After the veralert service was shut down and Richard confirmed that it will not be available again, I searched for a new notification service to use in my vere secure. I signed up for the PushOver service.
I want to take a snapshot from a camera with camera snapshot address “192.168.4.37/img/snapshot.cgi?size=4&quality=1” and video address “192.168.4.37/img/video.mjpeg” according to a trigger.
Actually, someone (Tlex) did a work about this years ago on the vera forum, but I couldn't understand that script. I also wrote to him to be more descriptive, but I didn't get an answer. Can you help me with this?
With their awesome new X10 switch!
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I'm hopping in my 1980s time machine to go see whether this is exactly what I think it is. 🙂
(Srsly, tho, I love(d) X10 and did everything humanly possible to keep that old equipment perking along with Vera, and almost succeeded.)
LibraP.S. Just got banned for the 9th time from Hubitat Forum, so had a little extra time to throw shade.
P.P.S. The boilerplate 5-star reviews for this brand-new product come from bots with names like Avery, Phoenix and Owen (two from Mateo!). Sheesh.
Let's assume you have done the following:
Downloaded and installed Z-Way following these instructions. No Zway license is required to do the following. The software is now all up and running with your UZB stick (whole other post). Dial up this Zway web page: http://<Zway_server_IP_address>:8083/expert/#/network/controller Under the heading "Firmware" take note of the "SDK version" and the "Serial API Version". Say they equal 6.71.01 & 05.23 respectively like it shows here.Now on to Vera:
Go to the Vera UI --> Z-Wave Settings and taken note of the "Version" shown for Vera's internal Zwave IC. For example purposes, say it equals "6.01". You plug your UZB stick into Vera. In the Z-Wave Settings you set the port to "/dev/ttyACM0" You've rebooted Vera, so that it starts using the UZB stick.OK, so what "Version" will Vera now display and the version of what? The version shown by Vera is the "Z-Wave protocol" version or the "Serial API" version - it's unclear which but I suspect the former. However on most occasions the numbers are the same. It's not the Software Developers Kit (SDK) version number.
Knowing the UZB firmware version you can identify what Vera will show with the following table.
From the example above: Zway stated the version as 5.23. It will show in Vera as version 4.61 - see table. However the Vera internals showed up as 6.01. So using this method to copy the Zwave configuration to the stick will not work, as the stick represents a downgrade and you can only do same to same or upgrades. So in this case you need to update the stick firmware from 5.23 to 5.32 as a minimum. Then the stick will show up in Vera with version of 6.01.
Which is great. So you then use the Zway software to upgrade the stick firmware. And that's the last you hear from it because this happens:
"Sorry to inform you, but there is a known issue in some UZB manufactured by our partners on license base that after upgrade they become bricked."
And you have to do this to unbrick it. So time to try someone else's stick. Sigh.
ZWay UZB version Vera version SDK version 5.39 6.09 6.82.01 6.08 6.82.00 6.07 6.81.06 6.06 6.81.05 6.05 6.81.04 6.04 6.81.03 6.03 6.81.02 5.37 6.02 6.81.01 5.36 6.02??? 6.81.00 ???? 5.33 6.02??? 6.81.00 ???? 5.32 6.01 6.81.00 5.03 6.71.03 5.02 6.71.02 5.27 BL 48059 4.61 6.71.0? 5.26 4.61 6.71.0? 5.23 4.61 6.71.01 4.6 6.71.00 5.2 4.6? 6.7?.00 5.16 4.6? 6.70.00 4.62 6.61.01 4.33 6.61.00 4.54 6.51.10 5.07 4.38 6.51.09 4.34 6.51.08 4.24 6.51.07 4.05 6.51.06 5.06 4.01 6.51.04 3.99 6.51.03 3.95 6.51.02 3.92 6.51.01 3.83 6.51.00 3.79 6.50.01 3.71 6.50.00 3.67 3.35 6.10.00 3.41 6.02.00 3.37 6.01.03 2.78The table is based on page 434 of silabs app INS13954 and the UZB firmware revision information found here. The table may have errors!
