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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
Multi-System Reactor
[Reactor] Help with screne controller cycling logic
therealdbT
I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically. That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button. Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF. The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule. Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
Multi-System Reactor
[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
therealdbT
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Multi-System Reactor
Expose MSR entities
CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
Multi-System Reactor
Comment in Globa Expressions
Tom_DT
I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
Multi-System Reactor
Little Bobby tables...
CatmanV2C
...is back.... https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/08/researchers-use-calendar-events-to-hack-gemini-control-smart-home-gadgets/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=null&fbclid=IwY2xjawMBq-pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlSqIalzbz1IxcJFzlw8GBE6nC3FwvxcHgR370nJhogU6JjqbmRxG-lysqgh_aem_lx9XboYFKw9tpHnedGQKUA C
General Discussion
Home Assistant Voice TTS is Easy
toggledbitsT
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Home Assistant
Play Audio through Home Assistant Voice Unit
toggledbitsT
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Home Assistant
Home Assistant Voice
CatmanV2C
Has anyone had a play with the local voice control for HA? I've got one on order because... https://www.home-assistant.io/voice-pe/ C
Home Assistant
Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.
Multi-System Reactor
Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Multi-System Reactor
Can't customize home page
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I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
Multi-System Reactor
Error After Upgrade
T
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Multi-System Reactor
Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Multi-System Reactor
Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
T
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Multi-System Reactor
Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
T
@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
Multi-System Reactor
Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
Multi-System Reactor
Set Reaction > Script Action
wmarcolinW
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Wiring Samotech SM308-S into light fitting
F
Hi Smart Home Community. I have used a Sonos inline WiFi switch to make one of my light fittings smart, but it requires a hard reset for WiFi changes, plus it isn't zigbee compatible, which means I can't use the Hue app to control it with the rest of the lights. To that end I bought a Samotech SM308-S as it is recommended as the better than the Sonos equivalent. I am however not exactly sure how to wire it in. The manual is available here Can anyone help me by clarifying which ports I need to use, and whether I should be using the live or switched live line for live etc. I will be keeping using standard switches for a while, although hope to upgrade to tap dials once I have all the fittings upgraded. Thanks
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  • Migration Vera to HA > how to send sensor data from Vera to HA?
    M Maipensato

    @gwp1 I have no doubts that MSR is a great tool for sure when you use more than one platform.
    But sorry I repeat myself... my goal is to only use Home Assistant in the near future and I will migrate step by step from Vera.
    If I can not do all automations in HA I will most certainly seriously consider combining HA with MSR.

    In the meantime I have found the answers on my question myself.

    http luup request to get values of sensor data/variables from Vera.
    Example for a rain sensor:

    http://192.168.1.xxx:3480/data_request?id=variableget&DeviceNum=xx&serviceId=urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RainSensor1&Variable=CurrentRain

    Within Home Assistant I created RESTful sensors to get the data in.

    And it works great.

    Home Assistant

  • Migration Vera to HA > how to send sensor data from Vera to HA?
    M Maipensato

    Another option (maybe more simple? is to retrieve the sensor data from Vera within Home Assistant.

    This is the code to switch on a switch:

    http://192.168.1.xxx:3480/data_request?id=lu_action&output_format=xml&DeviceNum=185&serviceId=urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1&action=SetTarget&newTargetValue=1

    How do I get the CurrentLevel of a temperature sensor:
    serviceId = =urn:upnp-org:serviceId:TemperatureSensor1
    How to define the action ?

    Home Assistant

  • Migration Vera to HA > how to send sensor data from Vera to HA?
    M Maipensato

    @Crille @gwp1 Thanks for your quick replies and recommendations.
    For sure I have considered MSR. Reasons why I did not opt for this:

    1. in the end I want to do everything within HA incl UI so transferring data from Vera to HA is temporary . HA offers a huge amount of integrations and a big community of users and developers
    2. I run the all inclusive HA OS on a HP thin client. I know there is a Reactor for Home Assistant add-on but read there are issues with it
    3. Switching from the Vera Reactor to MSR is doable but takes time and it is different. The biggest disadvantage in my case is that MSR can not handle LUA code and my most complex Reactors use quite some LUA code

    So this is why I opened a topic here with my specific question.

    Any help /'advice ?

    Home Assistant

  • Migration Vera to HA > how to send sensor data from Vera to HA?
    M Maipensato

    Hi,

    I started home automation in 2013 and using Vera controllers from the start. When Reactor plugin became available (super plugin of @toggledbits !!) I transferred all scenes to Reactor.
    I must say everything here works still okay and I have a lot of devices, plugins and Reactors. But I fear at some point my Vera's will stop working.
    I recognize many of your names here from the Vera forum. I also was banned a couple of years ago.
    Recently I decided to switch to Home Assistant. I already transferred some of my zwave devices from Vera to HA and made some new automations.
    I must say HA is great and with huge amount of integrations, add-ons, the HACS store and many examples (like blueprints) the opportunites to increase home automation are huge.
    HA will be for sure my central system (incl UI)

    But... the learning curve is quite steap (YAML is completely different from Lua/luup).
    So for the time being I will keep my most complex Reactor automations.
    I already found how I can connect/integrate Vera for binairy sensors via webhooks (as an example: changes in my home modes are directly send from Vera to HA).

