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    (Last Updated: November 16, 2021)
    • Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements

      toggledbits

      Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.

      Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
      Multi-System Reactor
    • MSR No longer Setting Reactions

      T

      Hello Everyone -

      I have a peculiar situation that I'm hoping to get some help with.

      Running Vera which is still handling my Zwave, MySensors, Zigbee, and still a balance of my Reactors.

      However, I've also been running MSR for several months in preparation for an eventual move off of Vera.

      Vera had one of its meltdowns this morning related to my Opensprinkler plug in.

      After getting that straightened out, I added the OpenSprinkler plugin to HAAS and that's when I started having issues.

      My existing MSR reactors (even simple ones) don't seem to fire their reactions. I can see the conditions go "true". If I manually fire the Reaction, it works fine.

      I do see this a lot in the logs:

      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-16T19:02:44.518Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-460 evaluation in progress; waiting for completion

      (Various rules - 460 is just an example)

      Is there anything I can do to further troubleshoot?

      Multi-System Reactor
    • MSR Telegram Messages Stopped Working

      T

      My MSR has been working flawlessly until a couple of days ago when it stopped sending Telegram Messages (or should I say they stopped getting through!). I have updated to MSR version 22004. The reactor.log is updating and is showing no errors:

      [latest-22004]2022-05-15T17:52:31.417Z Engine:NOTICE Starting reaction Message Test (re-l37h2fkj)
      [latest-22004]2022-05-15T17:52:31.417Z Engine:INFO Message Test all actions completed.
      [latest-22004]2022-05-15T17:52:31.704Z Engine:INFO Enqueueing "Message Test" (re-l37h2fkj)
      [latest-22004]2022-05-15T17:52:31.735Z Engine:NOTICE Starting reaction Message Test (re-l37h2fkj)
      [latest-22004]2022-05-15T17:52:31.736Z Engine:INFO Message Test all actions completed.
      [latest-22004]2022-05-15T17:52:32.007Z Engine:INFO Enqueueing "Message Test" (re-l37h2fkj)
      [latest-22004]2022-05-15T17:52:32.035Z Engine:NOTICE Starting reaction Message Test (re-l37h2fkj)
      [latest-22004]2022-05-15T17:52:32.036Z Engine:INFO Message Test all actions completed.
      [latest-22004]2022-05-15T17:52:41.324Z Engine:INFO Enqueueing "Variable Telegram Test" (re-kvnm57c3)

      If I use the following in my web browser the telegram message gets through:

      https://api.telegram.org/botxxxxx......./sendMessage?chat_id=xxxxx......&text=Test Message HTTPS

      I am running MSR on my QNAP network attached storage. Any assistance would be appreciated.

      Just another question...... I would like to post in the HOME HARDWARE VERA section of Smarthome, but I do not have the option to set up a new post. Do I need to request access for this?

      Multi-System Reactor
    • SSL Certificate for Multi System Reactor via LetsEncrypt

      W

      Details of runtime environment:

      Reactor (Multi-hub) stable-22055-9b40e12 Running as a service on Windows Server 2022 Std 21H2 Connecting to HASS (HASSOS) Is a migration WIP from OpenLuup/Reactor

      A complete description of your objective:

      Using LetsEncrypt, application "certifyTheWeb", retrieve and apply SSL certificate to Multi System Reactor

      A description of your approach/solution/implementation so far:

      Reviewed Config files, can't seen mention of certificate files in there

      Actual Question:

      How do I apply a certificate to whatever web server Reactor uses? I'm familiar with managing certificates on IIS and Apache but Reactor doesn't use either of these and I have not been able to locat ethe config file that Reactor uses for this. Which config file needs editing to apply a certificate? Does it use the computer certificate store or it's own store (e.g. pem files)

      The reason I want to achieve this, other than the general goodness of having everything I can in TLS is that I have Reactor as an IFRAME in my HASS console and as HASS is HTTPS and Reactor is HTTP then the iframe refuses to open.