The vera can run both its zwave and zigbee network off of external USB radios instead of the onboard ones. This could have advantages in terms of portability, facilitating migrations or recoveries in case the vera craps out. It could also enable testing of newer radio firmwares.
Zwave is pretty straightforward as its serial API is standardized and the protocol is the same regardless of what brand of USB stick you use. I have run my vera off of USB sticks of various brands for years going from Aeotec, Zooz, Homeseer and even the most generic silabs/Sigma Design. You just insert the stick in the usb port, find out which serial port it created (under the /dev/ folder) and use that port (ie. /dev/ttyACM0, /dev/ttyUSB0 etc) in the zwave advance menu.
Zigbee is a little trickier as the protocol and chipset was not quite as standardized as zwave. The vera only works with ember Znet protocol and you will need to find a usb stick with an EM35x chip in it which already has an ember zigbee firmware loaded. One example of such a stick is the Go Control HUSBZB1 (dual zwave-zigbee stick). The port is not readily accessible on the vera UI but can be accessed either through editing of the /etc/cmh/user-data.json or through ALTUI by going into the hidden zigbee radio device through the "table devices " menu and changing modifying the port variable there.
You can also upgrade the onboard zwave and zigbee radio firmwares from the command line SSH...
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Hello everybody.
I would like to automate the underfloor heating. At the moment I have the gateway from vera secure and thermostat with receiver from SRT SECURE with z-wave. I would like to connect to the gateway a receiver with 4 channels from sonoff and 3 temperature and humidity sensors from aliexpress as a thermostat. do you think it is possible?
and one more question... how can I change the name of the wireless network and the password from the gateway?
Thank you very much!
Script to disable all the mios/vera proprietary program and broadcast its zwave and zigbee radio serial ports in your network so it can be picked up by another controller... For example z-way.
GitHub - rafale77/Nuke-Vera: Script to neuter the vera and broadcast its zwave and zigbee serial ports GitHub - rafale77/Nuke-Vera: Script to neuter the vera and broadcast its zwave and zigbee serial portsScript to neuter the vera and broadcast its zwave and zigbee serial ports - rafale77/Nuke-Vera
Good morning all,
I've got a stable Home Assistant running on a RPI 4 with a Aeotec Z-Stick 7 Plus, and of course the Z-wave JS integration. I've manually moved a handful of devices, and I'm overall much happier with the HA z-wave capability than I am with Vera. There are still some things I'm trying to figure out that I have in Vera that I'm not sure how they'll work in HA, but no deal breakers.
I've got all of my automation on MSR and off of luup Reactor, so really the only thing left for me is to migrate my Z-wave network. I saw @rafale77's post about using a Zwave.me UZB1 to Zway, but of course that's not what I'm using.
Is there a similar method that I can use my Aeotec Z-Stick 7 plus to Home Assistant? I have around 70 Z-wave devices (give or take devices that generate multiple instances in Vera), so manual unpairing, including, etc, would be quite a chore.
So ... I am trying to do the following:
Current setup:
Vera Plus (1.7.4955) Zwave only -> HASSIO VM (full control via Vera Integration)
Future Target:
HASSIO VM (leveraging zwave.me UZB1 dongle via USB)
I have done the following so far:
Updated UZB1 dongle (via RPi SmartHome) to latest 5.39 FirmwareI followed the following steps to try and migrate my existing Z-Wave NW (currently on Vera) onto the UZB1 dongle following the steps listed here:
Migrate from Vera to Z-way
Problem:
Steps 1-3: went fine (although the dumps are labeled as dongle.6.1.dump.x)
Step 4: went fine and the UZB1 was recognized as it should be (per dmesg)
Step 5: updating the port to /dev/ttyACM0 went fine, although I didn't see any indication of luup reload (or a save button for that matter when updating the port mapping)
Step 6: I did the touch for dongle.restore, but wasn't sure where to trigger a luup reload (I assumed it was Z-Wave Settings > Advanced > Reload Engine). I believe I got an error message when trying to do that step
Step 7: verify dongle.restore.go I don't recall being in the directions when I was going the test, but I rebooted
Post Reboot: None of my previous z-wave devices were listed. I also checked dmesg via ssh and noticed the following items:
[ 4.328000] Unsupported Device! [ 4.328000] Vendor=658 ProdID=200 [ 4.328000] Manufacturer= Product=I saw that item a couple times which almost seems like Vera is blocking the UZB1 or at least complaining about it.
