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Hello!
I want to trigger an event (like switching on a smart Zigbee power plug) when a regular light switch (that switches regular non-smart LED light bulbs) is flipped. Is there something I can put behind a light switch to achieve this? Or something to splice in between the switch and the light bulbs? A good option would also be Hue compatible.
Thank you!
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Hi,
Is anyone aware of any way in which Bluetooth devices can be connected and controlled via a home automation controller, such as Vera / openluup (even NodeRed, HASS) etc ?
I recall Bluetooth was an original ‘feature’ on the Veraplus but that soon died a death, and was never heard of again.
What, if anything are people doing with Bluetooth ?
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Hi,
I have a lua/luup piece of code that checks, if any motion sensors have been tripped within the last 20 mins, and if not then to let me know.
I then look at pinging TVs to see if they are on, in order to help rule out if someone’s just sitting still, and then I look at bluetooth sensors (RoomMe) and also Wi-Fi devices (UniFi) to help identify specific people’s active devices.
I know there’s no perfect solution, but I was wondering what are other people using ?
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Considering how long I’ve been using HA systems, where I was a relatively early adopter of z-wave, I’ve never really explored the Z-Wave Classes and Commands.
Don’t get me wrong I understand (well at least I think I do) the overall objective and the design of the classes and the command, but my exposure to it has always been hidden behind a software/application layer.. No bad thing your might say, but the more I got to know the Lua language , the more I wanted to know more about the Z-wave Classes and Command - and how I could interact with them a little more directly.
FYI - I’m still very much in the learning phase, and welcome any insight/advice from those more experienced than me.
For this particular ‘How To’, I’m going to start off with a link to all the recorded z-wave classes and commands, this is a great place to see the length and breadth of what z-wave supports.
https://www.silabs.com/documents/login/miscellaneous/SDS13548-List-of-defined-Z-Wave-Command-Classes.xlsxMy first objective is to see if I can request a battery report from a device.. (Make sure your device support this class)
To do that I need to look up the Commands_Class for Battery, and note down it’s associated value, which in this case is 0x80
COMMAND_CLASS_BATTERY 0x80 Management ActiveAfter that, I then need to get the value associated with the specific command I want to send, which in this case is the Battery Get one from the following list..
BATTERY_GET 0x02 controlling supporting BATTERY_REPORT 0x03 supporting controlling BATTERY_HEALTH_GET 0x04 controlling supporting BATTERY_HEALTH_REPORT 0x05 supporting controllingThose two looks up have now provided me with the following two item values …
Battery Command Class = 0x80 BATTERY_HEALTH_GET Command = 0x04Next I need to send them to my Vera/Z-wave controller , specifying the z-wave ‘node’ I want to target (make sure it is the node number (alt.I’d, NOT the Device No.) , which in this case is node 3 (device no. 64) - using a command like the following....
luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='3',Data='0x80 0x04'},1)Or externally..
http://192.168.1.10/port_3480/data_request?id=action&DeviceNum=1&serviceId=urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1&action=SendData&Node=3&Data=0x80-0x04Any/all feedback welcome..
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Hi
I came across this a while ago, but couldn’t get it to work at the time, however I was just checking it again, and noticed openluup was mentioned in some of the code, so I was wondering, is anyone on this forum using it ?
GitHub - steets250/vera-ring: Plugin allowing Vera controllers to connect with Ring devices. GitHub - steets250/vera-ring: Plugin allowing Vera controllers to connect with Ring devices.Plugin allowing Vera controllers to connect with Ring devices. - GitHub - steets250/vera-ring: Plugin allowing Vera controllers to connect with Ring devices.
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So I live out in a rural area and there are no good internet providers besides Hughesnet, or using a mobile hotspot. My question is can you have a home network witha hub nut no wifi? I mainly would just want a few smart light switches, maybe a RGB Phillips HUE light here and there, and maybe even a camarea to watch my driveway and send me alerts when someone is there (while I'm there obviously) because we can't see our driveway from our living room. Was just curious to see if this would be possible or not. Our Verizon mobile hotspot works great while we are able to monitor it but sometimes it randomly shuts off even when it is plugged in. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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A while back the z-wave module on my veraplus stopped working and as it couldnt be fixed, I bought an external usb z-wave dongle UZB1 (which I plugged in and setup on ‘port’ /dev/ttyACM0 ) which made it operational again, and I’ve been using it again since.