      Search for "certificate" or "ssl" did not reveal anything relevant in this forum.

      Multi-System Reactor
    • MSR ZEN32 weird behavior

      R

      @toggledbits
      Hi Patrick,
      Running HASS 2022.5.3
      MSR zwavejs-22126-834c3e9

      Seeing weird behavior in MSR with regards to my Zen32's. Not sure how to capture info that might be relevent but will describe what I am seeing.
      In the example below I pressed scene 001 4 times. It flashed and changed the primary value to "4". The remaining buttons were previously showing the PV as "double" I pushed each button one time and they flashed and displayed the PV as 4.
      zen32.JPG

      In the zwavejs2mqtt debug screen that sequence looks like this.

      2022-05-10 09:38:44.078 INFO ZWAVE: Node 45: value notification: 91-0-scene-001 5 2022-05-10T16:38:44.081Z CNTRLR « [Node 045] received CentralScene notification { "nodeId": 45, "ccId": "Central Scene", "ccCommand": "0x03", "payload": "0x898501" } 2022-05-10 09:38:45.982 INFO ZWAVE: Node 45: value notification: 91-0-scene-002 0 2022-05-10T16:38:45.984Z CNTRLR « [Node 045] received CentralScene notification { "nodeId": 45, "ccId": "Central Scene", "ccCommand": "0x03", "payload": "0x8a8002" } 2022-05-10 09:38:47.807 INFO ZWAVE: Node 45: value notification: 91-0-scene-003 0 2022-05-10T16:38:47.810Z CNTRLR « [Node 045] received CentralScene notification { "nodeId": 45, "ccId": "Central Scene", "ccCommand": "0x03", "payload": "0x8b8003" } 2022-05-10 09:38:48.858 INFO ZWAVE: Node 45: value notification: 91-0-scene-004 0 2022-05-10T16:38:48.861Z CNTRLR « [Node 045] received CentralScene notification { "nodeId": 45, "ccId": "Central Scene", "ccCommand": "0x03", "payload": "0x8c8004" }

      Let me know what other info you would like me to supply.
      I have played around with a bunch of other key stroke combo's and it looks like buttons 2-5 display what ever button 1 is set to.
      Have tested this on 4 different ZEN32's and it is same on all.

      Multi-System Reactor
    • HASS 2022.5 issue with ZwaveJS in MSR

      R

      Running zwavejs-22118-baab576 in MSR, HASSOS 2022.5.1

      Due to an unreported issue in HASS, when I upgraded the 2022.5 yesterday, it dropped ZwaveJS2MQTT from my HASSOS build. Finally got it reinstalled and it appears to be working the way it was previously.
      MSR is now showing zwavejs down and in entities, nothing is updating.

      Seeing this in the logs:
      ZWaveJSController#zwavejs ws_open caught [Error]Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.0.16:3000

      Are there additional steps needed that are not mentioned in the manual?
      At a loss to figure out what is causing issue.

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Global Expression – Reference Error

      wmarcolin

      Hi!

      After several tests, restarting the computer where the MSR is, and the MSR itself by Tools > Restart, I have a persistent error in the logs.

      32d45bc3-51f8-4718-a113-3381e9d7edf2-image.png

      Looking at the global expression (screen below), I see that it is highlighted as an error, however, if I look at two other expressions above that have the same structure, they do not present an error, so I do not think the problem is with the expression's code.

      ca8a7867-4ac7-4f9a-9913-15a80da18f05-image.png

      This expression uses a group, which validates 4 devices of type door sensor, whether the status is true or false, door open or closed.

      "dgc_entrance_open": name: DGC Entrance Open select: - include_entity: - "hubitat>37" - "hubitat>38" - "hubitat>99" - "hubitat>130" filter_expression: > entity.attributes?.door_sensor?.state == true

      I also compared it with other groups, the structure is identical.

      Looking at the 4 devices in this group, I see that all are active in the MSR, have similar variables, are used in other groups and rules that do not present a problem.

