After the veralert service was shut down and Richard confirmed that it will not be available again, I searched for a new notification service to use in my vere secure. I signed up for the PushOver service.
I want to take a snapshot from a camera with camera snapshot address “192.168.4.37/img/snapshot.cgi?size=4&quality=1” and video address “192.168.4.37/img/video.mjpeg” according to a trigger.
Actually, someone (Tlex) did a work about this years ago on the vera forum, but I couldn't understand that script. I also wrote to him to be more descriptive, but I didn't get an answer. Can you help me with this?
With their awesome new X10 switch!
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I'm hopping in my 1980s time machine to go see whether this is exactly what I think it is. 🙂
(Srsly, tho, I love(d) X10 and did everything humanly possible to keep that old equipment perking along with Vera, and almost succeeded.)
LibraP.S. Just got banned for the 9th time from Hubitat Forum, so had a little extra time to throw shade.
P.P.S. The boilerplate 5-star reviews for this brand-new product come from bots with names like Avery, Phoenix and Owen (two from Mateo!). Sheesh.
Let's assume you have done the following:
Downloaded and installed Z-Way following these instructions. No Zway license is required to do the following. The software is now all up and running with your UZB stick (whole other post). Dial up this Zway web page: http://<Zway_server_IP_address>:8083/expert/#/network/controller Under the heading "Firmware" take note of the "SDK version" and the "Serial API Version". Say they equal 6.71.01 & 05.23 respectively like it shows here.Now on to Vera:
Go to the Vera UI --> Z-Wave Settings and taken note of the "Version" shown for Vera's internal Zwave IC. For example purposes, say it equals "6.01". You plug your UZB stick into Vera. In the Z-Wave Settings you set the port to "/dev/ttyACM0" You've rebooted Vera, so that it starts using the UZB stick.OK, so what "Version" will Vera now display and the version of what? The version shown by Vera is the "Z-Wave protocol" version or the "Serial API" version - it's unclear which but I suspect the former. However on most occasions the numbers are the same. It's not the Software Developers Kit (SDK) version number.
Knowing the UZB firmware version you can identify what Vera will show with the following table.
From the example above: Zway stated the version as 5.23. It will show in Vera as version 4.61 - see table. However the Vera internals showed up as 6.01. So using this method to copy the Zwave configuration to the stick will not work, as the stick represents a downgrade and you can only do same to same or upgrades. So in this case you need to update the stick firmware from 5.23 to 5.32 as a minimum. Then the stick will show up in Vera with version of 6.01.
Which is great. So you then use the Zway software to upgrade the stick firmware. And that's the last you hear from it because this happens:
"Sorry to inform you, but there is a known issue in some UZB manufactured by our partners on license base that after upgrade they become bricked."
And you have to do this to unbrick it. So time to try someone else's stick. Sigh.
ZWay UZB version Vera version SDK version 5.39 6.09 6.82.01 6.08 6.82.00 6.07 6.81.06 6.06 6.81.05 6.05 6.81.04 6.04 6.81.03 6.03 6.81.02 5.37 6.02 6.81.01 5.36 6.02??? 6.81.00 ???? 5.33 6.02??? 6.81.00 ???? 5.32 6.01 6.81.00 5.03 6.71.03 5.02 6.71.02 5.27 BL 48059 4.61 6.71.0? 5.26 4.61 6.71.0? 5.23 4.61 6.71.01 4.6 6.71.00 5.2 4.6? 6.7?.00 5.16 4.6? 6.70.00 4.62 6.61.01 4.33 6.61.00 4.54 6.51.10 5.07 4.38 6.51.09 4.34 6.51.08 4.24 6.51.07 4.05 6.51.06 5.06 4.01 6.51.04 3.99 6.51.03 3.95 6.51.02 3.92 6.51.01 3.83 6.51.00 3.79 6.50.01 3.71 6.50.00 3.67 3.35 6.10.00 3.41 6.02.00 3.37 6.01.03 2.78The table is based on page 434 of silabs app INS13954 and the UZB firmware revision information found here. The table may have errors!
The vera can run both its zwave and zigbee network off of external USB radios instead of the onboard ones. This could have advantages in terms of portability, facilitating migrations or recoveries in case the vera craps out. It could also enable testing of newer radio firmwares.