    Now I also want to use some data like sensors or Reactor variables automatically to HA via https requests (put those in Reactor).
    I know I can create virtual sensors in HA via templates.

    As an example: I have my own PWS with a rainmeter. In Reactor I compare the amount of rain (in mm) in the actual year with historical figures (past 15 years) and calculate the difference actual vs history in % Every day at 0.00h these figures are updated. I defined variables in Reactor and use Multistring plugin (Variable container) to show the data.

    I know several specialists in coding with experience in both Vera and HA are active here on this forum.

    Who can help me with this ?

    Home Assistant

  • SiteSensor > how to fill in Value Expressions (json data) SOLVED !
    M Maipensato

    Well.... I tried again with "response.lastDayData.energy" and now it works ?? Really don't know what I did wrong, but now it works.

    So problem solved.
    Many thanks @akbooer

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • SiteSensor > how to fill in Value Expressions (json data) SOLVED !
    M Maipensato

    Thanks!

    So why does the 2nd option I have mentioned not work?

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • SiteSensor > how to fill in Value Expressions (json data) SOLVED !
    M Maipensato

    I still use Vera controllers in combination with ReactorSensors. I have several Reactor sensors in use to retrieve weather data from Wunderground (i have a personal weather station), my smartmeter etc.

    Recently I installed solar panels with a SolarEdge inverter. SolarEdge has an API to retrieve my power production data from their cloud.
    Output is in json.

    So I created a new Reactor Sensor. Connection is working (query okay).
    But I encounter problems at the Value Expressions. Either I get ""query okay" but no data or I get "query okay but 1 expressions failed"

    This is the json output

    {"overview":{"lastUpdateTime":"2023-05-12 10:45:57","lifeTimeData":{"energy":476310.0,"revenue":216.577},"lastYearData":{"energy":433001.0},"lastMonthData":{"energy":433001.0},"lastDayData":{"energy":8262.0},"currentPower":{"power":5647.0},"measuredBy":"INVERTER"}}
    

    So it has different layers/levels.

    I tried to put in the Value Expressions field several combinations to get the energy data of today (8262.0), like:

    response.lastDayData.energy
    response.overview.lastDayData.energy
    response.overview.lastUpdateTime.lastDayData.energy

    all fail...

    Who can help me with this ?

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • Netatmo – Oath2 login
    M Maipensato

    @akbooer Does this update also work for Vera controllers without using openluup or Altui?

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • SiteSensor: get data from Wunderground suddenly stopped
    M Maipensato

    @toggledbits Okay clear, thanks for your quick reply!

    What about SiteSensor and select response type Generic (text). How can I define a "response pattern to match" in the next field.

    It's good to know it's possible within Reactor Sensor but it would be easier (I hope...) to solve it within SiteSensor.

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • SiteSensor: get data from Wunderground suddenly stopped
    M Maipensato

    @akbooer many thanks !
    Good to know this is possible.
    I doubt wether I can use this within SiteSensor.

    But I think I can use this within the Reactor plugin with some adaptions in the Lua code. It would have to send the invididual sensor data to the virtual weathersensors like every 30 or 60 seconds.

    Or use it within MSR when I would decide to migrate partially of completely from Vera to HA or Hubitat.

    @toggledbits can I use this kind of script within SiteSensor ? Hope you can help me in the right direction.

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • SiteSensor: get data from Wunderground suddenly stopped
    M Maipensato

    This is on Vera.
    xml output:

    <logger>
    <TH date="20221204143607" id="th0" temp="3.7" hum="84" dew="1.2" lowbat="1"/>
    <WIND date="20221204143606" id="wind0" dir="22" gust="1.7" wind="1.7" chill="1.5" lowbat="0"/>
    <THB date="20221204143541" id="thb0" temp="9.3" hum="59" dew="1.7" press="1016.0" seapress="1016.0" fc="0" lowbat="0"/>
    </logger>

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • SiteSensor: get data from Wunderground suddenly stopped
    M Maipensato

    @toggledbits My PWS uploads data to Wunderground via a Meteobridge device. I just found out I can retrieve live data of my weatherstation via a http request to Meteobridge. So this is a way to to get my weatherdata in Vera via SiteSensor plugin. Without being dependent on external cloudservers like Wunderground.

    The only issue is the output is not available in json, only in xml format or plain text. I see that you can select the response type Generic (text) but then you have to define a "response pattern to match" in the next field.
    I went though the SiteSensor thread on the Vera forum and found lots of examples for json output but none for generic text output.

