Controller shift - How do you do it ?
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Using the vera backup process you would have to go up or remain on the same version. If you backed up your vera which is on 6.01 into a stick in 6.02, you should be able to restore onto another vera with an SDK 6.02 and above. Have you tried that? Upgrading the vera?
To answer your question if you have both your controller with the same node ID, it will cause a mess to your network. In that case I would add the second controller so it takes a different node ID. (I ran vera and zway together this way for several months).
Here is the type of mess it will cause:
Controller1: turn the light one
Light: Ok the light is on
Controller2: Got it... euh What? who told you to?
Controller1: Are you on yet? Timeout, let me ask again. Retry!This will cause the network to be very busy as nodes do not who to report back to or think they already reported and got an ack...
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Using the vera backup process you would have to go up or remain on the same version. If you backed up your vera which is on 6.01 into a stick in 6.02, you should be able to restore onto another vera with an SDK 6.02 and above. Have you tried that? Upgrading the vera?
To answer your question if you have both your controller with the same node ID, it will cause a mess to your network. In that case I would add the second controller so it takes a different node ID. (I ran vera and zway together this way for several months).
Here is the type of mess it will cause:
Controller1: turn the light one
Light: Ok the light is on
Controller2: Got it... euh What? who told you to?
Controller1: Are you on yet? Timeout, let me ask again. Retry!This will cause the network to be very busy as nodes do not who to report back to or think they already reported and got an ack...
Thanks @rafale77
@rafale77 said in Controller shift - How do you do it ?:
If you backed up your vera which is on 6.01 into a stick in 6.02, you should be able to restore onto another vera with an SDK 6.02 and above. Have you tried that? Upgrading the vera?
How can I upgrade the onboard zwave firmware on my VeraSecure, which is on v6.01?
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Oh gosh... I need to remember this. I think at one point I found the firmware for the chip and using a serial updater, managed to manually upgrade the chip firmware through SSH. That was a long time ago. I think I published how to do this in the old forum but not sure if it's been deleted. At the moment, I no longer have any veras... Also the Vera secure runs on a different/cheaper chip than the vera plus I had.. Why don't you just let the vera run on the dongle?
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Oh gosh... I need to remember this. I think at one point I found the firmware for the chip and using a serial updater, managed to manually upgrade the chip firmware through SSH. That was a long time ago. I think I published how to do this in the old forum but not sure if it's been deleted. At the moment, I no longer have any veras... Also the Vera secure runs on a different/cheaper chip than the vera plus I had.. Why don't you just let the vera run on the dongle?
@rafale77 said in Controller shift - How do you do it ?:
Why don't you just let the vera run on the dongle?
I was looking to repurpose the UZB1 dongle and use it on something else like a raspberry pi.
Also what do you mean the Secure has a different cheaper (lesser quality ?) zwave chip compared to the plus ? Where can I look that up ?
Most of the specs I’d seen on the Verasecure had suggested that it was a performance bump compared to the plus, i.e dual cpu, more memory etc?
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@rafale77 said in Controller shift - How do you do it ?:
Why don't you just let the vera run on the dongle?
I was looking to repurpose the UZB1 dongle and use it on something else like a raspberry pi.
Also what do you mean the Secure has a different cheaper (lesser quality ?) zwave chip compared to the plus ? Where can I look that up ?
Most of the specs I’d seen on the Verasecure had suggested that it was a performance bump compared to the plus, i.e dual cpu, more memory etc?
You must have missed my posts there... It has an extra CPU core indeed but the DRAM is unused by the software and the flash drive was catastrophically partitioned... netting less useable space than the Plus. After they got bought and my posts about the disastrous engineering they noodled around the partition with symlink (which I initiated with a script I provided on the forum too). I later moved on to boot the vera off of a USB SSD. I know about the zwave chip only because I dug into it. It makes no difference in functionality as the bridge mode the plus and edge had were not used by the vera. It makes the zwave firmware different though.
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Thanks @rafale77
Sorry i missed that, but I do recall your exroot discussions a while back, as I’m still tempted to do that.
So in your opinion, given the choice of running your home on a VeraPlus or a VeraSecure*, which one would you choose ?
*The VeraSecure is a bricked one I picked up for next to nothing, and somehow managed to restore, so it’s basically a free swap.
(QQ : Is there a specific script for the VeraSecure, as I could only see Edge & Plus files listed on your github page - > https://github.com/rafale77/vera-extroot)
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I didn't test extroot on the verasecure because I didn't have one to try it on. I think others on the forum did it and reported to work fine. There is nothing about the vera secure which makes it perform better than the plus. The extra core is unused... the vera UI is single threaded. It also does not use the CPU enough for the speed to make a difference. Same for the DRAM. The only benefit is the battery which to me would be more of a problem than benefit since they have limited lifetime and prevent me from easily power cycling the unit.
