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Local expression in Rule does not evaluate as they used to do
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Notice to Docker + ARM Users (RPi 3/4/5 and others)
toggledbitsT
This post does not apply to users of Intel/AMD-based systems. If you are using a Reactor image tagged latest-amd64 or stable-amd64, then this post does not apply to you. It also does not apply to bare-metal installs; it's for users of docker images on ARM-based systems only (principally Raspberry Pi hosts, but could be others). After January 15, 2026, I will no longer produce the aarch64-tagged docker image for Reactor. The ARM images will be arm64 for 64-bit operating systems, and armv7l for 32-bit operating systems. For those of you running a container from the aarch64 image today, this will be a relatively simple change: you just need to switch the image used for your docker container to a differently-tagged image. If you are using docker-compose, then this is a relatively simple matter of changing the image line in your docker-compose.yaml file and then stopping (docker-compose down) and restarting (docker-compose up -d) your Reactor daemon. But there's a catch... not all of you can safely just switch from the aarch64 image to the arm64 image. And, you can't just trust the output of uname -m, for example, because this exposes the CPU architecture, but not the word size of the OS running on that CPU. For Raspberry Pi systems, the transition to 64-bit operating systems was long (starting in 2016) and not always obvious — although there was a first "official" 64-bit OS for RPis in 2020, it did not become a default recommendation in the Raspberry Pi Imager until 2021, and then that was only the default for Pi 3/4 systems with >4GB RAM; it was 2022 before it was universally recommended for all 64-bit CPUs regardless of RAM size. Depending on when you first imaged your RPi system and what default you may have been offered/chosen, you could today easily have a 64-bit CPU Raspberry Pi running a 32-bit version of the operating system. Upgrades along the way would not change this; changing it to fully 64-bit requires a full reimage of the system. To establish if your OS is 64- or 32-bit, log in to your Pi and run: sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH. If the response is arm64 or aarch64, then you are running a 64-bit OS and you should use the arm64-tagged image. If it's anything else, you are running a 32-bit OS, and you should use the armv7l-tagged image. pi@rpi4-1:~ $ sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH armhf pi@rpi4-1:~ $ uname -m aarch64 pi@rpi4-1:~ $ In the example above, the uname command reports that the CPU is 64-bit architecture (aarch64), which is true for the host on which I ran these commands, but the DEB_HOST_ARCH value is armhf, indicating a 32-bit operating system. This system has to use the armv7l-tagged image. Other systems will have their own ways of determining the word size of the running OS. Since the majority of Reactor users running ARM systems are on Raspberry Pis, I am able to supply the above instructions, but if you happen to have a different ARM system, you'll need to do some web searching to figure out how to expose that information. Or, you can just try the arm64 image, and if it doesn't start up, try the armv7l image. Remember to always back up your system before making any changes. For everyone, please make this change as soon as possible, and if you have any trouble finding a working image, please (1) go back to the current aarch64 image; and (2) let me know in this thread along with as much detail about your host system as you can offer (including the output of the dpkg-architecture command mentioned above).
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Requesting a proper ARM64/aarch64 Docker image (Pi 5 support)
M
Hi, I'm in the process of migrating from a Raspberry Pi 4 (ARMv7) to a Raspberry Pi 5 (ARMv8/aarch64), but I’ve run into an issue: there is no proper ARMv8/aarch64 image available. None of the existing images run on the Pi 5 - they all exit immediately with code 139 (segmentation fault), which typically indicates that the binaries inside the image are not compatible with the ARM64/aarch64 architecture used by the Pi 5. Would it be possible to publish a correct ARMv8/aarch64 (linux/arm64) image? Building one should be relatively straightforward using docker buildx with multi-arch support. For example, my own Node.js images are built this way: docker buildx build --push \ -t <localrepo>/<project>:<tag> \ --platform=linux/arm64,linux/amd64 \ --file ./apps/<project>/Dockerfile . This produces both the AMD64 and ARM64/v8 variants automatically. Also, as a side note, it may be best to avoid using Alpine as the base image for the ARM64 build, since musl-based builds often cause compatibility issues and unnecessary headaches. A glibc-based base image (e.g., Debian or Ubuntu) tends to work far more reliably on ARM64, especially for Node.js applications. @toggledbits - tagging you in case you missed this. Thanks, mgvra
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Script action and custom timers
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Sorry to write here without trying, but I’m flying today. Am I correct if i say that script action with alarm() makes it possible to execute a reaction in a given interval, lets say 15 seconds or 3.5 minutes? That sounds amazing, since I’ve used weird tricks, including a custom controller, just to do this.
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Help resolve change in behaviour post update
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Reactor w/HA 2025.11 error on set_datetime service call setting only time
CrilleC
@toggledbits Do you know if this is related to that PR or is it a change they made in 2025.11.1? [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.319Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag with { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.320Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "10:45", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": (null) }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_dag" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984320<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "10:45" }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"10:45","datetime":null,"timestamp":null},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_dag"},"id":1762866984320} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 0 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 1 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt with { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "03:00", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": 0 }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_natt" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984323<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"03:00","datetime":null,"timestamp":0},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_natt"},"id":1762866984323} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 1 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 2 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> all actions completed.
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Reactor Version 25310 : Office Light control via rule in reactor no longer working since last update.
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Hello, I currently have an office light (connected via a Leviton Zwave Dimmer switch) controlled from a Gen5 Aeotech Zwave switch installed on my Synology 720+ NAS. I run HA(2025.11.10) in a virtual machine from my NAS and Reactor on the container manager of the same NAS. Prior to updating to 25304 the rule I had set to turn the light on to a specific dimming value worked correctly. Now the rule appears to follow the decision tree, however the reaction does not trigger setting the dimming or turning on the office light? Strangely I can still turn the light on and off as well as dim it directly from HASS..? I have tried using the ''try this action'' button in the rules reaction setting and it will not control the light and does not throw an error flagÉ Please help, P.S Reactor has been rock steady for me over the last few years and I'm a big fan of this solution.
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I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only). Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package: https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go. I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them. The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression. Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests
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Issues installing MSR on Debian 10 Linux

