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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
R

Hi guys,

Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular.

Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets.

I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.

Multi-System Reactor
Moving MSR from a QNAP container to RP 5 - some issues
Tom_DT

I have installed MSR on a RP5 bare metal and then copied the config and store files. Everything seems to be on the RP5 but I am missing all global expression and I don't see the controller time.

Screenshot 2025-04-06 201446.png

My browser is Microsoft Edge Version 135.0.3179.54 (Official build) (64-bit)

I have probably done something stupid or missed a step but I am stuck.

Thanks for any help.

Multi-System Reactor
Widget deletion does not work and landing page (status) is empy
M

Hi,
It seems that the widget deletion does not work. I tried to drag the widget to the left (as explained in here https://smarthome.community/topic/1071/deleting-widgets?_=1744037333660)
but it does not delete it. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Also the landing page after login is empty and seems be have some JS issues on the dev console:

Screenshot from 2025-04-07 18-06-19.png

fd7f0424-debb-49d3-86d8-9a3b09ad3868-image.png

Using dockerized version of Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25082-3c348de6 on Chromium 135.0.7049.52 (Official Build) snap (64-bit)

br,
mgvra

Multi-System Reactor
Need help reducing false positive notifications
T

Good day all,
I have an notification set up for my washing machine to let me know when it's complete. I have a templete sensor set up in HAAS to let me know if it's Washing, in Standby, or off, based upon the power consumption (Shelly 1PM on outlets)

- name: "Washing Machine" state: > {% if states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float == 0 %} Off {% elif states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float <= 2.9 %} Standby {% else %} Washing {% endif %} icon: > {% if states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power") == "off" %} mdi:washing-machine-alert {% elif states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float <= 2.9 %} mdi:washing-machine-off {% else %} mdi:washing-machine {% endif %} minutes: 2

The MSR code is relatively simple. I have a built in false positive attribute for if MSR gets rebooted, because I would suddenly get tons of notifications when I upgraded MSR.

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What I'm trying to introduce, is a way to verify that I just didn't bump the knob on the washing machine when transferring loads from the washer to the dryer, which turns on the display and brings the power above the Standby threshold.

The power goes up to 3.7W for about 4 minutes if the selector knob is bumped/turned.

What would the best way to do this be? I have most of my MSR code set up for a couple of years now, and my coding logic is struggling a bit.

I think I need a power threshold to be substained for a minimum time period (say 2 or 3 minutes, above 10W), before the other triggers can act. What would the best way to do that be?

Running: latest-25082-3c348de6
Fedora 41 Server
HAAS:
Core
2025.3.4
Supervisor
2025.03.4
Operating System
15.1
Frontend
20250306.0

Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT

Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.

Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Multi-System Reactor
Deleting widgets
tunnusT

Hopefully a trivial question, but how do you delete widgets in a status page? Using build 22266

Multi-System Reactor
MQTT configuration question
tunnusT

I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file

x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }'

While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?

Multi-System Reactor
System Configuration Check - time is offset
F

Hi!

I get this message when I'm on the status tab:

System Configuration Check
The time on this system and on the Reactor host are significantly different. This may be due to incorrect system configuration on either or both. Please check the configuration of both systems. The host reports 2025-04-01T15:29:29.252Z; browser reports 2025-04-01T15:29:40.528Z; difference 11.276 seconds.

I have MSR installed as a docker on my Home Assistant Blue / Hardkernel ODROID-N2/N2+. MSR version is latest-25082-3c348de6.
HA versions are:
Core 2025.3.4
Supervisor 2025.03.4
Operating System 15.1

I have restarted HA as well as MSR multiple times. This message didn´t show two weeks ago. Don´t know if it have anything to do with the latest MSR version.
Do anyone know what I can try?
Thanks in advance!
Let's Be Careful Out There (Hill Street reference...) 🙂
/Fanan

Multi-System Reactor
Programmatically capture HTTP Request action status code or error
therealdbT

I have a very strange situation, where if InfluxDB restarts, other containers may fail when restarting at the same time (under not easy to understand circumstances), and InfluxDB remains unreachable (and these containers crashes). I need to reboot these containers in an exact order, after rebooting InfluxDB.