Recently I picked up a new (well 2nd hand) VeraPlus unit and tried to do a full system/zwave network restore from the original one, but it didn’t work.
The restore looked like it worked fine, as it brought everything over, but when nothing worked, I checked the z-wave ‘port’ settings on the new unit, and it too had been set to use an external usb (/dev/ttyACM0) which it obviously doesn’t have , but when I changed it back to the onboard zwave module (/dev/ttyS0) all the z-wave devices disappeared.
To fix this, it sounds like I need to do a controller shift to get the details off the UZB1 key and onto the zwave chip on the veraplus board ?
However not having done one before I’m not sure if the process is - any ideas ?
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Alexa Remote Control Shell ScriptI will update the plug-in very soon to support the new feature.
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General discussion on all things MQTT.
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Tried to google, but didn't find a proper solution. Linux environment is chrooted Debian 10 running on Synology NAS.
I created a normal user ("homer") and when trying to su to it with a command "su - homer", it takes about 50 seconds to complete.
Any ideas how to fix this?
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Hi all
I’ve recently started to build out my own ‘Homer’ dashboard (https://github.com/bastienwirtz/homer) and I must admit I really like what it’s given me.
Thinking about future use-cases. I can see potential for this being an alternative (albeit simple ) UI for Vera/OpenLuup..
Is anyone else using Homer ?
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Hi, simple starter question. As I am fully gone to homeassistant for eveything expect a legacy part of my zwave network devices in Vera. I have currently openzwave and vera and an empty (not turned on) zwavejs network. I knwo I can "migrate" openzwave "simply" to zwavejs by just using the aeotec gen5plus zwave stick to that. With the hassle of changing all device entity names I then have zwavejs and vera run separate. Nevertheless, I would like to end up with my vera devices in zwavjes... long story short, what would be the best way to move all my vera devices to zwavjs?
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Hi all
Ran into an issue last month where my Open Luup box ran out of disk space in /var/log. It's Debian with a separate partition so everything carried on working but it had some very interesting effects on my network.Culprit was the z-way server log which was at about 5G....
So I thought I'd set up logrotate on it. Dead simple. And so it seems. Log is rotate just fine but z-way-server carries on writing to the old log. Any ideas how to fix that (apart from re-starting the server every time we rotate?).
Entry from logrotate.d is here:
catman@openluup:/etc/logrotate.d$ cat z-way-server /var/log/z-way-server.log { weekly rotate 4 compress delaycompress missingok notifempty create 644 root root }z-way-server config:
<config> <automation-dir>automation</automation-dir> <log-file>/var/log/z-way-server.log</log-file> <log-level>2</log-level> <debug-port></debug-port> </config> config.xml (END)TIA
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This could be interesting.
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100% sure this is an Alexa issue, but just wanted to see if anyone else has it:
Alexa, turn $device on
$device turns on
'$device is not responding. Check its power supply and network connection'Alexa, turn $device off
$device turns off.
'OK'This happens with Alexa groups as well as HA Bridge devices.....
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Evening, everyone. Can't think of a better qualified bunch of people to ask so: What am I going to replace my Logitech Harmony with?
Logitech have stated they are moving out of the market and I am therefore disinclined to purchase the Elite, never mind the price tag....
Requirements are:
IR control of 5 devices (one of which is somewhat esoteric so learning IR pretty much a necessity) Ability to control HiFi as well as video kit (should be covered by 1 but whatever) Pre-programmed activities for one button access Favourite channels Rechargeable (nice to have) If it needs a computer to set up: Mac compatibleAnyone got a Pronto they'd sell me?
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In my ongoing quest to try and retrieve as much information as I can about the amount of energy I’m using , I found out that I could use SNMP to see how much power (watts) my UPS is handling .