I ended up switching the Z-Wave back to the embedded controller, and restoring configuration from backup.
Any suggestions what I did wrong??
Having trouble getting a Vera 3 to recognise a Z-Wave.Me UZB stick.
WinSCP indicates it's mounted at /dev/ttyACM0, so the Vera Z-Wave settings were adjusted to match. On a Luup engine reload Vera UI states: "ZWave : Failed To Start". Ditto for a complete Vera reboot.
Has anyone successfully used a UZB stick with a Vera 3?
Hello Everyone,
I am using iPhone locator on Vera, and yesterday it stopped working. Looking at the logs, I can see the connection is refused, but nothing on my end changed. iPhone locator is really important in my particular setup, so I guess I have two questions.
Is it broken, or is it me?
I don't see anyone else saying there is an issue, but I am not sure how many people are still using it (or Vera for location) at this point. I installed it on a blank Vera test controller, same issue. It might be something with the iCloud account, but it works everywhere else.
Is there something similar on another platform?
Mainly what I would like is the ability to force a poll of iCloud location on demand. I have a bunch of triggers setup, including magnetic sensors in my driveway to sense vehicles and determine if the motion is egress or ingress. These triggers in conjunction with MSR have been a great way to double check phone location, and I would hate to lose this functionality. It looks like HA might have something with "iCloud3". Is anyone using it?
Thanks,
Mike
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The only thing left on Vera is now electricity meter readers, and I simply can't find any suitable WiFi replacement.
My hem stopped reporting this august and I’ve replaced it with a Shelly EM. I’m using another one on my solar and they’re amazing fast to report and quite precise. They’re WiFi, and mqtt based. Recommended!
Long story short: I need to tweak some parameters for Fibaro Plugs, to remove frequent notifications about watts (I just need a very good approximation, in order to detect the cycle of washer/dryer), but the parameters depend on the firmware version, and I have:
271,1554,21554
and the other one has:
271,4102,0
Any help is apprreciated.
Have Aeotec Smart Switch 6 in use with Vera Plus (fw 7.31 - 1.7.5186, decoupled) and now as I'm trying to change its configuration, it seems impossible.
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"Save changes" just initiates luup reload, but parameters stay the same. "Configure node right now" does not help either, Vera informs that command sent, but nothing happens. Hard refresh of the browser done.
Device itself is working, e.g. it reports current wattage.
"Automatically configure" is set to "No", if set to "Yes", configuration change is initiated but fails with the message "Failed at: Setting special association"
EDIT: in the end this was solved by unplugging the switch and then plugging it back, some internal state corrupted...
So, I recently added Pi-Hole (pi-hole.net) to my networked clients for its open-sourced Ad and Tracker Blocking. Essentially, it’s a DNS Blacklisting solution and it can display the Domains being accessed.
To my dismay I’m seeing the VERA+ attempting calls to facebook.com on a regular basis between 20 – 70 minutes each.
The Active apps on VERA are Sercomm IP Camera, Amazon Alexa Helper, Garage Door, Foscam HD, Reator, SiteSensor and Ezlo Cameras. I just recently removed AltUI before disconnecting from the cloud services.
Any ideas on how I could track down the culprit caller?