While I understand what's going on, I need a way to reliable determine that InfluxDB is not reachable and these containers are not reachable, in order to identify this situation and manually check what's going on - and, maybe, in the future, automatically restart them if needed.

So, I was looking at HTTP Request action, but I need to capture the HTTP response code, instead of the response (becase if ping is OK, InfluxDB will reply with a 204), and, potentially, a way to programmatically detect that it's failing to get the response.

While I could write a custom HTTP controller for this or a custom HTTP virtual device, I was wondering if this is somewhat on you roadmap @toggledbits

Thanks!

Multi-System Reactor
ZwaveJSUI - RGBWW BULB - Warm/Cold White interfered with RGB settings - Bulb doesn't change color if in WarmWhite state.
N

Hi ,
I'm on
-Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25067-62e21a2d
-Docker on Synology NAS
-ZWaveJSUI 9.31.0.6c80945

Problem with ZwaveJSUI:
When I try to change color to a bulb RGBWW, it doesn't change to the RGB color and the bulb remains warm or cold white.
I tryed with Zipato RGBW Bulb V2 RGBWE2, Hank Bulb HKZW-RGB01, Aentec 6 A-ZWA002, so seems that it happens with all RGBWW bulb with reactor/zwavejsui.

I'm using from reator the entity action: "rgb_color.set" and "rgb_color.set_rgb".
After I send the reactor command, It changes in zwavejsui the rgb settings but doesn't put the white channel to "0", so the prevalent channel remains warm/cold White and the bulb doesn't change into the rgb color.

This is the status of the bulb in zwavejsui after "rgb_color.set" (235,33,33,) and the bulb is still warmWhite.

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor={"warmWhite":204,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}

The "cold white" and "warm white" settings interfer with the rgb color settings.

Reactor can change bulb colors with rgb_color set — (value, ui8, 0x000000 to 0xffffff) or rgb_color set_rgb — (red, green, blue, all ui1, 0 to 255) but if warm or cold white
are not to "0", zwavejsui doesn't change them and I can't find a way to change into rgb or from rgb back to warm white.

So if I use from reactor: rgb_color set_rgb — (235,33,33) in zwavejsui I have

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: targetColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: targetColor 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: currentColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: currentColor

In zwavejsui, the bulb changes rgb set but warm White remains to "204" and the bulb remais on warm White channel bacause is prevalent on rgb set.

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_0=204 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_1=0 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_2=235 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_3=33 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_4=33

Is it possible to targetColor also for "warmWhite" and "coldWhite" and have something similar to this?

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"warmWhite":0,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}

Thanks in advance.

Multi-System Reactor
Problem with simultaneous notifications.
T

Good day all,
I have a reaction set up, that I use for both troubleshooting and changing home modes when one of my family members either arrive or are leaving. I use the companion app for HAAS on our iPhones, and HAAS reports if the person associated with the iPhone enters or leaves the geofenced area around my home. I'm sure most MSR and HAAS users are familiar with this.

I use this rule set mainly as a condition for other rules, however, as part of troubleshooting, a notification is sent through HAAS to the companion app when the rule becomes true. The problem is that I'm getting notifications now for both arriving and departing simultaneously.

96b3f7db-ba09-499e-a78c-86903b603857-image.png

36903cdd-a87f-473b-82ef-af9ef96d3c44-image.png It used to work fine as intended. I'm not sure exactly when it changed, but now I'm getting two notifications when either of these conditions change.

Any idea what could be happening?

Edit:
Running: latest-25082-3c348de6, bare-metal Linux
ZWaveJSControllerr [0.1.25082]

Multi-System Reactor
Problem after upgrading to 25067
R

MSR had been running fine, but I decided to follow the message to upgrade to 25067. Since the upgrade, I have received the message "Controller "<name>" (HubitatController hubitat2) could not be loaded at startup. Its ID is not unique." MSR throws the message on every restart. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
I am running MSR on a Raspberry Pi4 connecting to two Hubitat units over an OpenVPN tunnel. One C8 and a C8 Pro. Both are up-to-date. It appears that despite the error message that MSR may be operating properly.