      52b099f4-b9c4-46cb-ad3d-c873b09b7e13-image.png

      Looking at the log, I understand that it refers to some object that would be null, at which point I am lost on what to actually look at.

      [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:11.711Z <Engine:INFO> Reaction Engine starting [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:11.719Z <Engine:INFO> Checking rule sets... [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:11.746Z <Engine:INFO> Checking rules... [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:11.748Z <Engine:INFO> Data check complete; no corrections. [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:11.892Z <Engine:ERR> [Engine]Engine#1: error evaluating expression EntranceOPEN: [ReferenceError]ReferenceError: Invalid scope in reference to member attributes of (object)null [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:11.893Z <Engine:ERR> [Engine]Engine#1: expression: sort(each id in ( getEntity('groups>dgc_entrance_open').attributes.sys_group.members ): getEntity(id).name) [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:11.894Z <Engine:CRIT> ReferenceError: Invalid scope in reference to member attributes of (object)null ReferenceError: Invalid scope in reference to member attributes of (object)null at _run (C:\MSR\reactor\common\lexp.js:1449:31) at _run (C:\MSR\reactor\common\lexp.js:1443:33) at _run (C:\MSR\reactor\common\lexp.js:1443:33) at _run (C:\MSR\reactor\common\lexp.js:1536:38) at _run (C:\MSR\reactor\common\lexp.js:1480:33) at C:\MSR\reactor\common\lexp.js:1283:29 at Array.forEach (<anonymous>) at _run (C:\MSR\reactor\common\lexp.js:1282:28) at run (C:\MSR\reactor\common\lexp.js:1663:22) at Object.evaluate (C:\MSR\reactor\common\lexp.js:1699:20) [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:12.232Z <Engine:NOTICE> Reaction Engine running! [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:12.233Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-kxjp2el2 (Mode DAY) started [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:12.234Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-kxjp7kc8 (Mode EVENING) started [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:12.234Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-kxjparz7 (Mode NIGHT) started [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:12.234Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-kxjpd0d6 (Mode AWAY ∆) started [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:12.235Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-kxjqrcr9 (Mode PARTY) started [latest-22118]2022-05-02T22:33:12.235Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-kxjqyhnu (Mode VACATION ∆) started

      Finally, if I return the expression and press the Try This Expression button, it is executed and the error disappears.

      102e5013-b9aa-4c26-98f5-1ae545f8897f-image.png

      This situation started to occur on the latest version of Reactor 22118, on a Windows 10 Bare Metal installation. Does anyone have a similar scenario?

      Sorry for the long post, I tried to document as best as possible to try to identify the problem.

      Thanks.

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Cheapest platform on which to run MSR

      T

      Please can anyone give me advice on a cheap way to run MSR (both initial cost and ongoing electricity cost). I currently run it on my QNAP network drive (which works very well incidentally). However, this draws a constant 35Watts (£90/yr @ 30p/kWh) and given the recent rise in fuel costs I am evaluating the best way forwards. Note, I only really need to turn my QNAP on for an hour a week to back-up my computer data. I understand that MSR can run on a Raspberry PI, but I am not competent with Linux! Thanks.

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Build 22118 - entity updates

      G

      I just noticed that the new hotness picked up the entities from when I added an integration temporarily to my Home Assistant and popped a lovely info notice into the Alerts pane.

      I know the info is new - but when did MSR suddenly become more real-time with devices being added to hubs? This is great!

      Multi-System Reactor
    • [Solved] Is there a cap or max number of devices a Global Reaction should not exceed?

      G

      Noticed in the last few nights that my Global Reaction to turn on a mere six lights in the evenings the same two devices no longer turn on. One is a dimming smart bulb, the other is a wall outlet.

      This has been running flawlessly for months - just in the last few nights I've noticed these two devices being left behind and yes, it's always these two devices only.

      "What changed?"

      No Hubitat firmware updates No new devices added to Hubitat list itemTwo MSR updates (the last two, I keep up with the latest) list itemHome Assistant releases (should have zero bearing, HA is nothing more than pretty dashboards) list itemAdded MQTT to MSR

      I did do a z-wave "repair" last night and am waiting to see if this helps.