Zwave is pretty straightforward as its serial API is standardized and the protocol is the same regardless of what brand of USB stick you use. I have run my vera off of USB sticks of various brands for years going from Aeotec, Zooz, Homeseer and even the most generic silabs/Sigma Design. You just insert the stick in the usb port, find out which serial port it created (under the /dev/ folder) and use that port (ie. /dev/ttyACM0, /dev/ttyUSB0 etc) in the zwave advance menu.
Zigbee is a little trickier as the protocol and chipset was not quite as standardized as zwave. The vera only works with ember Znet protocol and you will need to find a usb stick with an EM35x chip in it which already has an ember zigbee firmware loaded. One example of such a stick is the Go Control HUSBZB1 (dual zwave-zigbee stick). The port is not readily accessible on the vera UI but can be accessed either through editing of the /etc/cmh/user-data.json or through ALTUI by going into the hidden zigbee radio device through the "table devices " menu and changing modifying the port variable there.
You can also upgrade the onboard zwave and zigbee radio firmwares from the command line SSH...
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Hello everybody.
I would like to automate the underfloor heating. At the moment I have the gateway from vera secure and thermostat with receiver from SRT SECURE with z-wave. I would like to connect to the gateway a receiver with 4 channels from sonoff and 3 temperature and humidity sensors from aliexpress as a thermostat. do you think it is possible?
and one more question... how can I change the name of the wireless network and the password from the gateway?
Thank you very much!
Script to disable all the mios/vera proprietary program and broadcast its zwave and zigbee radio serial ports in your network so it can be picked up by another controller... For example z-way.
GitHub - rafale77/Nuke-Vera: Script to neuter the vera and broadcast its zwave and zigbee serial ports GitHub - rafale77/Nuke-Vera: Script to neuter the vera and broadcast its zwave and zigbee serial portsScript to neuter the vera and broadcast its zwave and zigbee serial ports - rafale77/Nuke-Vera
Good morning all,
I've got a stable Home Assistant running on a RPI 4 with a Aeotec Z-Stick 7 Plus, and of course the Z-wave JS integration. I've manually moved a handful of devices, and I'm overall much happier with the HA z-wave capability than I am with Vera. There are still some things I'm trying to figure out that I have in Vera that I'm not sure how they'll work in HA, but no deal breakers.
I've got all of my automation on MSR and off of luup Reactor, so really the only thing left for me is to migrate my Z-wave network. I saw @rafale77's post about using a Zwave.me UZB1 to Zway, but of course that's not what I'm using.
Is there a similar method that I can use my Aeotec Z-Stick 7 plus to Home Assistant? I have around 70 Z-wave devices (give or take devices that generate multiple instances in Vera), so manual unpairing, including, etc, would be quite a chore.
So ... I am trying to do the following:
Current setup:
Vera Plus (1.7.4955) Zwave only -> HASSIO VM (full control via Vera Integration)
Future Target:
HASSIO VM (leveraging zwave.me UZB1 dongle via USB)
I have done the following so far:
Updated UZB1 dongle (via RPi SmartHome) to latest 5.39 FirmwareI followed the following steps to try and migrate my existing Z-Wave NW (currently on Vera) onto the UZB1 dongle following the steps listed here:
Migrate from Vera to Z-way
Problem:
Steps 1-3: went fine (although the dumps are labeled as dongle.6.1.dump.x)
Step 4: went fine and the UZB1 was recognized as it should be (per dmesg)
Step 5: updating the port to /dev/ttyACM0 went fine, although I didn't see any indication of luup reload (or a save button for that matter when updating the port mapping)
Step 6: I did the touch for dongle.restore, but wasn't sure where to trigger a luup reload (I assumed it was Z-Wave Settings > Advanced > Reload Engine). I believe I got an error message when trying to do that step
Step 7: verify dongle.restore.go I don't recall being in the directions when I was going the test, but I rebooted
Post Reboot: None of my previous z-wave devices were listed. I also checked dmesg via ssh and noticed the following items:
[ 4.328000] Unsupported Device! [ 4.328000] Vendor=658 ProdID=200 [ 4.328000] Manufacturer= Product=I saw that item a couple times which almost seems like Vera is blocking the UZB1 or at least complaining about it.
I ended up switching the Z-Wave back to the embedded controller, and restoring configuration from backup.
Any suggestions what I did wrong??
