Need to ask, have thougth about this since the move from Rector to MSR I think.
What is the difference between putting constraints under trigger groups, like this
Compared to this similar rule, but the time limits is under contraints instead?
I think the Constraints parts in manual is still to be done because I can only find in the chapter menu, but it is not mentioned anywhere else.
So I will try to remake this thread to some kind of guide for future use, or in worst case a documentation of my failure. At least that could also be useful for letting someone know what didn't work...
I have zero knowledge of programming, so every time I need to edit a config file in HomeAssistant or similar it requires a good portion of googletime and read, re-reading instructions.
Also is english not my native language, so bear with me.
1: Get MSR to take notice (and then actions of course) of pressed buttons on remotes.
2: Document what I do in hope I can help someone else in the future.
I will use a Fibaro Keyfob as described below, but what I understand from Togglebits answers most type of remotes should work in similar ways.
Fibaro Keyfob support in MSR? (thru Hassio & Z-wave JS)
I just bought a Fibaro Keyfob FGKF-601 and plan to give this to my son so he can control some stuff in his own room. Primary some lightning and Sonos, maybe blinds in the future.
As the noob I am it will, of course, not work as I expected.👶🏻
The remote handle 1x, 2x, 3x clicks per button (six of them) and "release button"
I thought that it would appear like some "scene controller" in HA and that I could make Rules in MSR depending on what scene-entety that was triggered.
So is not the case, and if that is because of HA, Z-wave JS or MSR I have no idea.
I found a HA Blueprint that works in HA, but of course I would prefer to keep all automation in MSR.
I guess a workaround could be using HA virtual switches "Helpers" that I suppose will come up as an on/off trigger in MSR, but before going this way I would like to check with the wisdom of your guys if there is a better way of doing this.
I am using:
MSR 22168 on windows.
Home Assistant Core 2022.6.7
Home Assistant Supervisor 2022.05.3
Home Assistant OS 7.6
Z-Wave JS version: 0.1.64
Running MSR 22123 in Docker container and trying to use "condition must occur after" option. Will update to the latest build and log a PR if needed, but wanted to poll first if anyone is using this option successfully?
I have the following rules:
Notification activity connected to "Alarm disabled" rule did not trigger. I also did another test with quite simple rules and that didn't work either (FWIIW - when observing that test in "real-time", I didn't see any timer running on the second rule while the first rule was true).
As said, before going further with debug/logs, nice to know if someone is using this option/restriction (successfully).
online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Before updating to 22178 there was a primary value echoed in MQTTControllers echo capability, can I tell the controller which value to put as primary from HASS sensors after this change as it now is null? or is it a bug?
I have not changed theprimary_attributes: true
Reactor latest-22178 bare metal
Edit: Solved in build 22179
I have a system that I consider pretty stable, running in a VM Ubuntu 20.04, it has some communication failures, but I think more by HE than by the OS/MSR.
I'm thinking of taking the next step to get more advantages from the system, and I'm thinking of using InfluxDB maybe for queries or to extend rules.
The question is, I would like practical examples of what really helps to install InfluxDB? What would you be doing that really makes a difference with this installation? Can you post examples of features or information?
MSR had a docker image file naming convention change, and I am not exactly sure how to swap the image out. I'm sure it's not rocket science, I've just never done this before.
I am using a Synology NAS, and under the environment tab there is a "REACTOR_IMAGE" variable. Can I just change the image name to the new image naming convention and clear the container, or should I launch a new container and populate the volume location from the previous reactor?
Thanks in advance
Please can anyone give me advice on a cheap way to run MSR (both initial cost and ongoing electricity cost). I currently run it on my QNAP network drive (which works very well incidentally). However, this draws a constant 35Watts (£90/yr @ 30p/kWh) and given the recent rise in fuel costs I am evaluating the best way forwards. Note, I only really need to turn my QNAP on for an hour a week to back-up my computer data. I understand that MSR can run on a Raspberry PI, but I am not competent with Linux! Thanks.