To do this, I installed snmpd/snmp on my Vera linked Raspberry Pi, and then ran the following command.
local command = io.popen("ssh -i /etc/dropbear/dropbear_rsa_host_key pi@192.168.102.37 'snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 1 10.10.10.103' 2>&1") local response = command:read("*a") print(response)Which returned a huge amount of information, which prompted me to ask the community here if there anything on Vera/OpenLuup that people have that can process this sort of information into a new devices and associated variables to then monitor/track going forward ?
iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Eaton 5P 1150" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.2.0 = OID: iso.3.6.1.4.1.705.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0 = Timeticks: (51435090) 5 days, 22:52:30.90 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.4.0 = STRING: "Computer Room Manager" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0 = STRING: "ups239" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.6.0 = STRING: "Computer Room" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.7.0 = INTEGER: 72 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.8.0 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.1 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.2 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.10.3.1.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.3 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.11.3.1.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.4 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.15.2.1.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.2.5 = OID: iso.3.6.1.6.3.16.2.1.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.1 = STRING: "The MIB Module from SNMPv2 entities" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.2 = STRING: "SNMP Management Architecture MIB" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.3 = STRING: "Message Processing and Dispatching MIB" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.4 = STRING: "USM User MIB" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.3.5 = STRING: "VACM MIB" iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.1 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.2 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.3 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.4 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.1.9.1.4.5 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.1.0 = INTEGER: 2 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.1.1 = INTEGER: 1 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.1.2 = INTEGER: 2 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.2.1 = STRING: "LOOPBACK" iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.2.2 = STRING: "eth0" iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.3.1 = INTEGER: 24 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.3.2 = INTEGER: 6 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.4.1 = INTEGER: 1500 iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.4.2 = INTEGER: 1500 etc.... -
Looks like the wasp in the Box has a new competitor, I received this information this morning and am posting it whilst looking for comment - 🙂
Detecting Chest and Abdomen expansion sounds a little to far fetched for me, but I like the idea if it really works.LifeBeing Sensor
Zigbee module & MCU SDK
bacc874e-8dc0-4c49-b24f-631b342e57e0-image.pngState-of-Art Technology
It's based on 5.8Ghz microwave motion detection technology. And the patented low impedance antenna and exclusive occupancy sensing Algorithm are used to sensor human presence by detecting expansion of chest and abdomen during human respiration. Combined, they can effectively avoid the airflow interference from air conditioning and exhaust, to achieve accurate human detection
Multi-state RecognitionIt can interact with different lights, air conditioners, background music, etc. based on the activeness of human motion. For example, lights turned fully on when it detects active human motion
Independent Flush-mounted DesignNot limited to LED lamps and can be well hidden in the existing lighting environment to avoid any damage
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When I stopped calling it a smart home and started calling it a home automation system my waf went up significantly. Go figure.
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Hi all
I’ve been on a mission for a while now to try and track down where all the energy we use is going (so I can explain the exorbitantly high electricity bill !) .
I’ve done a few posts on this subject already, see below..
https://smarthome.community/topic/534/unifi-energy-report-how-can-i-retrieve-the-value-via-http/6 https://smarthome.community/topic/584/luup-hue-energy-watts-calculator/17?_=1623603224863Plus I’ve got various energy meter plugs around the house to help me too, but when compared to my CurrentCost (whole house) energy meter, I’m still unable to account for 200+ watts when i believe everything of note are switch off (so no dishwasher, no washing machine running etc.)
Tracked items so far include.. Media Centre (TV/NAS etc.), Office Desk (Laptop/PC/Monitor etc.), Hue Lights, Fridge…
What items/devices could I be missing ? What else could i create a pseudo energy (watts) calculations for ?For example (2), I‘ve got a couple of Sonos Music players, which are always on, so I’m thinking as they are a media device that report their status, i can calculate a pause/stop watts rating vs a play rating..
Any thoughts on what the missing power hungry items are in a normal house, and/or any new pseudo watt calculator ideas?
The Home Automation Controller Pyramid
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Since one member asked at one point about the "front end" and "back end", I drew this showing the controller from the base to the tip along with what I have found to be the best options from my testing. Almost every controller will try to integrate all elements, especially commercial ones but... they all have strengths and weaknesses so if one can have a medley of the best ones...