Having trouble getting a Vera 3 to recognise a Z-Wave.Me UZB stick.
WinSCP indicates it's mounted at /dev/ttyACM0, so the Vera Z-Wave settings were adjusted to match. On a Luup engine reload Vera UI states: "ZWave : Failed To Start". Ditto for a complete Vera reboot.
Has anyone successfully used a UZB stick with a Vera 3?
Hello Everyone,
I am using iPhone locator on Vera, and yesterday it stopped working. Looking at the logs, I can see the connection is refused, but nothing on my end changed. iPhone locator is really important in my particular setup, so I guess I have two questions.
Is it broken, or is it me?
I don't see anyone else saying there is an issue, but I am not sure how many people are still using it (or Vera for location) at this point. I installed it on a blank Vera test controller, same issue. It might be something with the iCloud account, but it works everywhere else.
Is there something similar on another platform?
Mainly what I would like is the ability to force a poll of iCloud location on demand. I have a bunch of triggers setup, including magnetic sensors in my driveway to sense vehicles and determine if the motion is egress or ingress. These triggers in conjunction with MSR have been a great way to double check phone location, and I would hate to lose this functionality. It looks like HA might have something with "iCloud3". Is anyone using it?
Thanks,
Mike
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The only thing left on Vera is now electricity meter readers, and I simply can't find any suitable WiFi replacement.
My hem stopped reporting this august and I’ve replaced it with a Shelly EM. I’m using another one on my solar and they’re amazing fast to report and quite precise. They’re WiFi, and mqtt based. Recommended!
Long story short: I need to tweak some parameters for Fibaro Plugs, to remove frequent notifications about watts (I just need a very good approximation, in order to detect the cycle of washer/dryer), but the parameters depend on the firmware version, and I have:
271,1554,21554
and the other one has:
271,4102,0
Any help is apprreciated.
Have Aeotec Smart Switch 6 in use with Vera Plus (fw 7.31 - 1.7.5186, decoupled) and now as I'm trying to change its configuration, it seems impossible.
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"Save changes" just initiates luup reload, but parameters stay the same. "Configure node right now" does not help either, Vera informs that command sent, but nothing happens. Hard refresh of the browser done.
Device itself is working, e.g. it reports current wattage.
"Automatically configure" is set to "No", if set to "Yes", configuration change is initiated but fails with the message "Failed at: Setting special association"
EDIT: in the end this was solved by unplugging the switch and then plugging it back, some internal state corrupted...
So, I recently added Pi-Hole (pi-hole.net) to my networked clients for its open-sourced Ad and Tracker Blocking. Essentially, it’s a DNS Blacklisting solution and it can display the Domains being accessed.
To my dismay I’m seeing the VERA+ attempting calls to facebook.com on a regular basis between 20 – 70 minutes each.
The Active apps on VERA are Sercomm IP Camera, Amazon Alexa Helper, Garage Door, Foscam HD, Reator, SiteSensor and Ezlo Cameras. I just recently removed AltUI before disconnecting from the cloud services.
Any ideas on how I could track down the culprit caller?
Thanks for your consideration.
I've got a Nokia/Withings bathroom scale on which I weigh myself daily. I used to use IFTTT to push every weighing result into a Google Spreadsheet in the cloud, but now that I use MSR, I'm more interested in integrating this data into that workflow.
Has anyone figured out a way to move data from a WiFi-connected scale into the Vera environment? I don't mind trying something indirect, as for instance I've already linked the weights over to my Google Fit app.
Open to suggestions!
Recently I have been getting constant reloads on my Vera Plus running the latest 7.32 beta build. It usually starts after a 3-4 day Luup uptime and the reloads start at around 5am local time and keep going every 30 mins until I physically restart my Vera Plus (unplugging and plugging it back in). Right before a reload I see on the status bar above the modes on the homepage "cannot write user data" then after a few minutes a reload occurs. Looking into the logs I have seen mention of 03 06/21/21 8:53:18.102 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::Reload: low memory Critical 1 m_bCriticalOnly 0 dirty data 1 running 1 <0x76aa7520> almost every single time a reload happens. I have attached logs from 2 instances this morning where a reload happened. I have noticed that the OpenSprinkler plugin has been very chatty even though I have set debugging to 0, is that what is filling up temp log system?