Multi-System Reactor
Global expressions not always evaluated
tunnusT

Similarly as for local expressions, global expressions evaluate and update fine when getEntity(...) structure is used. However, at least when certain functions are in use, expressions do not update.

Consider the following test case:

Screenshot 2025-03-13 at 16.29.42.png

Even though auto-evaluation is active, value does not change (it changes only if that expression is manually run). MSR restarts do not help.

Screenshot 2025-03-13 at 16.31.43.png

Note: Tested using build 25067 on Docker. I have also a PR open (but couldn't now get details or PR number as my Mantis account was somehow expired?).

Multi-System Reactor
[Solved] Local expression evaluation
V

Trying to understand what cause a local expresssion to be evaluated. I have read the manual but I am still not clear about it. Using the test rule below, I can see in the log that the rule is being automatically evaluated every time the temperature entity is changing. That is great...

What I am trying to understand is why the expression is not evaluated based on time as well since the "case" statement has time dependencies.

Any help would be appreciated

I have the following test rule:

eba6a3ea-ff61-4610-88c9-9b9864f11ff8-Screenshot 2025-01-21 095244.png

2d9c1ff5-7b73-4005-b324-9029c2709db9-Screenshot 2025-01-21 095302.png

Here is the expressioncode:

vFrom1 = "09:25:00", vFrom2 = "09:30:00", vFrom3 = "09:41:00", vTo = "10:55:00", # Get current time (format HH:MM:SS) vToDay = strftime("%H:%M:%S"), #Get current house temperature CurrentHouseTemp = getEntity( "hass>Thermostat2 " ).attributes.temperature_sensor.value, case when CurrentHouseTemp <= 19 and vToDay >= vFrom1 && vToDay <= vTo: "true1" # From1 when CurrentHouseTemp <= 20 and vToDay >= vFrom2 && vToDay <= vTo: "true2" # From2 when CurrentHouseTemp < 26  and vToDay >= vFrom3 && vToDay <= vTo: "true3" # From3 else "false" end
Multi-System Reactor
[Solved] Runtime error when exiting global reaction that contains a group
S

I am getting a Runtime error on different browsers when I click exit when editing an existing or creating a new global reaction containing a group. If the global reaction does not have a group I don't get an error. I see a similar post on the forum about a Runtime Error when creating reactions but started a new thread as that appears to be solved.

The Runtime Error is different in the two browsers
Safari v18.3

@http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:44 You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Google Chrome 133.0.6943.142

TypeError: self.editor.isModified is not a function at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:34) You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Steps to reproduce:
Click the pencil to edit a global reaction with a group.
Click the Exit button.
Runtime error appears.
or
Click Create Reaction
Click Add Action
Select Group
Add Condition such as Entity Attribute.
Add an Action.
Click Save
Click Exit
Runtime error appears.

I don’t know how long the error has been there as I haven’t edited the global reaction in a long time.

Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25060-f32eaa46
Docker
Mac OS: 15.3.1
Thanks

Multi-System Reactor
Cannot delete Global Expressions
SnowmanS

I am trying to delete a global expression (gLightDelay) but for some strange reason, it comes back despite clicking the Delete this expression and Save Changes buttons.

I have not created a global expression for some times and just noticed this while doing some clean-up.

I have upgraded Reactor to 25067 from 25060 and the behaviour is still there. I have restarted Reactor (as well as restarting its container) and cleared the browser's cache several times without success.

Here's what the log shows.

[latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:22.690Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:26.254Z <GlobalExpression:NOTICE> Deleting global expression gLightDelay [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:27.887Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" }

Reactor latest-25067-62e21a2d
Docker on Synology NAS

Multi-System Reactor
Local notification methods?
CatmanV2C

Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method.

This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP.

I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone)

I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions?

TIA

C

Multi-System Reactor
Custom capabilities in MQTT templates
M

Hi,
I'm trying to integrate the sonos-mqtt (https://sonos2mqtt.svrooij.io/) with the MSR and it's coming along nicely so far.
But cannot wrap my head around how to define custom capabilities in MQTT templates. I need this for the TTS announcements and similarly for the notification sounds where I would pass the sound file as parameter.

