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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
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Expose MSR entities
CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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Comment in Globa Expressions
Tom_DT
I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Little Bobby tables...
CatmanV2C
...is back.... https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/08/researchers-use-calendar-events-to-hack-gemini-control-smart-home-gadgets/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=null&fbclid=IwY2xjawMBq-pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlSqIalzbz1IxcJFzlw8GBE6nC3FwvxcHgR370nJhogU6JjqbmRxG-lysqgh_aem_lx9XboYFKw9tpHnedGQKUA C
General Discussion
Home Assistant Voice TTS is Easy
toggledbitsT
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Home Assistant
Play Audio through Home Assistant Voice Unit
toggledbitsT
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Home Assistant
Home Assistant Voice
CatmanV2C
Has anyone had a play with the local voice control for HA? I've got one on order because... https://www.home-assistant.io/voice-pe/ C
Home Assistant
Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.
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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Can't customize home page
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I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
T
@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
wmarcolinW
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Wiring Samotech SM308-S into light fitting
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Hi Smart Home Community. I have used a Sonos inline WiFi switch to make one of my light fittings smart, but it requires a hard reset for WiFi changes, plus it isn't zigbee compatible, which means I can't use the Hue app to control it with the rest of the lights. To that end I bought a Samotech SM308-S as it is recommended as the better than the Sonos equivalent. I am however not exactly sure how to wire it in. The manual is available here Can anyone help me by clarifying which ports I need to use, and whether I should be using the live or switched live line for live etc. I will be keeping using standard switches for a while, although hope to upgrade to tap dials once I have all the fittings upgraded. Thanks
Hardware
Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
tunnusT
I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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  • Integrate UPS with MSR
    K kfxo

    @toggledbits said in Integrate UPS with MSR:

    Fixed now, 22152 build of NUTController available for download.

    Confirmed fixed. Thanks.

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  • Integrate UPS with MSR
    K kfxo

    @toggledbits

    Getting this error in the log when restarting Reactor after performing the installation steps for NUT controller. I am on Reactor 22149 installed on Ubuntu in Docker.

    [latest-22149]2022-06-01T16:54:36.344Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 loading controller interface nut (NUTController)
    [latest-22149]2022-06-01T16:54:36.345Z <Controller:CRIT> Controller: failed to load nut implementation /var/reactor/ext/NUTController/NUTController.js: [TypeError]TypeError: Incompatible base version; is 22125, requires at least 22145
    [latest-22149]2022-06-01T16:54:36.346Z <Controller:CRIT> TypeError: Incompatible base version; is 22125, requires at least 22145
    TypeError: Incompatible base version; is 22125, requires at least 22145
        at Function.requires (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:327:19)
        at Object.<anonymous> (/var/reactor/ext/NUTController/NUTController.js:9:53)
        at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1103:14)
        at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1157:10)
        at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:981:32)
        at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:822:12)
        at ModuleWrap.<anonymous> (node:internal/modules/esm/translators:168:29)
        at ModuleJob.run (node:internal/modules/esm/module_job:197:25)
        at async Promise.all (index 0)
        at async ESMLoader.import (node:internal/modules/esm/loader:337:24)
    [latest-22149]2022-06-01T16:54:36.346Z <Structure:ERR> Structure#1 controller nut (NUT) skipped, implementation could not be loaded.
    

    edit: Fixed in build 22152. See below.

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  • Integrate UPS with MSR
    K kfxo

    @toggledbits said in Integrate UPS with MSR:

    I use NUT on Linux (and I have a Reactor controller for it that I can publish). I know nothing about it on Windows.

    I would be interested in trying out the NUT controller if you publish.

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  • Strange MSR behaviours after NAS reboots
    K kfxo

    @snowman said in Strange MSR behaviours after NAS reboots:

    Interestingly, everything seems to be working like it should even if I don't do anything. Which is weird.

    So everything ends up working but the visual errors persist? It would be unsettling seeing all those errors even though it works fine.

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  • Strange MSR behaviours after NAS reboots
    K kfxo

    My guess would be that home assistant is still loading when MSR starts and MSR is not seeing all the entities initially.

    Software

  • Urgent Help MSR stopped running
    K kfxo

    Not sure what else to try as you already commented out the Influx. Maybe back up your MSR files and try a fresh install.

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  • Urgent Help MSR stopped running
    K kfxo

    The logs dont say anything else? If not I dont know and you might have to wait for @toggledbits

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  • Urgent Help MSR stopped running
    K kfxo

    Maybe the logs will have a clue? The other day I moved HA to a new computer and MSR was trying to connect to the old machine and MSR would not load. Sure enough the logs indicated that MSR could not connect to HA. Fixed that and all was well.

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  • Re-number on OpenLuup
    K kfxo

    Is it marked as failed in z-wave (z-way?) server? If you can reset the device without excluding it, I think you can use the replace failed node operation on the z-way server control section.