01 06/21/21 8:45:58.123 IOPort::Connect connect -1 192.168.8.43:23 <0x6a148520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.031 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244271 1244271 <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.333 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234865 save size 234865 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.333 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.334 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.334 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.341 UserData::WriteUserData failed File Size: 234865 save size 234902 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.342 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.344 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.632 UserData::WriteUserData failed result:1 size2:234865 vs 234865 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.632 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.634 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.635 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.635 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.636 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.636 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 1 now: 2 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x1099d38/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.637 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: Resetting ZWave Network #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x1a02d48/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.637 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 0 now: 3 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.638 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: GET_LANG(resetting_zigbee_network,Resetting Zigbee Network) #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x12b9e60/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.648 RAServerSync::SendAlert notification lost quit 1 device 50002761 servers:vera-us-oem-event12.mios.com/vera-us-oem-event11.mios.com for time 23822220 type 7 code user_data <0x7642b520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.381 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244349 1244349 <0x770dc320> 01 06/21/21 8:46:01.675 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234875 save size 234875 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.675 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.676 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.676 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 01 06/21/21 8:46:01.680 UserData::WriteUserData failed File Size: 234875 save size 234865 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.680 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.682 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 01 06/21/21 8:46:01.940 UserData::WriteUserData failed result:1 size2:234875 vs 234875 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.941 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.943 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.944 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.945 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.945 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 50 06/21/21 8:46:03.102 luup_log:1304: VeraOpenSprinkler[1.50]: [updateFromController] error: false - nil - nil <0x72581520> 01 06/21/21 8:46:05.210 Main WatchDogRoutine: blocked - terminating 1 <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 Dumping 40 locks <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 OL: (0xbbc560) (>100746) Variable JobHandler_LuaUPnP.cpp l:9817 time: 4:00:00p (1624290365 s) thread: 0x6f948520 Rel: Y Got: Y <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.218 OL: (0xbbc560) (>100751) Variable JobHandler_LuaUPnP.cpp l:9817 time: 4:00:00p (1624290365 s) thread: 0x6d948520 Rel: Y Got: Y <0x695de520> 2021-06-21 08:46:05 - LuaUPnP Terminated with Exit Code: 137 03 06/21/21 8:53:18.102 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::Reload: low memory Critical 1 m_bCriticalOnly 0 dirty data 1 running 1 <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.103 luup_log:901: Tesla Car_error: Monitor awake state, failed #400 HTTP/1.1 400 BAD REQUEST !! <0x72ffd520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.482 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244185 1244185 <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.781 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234865 save size 234865 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.781 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.781 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.782 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.787 UserData::WriteUserData failed File Size: 234865 save size 234875 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.787 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.789 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.813 IOPort::Connect connect -1 192.168.8.43:23 <0x6a7c4520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:19.020 UserData::WriteUserData failed result:1 size2:234865 vs 234865 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.020 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.023 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.027 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.028 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.028 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.029 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 1 now: 2 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x14bad80/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.029 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: Resetting ZWave Network #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x1e23b10/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.033 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 0 now: 3 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:19.040 RAServerSync::SendAlert notification lost quit 1 device 50002761 servers:vera-us-oem-event12.mios.com/vera-us-oem-event11.mios.com for time 20546340 type 7 code user_data <0x76ca7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.044 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: GET_LANG(resetting_zigbee_network,Resetting Zigbee Network) #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x16dadc0/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:20.807 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244263 1244263 <0x77759320> 01 06/21/21 8:53:21.081 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234875 save size 234875 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.081 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.116 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.117 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 699 res:1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 504 Jun 26 2017 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.luup.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234865 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234996 Jun 21 08:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234930 Jun 21 08:02 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234968 Jun 21 07:47 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234658 Jun 21 07:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234909 Jun 21 06:50 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234875 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.new <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.228 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.259 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.259 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 610 res:1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 504 Jun 26 2017 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.luup.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234875 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234865 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234996 Jun 21 08:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234930 Jun 21 08:02 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234968 Jun 21 07:47 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234658 Jun 21 07:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.5 <0x77759320> 06 06/21/21 8:53:21.465 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeDevice1 variable: PendingRemoveDevices was: 0024460000144655-01d8,0024460000146120-a155,00244600001467ad-a538 now: 0024460000144655-01d8,0024460000146120-a155,00244600001467ad-a538 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:1 <0x77759320> 06 06/21/21 8:53:21.469 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeDevice1 variable: UnknownDevices was: now: #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:1 <0x77759320> 03 06/21/21 8:53:22.100 LuaUPNP: ending <0x77759320> 2021-06-21 08:53:22 - LuaUPnP Terminated with Exit Code: 0```Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device
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UPDATE: Yes, I was a fool. But at least Vera slowly brought each of the child devices back into the UI, albeit with vastly changed Device Numbers. Fortunately, MSR kept track of the old dev# for each, and I was able to systematically go back and update the
idfor each, rename them correctly, place them in appropriate rooms, etc.PHEW! Disaster averted.
