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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
therealdbT
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The reaction stopped working (Google Nest max playing a video)
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Do you Matter?
akbooerA
Is anyone using the Matter protocol to connect devices?
General Discussion
Caution: zwave-js-ui docker 11.4.0 is broken
toggledbitsT
About 20 hours ago, the author of zwave-js-ui posted build 11.4.0 of that product, and it contains an error and won't start (at all) under docker. The author is aware and working on a fix. In the meanwhile, stick with 11.3.1 or earlier. Ref: Issue 4401
Software
Shelly Wall Display XL
therealdbT
I don't know if you guys are into dashboards, but I am. For a second home I tried the Shelly Wall Display 2, and while not so big, it worked well over the summer. Since we're remodeling our house, I just swapped my old Fire Tablet (with its own problems) with two new Shelly Wall Display XL. I just removed the standard firmware, and I added mine (https://github.com/dbochicchio/ShellyElevate), forked from https://github.com/RapierXbox/ShellyElevate I just managed to support buttons (this thing has 4 of them) and it's all auto-discovered by Home Assistant and accessible via Reactor. I also have a new build in the works with support for buttons inside HA. I added a bonus Javascript interface sending events (screen/screensaver status, buttons, motion) to automatically drive the dashboard (all doing in HTML+Javascript and monitoring Reactor's variable). This specifical thing excluded, go get one of them, the device has a decent CPU for HA dashboards and blends wonderfully in the decor.
Hardware
Handling Dead Entities and Renamed Entities
PablaP
Hello all.. been a minute! I recently rebuilt my Z wave network and migrated to a new z wave stick. In order to prevent any downtime I kept my original z wave network up and ran a docker version of Z Wave JS UI with my new controller. This way I could add device by device without having any devices down. I finally moved all the devices over to my new stick today. The final step was to migrate everything from my Docker instance of Z Wave JS UI to the HA add-on of Z Wave JS UI. However during this migration some of the names didn't populate correctly which I later managed to import back into Z Wave JS UI. The issue was in Reactor it is stuck on the default names and the entities are not updating. I removed the controller from Reactor, restarted, hard refreshed, and added the controller back however the new entity names have not updated. Also it seems like the old entities from my previous instance of Z Wave JS UI are lingering and not being marked as dead (I believe a certain amount of time needs to lapse before they're marked as dead in Reactor). My goal is to basically purge all the entities for the 'ZWaveJS' controller in Reactor so it can pull all the updated entity names and only the entities that exist in Z Wave JS UI. I cannot find a quick way to do this, I know entities can be deleted one by one, but with over 100 entities this would take long I am guessing that if I added the controller with a new name in in the Reactor config it would pull the updated entities and names but I think that would break my rules since the entity IDs would change (I made sure to name all the entities the exact same as they were previously to prevent this issue).
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Strange behavior for MQTT templates using payload and attributes
therealdbT
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[MSR] reactor-mqtt-contrib package for additional MQTT templates
therealdbT
I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only). Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package: https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go. I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them. The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression. Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests
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HA 2025.9.4 Supported Yet?
CatmanV2C
Tangentially did I miss 2025.9.4 getting blessed in MSR? I've been holding off Cheers C
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Rule Set UI bug - RESOLVED
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[Reactor] Copy&Paste of Rules
therealdbT
I don't know if I'm the only one, but managing more than one Reactor installs, the need to have some sort of copy&paste for rules has grown on me. While I understand the technical challenges, I'm wondering if a "god mode" where I could copy the raw JSON rule and paste it into another rule could be an advanced, flag only feature that could benefit power users. I know I can copy the JSON file and proceed, but I must stop Reactor and when doing maintenance, it's more clicks to do. Just an idea
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[Reactor] Help with screne controller cycling logic
therealdbT
I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically. That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button. Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF. The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule. Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Expose MSR entities
CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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Comment in Globa Expressions
Tom_DT
I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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Little Bobby tables...
CatmanV2C
...is back.... https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/08/researchers-use-calendar-events-to-hack-gemini-control-smart-home-gadgets/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=null&fbclid=IwY2xjawMBq-pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlSqIalzbz1IxcJFzlw8GBE6nC3FwvxcHgR370nJhogU6JjqbmRxG-lysqgh_aem_lx9XboYFKw9tpHnedGQKUA C
General Discussion
Home Assistant Voice TTS is Easy
toggledbitsT
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Play Audio through Home Assistant Voice Unit
toggledbitsT
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Home Assistant Voice
CatmanV2C
Has anyone had a play with the local voice control for HA? I've got one on order because... https://www.home-assistant.io/voice-pe/ C
Home Assistant
Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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  • Not so quiet around here :)
    tunnusT tunnus

    Got banned quite quickly from Vera/ezlo forum, without any warning. I was kinda asking for it, but still, they could have some sense of humour over there 🙂

    General Discussion

  • About page after every update
    tunnusT tunnus

    Is it by design that about page pops up after every update? Would be nice if verification was needed only once.
    Screenshot 2022-10-19 at 22.54.08.png

    (Running on Synology Docker if that makes any difference.)

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  • HVAC Control
    tunnusT tunnus

    I've got pretty "interesting" setup on HVAC. I have two heat pumps, a Mitsubishi model that can be controlled through their Melcloud-service, and Nibe F750 which also has a cloud service (Nibe uplink). For both of these I have openHAB bindings (running these on Synology NAS), and with Mitsubishi I'm only currently fetching some data and not really controlling it with openHAB. Melcloud has so good scheduling/timer, that there hasn't been a real need to setup additional control.