Thanks for your consideration.
I've got a Nokia/Withings bathroom scale on which I weigh myself daily. I used to use IFTTT to push every weighing result into a Google Spreadsheet in the cloud, but now that I use MSR, I'm more interested in integrating this data into that workflow.
Has anyone figured out a way to move data from a WiFi-connected scale into the Vera environment? I don't mind trying something indirect, as for instance I've already linked the weights over to my Google Fit app.
Open to suggestions!
Recently I have been getting constant reloads on my Vera Plus running the latest 7.32 beta build. It usually starts after a 3-4 day Luup uptime and the reloads start at around 5am local time and keep going every 30 mins until I physically restart my Vera Plus (unplugging and plugging it back in). Right before a reload I see on the status bar above the modes on the homepage "cannot write user data" then after a few minutes a reload occurs. Looking into the logs I have seen mention of 03 06/21/21 8:53:18.102 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::Reload: low memory Critical 1 m_bCriticalOnly 0 dirty data 1 running 1 <0x76aa7520> almost every single time a reload happens. I have attached logs from 2 instances this morning where a reload happened. I have noticed that the OpenSprinkler plugin has been very chatty even though I have set debugging to 0, is that what is filling up temp log system?
01 06/21/21 8:45:58.123 IOPort::Connect connect -1 192.168.8.43:23 <0x6a148520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.031 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244271 1244271 <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.333 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234865 save size 234865 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.333 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.334 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.334 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.341 UserData::WriteUserData failed File Size: 234865 save size 234902 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.342 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.344 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.632 UserData::WriteUserData failed result:1 size2:234865 vs 234865 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.632 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.634 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.635 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.635 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.636 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.636 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 1 now: 2 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x1099d38/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.637 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: Resetting ZWave Network #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x1a02d48/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.637 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 0 now: 3 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.638 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: GET_LANG(resetting_zigbee_network,Resetting Zigbee Network) #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x12b9e60/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.648 RAServerSync::SendAlert notification lost quit 1 device 50002761 servers:vera-us-oem-event12.mios.com/vera-us-oem-event11.mios.com for time 23822220 type 7 code user_data <0x7642b520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.381 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244349 1244349 <0x770dc320> 01 06/21/21 8:46:01.675 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234875 save size 234875 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.675 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.676 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.676 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 01 06/21/21 8:46:01.680 UserData::WriteUserData failed File Size: 234875 save size 234865 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.680 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.682 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 01 06/21/21 8:46:01.940 UserData::WriteUserData failed result:1 size2:234875 vs 234875 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.941 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.943 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.944 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.945 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.945 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 50 06/21/21 8:46:03.102 luup_log:1304: VeraOpenSprinkler[1.50]: [updateFromController] error: false - nil - nil <0x72581520> 01 06/21/21 8:46:05.210 Main WatchDogRoutine: blocked - terminating 1 <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 Dumping 40 locks <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 OL: (0xbbc560) (>100746) Variable JobHandler_LuaUPnP.cpp l:9817 time: 4:00:00p (1624290365 s) thread: 0x6f948520 Rel: Y Got: Y <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.218 OL: (0xbbc560) (>100751) Variable JobHandler_LuaUPnP.cpp l:9817 time: 4:00:00p (1624290365 s) thread: 0x6d948520 Rel: Y Got: Y <0x695de520> 2021-06-21 08:46:05 - LuaUPnP Terminated with Exit Code: 137 03 06/21/21 8:53:18.102 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::Reload: low memory Critical 1 m_bCriticalOnly 0 dirty data 1 running 1 <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.103 luup_log:901: Tesla Car_error: Monitor awake state, failed #400 HTTP/1.1 400 BAD REQUEST !! <0x72ffd520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.482 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244185 1244185 <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.781 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234865 save size 234865 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.781 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.781 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.782 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.787 UserData::WriteUserData failed File Size: 234865 save size 234875 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.787 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.789 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.813 IOPort::Connect connect -1 192.168.8.43:23 <0x6a7c4520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:19.020 