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Good picture, but isn't home assistant not also a bit of Front-end?
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You could argue the same for the Z-way, since there the possiblilty to create virtual devices and scenes.
@rafale77 said in The Home Automation Controller Pyramid:
Almost every controller will try to integrate all elements
...so there's bound to be some fuzzy edges.
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The controllers on the drawing are the best ones in that box in my opinion. As I said, almost every controller actually tries to fulfill the pyramid. Home Assistant has a pretty good GUI now though its controls of automation from the GUI is poor and the automation logic itself is pretty incomplete causing some people to run node-red as the front end for Home-Assistant. I run openLuup...
For the Integration layer, I run both Home-Assitant with all its integration component and openLuup and its many vera plugins, manually bridged together.
For the backend, I run z-way into openLuup and Bellows into Home-Assistant.All boxes are important but each box depends on the box below it. As an illustration, when I start my system, I have to start it from bottom to top. When a controller is built and tested, it should be done from bottom to top as well in order to make sense and be effiscient.
The z-way-server also does all three and each API: the zwave API, JS API, Automation API, pretty much corresponds to each of the APIs I drew in order from bottom to top. It is just very good at the bottom layer but not as good as others as you go up the boxes. The best part of vera was the middle box with the community plugins and pretty complete virtual device set and is what openLuup has improved on.
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From my reading of different forums it doesn't look like Homeseer is doing all that great with their HS4 release. So between them and vera going down dead ends, it looks like Z-way and the in beta openzwave-QT will soon be the only contenders for zwave and I would slide in hubitat as third in spite of their lack of S2 support... Pretty sad to see good choices get smaller and smaller.
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I think part of the problem is that there are too many standards to chose from. None of them have a complete offering in terms of the hardware, the big boys have tried to create closed ecosystems (also not complete, or lacking in some other way) and very few (none) of the current offerings are succeeding at supporting the whole shooting match.
Feels like there are no decent devs / architects out there with a focus on a clear end model and some decent funding that's not making bad technical decisions.
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I think also that there is a business problem issue. The controller is absolutely critical and getting the right hardware and software is a lot of work. However they are being sold as a very low cost to attract new customers into the ecosystem while the real business is actually in the devices. The controller is only an enabler. Homeseer was the only one selling theirs at a high price... And then there is open source... Vera tried very hard to differentiate from the rest, attempting self maintenance and trying to get a lot of smart in the zwave management, taking control away from their customers. It tanked because not only was it mostly unnecessary but above all, it was very poorly designed. Let's see how the others do...
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@rafale77 that's a good point.
However, I fear that seeing how the others 'do' is pretty much how they've 'done' I had a X10 system running off a USB 'thing' and Indigo automation software. That was about 15 years ago. If anything it was easier and more reliable than stuff today (let's talk about how my magnetic door sensors don't un trip if you don't have the door open for more than about 3 seconds).
There is a significant difference that I have more money to throw at it than I did then, but progress seems, well, erratic. What do we have? Switches, dimmers and thermostats really.....
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I run QT-openzwave... beta but very steady and very easy! After the holiday it will by bye bye vera... almost all logics are already transferred to home assistant and node-red just some pleg and the "garaga door plugin" running on vera... I moved all problematic devices to QT and since then it's rock solid. Even Vera is fast. And since zwave devices are included (secure) in qt zwave I did not even know they were also so good and fast
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Vera’s zwave is a mess and I’m giving them a compliment.
I still think the idea behind Vera was good, the execution made it what it is. With more attention to details and the ability to really fix bugs, it could have been a good solution.I still want a plug and play solution with easy customization, but maybe we’re just at the beginning and this market needs to reach its peak to become more mainstream.
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The closest to a plug and play local all in one is probably Hubitat at this point but they have their limitations in each area. For a large system with a lot of plugins, it seems like the RAM and CPU on their unit is a limiter.
Home Assistant is also going through some strange strategic changes and is really not plug and play... though that's what they aim towards but the rate of breaking changes and tedious "templating" for automation has me much prefer openLuup at this point. It is a bit of pitching lua vs. python+yaml... -
@rafale77 said in The Home Automation Controller Pyramid:
much prefer openLuup at this point
AT THIS POINT ...?
