and multiple computers. HA and MSR are both deployed in docker. I have run HTOP on the host and when the problem happens there are no CPU/Memory spikes at all. From a functionality standpoint MSR is working perfectly. This seems to be an UI issue only. Do i need to ditch Docker and run MSR on a Proxmox VM? I have both stand alone Docker and Proxmox environments. I dont mind doing that I just want to be able to use the UI again... Installation method Home Assistant Container Core 2025.7.3 Frontend 20250702.3 nothing crazy in the logs except some openweather map stuff that doesn't make any sense as it is working fine in MSR Any help would be greatly appreciated Reactor latest-25328-b2ed1365 app 25328 configuration from /var/reactor/config NODE_PATH /opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.843Z <app:null> Reactor build latest-25328-b2ed1365 starting on v24.11.1 /usr/local/bin/node [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> Process ID 1 user/group 0/0; docker; platform linux/x64 #161-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 22 14:25:40 UTC 2025; locale (undefined) [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> Basedir /opt/reactor; data in /var/reactor/storage [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> NODE_PATH=/opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.865Z <app:null> Resolved timezone=America/New_York, environment TZ=America/New_York; offset minutes from UTC=-300 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.867Z <default:null> Module i18n v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.867Z <app:null> Configured locale (undefined); selected locale(s) en-US.UTF-8 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.879Z <app:null> Loaded locale en-US for en-US [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.879Z <app:null> Local date/time using configured timezone and locale formatting is "11/30/2025, 3:01:53 PM" [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.889Z <Structure:null> Module Structure v25326 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.890Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v24312 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.904Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.923Z <Timer:null> Module Timer v25279 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.924Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v25314 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.927Z <Entity:null> Module Entity v25251 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.929Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v25253 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.930Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v25318 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.937Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v25283 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.937Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.942Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v25258 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.953Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.956Z <Rule:null> Module Rule v25323 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.958Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v25292 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.959Z <Engine:null> Module Engine v25325 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.964Z <httpapi:null> Module httpapi v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.972Z <wsapi:null> Module wsapi v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.994Z <TaskQueue:null> Module TaskQueue 24138 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.994Z <VeraController:null> Module VeraController v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:54.179Z <HassController:null> Module HassController v25325 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.797Z <OWMWeatherController:null> Module OWMWeatherController v25268 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.800Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v25323 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.807Z <MQTTController:null> Module MQTTController v22092 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:20.630Z <OWMWeatherController:CRIT> FetchError: request to https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?lat=xxxxxxxxxx&lon=-xxxxxxxxx&appid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&units=standard&_r=1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxfailed, reason: [-] FetchError: request to https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?lat=xxxxxxxxxxx&lon=-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&appid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&units=standard&_r=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxfailed, reason: at ClientRequest.<anonymous> (/opt/reactor/node_modules/node-fetch/lib/index.js:1501:11) at ClientRequest.emit (node:events:508:28) at ClientRequest.emit (node:domain:489:12) at emitErrorEvent (node:_http_client:108:11) at TLSSocket.socketErrorListener (node:_http_client:575:5) at TLSSocket.emit (node:events:508:28) at TLSSocket.emit (node:domain:489:12) at emitErrorNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:170:8) at emitErrorCloseNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:129:3) at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:89:21
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Date/time condition
tunnusT
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Is there a way to turn this section (image in post) off?
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Device log?
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@toggledbits is there a log that will show me what rule is turning on a specific device? I've got a switch that has been kicking on at 2200 ET for several nights now and the reactor.log doesn't have a thing in it that I can see on a device level (it being more rules-based).
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Midnight crossing not working in date/time condition (build 25325)
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[Solved] Local expression in Rule does not evaluate as they used to do
CrilleC
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Home Assistant 2025.11.2 and latest-25315
CrilleC
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Notice to Docker + ARM Users (RPi 3/4/5 and others)
toggledbitsT
This post does not apply to users of Intel/AMD-based systems. If you are using a Reactor image tagged latest-amd64 or stable-amd64, then this post does not apply to you. It also does not apply to bare-metal installs; it's for users of docker images on ARM-based systems only (principally Raspberry Pi hosts, but could be others). After January 15, 2026, I will no longer produce the aarch64-tagged docker image for Reactor. The ARM images will be arm64 for 64-bit operating systems, and armv7l for 32-bit operating systems. For those of you running a container from the aarch64 image today, this will be a relatively simple change: you just need to switch the image used for your docker container to a differently-tagged image. If you are using docker-compose, then this is a relatively simple matter of changing the image line in your docker-compose.yaml file and then stopping (docker-compose down) and restarting (docker-compose up -d) your Reactor daemon. But there's a catch... not all of you can safely just switch from the aarch64 image to the arm64 image. And, you can't just trust the output of uname -m, for example, because this exposes the CPU architecture, but not the word size of the OS running on that CPU. For Raspberry Pi systems, the transition to 64-bit operating systems was long (starting in 2016) and not always obvious — although there was a first "official" 64-bit OS for RPis in 2020, it did not become a default recommendation in the Raspberry Pi Imager until 2021, and then that was only the default for Pi 3/4 systems with >4GB RAM; it was 2022 before it was universally recommended for all 64-bit CPUs regardless of RAM size. Depending on when you first imaged your RPi system and what default you may have been offered/chosen, you could today easily have a 64-bit CPU Raspberry Pi running a 32-bit version of the operating system. Upgrades along the way would not change this; changing it to fully 64-bit requires a full reimage of the system. To establish if your OS is 64- or 32-bit, log in to your Pi and run: sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH. If the response is arm64 or aarch64, then you are running a 64-bit OS and you should use the arm64-tagged image. If it's anything else, you are running a 32-bit OS, and you should use the armv7l-tagged image. pi@rpi4-1:~ $ sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH armhf pi@rpi4-1:~ $ uname -m aarch64 pi@rpi4-1:~ $ In the example above, the uname command reports that the CPU is 64-bit architecture (aarch64), which is true for the host on which I ran these commands, but the DEB_HOST_ARCH value is armhf, indicating a 32-bit operating system. This system has to use the armv7l-tagged image. Other systems will have their own ways of determining the word size of the running OS. Since the majority of Reactor users running ARM systems are on Raspberry Pis, I am able to supply the above instructions, but if you happen to have a different ARM system, you'll need to do some web searching to figure out how to expose that information. Or, you can just try the arm64 image, and if it doesn't start up, try the armv7l image. Remember to always back up your system before making any changes. For everyone, please make this change as soon as possible, and if you have any trouble finding a working image, please (1) go back to the current aarch64 image; and (2) let me know in this thread along with as much detail about your host system as you can offer (including the output of the dpkg-architecture command mentioned above).
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Requesting a proper ARM64/aarch64 Docker image (Pi 5 support)
M
Hi, I'm in the process of migrating from a Raspberry Pi 4 (ARMv7) to a Raspberry Pi 5 (ARMv8/aarch64), but I’ve run into an issue: there is no proper ARMv8/aarch64 image available. None of the existing images run on the Pi 5 - they all exit immediately with code 139 (segmentation fault), which typically indicates that the binaries inside the image are not compatible with the ARM64/aarch64 architecture used by the Pi 5. Would it be possible to publish a correct ARMv8/aarch64 (linux/arm64) image? Building one should be relatively straightforward using docker buildx with multi-arch support. For example, my own Node.js images are built this way: docker buildx build --push \ -t <localrepo>/<project>:<tag> \ --platform=linux/arm64,linux/amd64 \ --file ./apps/<project>/Dockerfile . This produces both the AMD64 and ARM64/v8 variants automatically. Also, as a side note, it may be best to avoid using Alpine as the base image for the ARM64 build, since musl-based builds often cause compatibility issues and unnecessary headaches. A glibc-based base image (e.g., Debian or Ubuntu) tends to work far more reliably on ARM64, especially for Node.js applications. @toggledbits - tagging you in case you missed this. Thanks, mgvra
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Script action and custom timers
therealdbT
Sorry to write here without trying, but I’m flying today. Am I correct if i say that script action with alarm() makes it possible to execute a reaction in a given interval, lets say 15 seconds or 3.5 minutes? That sounds amazing, since I’ve used weird tricks, including a custom controller, just to do this.
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  • Not so quiet around here :)
    tunnusT tunnus