UserData::WriteUserData failed result:1 size2:234865 vs 234865 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.020 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.023 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.027 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.028 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.028 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.029 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 1 now: 2 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x14bad80/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.029 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: Resetting ZWave Network #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x1e23b10/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.033 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 0 now: 3 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:19.040 RAServerSync::SendAlert notification lost quit 1 device 50002761 servers:vera-us-oem-event12.mios.com/vera-us-oem-event11.mios.com for time 20546340 type 7 code user_data <0x76ca7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.044 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: GET_LANG(resetting_zigbee_network,Resetting Zigbee Network) #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x16dadc0/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:20.807 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244263 1244263 <0x77759320> 01 06/21/21 8:53:21.081 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234875 save size 234875 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.081 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.116 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.117 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 699 res:1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 504 Jun 26 2017 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.luup.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234865 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234996 Jun 21 08:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234930 Jun 21 08:02 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234968 Jun 21 07:47 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234658 Jun 21 07:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234909 Jun 21 06:50 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234875 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.new <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.228 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.259 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.259 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 610 res:1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 504 Jun 26 2017 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.luup.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234875 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234865 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234996 Jun 21 08:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234930 Jun 21 08:02 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234968 Jun 21 07:47 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234658 Jun 21 07:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.5 <0x77759320> 06 06/21/21 8:53:21.465 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeDevice1 variable: PendingRemoveDevices was: 0024460000144655-01d8,0024460000146120-a155,00244600001467ad-a538 now: 0024460000144655-01d8,0024460000146120-a155,00244600001467ad-a538 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:1 <0x77759320> 06 06/21/21 8:53:21.469 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeDevice1 variable: UnknownDevices was: now: #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:1 <0x77759320> 03 06/21/21 8:53:22.100 LuaUPNP: ending <0x77759320> 2021-06-21 08:53:22 - LuaUPnP Terminated with Exit Code: 0```Vera or not vera?
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Dear Experts!
In January 2020, I decided to get involved in automation as a complete beginner.
I purchased a Vera Plus device controller.I built the network gradually, at the cost of overcoming no small problems .....
Since I am a beginner I have had a lot of problems.For example: I had 6 multisensors that sometimes got stuck with motion detection (lights stayed on) and also created ghost devices.
I knocked everything out of the system, the system stabilized a lot after that. (many red lines disappeared from luaupnp ....)Over time and with the help of the experts (Eg: AKbooer was a great help to me in netatmo which I thank again) I managed to solve most of the errors.
I only use a reactor to control the logic and execution.
The logical composition of my reactor is not very complicated in my opinion.My DSC alarm (with plugin) controls the house modes, cameras, each room has a separate reactor sensor (18 sensors in total) which control the automatic lighting and shutters.
I tried to improve the conditions and scenes in the reactor to perfection. (don't have executions, delays and reservations at the same time, I record the states with the "time from reactor" group state, just like the motion and opening detections from another sensor.
The situation is that the system does not always work reliably.
I experience Lua recharges at completely unpredictable intervals, about 1-3 per day
times.
Because of this, unfortunately my scenes slip, (or don't happen)
For simple things (tablet charging in) there is usually no problem.However, if I am not at home for several hours and return home, the alarms will turn off, and the luup recharge(90%).
If you approach the afternoon when more times are set in the time reactor then recharging will still occur but not always.For the past 10 months, I feel tired of the constant error search and still not good. I'm starting to doubt Vera's abilities.
Therefore, I would have the following questions:
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Are the conditions set in the reactor loaded on the vera without action?
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Can the Vera be stable and well-functioning without an unexpected lua reload?
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If so, what do I need to add? (I'm a simple user, not a programmer, I don't know lua and linux programming languages and I don't want to learn because of vera)
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Is there another controller that works safely and well on the z-wave platform?