      Is there any maximum or cap on number of devices that should be included in a Global Reaction?

      *Marked as solved as the question asked was answered. The issue persists but the question was answered.

      Multi-System Reactor
    • [Solved] Which version of npm should we be running for reactor-latest-22118-0f0772c.tar.gz

      G

      I've borked my install of reactor-latest-22118-0f0772c.tar.gz for some reason and am retracing steps. Running npm i --no-save --omit dev prompted to update npm and I did (current version now 8.6.0). Currently, attempts to load via browser/s (Brave and Safari) result in "This site can’t be reached192.168.1.xxx refused to connect." I am still able to SSH into the RPi.

      I haven't panicked yet but did just pull my config and storage directories - I believe I read where that's enough for a back-up if a clean install ends up being needed.

      So the question of the day: which version of nmp should we be running on for the latest Reactor?

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Is a global timestamp expression possible ?

      B

      I’ve looked and can’t find the answer which concerns me that the answer is obvious and thats why I can't find the answer to this.

      I’m new to MSR and this is my first post, so please bare with me 🙂

      What I’m trying to do is have a global expression that contains the current time so I can use it in Global reactions as well as Rulesets as part of my syslog messages.

      Example of what I’m experiencing:
      In Expressions, create a global expression: gMyTOD = strftime("%T %D”)
      In Rulesets, in a rule, create a local expression: MyTOD = strftime("%T %D”)

      In that same rule create a Notify type of Syslog.
      Set syslog message to: gMyTOD time is ${{gMyTOD}} and MyTOD time is ${{MyTOD}}
      Trigger the rule.

      The result is that the local expression (MyTOD) contains the correct time but the global expression (gMyTOD) does not update and reflects the wrong time in the final syslog message.

      Is there a different approach I should be using?

      Thank you in advance for any insight.

      -bh

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Restart router when it's gone offline?

      F

      Hi!
      Once a month or so, my internet access is lost, and I have to cut the power to the router, to restart it. When I'm away this become a problem, so I thought that if I got a zigbee switch (in Home Assistant), problem is solved. But how do I (MSR) know if it's offline?

      What's the easiest and most effective way to make this work? Do I ping a few websites every ten minutes or so, or is there a better approch? If I'm going to ping, what URL is recommended?

      For information, I have a set up with Asus routers, Home Assistent with zigbee-, z-wave and wifi devices (a total of appr. 150) and every of my 60-70 automation is done by MSR.
      I run MSR ver. 22080-ae7212f (docker on my Home Assistant blue). HA ver 2022.4.6.
      Thanks in advance.
      Take care, you all!
      /Fanan

      Multi-System Reactor
    • MSR for Scene Controllers

      therealdb

      I still have some code running on my Vera that I want to port and it's related to scene controllers.

      I'm mostly using Fibaro's switch/roller shutter and on the Vera side I'm getting sl_CentralScene/sl_CentralSceneAttr, but it seems too fast to be intercepted by MSR.

      What's anyone using? Thanks.

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Best strategy to get the difference between pulses in MSR

      therealdb

      So, I have a rule set that it's triggered when a local variable changes. Since it's tied to my solar production, it could change very frequently, so I've just added a reset delay to calm it down, but it's not working as intended.

      What I really need is a way to, let's say, define a percentage and define a variable to understand if the new value has changed +/- 10% before going true.

      I've tried a couple of ways, but I'm posting here anyway, in case anyone has found a better way to tackle this. Thanks!

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Status of MSR in Home Assistant

      Matohl

      Perhaps a dumb question. Can I check from Home Assistant that MSR is up and running? I would like to see that in a status page in HA. I can of course ping the other Pi but it doesn't say anything about the MSR status.