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haha... yeah and for the foreseeable future. I just started learning a little python because all the machine learning libraries seem to have a python API so it makes things much easier... But for home automation, I for one am way too invested in lua and two, don't see python as being suitable... which is, I am guessing, why Home Assistant has supplemented it with yaml. Gosh and I am not even a coder/developer by trade... I just am enjoying the learning.
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to be fair, ezlo seems to have implemented Zwave (and Zigbee) stack in a modern way. but I'm not convinced at all by their new programming environment. they're adopting an approach very similar to HA's, where you can launch scripts to intercept events, instead of having services always executing. So, openluup it's probably the safest bet in terms of features and stability for luup refugees.
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Vera+Zway+Openluup+my own framework
70+ Zwave Devices, a bunch of ZigBee light strips and a lot of codeMy Plug-ins => https://github.com/dbochicchio/vera (VeraAlexa, OpenSprinkler, Virtual Devices, MQTT and much more)
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and yes, I don't like python neither. I learned LUA quite easily (being a dev for the latest 25 years helped) and I was really tempted to build my own engine running C# (on Linux, it's xplat now thanks to .NET Core) at some point, and move all my logic there, and use some hub just to send ZWave commands. I have already tons of code doing integrations with Vera, MiLight, OpenSprinkler, MQTT running in my own C# service, but it was just for fun.
The real problem is more about building a compelling UI, today, and offer side services (Alexa/GoogleHome, remote access, etc) than anything else.
A couple of friends approached me (because you know, home automation addiction has grown in me) because they wanted to build something and I always told them to not do anything like I did, because it needs maintenance. I dream of a day when we'll get a real plug&play system. We're not there, clearly. -
@therealdb said in The Home Automation Controller Pyramid:
to be fair, ezlo seems to have implemented Zwave (and Zigbee) stack in a modern way.
But what they (appear) to be shipping a beta seems way too immature. When would you think there's a production product? Feels to me like 2021 some time?
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The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....
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@CatmanV2 said in The Home Automation Controller Pyramid:
But what they (appear) to be shipping a beta seems way too immature. When would you think there's a production product? Feels to me like 2021 some time?
yes. current system is barely usable. They are targeting next September, and they can improve fast, because they want to release a new build every 2 weeks. The real problem is their priorities: in order to migrate, you have to unpair and pair again all your devices. It's impossible for me (70+ devices, sometimes buried into boxes I really don't know where, since they were first installed by my electricians when building the house) and for many more people.
The concerning problem is that it's quite impossible for them to have plug-ins ready, because their new runtime is completely different and porting is not easy. But from a Zwave standpoint, they seem to have learned the lesson, by decoupling devices from implementation, and by allowing device definition to be updated separately. We'll see, it's probably too early and a lot of customers will migrate to anything better when the product will be really ready.--
Vera+Zway+Openluup+my own framework
70+ Zwave Devices, a bunch of ZigBee light strips and a lot of codeMy Plug-ins => https://github.com/dbochicchio/vera (VeraAlexa, OpenSprinkler, Virtual Devices, MQTT and much more)
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@therealdb said in The Home Automation Controller Pyramid:
next September
2020 or 2021? 2021 seems more likely. Short sprints only means lots of progress if you're actually capable of writing code. Given the number of recurring issues, this seems something that may be beyond them.
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The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....
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@rafale77 said in The Home Automation Controller Pyramid:
I just started learning a little python because all the machine learning libraries seem to have a python API so it makes things much easier... But for home automation, I for one am way too invested in lua and two, don't see python as being suitable...
My view entirely! Python is a huge language compared to Lua. Its real plus is the vast number of libraries, but the huge minus is the size of the system. Parts of openLuup (the Historian's
graphite_cgimodule, and theWhisperdatabase were translated from Graphite's Python code, so I had to learn it a bit.@CatmanV2 said in The Home Automation Controller Pyramid:
I think part of the problem is that there are too many standards to chose from.
Indeed... always the problem with 'Standards'.
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Indeed... always the problem with 'Standards'.
Of course, we only need one. TCP/IP would do just dandy!
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