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    cw-kid
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    #4

    Just checked my Raspberry Pi that is running the live version of MSR currently and that is node version 12.22.0

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      Hi

      I bought a cheap HP T520 Thin Client machine with an SSD to run MSR on, rather than running it on my Rpi with SD card etc where it is located currently.

      I installed node js It says I have version 10.24.0 of node js installed.

      When I run this command to test MSR "node app.js" it says:

      "Error: This application requires nodejs 12.20.1 or higher"

      I have run "apt update" command and it says all packages are up to date, so I am not sure how to increase the version number of node js on this Debian install ?

      Any tips ?

      Thanks

      EDIT:

      I followed this guide here the PPA section, now node is showing as version 12.22.1

      I can now acceess MSR in the web browser.

      So just need to figure out how to make MSR auto start on boot under Debian 10 Buster.

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      #5

      @cw-kid said in Issues installing MSR on Debian 10 Linux:

      So just need to figure out how to make MSR auto start on boot under Debian 10 Buster.

      Here's a sample service configuration for systemd. You would modify and place this file in (typically) /etc/systemd/system/reactor.service.

      [Unit]
      Description=Multi System Reactor
      After=network.target
      
      [Service]
      Type=simple
      User=patrick
      WorkingDirectory=/home/patrick/Documents/reactor
      ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/node app -p
      Restart=on-failure
      RestartSec=5s
      
      [Install]
      WantedBy=multi-user.target
      

      The key things you need to modify are the User value (do not run Reactor as root), the WorkingDirectory (path to the Reactor install directory), and ExecStart for the correct path to your node executable.