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In what direction should I move away from the vera, which will not disappoint me?
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Have you heard of a controller called comfortclick? (I was now offered this instead of vera)
Thank you in advance for your help.
Krisztian
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Welcome to the club...
What you are describing is very similar to my own experience. Fighting and debugging the vera, requesting fixes has lead me to where I am today along with a number of us. After years of struggle I ended up giving up on the vera and only kept the best part of it, which is the lua backbone and the community developed apps. I would encourage you to read through the blog section of this forum where people are sharing their experience, including my own.As designed, the vera is not capable of functioning without luup reloads. It is inherently fragile and is a pile of fundamental software design mistakes. The longest I managed to get it to run without luup reloads is about 2 weeks but eventually the accumulated garbage from its absurd zwave management engine catches up and to get there I needed to offload almost everything to openLuup except for the zwave management. Scenes, plugins, vera server connections, all were removed. Even the most basic and simple functions are unreliable and paradoxically their very immature implementation of zigbee was the only thing which appeared to work almost properly.
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Thank you for your response!
Although it doesn't sound too good ... Does this mean that vera will never be able to work without error? (I read your story)
Basically, my dream would be an automation that is reliable, no need to be constantly maintained, tuned.
... the user-friendly interface would be just icing on the cake.
Is it worth welding the vera with openloop and who else knows if it won't be perfect even then?
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I feel for you....Vera is (was) a good step into the HA world but it was/is far from perfect as you found out.
I ended up changing over to HomeSeer3, eventually updating to HS4 which has many native implementations that suit me and worked out of the box so to speak.
Everyone will have a favourite so it's difficult to get a fair comparison, but for me a system that has been around for 20+ years, has a good community and backup was most important.
Try the free download, be quick if you like it as the software is on special this week less50%.
Either way you go, anything will appear better than Vera.
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I think if you explore what a few of us did on this forum you probably will find what you need but there is obviously some compromises to be made and at the moment, at least in my opinion, there isn't a platform which has it all. (See my thread on the home automation pyramid)
The best zwave controller is z-way (for both reliability, scalability and having an approachable API)
The best zigbee controller is Deconz but there are close seconds if you don't need to integrate both the ha stack and a number of various customized zigbee stacks. hubitat and home assistant come to mind.
If you have a lot of cross platform integrations with various APIs, home assistant can't be beat. It develops so fast and is so well supported, being opensource with a huge number of talented community members that I can't see any platform coming close.
For automation setting, and programing, openLuup/ALTUI is amongst the best especially if you started with vera and have already stuff built into it. I have run it for months without a reload, using z-way as the zwave device controller and home assistant as the zigbee and integration bridge.The downside is that it is a pretty steep learning curve with multiple platforms interconnected as I have had to become versed in lua and python (for home assistant only because I developed my own implementation of video processing). I have a very large, complex, reliable and maintenance free system with a very decent interface. As you can see the vera is nowhere to be found in this due to its catastrophic unscalable design. I am now doing so many more things that I could not do with the vera in much more reliable manner. My answer would be "Not Vera"
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Same here. My system is now several orders of magnitude better than on Vera. I have no hesitation in suggesting you move away.
My thread 'What I did on my holidays' or something like that, details my experience and is something of a How-To (warts and all)
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@blackcat
Thank you for your response!
I don’t think I understand HS3-4 exactly. Is this just software? Then it's not like vera .... (vera hardware and software in one)
Should I try it?
How?
How will my system know?
What other hardware do you need? Rasberry? 3? 4?
Sorry for my amateur questions .....Krisz
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@rafael77
Well, with all the components built in, I’d be happy if I didn’t have to make any major changes to the hardware protfolio.
Let's see, do I understand?
Vera, openLuup / ALTUI, is a good stable choice.
If I choose this, do I need to understand lua / linux or other programming languages ??
Or as an outsider, I just install and configure them and you’re done?
As with other plug-ins?