I have made good progress setting up a new Raspberry PI 4 with the latest OS (64bit) and latest Reactor images in Docker. However I am not able to copy my configuraiton files (.yml) and reactor reactions over. I am not yet that confident with linux commands, so I have tired to drag and drop the files from a USB drive to the working folders in my new Raspberry PI. I am getting a popup in the GUI stating 'The file operation was completed with errors.' and Errors occured: "rule-xxxxxx.json: Error opening file "/home/pi/reactor/....................................json":Permission denied.
I suspect it's something to do with permissions?
Is there an easier way to copy my configuration over??
Hello All -
I'm gradually moving away from Vera to Home Assistant. I've recently gotten the Alexa and Mini Media Player setup in Home Assistant and everything is working well.
Is there a way to call this service from Reactor? My goal is to send TTS requests to HAAS upon certain events within Reactor (e.g. "Front Door Opened")
I have a Tripp-Lite UPS (https://www.tripplite.com/smartpro-lcd-120v-1500va-900w-line-interactive-ups-avr-tower-lcd-usb-10-outlets~smart1500lcdt) that connected by a USB cable to my computer, reports various power supply and failure information, as shown in the panel below.
The application I installed runs Java and opens the console to send the information.
Has anyone tried to bring the information into the MSR? Or even a VeraPlus?
It appears that in the Manual, under Management>Network Status is for Reactor on Vera. Is the Internet check functionality available with MSR and if so is there updated instructions? I do see a variable reactor_system.internet.ok but the value is null.
I am looking for a way to check for internet status with MSR before installing an extra app on a hub to get the information.
Synology Docker latest-22149
Windows Server 2022 Build 20348
Currently running Reactor (Multi-hub) stable-22119-ae7212f
Linked to Hass 2022.0.5.4 (on a different box)
Windows server is dedicated to MSR and doesn't do anything else.
I'd like to upgrade to 22136 to take advantage of the SSL feature added recently, and also to bring my current version of Hass into the 'supported' column with MSR.
Following the instructions here: link text, section "Upgrade Windows Bare Metal"Stop Reactor Service Extract the zip, overwriting the reactor folder in c:\reactor\reactor There is no package-lock.json file so I skip that. Run "npm install --no-save --omit dev"
Next step is to start the service. I start the service and it immediately stops. "Windows could not start the Reactor service on Local Computer. Error 1067: The process terminated unexpectedly".
Tried rebooting, service won't stay running.
I suspect I'm missing something, it's probably obvious but I've not been able to figure it out.
I rolled back the reactor folder version (Windows Shadow copies) and then the service starts fine.
Anyone else running Windows and know what I'm missing?Tail of log file from running OK version, before upgrade attempt [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.081Z <Rule:INFO> Lounge Billy Ambient Lighting - Turn On (Rule#rule-l0ki453b) evaluation complete [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.082Z <httpapi:NOTICE> HTTP API v1 22021 base URL http://172.16.128.6:8111; listening [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.228Z <app:NOTICE> HTTP server running; registering proxy endpoints. [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.228Z <app:NOTICE> Starting WSAPI... [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.229Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: starting version 21334 [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.656Z <Engine:INFO> [Engine]Engine#1 master timer tick, local time "6/2/2022, 8:20:19 AM" (TZ offset 600 mins from UTC) [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:27:54.788Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:172.16.128.5 Tail of log file from failed to start after upgrade (is identical, ii.e. nothing has been appended to it) [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.081Z <Rule:INFO> Lounge Billy Ambient Lighting - Turn On (Rule#rule-l0ki453b) evaluation complete [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.082Z <httpapi:NOTICE> HTTP API v1 22021 base URL http://172.16.128.6:8111; listening [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.228Z <app:NOTICE> HTTP server running; registering proxy endpoints. [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.228Z <app:NOTICE> Starting WSAPI... [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.229Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: starting version 21334 [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:20:19.656Z <Engine:INFO> [Engine]Engine#1 master timer tick, local time "6/2/2022, 8:20:19 AM" (TZ offset 600 