      Then run the following commands:

      sudo systemctl daemon-reload    # tells systemd the config has changed
      sudo systemctl enable reactor   # tells systemd to start the service at boot
      sudo systemctl start reactor    # tells systemd to start the service now
      

      Also since you've just installed/upgraded nodejs, don't forget to run npm i --no-save in your Reactor install directory before starting Reactor.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      • toggledbitsT toggledbits

        If your platform doesn't offer a more current nodejs, you'll have to download nodejs directly and install it using their documentation for Linux installs.

        Note: To avoid confusion, remove the nodejs and npm packages you installed before downloading and installing.

        Note 2: You really should go to node 14.15 or higher. I'm going to remove support for 12 before release this summer.

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        @toggledbits said in Issues installing MSR on Debian 10 Linux:

        To avoid confusion, remove the nodejs and npm packages you installed before downloading and installing.

        OK thanks that's helpful about running it as a service, but I am not that far along yet I don't think.

        Now need to uninstall node js and the npm packages and then install the 14.x node js version etc.

        Which I am not sure how to uninstall things yet.

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          OK I think I have uninstalled everything using these commands:

          apt remove nodejs

          apt autoremove

          I've downloaded the x86 64bit Linux version of node js and I am looking at installing that one instead now.

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            #8

            It looks like the PPA link you gave recommends adding a package repository and installing them via apt, so uninstall should just be:

            sudo apt remove nodejs npm

            Those PPA instructions also tell you how to get the version you want.

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            • toggledbitsT toggledbits

              It looks like the PPA link you gave recommends adding a package repository and installing them via apt, so uninstall should just be:

              sudo apt remove nodejs npm

              Those PPA instructions also tell you how to get the version you want.

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              @toggledbits said in Issues installing MSR on Debian 10 Linux:

              sudo apt remove nodejs npm

              Bit late to run that command:

               apt remove nodejs npm
              Reading package lists... Done
              Building dependency tree
              Reading state information... Done
              Package 'npm' is not installed, so not removed
              Package 'nodejs' is not installed, so not removed
              0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
              

              I think the commands I ran earlier have removed things but I still see a .npm folder in my home folder.

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              I am working out now how to install the later 14.x version of node js.

              EDIT:

              I installed again using the PPA method and just changed the curl command to use the 14.x

              curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_14.x -o nodesource_setup.sh
              

              I now have node version 14.17.0 installed.

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                #10

                Don't forget to complete the Reactor install instructions here: https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/Installation/#new-install-linux-various-bare-metal-without-docker

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                  Don't forget to complete the Reactor install instructions here: https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/Installation/#new-install-linux-various-bare-metal-without-docker

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                  @toggledbits

                  OK making some progress slowly. I now have MSR up and running automatically after a system reboot.

                  And I am on node js version 14.17.0

                  Now to copy everything from my Rpi installation to the new HP Thin Client installation to get all my rules moved over.

                  I assume I can just copy the entire reactor folder from one machine to the other.

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                    You just need config and storage subfolders. It won't hurt to copy everything, but it's overkill.

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      OK many thanks.

                      Just looking at setting a static LAN IP first on the new HP thin client box.

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                        Probably a good idea to make sure you have NTP running on the box as well (network time).

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                          Probably a good idea to make sure you have NTP running on the box as well (network time).

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                          @toggledbits said in Issues installing MSR on Debian 10 Linux:

                          NTP running on the box

                          OK I'll have to look in to how to do that then also.

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                            @cw-kid, yeah it takes a little googling to set up and brand new debian OS but I am sure you will get there. I went through the same thing setting up my T640. Debian takes a little bit more work than ubuntu which has a lot of these setup by default.

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                              Probably a good idea to make sure you have NTP running on the box as well (network time).

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                              @toggledbits

                              I'm reading this article about Debian and time here.