    Got banned quite quickly from Vera/ezlo forum, without any warning. I was kinda asking for it, but still, they could have some sense of humour over there 🙂

    General Discussion

  • About page after every update
    tunnusT tunnus

    Is it by design that about page pops up after every update? Would be nice if verification was needed only once.
    Screenshot 2022-10-19 at 22.54.08.png

    (Running on Synology Docker if that makes any difference.)

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  • HVAC Control
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    I've got pretty "interesting" setup on HVAC. I have two heat pumps, a Mitsubishi model that can be controlled through their Melcloud-service, and Nibe F750 which also has a cloud service (Nibe uplink). For both of these I have openHAB bindings (running these on Synology NAS), and with Mitsubishi I'm only currently fetching some data and not really controlling it with openHAB. Melcloud has so good scheduling/timer, that there hasn't been a real need to setup additional control.

    Uplink has a decent API and openHAB fetches all data this API offers, which I in turn poll with two SiteSensors (altogether getting 16 values) running on Vera Plus. Obviously it would be more convenient to get these values straight from Vera, e.g. with SiteSensor, but it would require a (dedicated) plugin as uplink API authentication is not so trivial to set up.

    Thanks to @therealdb's instructions, I've got two Fibaro smart implants connected to F750 and have Reactor logic to change e.g. ventilation speeds if house is empty or CO2 is rising (Netatmo plugin...). This could also be done through uplink API, but there's two points against it, 1) write access is a paid service, 2) with smart implants there's less dependency on cloud (I prefer local setup/logic as many others here). Downside is that with local (AUX-based) access one can only control 5 functions, e.g. could have 4 ventilation speeds and an increase of hot water temperature (boiler).