mins from UTC) [stable-22119]2022-06-01T22:27:54.788Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:172.16.128.5 reactor.wrapper.log (log file the failed to start event points to) 2022-06-02 08:19:23 - Stopping reactor.exe 2022-06-02 08:19:23 - ProcessKill 3628 2022-06-02 08:19:25 - Shutdown exception Message:A system shutdown is in progress. Stacktrace: at System.Runtime.InteropServices.Marshal.ThrowExceptionForHRInternal(Int32 errorCode, IntPtr errorInfo) at System.Management.ManagementScope.InitializeGuts(Object o) at System.Management.ManagementScope.Initialize() at System.Management.ManagementObjectSearcher.Initialize() at System.Management.ManagementObjectSearcher.Get() at winsw.WrapperService.GetChildPids(Int32 pid) at winsw.WrapperService.StopProcessAndChildren(Int32 pid) at winsw.WrapperService.StopIt() at winsw.WrapperService.OnShutdown() 2022-06-02 08:20:11 - Starting C:\Program Files\nodejs\node.exe C:\reactor\reactor\node_modules\node-windows\lib\wrapper.js --file C:\reactor\reactor\app.js --scriptoptions= --log "Reactor wrapper" --grow 0.25 --wait 1 --maxrestarts 3 --abortonerror n --stopparentfirst undefined 2022-06-02 08:20:11 - Started 3272 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Stopping reactor.exe 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - ProcessKill 3272 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Found child process: 3280 Name: conhost.exe 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Found child process: 3504 Name: node.exe 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Stopping process 3280 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Send SIGINT 3280 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - SIGINT to 3280 failed - Killing as fallback 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Stopping process 3504 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Send SIGINT 3504 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - SIGINT to 3504 failed - Killing as fallback 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Stopping process 3272 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Send SIGINT 3272 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - SIGINT to 3272 failed - Killing as fallback 2022-06-02 08:30:54 - Finished reactor.exe 2022-06-02 08:33:41 - Starting C:\Program Files\nodejs\node.exe C:\reactor\reactor\node_modules\node-windows\lib\wrapper.js --file C:\reactor\reactor\app.js --scriptoptions= --log "Reactor wrapper" --grow 0.25 --wait 1 --maxrestarts 3 --abortonerror n --stopparentfirst undefined 2022-06-02 08:33:41 - Started 4184 2022-06-02 08:36:57 - Starting C:\Program Files\nodejs\node.exe C:\reactor\reactor\node_modules\node-windows\lib\wrapper.js --file C:\reactor\reactor\app.js --scriptoptions= --log "Reactor wrapper" --grow 0.25 --wait 1 --maxrestarts 3 --abortonerror n --stopparentfirst undefined 2022-06-02 08:36:57 - Started 3100 Windows event log event: Child process [4184 - C:\Program Files\nodejs\node.exe C:\reactor\reactor\node_modules\node-windows\lib\wrapper.js --file C:\reactor\reactor\app.js --scriptoptions= --log "Reactor wrapper" --grow 0.25 --wait 1 --maxrestarts 3 --abortonerror n --stopparentfirst undefined] finished with 1
On the status page rule history is there any adjustably on length of the history shown? I had an occasion where it would have been helpful to go a few notches farther back than it does as currently configured.
I don't know if this is a log parser or if it is a separate smaller data set. If it is a log parser, any chance for maybe something like a "more" button?
I can't find any posts or reference in docs for this log message<EzloController:NOTICE> EzloController#ezlo received notice of new device, but auto-rediscover is OFF; ignoring
I've restarted MSR and hard refreshed browser but the new entity is not added. Can I set auto-rediscover to ON or how do I get the new device added into Reactor?
Bare metal latest-22142
The device is a Xiaomi Mini Switch, it's publishing correct values in ezmqtt.
Edit 2: The Xiaomi Aqara Mini Switch is now mapped in build 22149.
For the life of me I cannot figure this out.
when I run the du -hs command (from the host) for the mapped volume I get 25M
(/home/seth/ReactorConfig maps to /var/reactor)
Inside the container I ran du -hs for each of the folders that the ui is complaining about
/opt/reactor = 71.2M
/var/reactor/storage = 2.9M
/var/reactor/logs = 17.6M
If I run df on the docker container I get this. Disk space is not critical
Version 1.0 Pre-release Discussion
We're 60 days out from the 1.0 release date I gave earlier in this category. For about the next 30 days, I'll entertain new feature requests for anything you all feel is absolutely needed and not yet present for a 1.0 release, and you're going to have to make a strong case. Short of that, it will have to live on the wish list for a possible future release.