      Skärmavbild 2022-04-23 kl. 18.23.03.png

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Notifications from Alerts

      Crille

      @toggledbits Is there a way to get Current Alerts as an entity so I could monitor those and send notifications if needed.
      My usecase is sometimes openLuup crashes and MSR picks that up pretty quick, sending a pushover notification to me would get my attention to restart it.
      Of course there are many ways to monitor connectivity but since MSR already is doing that it would be neat to take advantage of it.

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Invocable rules via MQTT

      therealdb

      Hey @toggledbits.
      From the docs:

      You cannot control the state of rules via MQTT. Rule state is driven exclusively by the result of its conditions.

      And I'm OK when rules are triggered by something else, but I've built a couple of rules to be used by other rules, to streamline the logic, and it'll be useful to invoke a rule via MQTT. It's probably close to what rule/:id/restart is doing in the HTTP api.

      Thanks!

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Home Assistant Script, Reaction requires seclection that isnt there

      S

      I'm trying to create some automation so I can control my pool variable speed pump from reactor rather than iAqualink (which sucks). My controller is MQTT enabled so I created several scripts for my desired speeds. (I know reactor has MQTT ability but honestly I read the docs and could not make much sense of it and since I already have it set up in Home Assistant, I figured I would just leverage that instead)

      So I created all of my scripts and tested them, they worked perfectly. The I created a rule in reactor and set running the script as the action. The problem is that reactor is telling me that I have to make a selection. I try to click the dropdown and there is nothing to select. I cant save the rule, the only option is to exit.

      9e0a3147-5058-4893-9860-2f0d759dfe3c-image.png

      Here is my script in Home Assistant. Any advice on how to get this to work? If I am looking at this the wrong way I am open to suggestions (I would rather be able to call a specific action and specify a speed value but I cannot figure out how to do that). Thanks in advance.

      bfc7ba89-70a5-47d3-a111-0c2927ac3c73-image.png

      Multi-System Reactor
    • Installed latest MSR container and host time is wrong

      M

      Hi, I've been using msr for a while now and haven't had timezone issues until today when I updated to latest docker image (latest-22080-ae7212f)

      both docker date command and my local date command show the same time, same timezone, but for some reason MSR shows the host time as 2 hours in the past as a result all my timed rules run 2 hours late.

      my locale is set correctly in the host machine and is bound into the container as well.

      One possible hint I get is maybe this from the container startup log, but other than timezone stuff everything else seems to be working fine and all my settings loaded up just fine.

      [latest-22080]2022-04-07T07:52:52.423Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v22080 root {} CommonJS loading [latest-22080]2022-04-07T07:52:57.236Z <Engine:CRIT> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:121:46) at Container.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:102:53) at new GlobalExpression (/opt/reactor/server/lib/GlobalExpression.js:105:179) at Function.getInstance (/opt/reactor/server/lib/GlobalExpression.js:123:89) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Engine.js:1349:67 at Array.forEach (<anonymous>) at Engine.initializeGlobalExpressions (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Engine.js:1345:145) at Engine.start (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Engine.js:590:285) at /opt/reactor/app.js:362:103

      Let me know if I can provide further info to help debug this.

      Thanks

      Multi-System Reactor
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    SOLVED Is it possible for MSR to act on Nest hello (doorbell pressed)?

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      Fanan last edited by

      Hi!
      I have a Nest hello, and as a integration in Home Assistent. I would want to be able to create a automation/reaction when someone press the doorbell button. The problem is that this event/service will only appear as triggers (in HA):
      3a763870-d062-4de7-be32-619120e3f90a-image.png I can't access the doorbell as an entity. I can only access it if I open the 'doorbell' device in HA.
      My question is therefor; is it possible to access the doorbell and it's triggers within MSR?
      I have MSR build 21307-1746e27 and HA core-2021.11.2.
      Have a great day!
      /Fanan

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        Matohl @Fanan last edited by

        @fanan OT: I can not answer your question but I see that you are using HA 11.2. Do you use the Vera integration in HA as well? If so, how does it work since I have seen some breaking changes in 2021.11 with respect to entities?