So this is what I have in the local_mqtt_devices.yaml

capabilities: x_sonos_announcement: attributes: actions: speak: arguments: text: type: string volume: type: int delay: type: int

And this is the template:

templates: sonos-announcement: capabilities: - x_sonos_announcement actions: x_sonos_announcement: speak: topic: "sonos/cmd/speak" payload: expr: > { "text": parameters.text, "volume": parameters.volume, "delayMs": parameters.delay, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" } type: json

So the speak action should send something like this to topic sonos/cmd/speak

{ "text": "message goes here", "volume": 50, "delayMs": 100, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" }

At startup the MSR seems to be quite unhappy with my configuration:

reactor | [latest-25016]2025-02-09T08:19:59.029Z <MQTTController:WARN> MQTTController#mqtt entity Entity#mqtt>sonos-announcement unable to configure capabilities [Array][ "x_sonos_announcement" ] reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} has unrecognized capability {1:q} in actions reactor | Trace: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:611:28) reactor | at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:125:25) reactor | at MQTTController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:627:30) reactor | at MQTTController.start (/var/reactor/ext/MQTTController/MQTTController.js:268:26) reactor | at async Promise.allSettled (index 0) Configuration for "sonos-announcement" has unrecognized capability "x_sonos_announcement" in actions Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM Configuration for "sonos-announcement" is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: x_sonos_announcement Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM

This is probably a pretty stupid question and the approach may not even work at all, but maybe someone or @toggledbits for sure, could point me to the right direction.
Basically the idea is to be able to send TTS messages from reactions using entity actions. I've previously used HTTP requests to Sonos HTTP API (https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisns/docker-node-sonos-http-api/) for the same functionality, but since moving to sonos-mqtt, I need a way to send the TTS notifications using MQTTController. Along with the actual message, volume and delay must also be parameterizable.

br,
mgvra

MSR latest-25016-d47fea38 / MQTTController [0.2.24293]

Multi-System Reactor
[SOLVED]Hass websocket falsely reporting ready on boot??
V

Hi, @toggledbits

I just noticed that following a reboot of my raspberry pi, some of the rules, that I was expecting to recover, are not catching up following a reboot. I have made a simple test rule (rule-m6rz6ol1) with only "after Date/time" as trigger and "turn on a lamp" as a set reaction. All my infrastructure is on the same board so Reactor, Hass, Zwavejs, ... are all rebooting.

Here is the sequence of the test case (All time converted to Zulu to match logs):

Rule "after Date/Time" set to 14:05:00z Shutdown on Raspberry Pi at 14:04:00z Power back up at 14:08:00z Rule overview shows true as of 14:08:14z waiting for 00:00:00 in GUI

From the log I can see that MSR is picking up the rule and knows that the state of the rule has changed from false to true and tries to send the update to HASS but failed with websocket error.

Here is what I see from the log:

14:04:04z shutdown complete 14:08:08z Power up 14:08:13.111z websocket connection 14:08:15:323z Reaction to the light failed, Websocket not opened After there is a series of websocket connection attempt until 14:08:51z where it seemed to be really ready.

Back in 2021 we had a discussion (https://smarthome.community/topic/700/solved-start-up?_=1738766986566) and you proposed to add a startup_delay:xxxx and startup_wait:xxxx parameter in the engine section of "reactor.yaml". When I try the startup_delay (this used to be a hard delay), the engine failed to start (I think). I then try the startup_wait:xxxx without any success. Since it wait for the connection status to be up to cancel the delay, it does not do anyting since Hass is reporting the socket up without really being up ( I think...).

Questions:

Did I figured it all wrong? should the startup_delay:xxxxx have worked? Any ideas?

Here is the log:

OK now I am stuck. I did add the log but when I submit the editor complained saying that I am limited to 32767 characters. The log from the shutdown to the time the websocket is stable is about 300000 character long. What are my options?

Multi-System Reactor
[SOLVED]Logs permissions for Docker Install
V

Not a big issue simply a request if easily doable.

The MSR logs files inside the container are owned by root witch is fine however, the permissions are very restrictive. I do not know if there is something wrong with my installation but the logs permission are set to 222 (write only). Even if the docker volume is set for Read/Write the log files are retaining these values.

