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I don't know if I'm the only one, but managing more than one Reactor installs, the need to have some sort of copy&paste for rules has grown on me. While I understand the technical challenges, I'm wondering if a "god mode" where I could copy the raw JSON rule and paste it into another rule could be an advanced, flag only feature that could benefit power users. I know I can copy the JSON file and proceed, but I must stop Reactor and when doing maintenance, it's more clicks to do. Just an idea
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therealdbT
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Ways to find controller's external IP address using MSR

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    #9

    This trigger isn't working for me. I am getting a lot of false triggers where its saying my WAN IP address has changed when it hasn't.

    Sometimes it's showing a value of

    ${{ myIP.ip }}

    And then the rule fires suggesting the WAN IP has changed when it hasn't.

    I need the "changes" trigger to only trigger if its validated more than once or over a period of time, that the actual WAN IP address has changed and its not some blip or problem or slowness with it working out what the WAN IP really is.

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      Good catch. Sounds like some other condition is called for, which either inspects the contents of myIP.ip for a suitable RegEx match (e.g. digits and dots) or verifies that the contained value is not NULL, or at least different from the literal ${{}} you experienced.

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        That non-substituted value means that the expression failed. Check the log. I suspect that the query is failing from time to time, resulting in no data to myIP. That would also be in the log. The query failing will clear myIP, and that would make myIP.ip throw an evaluation error.

        This would be a good use for the ?. operator: myIP?.ip will return null if the fetch fails and myIP gets cleared, rather than throwing an error. You can then test for that null.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          #12

          I've changed the rule to use "myIP?.ip" instead that seems to still work OK and my current WAN IP is brought down from the online API request.

          As for the false triggering when the query is failing from time to time, I tried setting the trigger "for at least X secs"

          Expression Value: ip changes from 11.222.333.444 to (any) for at least 360 secs

          However this doesn't seem to work at all. I turned off my VPN and the WAN IP address changed, the rule that checks for the IP worked and the global expression contains the new IP address.

          However the other rule that is meant to trigger on expression value changes from specified IP to any other IP / value never fired.

          So I am not sure what is the best way to setup this trigger, so it works and doesn't false fire if the expression value goes to null / the http request query didn't happen to work that time.

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            I was going to suggest the ol' "Sustained for __ seconds" trick, so glad you landed upon the same solution. Unclear why something would "stop working" just because of that. Have you checked the Logs? And is the secondary Rule enabled?

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              I was going to suggest the ol' "Sustained for __ seconds" trick, so glad you landed upon the same solution. Unclear why something would "stop working" just because of that. Have you checked the Logs? And is the secondary Rule enabled?

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              @librasun If I removed the sustained for X seconds it starts "working" again but I am still getting false triggers though sometimes.

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                Thought I'd try this one instead:

                e3161ba3-2fe8-46bb-b1f2-68bef1a8bc2d-image.png

                Is this a bug however ? I cannot set that to more than 60 seconds if I put in 360 seconds and save it reverts back to 60 seconds.

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                  The changes operator produces a pulsed output (otherwise you would never be notified of two or more changes sequentially). A pulsed output cannot be "sustained", because it only ever lasts 10ms or less.

                  Since you are testing "changes from expected to anything else", that's really not logically different from "not equal to expected". Use a plain equality/inequality. That will produce a sustained output for which the sustained for restriction can be used.

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    The changes operator produces a pulsed output (otherwise you would never be notified of two or more changes sequentially). A pulsed output cannot be "sustained", because it only ever lasts 10ms or less.

                    Since you are testing "changes from expected to anything else", that's really not logically different from "not equal to expected". Use a plain equality/inequality. That will produce a sustained output for which the sustained for restriction can be used.

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                    @toggledbits

                    OK thanks that makes sense.

                    I will not use "Changes" then in the trigger.

                    Instead I will try <> NOT expected value (IP address) and use a sustained for X secs.

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                      On my end I'll tighten up the UI so that option can't be selected when the changes operator is used.

                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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