        Vera Plus, Hue Bridge, RFXtrx and Home Assistant (RPi) 2022.4.6, MSR (RPi) 22001

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          gwp1 @Fanan last edited by

          @fanan Does MSR show the Nest under Entities? If so, clicking the > (chevron) will show you what's exposed to MSR.

          Hubitat C-7 2.3.0.124, Home Assistant 2022.2.9, MSR on RPi4 bare metal Model B 2GBs latest-22123-7faf18d

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          • toggledbits
            toggledbits last edited by

            If HomeAssistant is showing a device Doorbell, it should have a matching entity (you may need to enable it in the HA integration; it could be disabled/hidden). MSR will make an entity for it if HA publishes it, and it will be visible as @gwp1 describes.

            It could also be that it's in a domain that MSR doesn't know how to handle.

            Post the hass_states.json file from your logs directory here (DM to me), and I can see if it's published, and if so, what its domain is and mapping should be.

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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              Fanan @toggledbits last edited by

              @toggledbits I sent you an email with my log file.
              @gwp1 No, MSR does not show the Nest doorbell under Entities. It do show the Camera though.
              @Matohl So far so good, using the Vera integration!

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              • toggledbits
                toggledbits last edited by

                OK, as I suspected, there's no data there for anything other than the camera feed. You need to go into the integration, go to the device, and enable the sensor entities (probably marked hidden) for that device. You should then see binary sensors related to the camera in Lovelace. Once you have that, restart MSR and it should pick up those sensors as entities.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  Fanan @toggledbits last edited by

                  @toggledbits the problem is that's it's not a entities, only a trigger. So it's not hidden. I have other cameras with hidden entities, so it's not that i don't know where our how to find it. I can only access it as a trigger when i do a automation within HA, as in the pic in my first post.

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                  • toggledbits
                    toggledbits last edited by

                    The camera itself is a device. That's where you go. I assume you configured this integration through the UI, as it seems like a "first class" integration, not one of the components you configure directly in configuration.yaml or other. I don't have these devices, so I can't help you beyond that. But the typical way is to go to the parent device, and enable its children, in effect. At least, it works this way with every other integration I have, including other non-Nest cameras.

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      kfxo last edited by

                      It appears from the Nest- Home Assistant docs that the doorbell generates a nest_event (doorbell_chime). Unfortunately I do not believe there is any way for MSR to see these events. I have brought this up previously with respect to Emulated Roku. My work around is to use a native HA automation to detect the event and trigger a helper object that MSR can see, in my case I place the text of the event in a input_text helper which MSR can see.

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                        Fanan @kfxo last edited by

                        @kfxo Thanks - I believe this is the way to go. I'll give it a try in a few days.
                        /Fanan

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                        • toggledbits
                          toggledbits last edited by

                          @Fanan After a bit more research, it may be there's something I can do on the Reactor side. I can't trial or test anything, of course, because I don't have those devices or use that integration, so I'm hoping you'll be my hands and eyes, and it may take a couple of passes to get something working that way...

                          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                          • toggledbits
                            toggledbits last edited by

                            OK. There's a build 21314 now posted. It allows you to set log_events: true in the config section of your HassController (in reactor.yaml). This will produce a log of events to logs/hass_events.log. Add that config, restart MSR, trigger some events with your camera, and then set log_events: false and restart MSR. Then DM or email me the hass_events.log file.

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                              Fanan @toggledbits last edited by Fanan

                              @toggledbits Thanks! You just got an email!

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                                toggledbits last edited by

                                OK. I see the events. I think this can be handled. If I get time to look at this over the weekend, I certainly will, but expect Monday at the latest.

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                                  Fanan @toggledbits last edited by

                                  @toggledbits No rush. Take care of your son and enjoy the weekend!

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                                    toggledbits last edited by toggledbits

                                    OK. I think this is doable on the version you have, which already has some enhancements I carried in from the MQTTController side.

                                    First, turn off log_events in the config for now; I don't think we'll be needing it. Restart MSR and remove the hass_events.log file from the logs directory.