I go around the problem by doing a chmod 777 on all reactor logs but every time there is an MSR log rotation the permissions are set back to 222. So unless the permission are implemented in the container there is no permanent solution to this (that I know of).

I do not know much about Docker container so I do not know what is involved here.

Can the logfiles permission be simply chaged in the container to at least allow "other" read permission?

Could the MSR log rotation routine implement a chmod to set the permission?

Just a small anoyance

Thanks

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Throttled problem

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    Hi @toggledbits

    I found this very old post that talked about a way to limit device reading to avoid the throttled problem, because it's not a question of logic, it's that the device actually sends a lot of information, in my case the NUT ups installed in HE.

    https://smarthome.community/topic/687/flapping-device?_=1737652139854

    It mentions engine section of reactor.yaml by setting update_rate_limit, but I looked in the current MSR documentation and I can't find this information, so I don't know if it's still valid, its effect and parameters.

    My situation is simple, when I have a UPS problem the NUT is sending dozens of reports per second and then I have the throttled problem. The same rule applies when the power is normal.

    This is the rule, and the parameter that fails is the Tripp Lite UPS status.

    cf9ddabf-3144-4e5a-80a4-0dc7664b9573-image.png

    a813a077-974e-4737-897c-e383085b3d8f-image.png

    All error is the same scenario.

    [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.753Z <Rule:WARN> (13) NUT Disconected (rule-l4djr0p7 in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.756Z <Rule:WARN> (27) Falta de Energia (rule-l4h9ceod in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.769Z <Rule:WARN> (73) UPS Battery Low (rule-l4hj850o in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.772Z <Rule:WARN> (74) UPS Comm Fail (rule-l4kbs5cp in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttlin>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.776Z <Rule:WARN> (76) UPS Utility Back (rule-l4hjhs6m in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.780Z <Rule:WARN> UPS On Battery (rule-l4hjuka5 in Datacenter) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttling>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.781Z <Rule:WARN> UPS Info (rule-l4gheo63 in Datacenter) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttling...
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.757Z <Rule:WARN> (13) NUT Disconected (rule-l4djr0p7 in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.759Z <Rule:WARN> (27) Falta de Energia (rule-l4h9ceod in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.776Z <Rule:WARN> (73) UPS Battery Low (rule-l4hj850o in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.777Z <Rule:WARN> (74) UPS Comm Fail (rule-l4kbs5cp in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttlin>
[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.778Z <Rule:WARN> (76) UPS Utility Back (rule-l4hjhs6m in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>

    Thanks.

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      replied to wmarcolin on last edited by
      #2

      @wmarcolin search the manual for "time series"

      Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT

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        wrote on last edited by toggledbits
        #3

        when I have a UPS problem the NUT is sending dozens of reports per second

        What's the UPS problem? Maybe that could be addressed in NUTController if its some odd failure mode of NUT that I can detect?

        What you likely don't want to do is allow the issue to place an even larger load on the system by increasing the throttling limit.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          #4

          @tunnus hi!
          I like what I've read, I think it could be a solution, but it's still not very clear how to configure it, since I want to save various attributes of the device.
          I'll try it out and post the result here for you, but it could be a way forward.
          Thank you.

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            @toggledbits hi!

            This NUT UPS issue is something I've been unable to get to work perfectly for months, not to mention year. I even posted a message to you recently.

            I tried to use an old solution from the HE community instead of the MSR solution. The information it returns is much simpler, I had to add attributes to the drive, but the problem turns out to be the same, the NUT stops working, the communication between the UPS and the VM where the NUT is located is not stable. HE upsd drive result: Satale date.

            dev:1572025-01-24 08:21:16.586 PMinfo
connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
dev:1572025-01-24 08:21:01.183 PMinfo
connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:31.149 PMerror
telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:01.110 PMinfo
disconnected from upsd
dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:00.082 PMerror
telnet status: send error: Broken pipe (Write failed)
dev:1572025-01-24 08:11:15.553 PMinfo
connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:45.514 PMerror
telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:30.421 PMerror
telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.277 PMinfo
disconnected from upsd
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.252 PMerror
telnet status: receive error: Stream is closed
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.228 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.216 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.203 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.122 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.111 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.098 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.069 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:09:30.112 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data
dev:1572025-01-24 08:09:30.101 PMwarn
upsd: Stale data

            In other words, after switching from MSR to HE control, the problem continues, changing the error Throttled to ECONNREFUSED.