                              The date and time is currently set correctly:

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                              "By default, Debian 10 runs the standard ntpd server to keep your system time synchronized with a pool of external time servers. We can check that it’s running with the systemctl command:"

                              sudo systemctl status ntp
                              

                              When I run this command in Putty it says:

                              Unit ntp.service could not be found.
                              

                              It goes on to say "To get more information about the status of ntpd we can use the ntpq command:"

                              ntpq -p
                              

                              I get the response:

                              -bash: ntpq: command not found
                              

                              So maybe its not currently installed on my installation.

                              its only a 16GB SSD in the HP Thin Client, so I don't have a desktop environment installed only SSH server etc.

                              I will look at installing this ntpd service next.

                              EDIT:

                              Ran this command to install it:

                              apt-get install ntp
                              

                              Now the above commands are working.

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                              • rafale77R rafale77

                                @cw-kid, yeah it takes a little googling to set up and brand new debian OS but I am sure you will get there. I went through the same thing setting up my T640. Debian takes a little bit more work than ubuntu which has a lot of these setup by default.

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                                @rafale77

                                Hi, well I bought the HP T520 Thin Client because of what you said to me previously. It was cheap enough from eBay.

                                I had some issues with the power supply however as it didn't come with one.
                                I did have a spare suitably spec'd laptop power supply, but it had the wrong DC connector plug on the end of it.

                                So I ordered the correct "DC Tip 7.4x5.0mm Power Plug Socket Connector" off eBay and cut the other one off and soldered the new one on.

                                However the HP Thin Client was not turning on, no power nothing at all and totally dead.

                                I then read that you have to use a genuine HP power supply, as they have some kind of checking so that the thin clients won't power on if you are using a 3rd party power supply.

                                Corporate Greed !

                                I then found an article about hacking the unit and soldering in a 240K resister on the back of the power input jack and I did this today and amazingly it worked and the thin client powered on.

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                                One thing I can't figure out how to do yet is to update the BIOS without having one of their supported OS installed.

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                                  Hi, well I bought the HP T520 Thin Client because of what you said to me previously. It was cheap enough from eBay.

                                  I had some issues with the power supply however as it didn't come with one.
                                  I did have a spare suitably spec'd laptop power supply, but it had the wrong DC connector plug on the end of it.

                                  So I ordered the correct "DC Tip 7.4x5.0mm Power Plug Socket Connector" off eBay and cut the other one off and soldered the new one on.

                                  However the HP Thin Client was not turning on, no power nothing at all and totally dead.

                                  I then read that you have to use a genuine HP power supply, as they have some kind of checking so that the thin clients won't power on if you are using a 3rd party power supply.

                                  Corporate Greed !

                                  I then found an article about hacking the unit and soldering in a 240K resister on the back of the power input jack and I did this today and amazingly it worked and the thin client powered on.

                                  alt text

                                  alt text

                                  One thing I can't figure out how to do yet is to update the BIOS without having one of their supported OS installed.

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                                  @cw-kid

                                  I don't have this exact model but... my HP desktops all have the ability to update the BIOS from within the UEFI BIOS. Have you tried that? Sorry for the song and dance on the power supply. I never encountered this since I always got power bricks with the ones I bought and I actually have spare power supplies... Great soldering job though!

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                                    I don't have this exact model but... my HP desktops all have the ability to update the BIOS from within the UEFI BIOS. Have you tried that? Sorry for the song and dance on the power supply. I never encountered this since I always got power bricks with the ones I bought and I actually have spare power supplies... Great soldering job though!

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                                    @rafale77

                                    There is an option in the BIOS menu to update / flash the BIOS but when I click OK on it, it says:

                                    "Can not find bios update interface"

                                    I've not really looked in to it properly yet as I was keen to get MSR up and running first.

                                    From the quick Google searches I did, most suggested you need to have one of the HP supported operating systems installed to be able to update the BIOS.

                                    But there must be some work around some how. I need to read in to it more.

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                                      @toggledbits I copied over the storage and config folder contents from the Rpi to the HP Thin Client and then restarted MSR on the thin client.