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- Undo = recover from backup so always backup before any configuration step.
- The configuration process is a disaster on the vera because it is much too device specific and because of the insane chattiness of the z-wave network created by its stupid and destructive "maintenance features". A lot of retries and luck are necessary to capture a time window where the messages go through (at least on larger networks and even more so with security class devices). Also the fact that the configuration are unnecessary linearly sequenced makes it restart from scratch every time... Z-way is night and day in all of these respects.
- There is a profound design issue on the vera whereby the term "configuration" confuses parameters stored on the vera and the ones on the device. Other platforms give you a choice to read or write the device parameters on either list... not so on the vera which has the tendency to want to rewrite everything on the device by default according to its device specific configuration which is not always correct.
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If you're on 7.32, run this:
vera/Scripts/ZwaveStabilization.lua at master · dbochicchio/vera
LUA Scripts for the eZlo Vera Platform (UI7). Contribute to dbochicchio/vera development by creating an account on GitHub.
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@librasun said in Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device:
Many thanks, Gents! Nice believing that I am neither the first nor last to spazz in this manner.
Radical thought, but you could move to Openluup
Then all these problems would vanish...like tears in the rain......
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@catmanv2 said in Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device:
Radical thought, but you could move to Openluup
Too true! It's time. I've intentionally been putting off the move for years, principally because I struggle to "remain stock" for the sake of other non-tech savvy users.
That mission hasn't paid many dividends, up to and including getting booted from the old Forum despite being in the Top 10 Contributors column, LOL.
Promise I'll give it a try as soon as I'm done beta testing MSR!! (One thing at a time, eh?)
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Can't speak enough praise of openLuup but you already would expect that. I chuckle these days at my initial reaction to @akbooer's long post about his experience on the vera, introducing openLuup and my dismissive attitude: "another one complaining... I am not seeing these problems (yet), I am sure they are overstated and just take a little more experimenting to make the vera work..." Gosh how wrong was I! I did try though.
openLuup takes all the things done right on the vera, fixes a number of wrongs and demonstrates that the vera platform (lua engine, luup, API, plugin concept) could have been more than viable and scalable. To this day, I still prefer writing my automation and plugins on lua in openLuup over home-assistant (which I am finding horrible at this with all kinds of jinja templating and yaml mix) or in java (I used iobroker for some time) or Groovym the language used by hubitat. -
While I greatly admire the "roll your own" set, I've promised my significant other that -- if I die -- everything Vera and Alexa do to run our home will be maintainable by a normal mortal. Hence my clinging to stock setups, with minimal round trips through IFTTT (gone from the mix now), Stringify (dead), Google Scripts, etc. Would not even touch PLEG due to this philosophy!
It was not until I discovered Reactor that I began delving into fancy automations, still click-and-play, very little coding. And it was not until I realized what ezlo's endgame TRULY was (despite 1-2 years of obfuscation, deception and outright lies) that I began "thinking outside the box" and planning a move toward another controller. (FYI, owing to your recommendations, Hubitat is at the top of my list, with the ISY994i close behind!)
And it wasn't until @toggledbits came along with MSR that the door began to really open, to where I will feel comfortable jumping ship entirely. Whatever I do, it's gotta have significantly higher reliability and WAF than ever before. That's why I haven't left the house in nearly 3 weeks of testing MSR down to the bare metal; it's my lifeline of the future. All bets are in!
If OpenLuup helps me oil the hinges of that door, all the better!!
P.S. I'm not saying I want ezlo to fail; if they achieve even 80% of what has been promised, theirs too will be controllers well worth considering (and I already own two of them!). But that is clearly years down the road, if ever, and I ain't got time for that!!