Identify and discuss in this topic, please... go!
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The only thing that comes to mind is fleshing out the Docs (gonna be a fun chore!) and introducing more little (i) icons throughout the UI so that users can quickly jump to the related section of Docs for that panel/pane/action.
Right now, 21140 is like butter and I have no pressing outstanding Feature Requests to suggest.
Thanks for all the hard work you've put into making MSR as awesome as it is, even in beta!
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Virtual Devices as discussed here:
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possibly add future wind readings to weather entity like rain(1h and 24hr)
+1 on the docs. As a non-programmer, I struggled with what could probably best be described as the lack of prerequisite programming knowledge. I certainly would never expect a programming course in the docs, but examples in the "how-to" section will really help point people like me in the right direction. The installation (docker), logic, and concept sections were excellent for me, but I already had the basic gist of things from Vera Reactor.
+1 on the virtual devices.
Dashboard: I don't know if you view this as a separate but related project, but since MSR concentrates entities in one system, it would be a wonderful addition.
The only other thing I had thought of was a global "pause" button. I had to make lots of controller/device changes at one point, and I found myself looking for a way to put everything on hold while I reconfigured.
I just wanted to say thank you again for everything you have created. MSR has brought a level of maturity to my automation that was not previously possible for me to accomplish at my skill level.
Potential change: now that constraints apply to groups in a Rule's reactions, I see no value in keeping the Constraints as a separate subsection at the top level of a rule (that is, the section between Triggers and the Set Reaction when you edit a Rule). So, I'm thinking about removing them from here (any rules you have with constraints in this area would just get them restructured into a group constraint).
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On the constraints, once groups were introduced, I stopped using the constraint subsection unless it was a straightforward rule that did not require groups. I think opinions on this would vary based on the way people have settled in on rule construction and layout. Groups allowed me to consolidate my rule sets, so I have less use for them.
I thought of one other thing that would be helpful to me personally...
Would you or anyone else see any value in an "entity in use by" inspector/report generator? As things got more complex, I found myself doing a little digging when I needed to address a logic issue with an entity used in multiple sections of logic.
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+1 on "Entity in use by" (or "watched by" or "referenced in") and see that as a possible extension of the objects we already see under ENTITIES. If, for instance, "Sofa Lamp" was referenced twice in the "Dim Lights" rule, it could list both occurrences as:
.references: Dim_Lights._Set_Reaction, Dim_Lights.Expr_DimLevel, where both are clickable links directly to those subsections of the referencing rule.
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+1 Libra. A clickable link to take you to the location of use would be really nice.
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+1 Libra. A clickable link to take you to the location of use would be really nice.
Although we have to acknowledge that expressions are able to reference entities without overtly looking like that's what they do - such as using loops and arrays - so it might be a technical challenge for MSR to pick up every single reference.
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now that constraints apply to groups in a Rule's reactions, I see no value in keeping the Constraints as a separate subsection at the top level of a rule (that is, the section between Triggers and the Set Reaction when you edit a Rule). So, I'm thinking about removing them from here
Are these not two separate things with different uses.
I use the Contraints section of a rule as the main set of constraints / conditions for that rules Reaction / actions being run or not.
And then in some of my rules in its Set Reaction I also have further additional and different "Group Constraints" that are only evaluated and carried out if the Set Reaction actions were even run in the first place by the main constraints being met.
Personally I do not like at all this idea to remove the rules Contraints.
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I have to strongly object to removing the rules Contraints section, which would be a major change to the concept of a rule and its work flow.
A logic engine has triggers then conditions then actions.
This is the same concept PLEG had and I used it for a decade.
We then asked you to give us the ability to have further additional conditions within the actions chain and you gave us that with Group Constraints.
The system is perfect as is.
What you are suggesting is to have triggers then actions with conditions mixed in with the actions.