    Uplink has a decent API and openHAB fetches all data this API offers, which I in turn poll with two SiteSensors (altogether getting 16 values) running on Vera Plus. Obviously it would be more convenient to get these values straight from Vera, e.g. with SiteSensor, but it would require a (dedicated) plugin as uplink API authentication is not so trivial to set up.

    Thanks to @therealdb's instructions, I've got two Fibaro smart implants connected to F750 and have Reactor logic to change e.g. ventilation speeds if house is empty or CO2 is rising (Netatmo plugin...). This could also be done through uplink API, but there's two points against it, 1) write access is a paid service, 2) with smart implants there's less dependency on cloud (I prefer local setup/logic as many others here). Downside is that with local (AUX-based) access one can only control 5 functions, e.g. could have 4 ventilation speeds and an increase of hot water temperature (boiler).

    Some additional features in use: when ventilation speed is changed, I use Patrick's excellent Sonos-plugin (TTS announcement) and also send Telegram message (again, thanks to @therealdb) with Reactor.

    All in all, Patrick's (@toggledbits) plugins have kept my home automation running and kept me from migrating to other platforms. Vera is currently running pretty solidly, probably due in part to decouple script (yes, you guessed it, again by Patrick), but some memory leaks have surfaced that have previously been hidden by multiple luup reloads, so have to at least plan a backup plan for target migration. Hubitat could be one alternative.

    Screenshot 2021-03-12 at 11.32.35.png

    Hardware

  • Condition must occur after -restriction not working
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits, can confirm that this build fixed the problem

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  • Unofficial thread for compatibility
    tunnusT tunnus

    As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well.

    As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.

    Updates: (the latest versions first in the list)

    • OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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  • Netatmo – Oath2 login
    tunnusT tunnus

    @akbooer No it doesn't, see documentation. Openhab is also easy to install as a Docker container, although might be bit of an overkill, if it's used only for Netatmo 😀

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • Vera firmware 7.32 beta
    tunnusT tunnus

    Beta discussion (or more of a silence) doesn't look very promising... and as a banned user cannot participate if I wanted to.

    They don't seem to publish a production release, so I guess I have to bite the bullet and go for the latest beta, but the link given (Vera Plus) in the first post does not work, so anyone know from where to download?

    EDIT: Found beta 4, which seems to be the latest one. I guess this is as solid as Vera can ever be?

    Vera

  • MSR newbie first impressions about 1.0.0
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    Had (and still having) extensive logic running smoothly on Reactor for Vera and now I bit the bullet and started migrating to MSR. Excellent work @toggledbits I must say!

    Importing rules works fine and starting to understand differences with the two products. Still, I have a couple of wishes below: (I can write requests directly to MantisBT if these make sense)

    • Telegram notifications, image & video URL support would be nice
    • UI tweak: when there are no unsaved changes, save button background could be grey instead of red
    • UI tweak 2: ability to drag & drop conditions between triggers and constraints
    • UI tweak 3: collapse all / expand all functionality for rule sets
    • UI tweak 4: also in rule sets page, ability to enable / disable all rules in one set with one click
    • UI tweak 5: liking RfV's UI for status and especially when a group's state is true, then it's clearly visible (green background, see example below), could this be replicated for MSR?
      Screenshot 2021-08-06 at 11.45.04.png

    Then a question about entities, is it possible to hide some of them? Having some Vera device "garbage":

    Screenshot 2021-08-06 at 11.49.46.png

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  • Any interest in Groovy programming?
    tunnusT tunnus

    I might have a need to modify some drivers for Hubitat, but can't commit to produce any guides

    How-To

  • Vera firmware 7.32 beta
    tunnusT tunnus

    Did the upgrade to beta 4 and so far so good, everything seems to work ok. Decoupling also in use. Btw, after fw upgrade, is it necessary to disable nightly heal again, although I had it disabled?

    luup.attr_set("EnableNightlyHeal",0,0)
    

    Eventually, and especially if Vera fails, I'm also going to migrate to Hubitat (Elevation).

    Vera

  • Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays
    tunnusT tunnus

    Hyvää Joulua ja Onnellista Uutta Vuotta 2022! (from Finland 🙂 )

    General Discussion

  • Expressions and LuaXP Functions
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits any chance we'll see strftime function coming up "soon"? Or advice how to implement the same with lexpjs (when you have unix timestamp, RfV example below)?

    strftime("%H:%M %d/%m/%y", <timestamp> )

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  • Condition must occur after -restriction
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    @toggledbits okay, that was a bit badly formed that R4V RS = MSR rule set. Also, don't get me wrong that I would be driving a full parity of these two products.

    I raised this up because I think in this case R4V implementation provides more value for the user, and one (at least me 🙂 ) could create more flexible automations if this "only after" restriction could reference other rules at least in the same rule set, if not even broader scale.

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  • Updated to latest MSR 21243 and no entities are being executed I Hubitat
    tunnusT tunnus

    @tunnus said in Updated to latest MSR 21243 and no entities are being executed I Hubitat:

    @matteburk could check this post, although you probably have some other issue

    Well, it turned out you had the same issue

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  • Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits Better?

    Screenshot 2021-09-17 at 13.46.02.png

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  • Rule for devices battery level ?
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits thanks Patrick! Works nicely

    Screenshot 2021-10-05 at 16.40.49.png

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  • What notification system is best?
    tunnusT tunnus

    @andr Telegram. No regrets

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  • Reactor log timestamps
    tunnusT tunnus

    Logs seem to use UTC +0

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  • Suppressing alerts in HTTP Request actions
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits ok, fair enough.

    For me a more usable feature would be if one could suppress all errors related to a specific HTTP-connection (timeout etc), as I'm then implementing notification logic if one particular rule is important enough.

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  • [solved] Ordering of global expressions
    tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits can confirm that the fix is working (tested with 21297)

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