    Some additional features in use: when ventilation speed is changed, I use Patrick's excellent Sonos-plugin (TTS announcement) and also send Telegram message (again, thanks to @therealdb) with Reactor.

    All in all, Patrick's (@toggledbits) plugins have kept my home automation running and kept me from migrating to other platforms. Vera is currently running pretty solidly, probably due in part to decouple script (yes, you guessed it, again by Patrick), but some memory leaks have surfaced that have previously been hidden by multiple luup reloads, so have to at least plan a backup plan for target migration. Hubitat could be one alternative.

    Screenshot 2021-03-12 at 11.32.35.png

    Hardware

  • Condition must occur after -restriction not working
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits, can confirm that this build fixed the problem

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  • Unofficial thread for compatibility
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    As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well.

    As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.

    Updates: (the latest versions first in the list)

    • OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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  • Netatmo – Oath2 login
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    @akbooer No it doesn't, see documentation. Openhab is also easy to install as a Docker container, although might be bit of an overkill, if it's used only for Netatmo 😀

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  • Vera firmware 7.32 beta
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    Beta discussion (or more of a silence) doesn't look very promising... and as a banned user cannot participate if I wanted to.

    They don't seem to publish a production release, so I guess I have to bite the bullet and go for the latest beta, but the link given (Vera Plus) in the first post does not work, so anyone know from where to download?

    EDIT: Found beta 4, which seems to be the latest one. I guess this is as solid as Vera can ever be?

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  • MSR newbie first impressions about 1.0.0
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    Had (and still having) extensive logic running smoothly on Reactor for Vera and now I bit the bullet and started migrating to MSR. Excellent work @toggledbits I must say!

    Importing rules works fine and starting to understand differences with the two products. Still, I have a couple of wishes below: (I can write requests directly to MantisBT if these make sense)

    • Telegram notifications, image & video URL support would be nice
    • UI tweak: when there are no unsaved changes, save button background could be grey instead of red
    • UI tweak 2: ability to drag & drop conditions between triggers and constraints
    • UI tweak 3: collapse all / expand all functionality for rule sets
    • UI tweak 4: also in rule sets page, ability to enable / disable all rules in one set with one click
    • UI tweak 5: liking RfV's UI for status and especially when a group's state is true, then it's clearly visible (green background, see example below), could this be replicated for MSR?
      Screenshot 2021-08-06 at 11.45.04.png

    Then a question about entities, is it possible to hide some of them? Having some Vera device "garbage":

    Screenshot 2021-08-06 at 11.49.46.png

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  • Any interest in Groovy programming?
    tunnusT tunnus

    I might have a need to modify some drivers for Hubitat, but can't commit to produce any guides

    How-To

  • Vera firmware 7.32 beta
    tunnusT tunnus

    Did the upgrade to beta 4 and so far so good, everything seems to work ok. Decoupling also in use. Btw, after fw upgrade, is it necessary to disable nightly heal again, although I had it disabled?

    luup.attr_set("EnableNightlyHeal",0,0)
    

    Eventually, and especially if Vera fails, I'm also going to migrate to Hubitat (Elevation).

    Vera

  • Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays
    tunnusT tunnus

    Hyvää Joulua ja Onnellista Uutta Vuotta 2022! (from Finland 🙂 )

    General Discussion

  • Expressions and LuaXP Functions
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits any chance we'll see strftime function coming up "soon"? Or advice how to implement the same with lexpjs (when you have unix timestamp, RfV example below)?

    strftime("%H:%M %d/%m/%y", <timestamp> )

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  • Condition must occur after -restriction
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    @toggledbits okay, that was a bit badly formed that R4V RS = MSR rule set. Also, don't get me wrong that I would be driving a full parity of these two products.

    I raised this up because I think in this case R4V implementation provides more value for the user, and one (at least me 🙂 ) could create more flexible automations if this "only after" restriction could reference other rules at least in the same rule set, if not even broader scale.

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  • Updated to latest MSR 21243 and no entities are being executed I Hubitat
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    @tunnus said in Updated to latest MSR 21243 and no entities are being executed I Hubitat:

    @matteburk could check this post, although you probably have some other issue

    Well, it turned out you had the same issue

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  • Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits Better?

    Screenshot 2021-09-17 at 13.46.02.png

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  • Rule for devices battery level ?
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits thanks Patrick! Works nicely

    Screenshot 2021-10-05 at 16.40.49.png

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  • What notification system is best?
    tunnusT tunnus

    @andr Telegram. No regrets

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  • Reactor log timestamps
    tunnusT tunnus

    Logs seem to use UTC +0

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  • Suppressing alerts in HTTP Request actions
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits ok, fair enough.

    For me a more usable feature would be if one could suppress all errors related to a specific HTTP-connection (timeout etc), as I'm then implementing notification logic if one particular rule is important enough.

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  • [solved] Ordering of global expressions
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    @toggledbits can confirm that the fix is working (tested with 21297)

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