                                    Add the following in the config section of your HassController configuration (in reactor.yaml). The event_targets line should be indented to the same level as source and log_events; I've put a config line in to show that, but don't copy it, it's just for reference. I'll explain what all this does after:

                                        config:
                                          # ... your other config stuff is above this comment; append these lines:
                                          event_targets:
                                            "nest_hello_motion":
                                              name: "Nest Hello Motion"
                                              capabilities: 
                                                - motion_sensor
                                              events:
                                              - event:
                                                  event_type: nest_event
                                                  data:
                                                    device_id: "148552cdf7eb1caeb5dad5f6a3874821"
                                                    type: "camera_motion"
                                                response:
                                                  "motion_sensor.state": true
                                                  "motion_sensor.since":
                                                    expr: "time()"
                                            "nest_hello_person":
                                              capabilities: 
                                                - binary_sensor
                                              name: "Nest Hello Person"
                                              events:
                                              - event:
                                                  event_type: nest_event
                                                  data:
                                                    device_id: "148552cdf7eb1caeb5dad5f6a3874821"
                                                    type: "camera_person"
                                                response:
                                                  "binary_sensor.state": true
                                                  "binary_sensor.since":
                                                    expr: "time()"
                                           "nest_doorbell":
                                              capabilities: 
                                                - binary_sensor
                                              name: "Nest Doorbell"
                                              events:
                                              - event:
                                                  event_type: nest_event
                                                  data:
                                                    device_id: "148552cdf7eb1caeb5dad5f6a3874821"
                                                    type: "doorbell_chime"
                                                response:
                                                  "binary_sensor.state": true
                                                  "binary_sensor.since":
                                                    expr: "time()"
                                    

                                    This config is going to create three entities in Reactor, the first with ID nest_hello_motion the second with ID nest_hello_person, and third with ID "nest_doorbell". Each of them works about the same, but they look at different Nest events.

                                    The nest_hello_motion config sets the entity up with the motion_sensor capability (only). It watches for a Home Assistant event of type nest_event that contains in its data the device ID shown and the more specific type camera_motion. When Reactor gets a matching event, it will set the motion_sensor.state attribute on the Reactor entity to true, and update the timestamp in the since attribute for that capability.

                                    The nest_hello_person config works the same, but looks for Nest's camera_person event. And of course, the nest_doorbell config is looking at the same Home Assistant event type and device ID, but matching only the specific doorbell_chime event.

                                    Now for the tricky part (in case this hasn't been tricky enough). These events from Nest have no reset. That is, the Nest integration tells you when it detects motion, but not when it stops detecting motion. That means that the state attribute values can never be anything but true in the Reactor entity (there's no way to reset it to false). Therefore, to test if the motion (or person, or doorbell) event has occurred, then, you instead will have to test if since (an extension attribute for the capability) changes, which it will every time the event is received. This is a bit of a shame, because it requires special handling for Nest different from most other devices, but then, that's nothing new. My Amcrest and other cameras do not work this way — their events send true and false detection events so you can tell when the camera no longer detects motion. Alas, not with Nest. So, if at some point in future you need to know when motion is no longer detected, because Nest doesn't tell us you'll have to use condition options to infer it (e.g. test that since has not changed for a certain period). Should work fine, it's just not as easy as when the device/driver gives you an affirmative reset event.

                                    To generalize, this structure allows you to receive and respond to any Hass event:

                                          event_targets:    # this section starts the event-receiving entities
                                            "my_virtual_entity_id":     # Assign an ID to your entity; each entity must have a unique ID
                                              name: "My Entity Name"   # This is optional but recommended, so you have a friendly name
                                              capabilities:  # define an array of capabilities to be modified by the event
                                              - capability_name    # first capability
                                              - capability_name    # second, etc., as many as you need, but always at least ONE
                                              events:  # define an array of events that modify capability attributes on the entity
                                              - event:  # start of an event; each element of the events array begins this way
                                                  event_type: "type of HomeAssistant event"
                                                  data:  # optional section, if further matching to the event data is required
                                                    data_field: "data_value"    # data field to be checked/matched to data_value
                                                    data_field: "data_value"    # as many as you need, but each data_field must be unique
                                                response:  # begin the (required) response section for handling the event
                                                  "capability.attribute":
                                                    expr: "expression"   # expression to get attribute value from event data
                                                  # repeat "capability.attribute" section for all attributes modified by the event
                                    

                                    This isn't complete for documentation, I'm writing it now. Definitely will be an advanced user feature.