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I am, of course, biased...
You can progress in easy steps, and see how things improve. You will need another computer (Raspberry Pi of any sort is not a bad choice.)
- install openLuup on RPi
- link openLuup to Vera
- move any plugins to openLuup (really helps reliability)
- move scenes to openLuup (ditto)
These are easy steps for which there is much help available. If this is not reliable enough for you then
- buy a UZB stick with ZWave licence, and software (runs on RPi)
- clone your Vera ZWave network to it
- plug in UZB to RPi
- throw away Vera
Then you are in a hugely reliable, yet still familiar, home automation environment.
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Thank you for your comments and helpfulness!
@AKbooer
I think it seems so understandable, although I'm afraid the construction will be much larger in volume ....
Before I start purchasing, I have a few questions:-
"You will need another computer"
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"buy a UZB stick with ZWave license, and software (runs on RPi)"
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My shutter control is not commonplace. I have 433Mhz radio frequency shutter motors. The shutter control interface is connected to the vera via a USB port. It is a 15-channel radio frequency shutter control module that uses port 3481 to communicate with the vera. It communicates with the shutters on RF433Mhz. (device type: urn: schemas-arduino-cc: device: arduino: 1)
Will I be able to use this if I leave the vera completely?
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Homeseer has a 30 day free trial, it's available in both Windows (ideal for repurposing an old laptop) or run it on a Raspberry Pi.
I do both flavours for testing but love the Pi.
A UZB is essential for a Z-Wave network, HS is software not tied to a particular system, for instance apart from Z-Wave you can run Zigbee, KNX, Hue, Tuya... the list goes on.
Your RF controller will work with it.
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The point I was trying to make is that you can trial HS software without a UZB, also there is other software than Z-Way.
I'm hoping that the forum doesn't become Z-Way centric as there other good options available as well including Home Assistant.
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Without wanting to be z-way centric, HS is indeed a decent choice for zwave as a holistic controller, not needing anything else but... It is very very expensive. Its integrations are good but nowhere near as good as home assistant and again very expensive. And lastly it doesn't have any decent API for it to use as a device controller which would enable people to overcome its inconveniences which is cost and insufficient integrations. So no I don't really recommend homeseer. It is good if it fits exactly what you are seeking in terms of control and integration and are willing to pay the $$$. I downloaded it, used the free version for some time and though it is stable, it lacks the flexibility of openLuup in automation and the completeness and user friendliness of z-way in zwave command class level controls. Each has its pros and cons but homeseer has no good way to overcome its cons unlike others you can make work with others.
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@Black-Cat said in Vera or not vera?:
The point I was trying to make is that you can trial HS software without a UZB, also there is other software than Z-Way.
I'm hoping that the forum doesn't become Z-Way centric as there other good options available as well including Home Assistant.100%.
These are just opinions based on individual experience... what else could they be?
If there was a ‘perfect’ answer, then we wouldn’t need a forum.
Edit: I should back up this philosophy with the very practical note that I am not, in fact, now, even ZWave centric, abandoning it for almost everything (can’t find a good replacement yet for two pulse-counter meter readers or MiniMote four-button hand-held controllers.)
I’ve surprised myself by being impressed with Shelly WiFi-based devices.
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@sender said in Vera or not vera?:
(can’t find a good replacement yet for two pulse-counter meter readers or MiniMote four-button hand-held controllers.)
Have a look at esphome.io
Yes, thanks. You (or someone else) May have pointed this out previously?
I have no problem building my own stuff (I used to use MySensor Arduino-based sensors) but have been trying to move towards more consumer-based hardware (Philips Hue, etc.) for easier maintenance in the future (possibly by others, rather than myself.)
It would seem that a natural response for a new owner acquiring a home-made smart home would be to rip it all out and start again, but an infrastructure of commercial, and documented, systems would, perhaps, be more likely to be retained?
A theme for a separate topic, perhaps.