                                      I did edit the base URL in the Reactor.yaml file.

                                      I've stopped the MSR service on the Rpi so now the thin client is the only one running..

                                      None of my scheduled rulesets based around sunset have run their actions this evening for some reason.

                                      The time shown in the top of the MSR Web GUI is the correct time.

                                      So seems I need to look into this further.

                                      There is another schedule up coming, the garden lights should turn on 20 minutes after sunset, that is in about 20 minutes time from now, so will see if that happens?

                                      EDIT:

                                      These are the before sunset rules that the other rules reference in their triggers.

                                      20 and 40 minutes before sunset, not sure why both say true as of the same time at 20:48pm.

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                                      The after sunset 20 minutes rule says:

                                      waiting for 21:21:00

                                      Its now 21:25pm and my garden lights have NOT turned on, so something not right here.

                                      This is the summary card for the rule that turns on the garden lights:

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                                        Not sure which rule this is, but I am seeing several errors in the log like these:

                                        2021-05-15T19:48:14.906Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:957> Rule#rule-km50yfxo._evaluate() mutex acquired, evaluating
                                        2021-05-15T19:48:14.907Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:961> Rule#rule-km50yfxo update rate is 1/min limit 60/min
                                        2021-05-15T19:48:14.908Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:883> Rule#rule-km50yfxo evaluateExpressions() with 0 expressions
                                        2021-05-15T19:48:14.910Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:973> Rule#rule-km50yfxo._evaluate() trigger state now true (was true)
                                        2021-05-15T19:48:14.911Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1351> Rule#rule-km50yfxo cond cond5hu03sp timer schedule 1621119600000<16/05/2021, 00:00:00>
                                        2021-05-15T19:48:14.913Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:975> Rule#rule-km50yfxo._evaluate() constraints state false
                                        2021-05-15T19:48:14.913Z <Rule:null> Rule#rule-km50yfxo rule state now false, changed no
                                        2021-05-15T19:48:14.915Z <Rule:CRIT> Error: EACCES: permission denied, open '/home/stuart/reactor/storage/states/cs-rule-km50yfxo.json'
                                        Error: EACCES: permission denied, open '/home/stuart/reactor/storage/states/cs-rule-km50yfxo.json'
                                            at Object.openSync (fs.js:498:3)
                                            at Object.writeFileSync (fs.js:1524:35)
                                            at IndividualFileStrategy.saveDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:137:29)
                                            at Container.saveDataObject (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:94:54)
                                            at Data.save (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Data.js:152:49)
                                            at Rule._evaluate (/home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:985:365)
                                            at runMicrotasks (<anonymous>)
                                            at processTicksAndRejections (internal/process/task_queues.js:95:5)
                                            at async /home/stuart/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:940:17
                                        

                                        Think something may have gone wrong with copying over the stuff from the Pi.

                                        This is that folder in WinSCP on the HP Thin Client.

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                                        I installed MSR as a none root user aka as my own username name. But these rule set files most are saying root as the owner.

                                        I was logged in to WinSCP as root user when I did the copy so maybe that is why.

                                        If I try logging in to WinSCP as my username instead of root and then doing the copy again from the Pi to the Thin Client it doesn't work and I don't seem to have the permissions to do it.

                                        dbec463b-855f-4275-9ec9-ff782ac1ee61-image.png

                                        If instead I try to change the group and owner of a file from root to my username I can't do that either:

                                        d1b0a698-aff6-4e8d-8ef8-e75642c2e85f-image.png

                                        So I am stuck now and don't know what to do.....

                                        OK I logged back in to WinSCP as root and now I can change all the files their group and owner from root to my own user name. I have done that now for all of them.

                                        So hopefully that fixes the problem? Will have to wait for later schedules to happen later this evening to see.

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                                          A scheduled rule set just ran actually and turned on the RGBW light strip in the kitchen, so think it's working now.

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