                                    Also, just FYI, Hass seems to be modifying its person entities when detected by the camera as well, so that's a sneaky thing that's changing when the Nest integration is handling the event on its end. See Hass entity binary_sensor.person_vid_ytterdorren for example (and there should be a Reactor entity with a similar ID, just the dot replaced with underscore).

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                                      kfxo @toggledbits last edited by kfxo

                                      I was messing around with this and I think there is an indentation issue starting at line 8. See below for what indentation worked for me.

                                            event_targets:    # this section starts the event-receiving entities
                                              "my_virtual_entity_id":     # Assign an ID to your entity; each entity must have a unique ID
                                                name: "My Entity Name"   # This is optional but recommended, so you have a friendly name
                                                capabilities:  # define an array of capabilities to be modified by the event
                                                  - capability_name    # first capability
                                                  - capability_name    # second, etc., as many as you need, but always at least ONE
                                                events:  # define an array of events that modify capability attributes on the entity
                                                  - event:  # start of an event; each element of the events array begins this way
                                                      event_type: "type of HomeAssistant event"
                                                      data:  # optional section, if further matching to the event data is required
                                                        data_field: "data_value"    # data field to be checked/matched to data_value
                                                        data_field: "data_value"    # as many as you need, but each data_field must be unique
                                                    response:  # begin the (required) response section for handling the event
                                                      "capability.attribute":
                                                        expr: "expression"   # expression to get attribute value from event data
                                                        # repeat "capability.attribute" section for all attributes modified by the event
                                      
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                                        toggledbits last edited by

                                        Yeah, there's some ambiguity/disagreement with respect to indenting of array elements, and yamllint and the library I'm using to parse YAML disagree. Bottom line, do what works, and what you've shown is typical for the way I indent such arrays. I'll make sure the docs reflect that.

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                                          kfxo @toggledbits last edited by

                                          This is off topic to the original post so maybe it should be moved but it is directed towards the Home Assistant event_targets discussed above.

                                          I defined an event_target in my system for emulated roku that looks like this:

                                              event_targets:
                                                "LR_Emulated_Roku_Home_Keypress":
                                                  name: "LR Emulated Roku Home Keypress"
                                                  capabilities:
                                                    - button
                                                  events:
                                                    - event:
                                                        event_type: "roku_command"
                                                        data:
                                                          source_name: "LR_Roku"
                                                          type: "keypress"
                                                          key: "Home"
                                                      response:
                                                        "button.since":
                                                          expr: "time()"
                                                        "button.state": true
                                          

                                          This works great, detects the event and stores the time and True in the respective button entity attributes. However upon restarting MSR the values of the button entity attributes clear to null (e.g. button.since=null).

                                          Is this expected behavior or should these values be maintained on restart?

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                                            toggledbits last edited by toggledbits

                                            This is expected behavior for the moment, but will be changing. MSR has never had a need to persist entities over restarts because the controllers have the current data. It's not even an issue for MQTT, because retained messages, when used properly, update state correctly on restart/reconnect.

                                            But, I have been using a version of MSR in my own home that persists entities across restarts, for other reasons, and that will also serve to smooth out the bump for event handling here. I still have a few more wrinkles to smooth out... like how to detect when the user has changed their custom configuration for an entity, modified their own custom declaration of a capability, etc. These are rarely-used features, but I nonetheless want them to require less user intervention (e.g. manual forced purge of retention data, etc).

                                            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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