Keep the main conditions in the separate Constraints section as they are now.
It's your project and creation and you can do with it what you like, but I won't be happy with this proposed major change if it happens.
@toggledbits , As you stated in another thread "Capabilities on Hubitat are free-form, and there's no indication which capability might be the most useful or primary". Could you add the ability for a user to manually select the primary capability for each Hubitat device? This would allow the Entities screen to display info in the primary value. If the Dashboard feature is added in the future then the Hubitat device should display correctly there also.( I also would like to request the dashboard)
This might be off topic and it also reveals my lack of programming skills. But I wounder how is MSR going to be installed, once it leaves beta? I use it on a stationary Windows 10, and the problem is if the power goes out. Then my PC reboots and I have to start the app and change catalog and finally execute "node app.js". I could install it on a RPi, don't know if it can work alongside and on the same RPi as I got Home assistant installed? Then it would start straight away, when the power gets back. To summarize, it's basicly two questions;
- In which ways are we going to be able to install and start up MSR?
- Is it possible to install MSR on a RPi that already is running HA? Or on a Home assistant blue (Odroid N2+)?
Another feature that would be nice is to have a optional setting of automatic updates.
Regardsless - MSR is a great (one of the best) contribution to the smart home community - at least for me. Great job!!
@fanan The same thing happens with my RPI4 ... I have to start it manually...
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There was a thread about having MSR auto start on a Pi. I set it up on my Pi and it did work MSR was started automatically after a reboot / power on.
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@fanan installing on a poi side by side with anything else will not hurt. On windows, just schedule it to run at startup via task scheduler.
@fanan At least initially, like many other projects, I expect MSR to be delivered in the following forms:
- Primary: Docker container. This facilitates not only a simpler integrated package to install that contains its dependencies, but also easily takes care of starting at boot on most systems. There are currently Docker containers available for Linux amd64 and armv7l (i.e. RPi4) architectures.
- Generic tarball. This will be a manual install for platform power users (Linux, Windows, and anywhere else nodejs and the companion dependencies can be installed by the user). There are available examples for automatic startup for systemd.
There's no reason you cannot install MSR next to Hass or anything else on a platform that allows you to install such things (clearly you're not going to install it on your Hubitat). I don't know anything about Hass Blue, but if it lets you install docker containers or the generic package, I see no reason you can't run them side-by-side.
There was a thread about having MSR auto start on a Pi.
Slightly modernized version of the same here, should work on any platform that supports systemd: https://smarthome.community/post/8011
Another feature that would be nice is to have a optional setting of automatic updates.
I'll address this issue separately.
I think there are two interpretations here, so I'll start with the interpretation that I would more specifically call "unattended upgrades". Philosophically I'm opposed to unattended upgrades in all things, particularly on things that become "mission critical" in my environment. There is no "good time" for such updates except when I'm there to initiate them and recover if they come a gutser. History has shown that they otherwise will happen when I am far from home, usually for a sustained period and while Internet access is unavailable or inconvenient. When fully unattended upgrades to MSR happen, that will be your sign that I am no longer associated with this project.
The other interpretation is "push-to-start" upgrades from the UI. This is, frankly, a very low priority for me, and will not be something I entertain for 1.0, or likely 1.x. Docker containers are easily upgraded with a four-line script on command line-driven platforms, and still pretty painless in, for example, the Synology GUI (and still doable on the command line there as well). For users of the generic tarball, the detar and restart is even simpler. I understand that one click from the GUI would be easier, I don't disagree there, but keep in mind you've all been working in a mode where, for much of the history of its availability, MSR updates have come almost daily. That is not the norm, and I would not want it to be in production. In fact, production will go more to the model I use for R4V, where there is basically a very slow-moving release channel, a faster "stable" channel, and a bleeding-edge "latest" (what you have today).
The feature also introduces something that Reactor currently doesn't (on its own) require: access to a cloud infrastructure. Upgrades from within MSR require it to access cloud services, some existing, some not. This implies a lot of things, not the least of which include its security, its construction, and its cost to maintain and serve. If it gets done at some point, it will not come lightly, or easily, and it will likely be accompanied by license fees.