            Making a new test, returning to the MSR's NUTControl configuration below, with the same parameters as the HE drive.

              - id: nut
    enabled: true
    implementation: NUTController
    name: NUT UPS Controller
    config:
      server: 192.168.50.8  # modify the IP address as needed
      port: 3493            # optional, default shown
      username: "Reactor"   # optional, no user auth if not set
      password: "Mac1967"   # optional, must be specified if username is used

            The error.log log on MSR is:

            [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.800Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.807Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.815Z <Controller:ERR> Controller NUTController#nut is off-line!
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:09.907Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:11.924Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:13.927Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:15.939Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:18.124Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:20.128Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:22.150Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:24.172Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:26.182Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]

            IMPORTANT, even with this error log, the NUT control in the MSR does not stop working, it persists until it manages to communicate and collect the data, but this error scenario overloads the MSR.

            Perhaps the time solution indicated by @tunnus could help.

            In addition, parts of the ro reactor.log:

            [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.777Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 loading controller interface nut (NUTController)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.779Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v24303
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.779Z <Controller:INFO> Loaded NUTController version "0.1.24303"; Patrick Rigney/Kedron Holdings LLC <patrick@toggledbits.com> https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/NUTC>
[
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[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.847Z <Structure:INFO> Starting controller NUTController#nut
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[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.394Z <Engine:INFO> [Engine]Engine#1 master timer tick, local time "1/24/2025 9:06:47 PM" (TZ offset -300 mins from UTC)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.395Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.397Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitatC7 performing initial connection and inventory
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.398Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitatC8 performing initial connection and inventory
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.405Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.455Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.460Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:192.168.50.9
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller NUTController#nut is now online.
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.516Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:192.168.50.133
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[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.774Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.777Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.777Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
.
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.799Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.800Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.801Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.801Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.802Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.803Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.807Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.815Z <Controller:ERR> Controller NUTController#nut is off-line!
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.816Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.829Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
[latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.830Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)

            IN SUMMARY:

            • the connection parameters IP, login and password are correct, in the log you can see that it connects.
            • NUTControl works until it starts a sequence of failures.
            • In order to re-establish the service, I put a stop and start process in the crontab every 10 minutes, the problem is that it can remain idle all this time and fail.
            • I've tried changing all the synchronization and reading times in the NUT parameters, I've even increased them to 90 seconds for data collection(ie. POLLFREQALERT 30 // HOSTSYNC 30), and it doesn't change the scenario, at a certain point there's saturation and the UPS stops responding.2

            So I think the idea of making the MSR have a different collection time, longer than other devices, can at least reduce the error log, but it doesn't solve the problem.

            Thanks.

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              #6

              @wmarcolin here's something I've used for a sensor that updates too frequently:

               id: virtual4b
          name: "Lay-Z-Spa temp"
          capabilities:
            temperature_sensor:
              attributes:
                value:
                  model: time series
                  entity: "mqtt>layzspa_states"
                  attribute: "temperature_sensor.value"
                  interval: 1  # minutes
                  retention: 1  # minutes
                  aggregate: sma
                  precision: 0
          primary_attribute: temperature_sensor.value
          type: ValueSensor

              Now I can use this virtual entity instead of a real one in a rule without throttling or logging problems (log files rotating too often etc)

              Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT

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                #7

                Somewhere between...

                [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready

                and

                [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.774Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...

                is another message I need to see. NUTController will log the reason for a disconnect prior to reconnecting.

                Using a time series is a band-aid that may mask the symptom but won't fix the problem. I don't recommend it, because it really doesn't reduce the system load -- it still needs to handle the change notifications, it's just doing it in a different subsystem.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  #8

                  @wmarcolin pull the 25026 release of NUTController. I made some changes to the recovery discipline and added more info messages. Let's see if it helps us get to the bottom of this.

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    @toggledbits download and test now.

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                        Hi @toggledbits !!

                        I installed the new version, and at the same time created a log file specifically for NUTController, below is what I captured in the first 20 minutes, remembering that every 10 minutes I stop and restart the service to mitigate the problem.