    The output of the Meteobridge URL looks like:

    20221204112238 th0 3.4 84 0.9 1
    20221204112301 wind0 112 1.3 1.3 1.5 0
    20221204112241 thb0 9.4 59 1.8 1017.0 1017.0 0 0

    where first is time stamp, then device id and then all the data.
    th0 = temp/hum sensor 3.4 is temp (Celsius) 84 is hum% 0.9 is dewpoint and 1 = lowbat

    Can you help me in how to get for example temp and hum values; what should I put in the field "enter pattern to match"

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • SiteSensor: get data from Wunderground suddenly stopped
    M Maipensato

    @toggledbits Many thanks for your quick reply! Putting UseCurl on 1 made it working again!
    So for now I'm saved.

    Now I really have to start looking for another smarthome setup. I now have quite an extensive setup with 3 Vera controllers (Secure and Plus) with a lot of Reactor Sensors and Site Sensors etc. and also a Fibaro HC2 controller.
    And I use the Home Remote app that works with both Vera and Fibaro.
    I put a lot of hours in it to set this all up and adapt it to my wishes and I must say it works (almost) rocksolid past 2 years.

    Have to spend quite some time first to look at all the alternatives coming months. For sure I will find useful information here on this forum (e.g. Home Assistant in combination with your MSR)

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • SiteSensor: get data from Wunderground suddenly stopped
    M Maipensato

    I use the excellent SiteSensor plugin of @toggledbits for some years to get the data from my PWS on Wunderground.
    This has worked flawlessly but recently it suddenly stopped working.
    I see this in my Vera:

    6899a8b1-ad67-430a-9dc8-f1da42b04b62-image.png

    When I copy/paste the URL code to be queried in my browser this still works.

    This is the URL:
    https://api.weather.com/v2/pws/observations/current?stationId=ILIMBURG130&format=json&units=m&numericPrecision=decimal&apiKey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Patrick (or someone else on this forum) can you help me solve this ?
    Many thanks in advance!

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • Netatmo – Oath2 login
    M Maipensato

    Any update? October is approaching..

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • Netatmo – Oath2 login
    M Maipensato

    I also use the Netatmo plugin, not on openLuup but still using Vera. I really hope you can and are willing to update the app.

    Vera/openLuup plugins

  • Vera Decoupled from the cloud services
    M Maipensato

    @rafale77 thanks I will read that first

    openLuup

  • Vera Decoupled from the cloud services
    M Maipensato

    Ok thank you @therealdb and @rafale77 I have to dig in to how to set up an openVPN server. This is really new to me (meaning I'm not an expert ..😢).
    I have a Unify Dreammachine router.

    @therealdb: do you think Vera will release the 7.32 firmware coming weeks ? They have promised end last year it should be released already in January....

    openLuup

  • Vera Decoupled from the cloud services
    M Maipensato

    I seriously consider to decouple my Vera's from the Vera cloud services. In case they shut the servers down in the near future. You never know....
    I have read the readme document on @toggledbits.
    And have two questions.
    First of all I will lose remote access (via their cloud service). This is a big disadvantage for me. I used Imperihome app in the past to check and if needed control some devices or start some scenes also when I'm not at home. Now I use TheHomeRemote app and this works very well to controll my Vera's and Fibaro Home Center remotely. Good chance I will cange to MSR in the near future.
    To make this possible after decoupling my Vera's I need to use port forwarding. I have read on the Vera forum that some users advice not to do this because it is not safe. After some further googling I find very contradictive opinions wether using port forwarding is safe or not.
    So what is the opinion of the experts on this forum? Is it really not safe and why ? How can I reduce the safety risks ?

    Second question: should I wait for the upcoming 7.32 firmware update of Vera (I know some of you are beta testing this), is it wortwile?

    openLuup

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    M Maipensato

    Well....since this morning I cannot login to the vera forum anymore.. Account suspended for 1000 years. No warnings at all. What a joke....The almighty dictator that cannot endure any criticism and breaks every forum rule himself again proves what kind of person he is. Really unbelievable his recent behaviour towards rigpapa and akbooer !! Well I don't bother at all. Seeing the lack of progress in Ezlo controllers these will not be part of my (future) home automation system.
    @toggledbits: I liked your reactions towards the dictator (probably the reason he suspended me) and I really fully behind you !!
    @akbooer: ridiculous that the dictator calls you a thief (you stole away "his"customers). He'\s very good in chasing them all away himself.

    I use Vera controllers for almost 8 years now. Honestly I'm quite happy with how they function right now. Thanks to the great research and tips of @rafale77 and switching all my scenes to the magnificent Reactor plugin it is now working (although with on average 1 luup reload per day). My setup is quite complex and next to a lot of zwave devices I also use the plugins for e.g. Hue, Sonos, Netatmo, Milight, RFXcom, smartmeter, Datamine2. For short term I will consider decoupling my Veras from the Vera servers and/or start using Openluup. First dig in to this a little more, I already noticed this forum is very informative about all the options.

    I think much more members are banned now from the vera forum. Because if they ban me for liking the posts of rigpapa.... well I was not the only one.
    @toggledbits: are you still allowed by the almighty dictator?

    Vera
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