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  • Is it possible for MSR to act on Nest hello (doorbell pressed)?
    K kfxo

    This is off topic to the original post so maybe it should be moved but it is directed towards the Home Assistant event_targets discussed above.

    I defined an event_target in my system for emulated roku that looks like this:

        event_targets:
          "LR_Emulated_Roku_Home_Keypress":
            name: "LR Emulated Roku Home Keypress"
            capabilities:
              - button
            events:
              - event:
                  event_type: "roku_command"
                  data:
                    source_name: "LR_Roku"
                    type: "keypress"
                    key: "Home"
                response:
                  "button.since":
                    expr: "time()"
                  "button.state": true
    

    This works great, detects the event and stores the time and True in the respective button entity attributes. However upon restarting MSR the values of the button entity attributes clear to null (e.g. button.since=null).

    Is this expected behavior or should these values be maintained on restart?

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  • Is it possible for MSR to act on Nest hello (doorbell pressed)?
    K kfxo

    I was messing around with this and I think there is an indentation issue starting at line 8. See below for what indentation worked for me.

          event_targets:    # this section starts the event-receiving entities
            "my_virtual_entity_id":     # Assign an ID to your entity; each entity must have a unique ID
              name: "My Entity Name"   # This is optional but recommended, so you have a friendly name
              capabilities:  # define an array of capabilities to be modified by the event
                - capability_name    # first capability
                - capability_name    # second, etc., as many as you need, but always at least ONE
              events:  # define an array of events that modify capability attributes on the entity
                - event:  # start of an event; each element of the events array begins this way
                    event_type: "type of HomeAssistant event"
                    data:  # optional section, if further matching to the event data is required
                      data_field: "data_value"    # data field to be checked/matched to data_value
                      data_field: "data_value"    # as many as you need, but each data_field must be unique
                  response:  # begin the (required) response section for handling the event
                    "capability.attribute":
                      expr: "expression"   # expression to get attribute value from event data
                      # repeat "capability.attribute" section for all attributes modified by the event
    
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  • Is it possible for MSR to act on Nest hello (doorbell pressed)?
    K kfxo

    It appears from the Nest- Home Assistant docs that the doorbell generates a nest_event (doorbell_chime). Unfortunately I do not believe there is any way for MSR to see these events. I have brought this up previously with respect to Emulated Roku. My work around is to use a native HA automation to detect the event and trigger a helper object that MSR can see, in my case I place the text of the event in a input_text helper which MSR can see.

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  • Change in Plans (Don't Panic)
    K kfxo

    @toggledbits said in Change in Plans (Don't Panic):

    Maybe once I get the ZWaveJS interface fleshed out

    Curious about progress on this. I was just messing around with ZwaveJS today and was thinking of utilizing it to move all my zwave devices from openluup+zway to HA+ZwaveJS. Obviously a direct ZwaveJS interface to MSR would be optimal.

    Also is there any plans of a tool that might allow us to swap an entity reference in the rules? Moving zwave devices to ZwaveJS would require going through all MSR rules one by one and remapping to reference the ZwaveJS entity instead of the openluup entity.

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  • Universal Remote Control
    K kfxo

    @catmanv2 I have been keeping an eye on this project. Looks promising. I hope they deliver.

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  • Let's talk about MSR-provided Virtual Devices... NOT!
    K kfxo

    I could definitely see it being useful for dashboards and also if an integrated controller does not provide the ability to create a virtual device.

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  • Let's talk about MSR-provided Virtual Devices... NOT!
    K kfxo

    @toggledbits So what would be the difference between MSR provided Virtual Devices and expressionless variables? Do you envision interacting with the virtual devices in MSR? Right now I use expressionless variables whenever I need to keep track of some value and I have no intention of needing to modify the value outside of logic. I use virtual devices both in openluup and HA when I intend to physically interact to change the value (or I have no other way of getting the value into MSR..cough cough HA event data generated by integrations that are not reflected in entities). I guess I am not seeing why MSR would need Virtual Devices to act as data containers when MSR already has data containers with expressionless variables.

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  • Moving to Docker
    K kfxo

    There is a post from me above in this thread (sorry don't know how to link specific post) that explains how I got it to work. Have you tried that? I think the issue is synology gui does not support the correct type of volumes and you have to ssh into synology and run the correct docker command to set it up.

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  • Moving to Docker
    K kfxo

    I think I had this same issue. If you copy the files in cmh-ludl from an existing openluup install into ' /OpenLuup/openluup-env' it should start right up.

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  • MSR on Synology without Docker
    K kfxo

    I am using virtual machine manager on synology to host a Debian 10 VM. Works well.

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  • Feature Request: Hass service call action
    K kfxo

    @toggledbits Success! When pasting into Notepad++ I had to edit the line endings to (LF) and I also had to change the ID from "hass>media_player.lr_mibox" to "hass>media_player_lr_mibox".

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