                        [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.243Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v25026
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.840Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.848Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.848Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.887Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.960Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:32.007Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.750Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting reconnect...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.808Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.810Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.811Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.811Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.812Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.812Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.897Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.898Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.911Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
.
. repeat same fail 4....28
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.732Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.733Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.734Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (29 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.740Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.741Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.742Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (30 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.762Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.826Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.875Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.389Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting reconnect...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.440Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.440Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.441Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.441Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.444Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.445Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.454Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.455Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.462Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
.
. repeat same fail 4....28
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[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.245Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.246Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.246Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (29 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.246Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.248Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.248Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (30 fails)
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.251Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.310Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
[latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.367Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
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                          #12

                          @wmarcolin said in Throttled problem:

                          remembering that every 10 minutes I stop and restart the service to mitigate the problem.

                          OK. So basically, the log is showing exactly that. It's showing that every 10 minutes, the NUT service is closing the connection, and the service takes 60 seconds, almost exactly, to restart before NUTController can connect to it.

                          Try turning off the 10 minute restart and see what it does.

                          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                            @toggledbits

                            I removed the crontab stop and restart process with a set time, and then restarted the MSR to follow the new logs, below.

                            [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:58.785Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v25026
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.438Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.16>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.444Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.444Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) >
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.544Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client not yet ready; waiting
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.544Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:29:00.631Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:29:00.688Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:17.580Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:17.580Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:27.602Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:27.603Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:37.610Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:37.610Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:47.618Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:47.619Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:57.682Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:57.682Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:07.687Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:07.687Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:18.056Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:18.056Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:28.059Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:28.059Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:38.068Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:38.068Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
.
. start the DAT-STALE
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:13.198Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:23.199Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:23.200Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:33.202Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:33.203Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:43.213Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:43.214Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:53.227Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:53.227Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:03.330Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:03.330Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
.
. nothing change than I restart the process (
.
#systemctl restart nut-driver.service
#systemctl restart nut-server.service
#systemctl restart nut-monitor.service
.
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:13.332Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:13.332Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:23.336Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:23.336Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:33.362Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:33.363Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:43.414Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:43.414Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DRIVER-NOT-CONNECTED
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.544Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting re>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.596Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.16>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.597Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.597Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) >
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.598Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.648Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:54.705Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:54.748Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:37.934Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:37.934Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:47.942Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:47.942Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:57.945Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:57.946Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:29:07.959Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
[latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:29:07.960Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
.
. but after 8min DATA-STALE again
.

                            When it failed I consulted upsc directly and the answer I got was the one below.

                            root@main:/home/wilson/reactor/logs# upsc TrippLite@192.168.50.8
Init SSL without certificate database
Error: Data stale
root@main:/home/wilson/reactor/logs#

                            Importantly, in MSR the NUT service does not crash, but it stops updating.

                            654abd95-559a-41de-a535-c4ae65f81943-image.png

                            See that the device goes into an uninformed/excluded status.

                            ee8ca3f8-76e0-4020-8364-5644bc593555-image.png

                            I don't think the problem lies with the MSR/NUTConttoler, it's a matter of the NUT itself managing the UPS. I've been in this situation for more than a year and I can't get out of the problem loop, so some time ago I adopted the stop and restart crontab to alleviate the problem.

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                              replied to wmarcolin on last edited by
                              #14

                              @toggledbits

                              Looking for a solution, I implement this script.

                              #!/bin/bash

# Nome do UPS configurado em /etc/nut/ups.conf
UPS_NAME="TrippLite"

# Comando para verificar o status do UPS
if upsc "$UPS_NAME@localhost" | grep -q "DATA-STALE"; then
    echo "$(date): DATA-STALE detectado. Reiniciando o serviço NUT." >> /var/log/monitor_nut.log
    systemctl restart nut-driver.service
    systemctl restart nut-server.service
    systemctl restart nut-monitor.service
else
    echo "$(date): Serviço funcionando normalmente." >> /var/log/monitor_nut.log
fi

                              We'll see if it eases the problem, but here's the situation with the NUT.

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                                toggledbits
                                wrote on last edited by toggledbits
                                #15

                                OK. That's enough info to determine it's a NUT problem (or driver problem), at least.

                                You may want to look at this. You should be troubleshooting at the Network UPS Tools level, looking at your (operating) system log files. Restarting the service isn't going to fix it.

                                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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