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@librasun I totally understand your philosophy and tried to stick with stock setups as well but who has the time and patient to wait for Ezlo to accomplish a fraction of what is available already today.
That said, I'm so thrilled I started migrating to openLuup and MSR, best decision ever! Sure it's not going to be easy for anyone to take over this setup but the possibilities and stability is totally worth it.@akbooer and @toggledbits you guys rock!!
Homebridge is the key for Apple devices regarding manual control for WAF.
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@librasun said in Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device:
While I greatly admire the "roll your own" set, I've promised my significant other that -- if I die -- everything Vera and Alexa do to run our home will be maintainable by a normal mortal
Just think about how a normal mortal would look at this most recent experience.......
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@librasun said in Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device:
everything Vera and Alexa do to run our home will be maintainable by a normal mortal.
I also applaud the sentiment, but rather doubt this.
Whilst I'm (somewhat) invested in openLuup, I've begun simplifying and standardizing my HA environment, gradually weeding out Vera (not quite done yet), RPi (in favour of a Synology NAS), Zwave (in favour of Philips Hue and Sheelies.) Even then, I have no doubt that the final result will be for my survivor to call an electrician and rip everything out.
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@akbooer said in Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device:
@librasun said in Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device:
everything Vera and Alexa do to run our home will be maintainable by a normal mortal.
I also applaud the sentiment, but rather doubt this.
Whilst I'm (somewhat) invested in openLuup, I've begun simplifying and standardizing my HA environment, gradually weeding out Vera (not quite done yet), RPi (in favour of a Synology NAS), Zwave (in favour of Philips Hue and Sheelies.) Even then, I have no doubt that the final result will be for my survivor to call an electrician and rip everything out.
Only when it stops working, though. Which of course it will.
But ours, right now, just works. So much so that on the very few occasions Alexa stops, I'm damned if I can recall how to control it manually.
Worse, even though I documented all my Reactors with notes in every instance, I still have to reverse engineer what happens when I do something different.C
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@crille said in Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device:
Without openLuup and the excellent Ezlo Bridge, my Ezlo Plus would just annoy me and make me want to go somewhere else, as they kind of hinted with the ban raid.
Big thanks to @mrFarmer ! for making use of the very beta product they shipped.Indeed, The capability to support all the wireless stacks and offering an API to control the stack should have been a day 0 pre-release requirement. I am glad they got there and kind of wished they stuck with the vera API to ease the transition but certainly @mrFarmer 's work made up for it.
@librasun said in Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device:
While I greatly admire the "roll your own" set, I've promised my significant other that -- if I die -- everything Vera and Alexa do to run our home will be maintainable by a normal mortal. Hence my clinging to stock setups, with minimal round trips through IFTTT (gone from the mix now), Stringify (dead), Google Scripts, etc. Would not even touch PLEG due to this philosophy!
This is the philosophy that most people who migrated away to hubitat have had in mind. Prioritizing ease of management over capability and flexibility and even then, some learning curve is required. Just keep in mind though that any cloud dependency will defeat that in a whiff. Anytime you will have a cloud dependent integration (IFTTT, google, ecobee, alexa) you are exposing yourself to the life and decision of that company. Any time they change something on their cloud or if they go bankrupt or get bought, you will need a great amount of expertise to make the changes/maintenance if that is even possible. I took this goal to an extreme where I am no longer afraid of going through very complex setup so long as it works without maintenance. The only way to do this is to make everything run independent from the cloud. The only maintenance which would be required on my setup would be to change batteries... Everything else just self starts and syncs up without anything ever being exposed to cloud server disruptions, changes or quirks all within a single machine: My QNAP NAS. Near 0 maintenance required...
None of my cameras are connected to the cloud, no image processing, no voice commands recording, No TTS commands... Absolutely nothing. All is processed within the house and all the data remains here in one machine which turns on with the push of a button. And indeed, everything runs a lot faster too.
So it is a trade off of short term ease of setup and maintenance (maybe) with lower level of capability vs. much more capable setup with a larger amount of setup work upfront resulting in nearly no maintenance... I understand the experience with the vera though which can be traumatizing and leading to the thought that complex implementation leads to complex maintenance. This doesn't have to be true. In most cases, it is actually the opposite. It is only true when they break all the time... vera style.
